Rangers Analysis: When do we start blaming Tortorella?

is p.a. parenteau
seriously tho, they play very similarly – and when he plays, he gets points.
give him a chance torts, voros got lucky in his fight last night, throw him back to the minors

Not sure how Gilroy gets the blame on the Bradley goal, enlighten me.

Its so frustrating to watch a team every night when they don’t even look like they care. I mean theirs no energy in this team besides Gabby, Prospal, Kotalik, and Lundqvist. Even Del Zotto has dropped off lately. Yeah I want to see Tortorella get pissed off just like he did when we played New Jersey early in the season and turned the game around. We need that type of coach every single game in and game out. Also in addition to that I want some of the players to get mad too, when Roszival makes a boneheaded play and leaves Lundqvist to hang out and dry, I want to see Hank flip shit and lay it into Roszival. To me thats what this team needs. also if Avery wont play like the Avery we know get rid of him and play PA Parenteau hes looking really good right now and has a much better chance of scoring.

I’m personally tired of the line scrambling. If you want to build chemistry then leave the guys on the same line for more than a shift at a time. It seems like everytime Torts doesn’t get immediate results he shuffles the lines again. Put lines together and then leave them that way. See how they do over a game or two. If its not working then shuffle a few players around. But he can’t expect to get anything out of the lines till he stops juggling players.

It just drives me nuts. Every other shift someone new is on the line with Prospal and Gaborik. Its enough to make my head spin. I can’ t imagine how hard it is to adjust as a player.

I know coaches may have gotten canned for less, but we need to realize how big of parts Drury and Dubi are. These are 2 of the team’s top centers, so its not like its just 2 small players that are out.

I think you gotta give it another month before we look at Torts and if he’s the problem.

Even then, before the new year rolls around, as long as they are in those top 8 spots, it really doesn’t matter to me. They can make a run (and other teams can drop) within a couple weeks.

I do agree that their play the past few weeks has pretty much sucked.

i personally never wanted him and did not like the hiring from the begining.. anyone can teach players to play this system but he cannot do the little things i need my coach to do

But I think during every break, every practice, Lundqvist should work on high glove saves with Allaire. Do ’em until he stops 9/10. Better yet, 19/20. It seems the high glove lets in every goal right now, and that might be affecting his confidence. I know Lundqvist can get 40+ wins every year. Players realize this hole, and they all fire there. The recent examples are Kovy doing it on his return, Bradley doing it on the breakaway. Work on it alot.

And yes. Torts gets the blame.

However, think of this. Torts was hired by the Lightning midway through the 00-01 season. There was no immediate impact. They even won 3 in 21 games at one point… and, well, we all know what the Lightning did in 04.

So… should we be expecting this type of play?

I’ll ask that, but I’ll give my own answer to it: Not At All.

The team Torts took over in Tampa wasn’t a playoff team. This team is. 4 straight seasons, and I’m not going to stop counting. Torts gets the blame because I think he is panicking. Switch the defensive combinations, try different break outs during practice. Have a get up the ice line, a dump the puck line, a crash the net line, just think of things to get the players on their feet. Right now they’re all sitting down.

I think the major problem is that the team just doesn’t play at times. Perfect example last night when they came out really strong against the Caps. They were playing the game that Torts wanted to them to play. It was working pretty well and Gaborik got us the early lead. The Caps were on their heels. Then all of the sudden the play that was so effective start just dissappeared.

When the team is aggressive and constantly getting in passing lanes. When the team is controlling the puck. When the team is putting serious pressure on the opposition it is John Torturella’s team. When they suddenly stop doing all that they are not his team. Torts needs to figure out a way to keep that type of play up. When they play that way I can’t see why they can’t be in competition for top 4 in the league.

I don’t know how to fix the inconsistency I’ve seen, but I sure as hell hope Torts does.

unless torts is given better players, we have to blame sather. sure he traded gomez but come on. he doesnt recieve a free pass because of it. redden is mediocre, drury has turned into shannahan minus the scoring plus a step in speed. roszival is the worst defensemen in the league and i totally disagree with whoever stated that if rozy is called back up from being sent down a team will be all over him at 2.5. Torts needs better premier players to play his style plain and simple.

Yes, it is still a mystery to me as to why the defensive pairings have not ben changed yet. Torts is always ready to jumble up the offense, so why not try the same approach with the D, who really need it?

the truth is were not holding bad players accountable.

and yeah id change of the defensive pairs.

stall and gilroy should be together and redden and girardi should be together. at this point i really wish we had semenov. it would do such a great thing for this team to sit redden or rozi after a game like last night. if we had that 7th dman redden wouldnt play the next game because of the play.

and brashear has to be one of the worst signings.. he doesnt hit anyone. his fights are boring and unconclusive for the most part.. and hes a liability when hes on the ice. same with voros. we need that grit i guess but i much rather have a 4th line who can actually play.

its time to bring up locke. give him a shot with the big club. and keep parenteau up this time.

and if we didnt have this shortage of centers id say i would love to see anisimov with gaborik and prospal, but thats wont happen till drury and dubi are back.

The only common thread through years of mediocrity, poor hustle and soft non-physical ranger teams is Sather. It’s time for him to go. Trouble is Dolan will never make that move. I think Torts is hinting at this with his “play the hand I’m delt” comments WRT the players performance. It should send shockwaves through an organization when no player comes to the defense of Hank as he continues to get run over, and Ryan Callahan has to answer the bell for himself. Brashear is yet another in a long line of Slather’s obvious senility. Please bring back the pride in Ranger Blue!

I don’t know who to blame, coaches or the players. I’ve noticed The team is usually out of position on some facets of the game, like outlet passes out of the zone, other teams pass tape to tape, I find it that the rangers have a hard time doing this. Also I feel as if their is a lack of communication by the players that can and will result in situations like my previous statement. I wonder if management can listen to us or read our blog and comments about bringing up players. I mean do we really need voros? no he plays like ass. I understand that we are missing key guys but that shouldn’t be an excuse. Many is the time where rosival makes a stupid play and it makes me wonder why he is in the NHL, trade him even if you get little for him. Sangs is a good defense men who scores and plays a physical game. but who am I but just a lolly fan, I don’t call the shots

look this team is just not talented enough they are soft they don,t have a good defence besides for del zotto and gilroy. they are a rebuilding team with a franchise goalie and superstar sniper. now who,s to blame for this is sather the ownership just can,t eccept the fact that they are a rebuilding project untill they rid themselves of these bad contracts they are a 8th or 9th place team. i sure as hell hope i am wrong …

Torts calling out Gilroy is BS
" Maybe Tortorella should have mentioned Redden trying to swat at the puck instead of coming back to make sure that the semi-breakaway never happens. Not to mention that Gilroy came all the way over from the other point to catch up to him. "—-exactly! Well Said!

he’d be leading the league in penalty minutes.

i remember when we got higgins montreal fans said.

“he says all the right things and will get chances but wont connect on them because all he cares about is his city life”

thats kinda acccurate right now.

and yeah torts needs to put some fire under these guys asses.

like when he was benching rozi for terrible games. time to keep doing that. we should bring up sangs and bench redden for that mistake in his last game.