Rangers Analysis: Fake ID
Identity is something the Rangers have lacked not only this year, but in years prior to this one. There is no indication of the Broadway Blueshirts being a great defensive team, an up-tempo offensive club, or a rough and tough squad that will out-muscle you night in and night out. There is nothing to identify this team with other than the fact that they are eliminated within the first two rounds of the playoffs each year. Unlike most team in the league, the Rangers do not have a set style of play that they are known for--an identity.
Take the New Jersey Devils for example. For as long as I can remember they have been a team in which concentrates their game on defense. Because of this, they have built up a reputation around the league for their efforts in their own zone, leading them to several Stanley Cup Championships over the years.
Then you have the Philadelphia Flyers who, as we are well aware, have always been the intimidators on the ice, or the team that uses strength and effort more than anything else to get the job done. For this, they have developed the nickname "Broadstreet Bullies". Granted Philly has undergone some drastic changes and are now a more skilled team than they once were, but that grit and toughness remains in the lineup and will always be associated with that franchise.
So now you look at the Rangers. Well, what are they known for? What are they best at? Quite honestly, I do not have an answer to either of those questions. I do know, however, that head coach John Tortorella wants a team that plays an up-tempo, high pressure, offensive style. The problem is wanting and having are two totally different things, and right now Torts is only dreaming because the players he coaches are far from fitting the profile that he desires.
The offense is inconsistent in the way they play. Chances come in small bunches and in spurts. There is never sustained pressure from the Rangers which makes them an easy team to defend. The effort on the forecheck is minute compared to some of the other teams in this league and for the most part, they are only getting scoring from their top line. That does not make them an up-tempo offensive force by any means, and they look a lot like the club we saw coached by Tom Renney, one that cannot score goals.
Put an "X" in the offensive column.
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The defense is simply lost. The positioning is horrible, they cannot clear the zone, and their fundamentals are off. There is no use in singling out specific players right now because I am viewing the defense as a whole and they are all a part of the disgusting product we see take the ice each and every night.
More often than not when I see a team that is constantly out of position and getting caught I blame the coaching staff. At this point, send the offense home, bring the defense into a room and go over video for an hour. Show them their mistakes over and over and over again until they are sick and tired of viewing themselves falling into the same trap five, ten, fifteen times. As a hockey player myself I can tell you this; when you are taken aside and shown your mistakes in a visual, and are then corrected and told what to do, almost every time you go to make that same mistake you hear the coach's voice in your head and you remember the correct position and move you are supposed to make.
That being said, the coach also needs his players to meet him halfway by giving some effort. Some players just seem like they are out there to collect their paycheck and that is all. Make an effort to better position yourself, make an effort to use the body more often, make an effort to better execute the outlet pass. I mean, it really is not all that hard to turn yourself around. Sure you are going to make mistakes, but you can try. So far I haven't seen that sort of mentality displayed from the Ranger Blueline and it has made them look like Swiss cheese.
Put an "X" in the defensive column.
Another problem with this roster that many of you continue to bring up in comments is the lack of grit or the "softness" of the Blueshirts. Donald Brashear was brought in here to make this club a bit tougher. Fighting every so often and losing those fights does not help this team, nor does taking stupid penalties at key times. Then there is Aaron Voros who has the will power to be a physical player but fails for lack of a better term. If I were Sather, I would bring up Dane Byers because he is more capable in all aspects of the game when comparing him to these two wastes of space.
Softness is not only an issue on offense, as the defense is pushed around a whole lot. My personal favorite moments is when the opposition plants a player in front of OUR net, and that player pushes and shoves OUR defenseman out of the way. Are you serious? Have the guts to protect our all-star goaltender and not get shoved around in your own crease. That is simply pathetic.
Put an "X" in the tough and gritty column.
So that brings us back to the question I presented earlier. What is this team good at? Offense? No. Defense? No. Physicality? No. A team that wants to find their game and improve needs an identity before they can take any progressive steps. It is like this team is trying to solve a puzzle that has no solution whatsoever, and it has haunted us fans for many years now. They have the goaltending in Lundqvist, but nothing much beyond that. They simply do not have an identity.
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Nick, great job. I would also add that they are not a hard-working team. If you look at the team out on the Island, that has become their identity. Listen to people talk about the Islanders now, and usually one of the first things you hear is “They are a hard working team”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2009 8:11 AM EST reply actions
Thanks
And good point, you would think that they would be hard working with a coach like Torts, but no, the polar opposite.
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by Nick Montemagno on Nov 30, 2009 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
they have an identity
they are a retirement community for over the hill players…once contracts like drury rozi and redden are gone then only will they start getting better…problem is we may lose good players along the way or even miss out on signing some big free agents…i think it would be pretty cool if the rangers incorporated messier or leetch into the coaching system…i know torts doesnt like more than one assistant coach but i know if i was being taught by mess or leetch id be inspired
The real problem is here:
Drury: 7.1 million 3 years left (Full No movement clause)
Redden: 6.5 million 5years left (semi-no trade clause)
Rozsival: 5 million 2 years left (semi no trade clause)
Thats a total of 18.6 million dollars to three players who bring very little to the table. The Rangers are about 400K under the cap. What can they do?
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God damn do I hate looking at those contracts!!!
by klh2009 on Nov 30, 2009 10:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
toughness
I agree with nutz_35: look at the history of past-their-prime players coming to feed at the Cablevision trough (Bure, Eric “Baby Hughie” Lindros, Kasparaitis, to name just a couple)
If you’re going to accept a couple of bad penalties a game, let’s bring Chelios in. He’s itching to play at the NHL level and even though he’s lost a step (and thus will take a hooking penalty or two per game), you can guarantee that no one will be standing unbruised in front of our net when he’s on the ice. I’m sure he’d take the $400k just to get back out there.
I'll agree now is the time to look at that
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 30, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I hate when my Devils fan friend is right
I think it was about 8 years ago he said to me, “The Rangers will never win another Cup while the Dolans own this team.” So far he’s pretty spot on. It’s nice to have an owner with deep pockets, but let’s face it, the best teams in the league have owners who are actively involved with the team and actually know hockey. If James Dolan knew anything about hockey he would have fired his butt-buddy Sather 5 years ago. Now we’re stuck with both of these incompetent morons until one of them dies.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 30, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
It’s got little to do with hockey knowledge, and everything to do with profit. If you notice the “Post Game News and Notes” I put up after Ranger home games, what is one of the first things it always says, win or lose?
“Tonight’s game was hte _______ consecutive sellout for the Rangers at Madison Square Garden”
Wellington Mara, God rest his soul, said it many times as owner of the Giants, “Empty seats speak volumes”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
As far as all the sellouts go……the games might be sold out, but many people don’t show up to the games. If you pay attention during the game you can actually see there are always a bunch of empty seats at the lower ice level….at least it seems that way to me
Those tickets are crazy expensive. I sat right next to the press box behind the visiting goal maybe 10 rows up. Ticket was $175 face value (got it for a song)…So I have no idea what they are on the sides. You are right those lower seats are fairly empty most games. Where as you watch a Leafs or Montreal game and there isn’t an empty seat in the house.
by fromthe51hate on Nov 30, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Finding a System
Hello everyone. First post here. This article is extremely well written. I’ve been a diehard fan for about 10 years now and at least under renney we did have a system. It was play defense only … hope for a lucky break and score … and pray hank has a great game. I was not a huge fan of not having any offensive pressure but at least they played into a system.
This year even many of the games we won I said to myself, wow, our team defense was awful. Since 3 of our 4 lines can’t score right now get them playing solid defensively. If your not gonna score please play some solid defense. I’m a season ticket holder and its painful watching some of these games …
by NYR9320 on Nov 30, 2009 12:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hi NYR, welcome to Blueshirt Banter
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
For the compliment and welcome to the site. I am pretty new here myself, as a writer that is.
I agree, the defense was bad even when we were winning games in the beginning of October. Tortorella noticed it and so did the players.
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by Nick Montemagno on Nov 30, 2009 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FINDING A SYSTEM
NYR, BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN FEELING THE PAIN WHILE WATCHING THESE GAMES I AM A SEASON TIX HOLDER AS WELL THE OLD SAYING GOES MISERY LOVES COMPANY RIGHT……………
OK you know we have truly beat a dead horse with every aspect of this team
From Tortorella to Redden to Roszival to Higgins to Brashear and the list goes on and on……But the absolute biggest problem with this team starts at the top and forget about getting rid of the Dolans, that will never happen. They pull the strings. It’s Glen Sather. Since taking control of this team in 99’ he immediately started immersing this team in over the hill players and bad contracts……from Valeri Kamensky to Theo Fleury to Stephan Quintal to Chris Drury. and sad part about it is is he doesnt learn from his mistakes. After YEARS of bad decisions and not making the playoffs the Rangers began to have a fire sale and started trading veterens and announced a youth movement. And all that did was buy him more time. So we truly thought we were rebuiliding but of course that was not the case. Now after contracts to Gomez, Redden, Roszival and Drury not muc has changed. You know I remember a long time When Sather was still GM of the small market Oilers he had alot of resentment for Neil Smith and the Rangers. He said…“If I had the Rangers money I would win the Stanley Cup every year.” ………pretty funy huh?
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 30, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions
On Sather
His drafting track record is good, his trading record is good. He overspends to get guys he feels he wants, and overspends badly. So it’s like a +1, a +1, and a -10. Even the -10 might be harsh, since Prosborik for a combined 8.5-9m has been other worldly.
At the time of the Drury deal though, it made sense, he was coming off his best season, he was a proven winner, and was supposed to provide good leadership while being a solid 2-way forward. 7 mil was excessive but he was going to be a hot commodity, he’d have gotten alot of money somewhere. This deal looks alot worse now than it did at the time. The other two are obviously indefensible in every sense of the word.
If you look at this team though, yes the Big Three Contracts have handcuffed the team, but he’s still assembled a team around those 3 with enough talent and potential that they shouldn’t be this bad. (Brashear/Voros notably omitted, mostly cause it’s not long before the team is fully healthy and they’re both healthy scratches for long stretches, we hope)
This team is plagued by two things right now: Underperformance and defensive irresponsibility. These are not Sather issues.
Cally/Dubi/Higgins and Drury were expected to give us at least 80 goals, they’re on pace for 35 while shooting an obscenely unlucky 5.5% Kotalik was huge early but has PP points in only 2 of his last 13 games, and if he isn’t producing on the PP he’s useless. Prosborik has been awesome.
The defense is completely lost. Gilroy/MDZ have growing pains, you expect them to some extent. The real problem lies in the other four. Staal has had a mediocre to bad season, Girardi has had a bad season, Redden has been good by Redden standards but still bad and Rozsival is a clusterfuck.
Oh, and our 5th best scorer (and 3rd best at even strength) gets 12 minutes of ice time a game. For all that we love in Mr. Parenteau, how he’s getting 15 while AA still can’t get some decent run is beyond me, and I’m sure it will only get worse when Dubinsky gets back.
I look at those 3 things and can’t help but wonder what the hell the coaching staff is looking at, and why the hell they can’t fix it. This goes beyond Tortorella, somebody on that bench has to be paying attention.
So no, I don’t really blame Sather. I’d be happy to see him go, but this team and their performance (or lack thereof) is not his fault.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 30, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
for you to say you dont blame Sather is ridiculous
His fingerprint is on this whole team. His penchent for signing really bad ,long term contracts is a HUGE reason why this team is where it is and why it cant get out of it’s own way. At the time of the Drury/Gomez signings alot of people were questioning the dollar amounts given to these players. Remember Drury was coming off a career year in a contract year. Coincidence? I dont think so. History has shown players overachieve in walk years cuz they are playing for a new contract. Bottom line….Drury is fat and lazy now!!!! Gomez was garbage and Sather was lucky to find a bigger idiot than him in Bob Gainey. pure luck otherwise we would still be staring at Gomez’s 5 o’clock shadow and listening to his wise cracks. If we had a real GM that the game hasnt passed by like a Ken Holland or a Ray Shero, or how bout Lou Lamoriello that didnt spend like a drunken sailor and spent wisely on players that actually performed this Ranger team would be in a battle for 1st place.
I mean really, EVERYONE in the league and fans were able to tell that Wade Reddens skills were diminishing and he had been on the decline for 2 or 3 years when Sather signed him to a ridiculous contract paying him $6,500,000 a year. Thats Lidstrom or Chara money there! I mean was there a huge bidding war for Redden at the time?…..no. To blow Reden out of the water w/ a contract like that wa unthinkable. And thats just 1 bad contract. Sather has COMPLETELY CRIPPLED this team for the next 5 years and im not saying there arent other problems with this team in terms of performance and coaching bu it all starts with him and i cant believe you dont think so……………………….
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 30, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I acknowledged that Sather track record with signing FAs is atrocious and far outweighs the good he has done. I also said I’d be happy to see him go.
But…….
Sather signed Gaborik, Prospal, and Gilroy.
He traded for Lisin, which whatever you want to say, he’s more talented than Korpikoski.
He traded Gomez (who was better than garbage mind you), to get HIggins (who yes, is underperforming) and McDonagh, the Habs #1 prospect and now our #3. That’s is a steal of a trade beyond steals.
He traded a 3rd rounder to get Boyle. Now that 3rd rounder took us out of the running for certain players w/. offer sheets, but we probably could not have have gotten them anyway b/c of the contracts. And Boyle’s still raw as a talent.
He drafted Lundqvist, Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Staal, Del Zotto, Girardi, Sanguinetti…and those are just the guys that are here. Sure you can argue that it wasn’t all Sather (or any Sather maybe), but he’s still the decision maker when those players are drafted.
So yes, his fingerprint is all over this team. And a high percentage of this team is talented or potentially talented, and the farm system is stocked to the point it’s ranked 3rd in the NHL.
And when talent and potential aren’t reached…you don’t blame the GM. You blame the coaching. And that’s what I am doing
Now if you want to blame Sather for hiring the wrong coaching, well then now you’re on to something.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 30, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
All I know is his overall track record is not good.
His bad far outweighs anygood he has done around here and im done with it. I cant wait for the day.
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 30, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Shoenfeld
Doesn’t Jim Shoenfeld coach the defensemen? He’s not on the bench but I thought he was helping with the d men, (apart form his GM’ing of the Pack and being an asst. GM)? Lets see what happens tonight.. Why is Lisin scratched his foot bothering him again, or just playing bad?
No identity is a very true statement.
I completely agree with all the talk of the Rangers having no identity. At least during the Renney era they were starting to form one. Penalty Killing.(which isn’t exactly something your team should be built around. But its better than nothing.) Now with Torts supposed “uptempo”, “in your face”, style of play, which it clearly is not, there is no emphasis on any specific aspect of the game, even if the coach claims it is offense. When we debate and comment about this team we all love so dearly its to no avail. As it has said many times before this, as long as Sather, and the Dolans, are behind the wheel this ship shall remain sunken. To finish this mini rant.. what really irks me is that I still remain hopeful because the management teases us by getting players that have such allure Jagr, Gaborik, Gretzky, Bure, etc. blinding many and giving millions of fans false hope.
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