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UPDATED: NHL needs to take more of a stand against hits to the head (But not this time, apparently)

San Jose Sharks goalie Evgeni Nabokov (20), of Kazakhstan,  reacts as New York Rangers' Chris Drury (23) celebrates after scoring during the first period of a NHL hockey game Monday, Oct. 19, 2009, in New York.  (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

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3 months ago: San Jose Sharks goalie Evgeni Nabokov (20), of Kazakhstan, reacts as New York Rangers' Chris Drury (23) celebrates after scoring during the first period of a NHL hockey game Monday, Oct. 19, 2009, in New York. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

Note by Jim Schmiedeberg, 11/09/09 2:56 PM EST As mleetch put in the thread below, Glencross received a 3 game slap on the wrist from the NHL for the hit.

For more on the story, check out Puck Daddy, who has his own thoughts on the story, as well as quoting Joe's story below. Great work Joe!

 

Pro sports have never exactly been safe. Every sport has injuries, and when it comes to contact sports like hockey or football the chances of injuries are raised significantly. Currently the NHL is taking a long hard look at hits to the head and what they should do about it. Maybe they shouldn't look too far from home.

Now I am not naive enough to stand up here on a high horse and claim that the New York Rangers have not been guilty of their fair share of cheap shots. They have been guilty before and I am sure they will be guilty again, you can say the same for every team.

Two nights ago when the Rangers were playing the Calgary Flames Curtis Glencross delivered a blatant and gutless cheap shot to Chris Drury, knocking him out of the game and giving him a concussion. The referees missed the call and Glencross went unpunished. Honestly I can deal with the referees missing the hit, there is so much more going on in a hockey game than some fans realize. It is, at least slightly, understandable that the play was missed. Do you want that hit to be called? Of course you do and to be honest giving out five minute majors and game misconducts would do wonders to stop cheap hits, but some plays simply slip through the cracks.

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What gets to me--or at least will get to me--is that once the game is over the NHL does not step up. I'm just guessing here but I would say that Glencross will get a one game suspension, maybe three if he's unlucky. That can't be the case, especially if the NHL wants to put an end to hits to the head. Suspend him for 10 games, maybe more, give him something to think about. Make a real statement. A one game suspension truly doesn't even constitute as a slap on the wrist, it's just "required rest."

Another example was this "gem" from Donald Brashear last year during the playoffs. That hit got him a six game suspension, in my opinions he should have been out for at least 20. Players will start to think twice before throwing cheap shots if they are gonna get suspended for ten or more games. That's how you really stop hits to the head.

Let me reiterate something here. I don't care who throws the hit, if it happens it needs to be punished. If Chris Drury had thrown the hit against Glencross I would be saying the same thing. I don't care what type of reputation a guy has, if he throws a cheap shot he needs to be held accountable.

Hits to the head are very dangerous and very scary. Thankfully we are only taking about an injury that should last for a week, but what happens when we start talking about injuries that last a lifetime. What happens when someone gets critically injured? We aren't just taking about careers, we are talking about lives.

I find it ironic that the NHL is so worried about injuries that they change the rules to the game, but don't punish players when they have the shot. Taking away "right off the face-off fights" and fighting in the final minutes of a game are well and good. The tactics that the NHL has employed (suspensions and fines) seem to work for the most part. Dane Byers was guilty of this during the Edmonton game, and he was punished accordingly (and deserved it).

Let me also say that the NHL is usually good with situations like this. I am not implying that the NHL is putting their head in the sand on this one. The NHL just needs to make a more direct assault on cheap shots. People's safety is at stake.  

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The cynic in me says that the only way something like what you’re suggesting (and by and large I happen to agree with it) gets any kind of traction is if Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby or Kovalchuk goes down – maybe even to the point of threatening their career.

Not unlike the hit that put the Kitchener Rangers player in the hospital. That was a clear warning shot across the bow of all pro/semi-pro hockey leagues – it was very close to being a fatality on the ice. None of the leagues have the financial wherewithal to survive the lawsuits that will surely be filed should that happen.

The other problem is the fact that a significant number of fans want that gritty physical brand of hockey – and they’re numerous and vocal enough that the NHL is loathe to risk alienating them. As at least one analyst said, the NHLPA should stand up and make a statement about this type of risky behavior. Which, of course, would require at the least a ‘functional’ NHLPA – and we all know that’s not something we’ll see in the near future.
So, you’ve got a powerless and useless union that won’t stick up for it’s own membership, and an ‘employer’ that won’t take any risks for fear of screwing the pooch and losing what little fan base they have.

Result?

Status quo.

Until some earth-shattering event takes place and forces their hand(s).

It will happen at some point – it’s just a matter of when.

The Glencross hit on Drury does not constitute that event – it was too innocuous. Unfortunately.

by dbmaven on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have a question for everyone here, do you guys think the Fanelli hit in the OHL was dirty? Did it warrant a year suspension?
I want to call it a bad hit, seeing how badly the Kitchener player was hurt, but it looks like a clean hit aside from maybe a bit of a charge.
That hit gets a year suspension, the Glencross hit, which was beyond dirty, gets three games; dbmaven is definitely right on.

by cookin26 on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with the Fanelli suspension is that David Branch (OHL commissioner) is a blatant reactionary who is desperate to put himself into the history books. He decided to persecute an OHL nobody in the hopes that he could be held up as some kind of saviour of the game.

The Glencross hit was not “beyond dirty”. Nor was it “cheap and gutless”. Those reactions are based entirely on the colour of the jersey Drury wears. If Drury receives the puck, as Glencross was anticipating, it’s simply an unfortunate incident. As it is, it was obviously interference, and unfortunate. Based on NHL precedents though, three games is ridiculously excessive, Score another one for Colin Campbell’s wheel of justice.

If you want to see “beyond dirty” and “cheap and gutless”, look at Ovechkin’s slewfoot a couple weeks ago. The NHL overreacted on Glencross because it was safe to do so. If it was Drury doing that to Glencross, there might have been a fine, at most.

by Resolute on Nov 9, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

see, where i disagree here is the “if drury recieves the puck” case. As a hockey player, it is your job to be aware of the play, and to react accordingly. Glencross should have avoided Drury completely as the pass never came to him. Glencross is at fault not necessarily for intent to injure but a failure to react and avoid contact with Drury. I have encountered this situation in my own hockey games, and if i can avoid a dirty hit, a professional most certainly should be a able to.
Thanks for the insight on david branch, though. Didn’t really know what the OHL commish is like.

by cookin26 on Nov 9, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed, and I don’t disagree. Glencross made a mistake, there is no doubt about that. But the fact that we can easily throw around dirty hits by star players that go unpunished – Ovechkin and Malkin both being already named for their slewfoots – really casts a foul smell on the severity of the punishment for this mistake. I’m not challenging the principle of the suspension, but rather the application of it in the context of NHL discipline. This suspension is based entirely on the fact that Glencross is not a star player, while Drury is a key player for a big name team.

Look at the Richards hit on Booth. Now THAT was a violent headshot. And depending on where you stand on the issue of big hits to guys who aren’t paying attention, could warrant all of the hyperbole being thrown around here. I wonder, if it was Blair Betts who destroyed Booth like that, would the NHL have been so silent on a suspension? I doubt it myself. Or if it was Richards who got destroyed?

The real issue with this suspension is not the apparent lack of severity of punishment for what was, ultimately, an ill-timed hit on a guy who wishes he was as tough as glass. It is about the obvious double standard in how Colin Campbell hands out justice. The action and result is not half as important as the people involved, and how many tickets they can sell.

by Resolute on Nov 9, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is about the obvious double standard in how Colin Campbell hands out justice. The action and result is not half as important as the people involved, and how many tickets they can sell.

I think that was the entire point of my original post – summarized nicely, BTW. ;-)

Until and unless there is consistency in the punishment meted out, this behavior will undoubtedly continue – both by the wannabe’s trying to make a name for themselves and the “stars” who know they’ll get off lightly.

I call a spade a spade – regardless of who the offending party is or for whom they play. Jersey color matters not when the result is a player out cold on the ice.

by dbmaven on Nov 9, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was NOT about Drury being a Ranger

If you want to throw around remarks like that look at the fact that you are a Flames fan. It works both ways.

Excessive? hes a professional hockey player, no need to lay the lumber into Drury’s head

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 9, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed, it does work both ways. The difference is that I’m not going to protest that I’m biased towards my team. The fact is, if you need to state that “you would feel the same if it was anyone else”, then you’ve already conceded that you wouldn’t feel the same if it was anyone else.

I’m not saying you are wrong to have that opinion though. Everybody does when it is their team’s guy. Its natural. But lets be honest and admit that this irks you more because Drury is a Ranger.

by Resolute on Nov 9, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's really be honest

It irks you that a Flame was guilty of the hit.

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 9, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now you are just getting defensive. Should I take that as a sign that I hit a bulls-eye with my comment?

Glencross did what he did, and if Colin Campbell was consistent in how he applies discipline, I’d have no issue with the suspension. The hit isn’t what determined the suspension, however. The fact that Glencross is in a lower caste than Drury is. That’s the problem.

by Resolute on Nov 9, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You're right

There’s a double standard in this league toward players. Hell, I want to bring up an incident from 2004 or so… late in the season. Another Ranger player involved, this one doing the dirty work. Mark Messier speared Martin Strbak. What’s the relevance in this? Messier’s deliberate intent-to-injure with a spear to the abdomen got him 2 games. This was on the heels of the Bertuzzi/Moore incident earlier in the year and the league was cracking down on stuff like this happening.

The problem was, Messier (Ranger or not), is an upper echelon, legendary NHL player who was on his swan song. Instead of cracking down and showing no one is a special case — they slapped him on the wrist for it.

That double standard enables upper tier guys to get away with deliberate antics. And that’s the hypocrisy: If Drury had done the dirty work as you’re saying, there’d be a single game suspension or perhaps just a fine… if anything at all.

Not trying to dump on the Rangers here, it’s an example. There are other examples all over the league. You get a marquee player who does something questionable, sometimes the refs will do anything to avoid calling a penalty — let alone have the league investigate the incident after it happens. Ovie, Malkin, etc.

It sucks that Drury’s hurt. That’s not in question and not being debated as so much the severity of the incident and the double standard coming from the league office when stuff like this happens.

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by John Fontana on Nov 9, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%

Again this has nothing to do with Drury being a Ranger. Hits to the head have to stop period. I don’t care who is dealing it or who is getting hurt, it can only be detromental.

As for the punishment aspect, the punishments are about as iconsistant as the on ice refing, which is horrible to begin with.

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 9, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you expect anything but inconsistency when you apply arbitrary standards to a basically non-existant rule? see my comment below.

by jigblahdah on Nov 9, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Look Resolute

I’m not fighting about this because we happen to be on the same team here. What I am defending is that this post was specifically made because it was Chris Drury that got hit. I just don’t want to see someone get hurt.

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 9, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody wants to see guys get hurt. However, I do believe the amount of hyperbole directly relates to the fact that Drury is a Ranger. It was a simple collision that you are blatantly trying to change into something more evil.

by Resolute on Nov 10, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and as I expected any shot at being civil with you is denied

ill bow out of this one as you are on too high of a horse to argue with

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 10, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me also say that the NHL is usually good with situations like this. I am not implying that the NHL is putting their head in the sand on this one. The NHL just needs to make a more direct assault on cheap shots. People’s safety is at stake.

You’re giving the NHL and Campbell way to much credit. I’m a die hard Isles fan and hate to say that the Rags get screwed nearly as much as the Isles. Want to know why? Colin Campbell. He hates the Isles and is not shy to prove it. Unfortunately for Raggie fans, he’s a fan of the team and can’t prove it. He seems like he needs to prove to everyone that he’s not a Ranger fan, therefore alot of this stuff goes unpunished. For fairness sake for both NY Teams, Campbell needs to be taken out back and…

by Nyntwun on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and what? lol

by MattPwrcf1 on Nov 9, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

beaten with a stick. lol

by LIrangersfan on Nov 9, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i doubt very highly

that Colin Campbell is not going to punish players because he hates ceartin teams.

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 9, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. He is a professional and I m sure his personal opinions or feelings toward certain teams have no influence on handing out suspensions and being objective.

by MattPwrcf1 on Nov 9, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BULL SHIT.

stanley cup playoffs last year. malkin slew footed a player.

slew footing automatically warrants a suspension.

where was it? thats right there was none.

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 9, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ok, so he doesnt always get it right and sometimes is wrong when it comes to giving or not giving a suspension. But I dont believe that his personal “feelings” toward a team are what is behind his decisions. Thats what I was saying.

by MattPwrcf1 on Nov 9, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and im not talking aobut missing a call on the ice. we all know the refs are terrible. but after the game was over they looked at the play and decided that he didnt deserve a suspension for the slew foot because his last name was malkin and he was on the penguins. thats all there is to it

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by Moshe52792 on Nov 10, 2009 5:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The NHL does seem to have an agenda

its just the way things work. If Crosby were knocked out then I guarentee you that Glencross would have been out for at least 10 games. The NHL can’t work that way.

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 9, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he got one…3 lousy games.

by mleetch352 on Nov 9, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its not so clear-cut

I really don’t think the shot to the head here was as bad as the result. Redden’s natural pass would have been to Drury, and the Flame was just stepping up to shut down that outlet pass. The fact that Redden saw a defender coming and made a good play is pretty unreal, but setting that aside, I’m not sure the hit was particularly cheap. It was hit shoulder and not elbow. Drury wasn’t looking and did not see it coming so he did not brace himself or otherwise react. I can understand why this one is not the case to make an example out of a vicious hit to the head and suspend him for 10 games. Brashear’s hit on Betts is a different story; that was an elbow and the puck wasn’t there at all. I doubt that all the officials did not see this play, but likely saw it and decided (incorrectly) it was not a penalty. Definitely interference since the puck did not go to Drury, but not much more than that, IMO.

by Blueshirts Rock on Nov 9, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well it was to the head. and the fact is drury didnt have the puck. you cant hit someone because you think there gonna get the puck. thats not the way hockey works.

sure it looked like redden was going to pass to him, but he didnt. glencross had enough time to pull up but he didnt.

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by Moshe52792 on Nov 9, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

 I didn’t actually see the hit so can’t judge it, but I think that hits to the head should be banned regardless whether they are clean or not. Hits to the head are just too dangerous and the league needs to ban them. I hate seeing careers ending prematurely. If a player throwing a legal hit knows he will hit the head, he should not execute that check, its that simple. If the tables were turned, would he want to get hit in the head and get a concussion?? I don’t think so.

by MattPwrcf1 on Nov 9, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well there is at least 1 youtube of it on this site, so take a look.

by mleetch352 on Nov 9, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t view videos here at work….I ll look when I get home

by MattPwrcf1 on Nov 9, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Players these days are more scared of getting suspended/penalized for a fight than they are for a cheap hit when the opposite should be true. The NHLs crack down on fighting has had the unintendes side effect of promoting this type of activity.

Why not take a cheap shot when you know there’s a decent chance you won’t be penalized. It’s a guarantee you’ll be sitting in the box for a fight. Also, no one seems willing to stand up anD fight when this happens. Get rid of the instigator penalty! Someone shouldve dropped their gloves the second glencross made this hit. If players knew there would be retribution on the ice they’d think twice abou cheap shots like this one.

by jigblahdah on Nov 9, 2009 3:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

If the NHL and PA had the cojones to make a public stand, state the penalty, and make it stick, there would be a far greater deterrent than somebody dropping the gloves (and maybe getting their own concussion from a lucky uppercut).

It’s really quite simple – hits to the head will result in an automatic n-game suspension – where n can be 10 games or more. This hits the offending player right where it hurts most – in the pocketbook. A fine to the organization of $50k might add to the deterrent factor.

Much more effective than getting rid of the instigator penalty and seeing fights – which typically solve absolutely nothing – increase.

by dbmaven on Nov 9, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the best solution is to get rid of the instigator penalty and give automatic and significant suspensions for head hits?hmmm

by MattPwrcf1 on Nov 9, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It sounds simple when you say it, but lets think about the reality. What constitutes a hit to the head? Is it an elbow to the head? A shoulder to the head? What about the shoulders of taller players on smaller players? It seems to me that no matter what those players do there will be some contact to the head even on clean hits. Where do you draw the line? It not as simple as a shot to the head means n-suspension. Is there only a suspension if the player gets a concussion?

Many of the hits this year that have caused an outrage have been legal hits frankly. Its really an argument about the intent to injure veiled as an argument about head shots. What deters the average player from going out there and trying to hurt people?… a punch to the f-in face. Personally, I think the least arbitrary way to cut down on these incidents is to be more lenient about fighting.

by jigblahdah on Nov 9, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s so difficult about it? We’re talking about hits to the head that cause an injury. Pretty straightforward – not a lot of wiggle room.

There aren’t a whole lot of ways that a taller player’s shoulder can make contact with a shorter players head – AND cause an injury – without it being deliberate. But since all of these situations (we’re talking suspensions, remember?) would be reviewed in great detail by the NHL, there would obviously be some degree of judgment involved.

“A punch to the f-in face..” is not a deterrent by any stretch of the imagination. All that does is create a class of head-hunting goons looking for retribution whether deserved or not. For the sake of argument – let’s say that there was no ‘instigator’ rule. Byers or Boyle go out on the ice – get into a fight with Glencross – which ends up being yet another “jersey jerk” with a whole lot of wrestling and no significant punches landed.
Drury is still out of the game. The 2 fighters get 5 minute majors – and maybe a misconduct. Big f-in deal!

Take the guys paycheck away for a month – roughly 1/5th of the season (in a normal, not an Olympic year) – and we’ll see how many take their chances.

by dbmaven on Nov 9, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You’re right. Theyre arent a whole lot of ways a taller player’s shoulder can make contact with a smaller player’s head. There’s one way! When someones head is already around your shoulder level and you lean in to make a hit it doesn’t take a big stretch of the imagination to see how there would be unintentional head contact. Why should this player be suspended/penalized if the person they hit gets hurt? How do you decide when a hit is intentional/severe enough to warrant a suspension?

Of course there would be judgment involved. But why should a defenseman who sees someone skating down the middle with his head down think twice about lining him up? Players are taught to be aware of their surroundings and keep their head up. This is a contact sport; players know that there is an inherent risk every time they lace up. To discourage a fundamental aspect of the game using mostly arbitrary rulings and judgment calls would serve to neuter the sport of a lot of its passion and entertainment value. I don’t like to see people get hurt; but if someone hits someone cleanly and they get hurt I really don’t see an issue. While I don’t disagree that thorough review would be a reasonable enough process I’m just concerned that its a slippery slope that plays into the hands of guys like that bald idiot Pierre on Versus who want hockey to be figure skating with sticks.

by jigblahdah on Nov 9, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But why should a defenseman who sees someone skating down the middle with his head down think twice about lining him up?

How about because he’d hope if the situations were reversed the other guy wouldn’t be trying to behead him? You can “take a guy out of the play” without making a devastating hit that has a high potential to cause injury. You can “line him up” without trying to separate body parts.
There are “legal” hits. There are “clean” hits. Not all legal hits are clean ones…..

by dbmaven on Nov 9, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When you read that back to yourself does it sound naive at all? With the crowd roaring and youre down a goal and a guy is skating down the middle with his head down do you really expect someone to hesitate to level him. What better way to gain some momentum and get your teammates/crowd back in the game? A hit that’s legal should not be penalized. But if its dirty that player should expect to be punished by his opponents. Can you honestly say that youre glad that no one stood up for drury, the captain of the team, when he was hit without the puck?

by jigblahdah on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s only naive if you choose to take it in the context of the current state of affairs. It’s not naive at all if the severe crackdown took place and was a recognized standard.

All of the roaring in the world wouldn’t override a deep seated desire to maintain a paycheck. And if, once, a player got “caught up in the moment” and got suspended for 10 games, I guarantee that the next time the same situation arose, he’d find a way to “take the edge off” the hit.

If a hit causes an injury, the first take should be that it was illegal. If upon review it turns out to be legal, with no ‘punishment’ required – fine. Today, the situation is reversed – regardless of the level of injury caused, the first take is that it’s legal.

As I’ve already explained, no degree of punishment meted out with the fists of the opposing team will deter this type of behavior. A 5 minute major and a misconduct won’t prevent the offender from doing the same thing the next time the opportunity arises – especially when he’s not only managed to take out one player by injury, but is joined in the penalty box by the guy looking to put a beat down on him.

by dbmaven on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So youre glad no one stood up for drury?

by jigblahdah on Nov 10, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry drury is not a superstar !!!

if drury was alexander the great or cindy crosby this thug would be gone for 20 gamesmr.buttman is a joke so is the n.hl. if avery did this he would be banned and thrown out of hockey mr.buttman you suck ..

by lohaus#54 on Nov 9, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Three games isn't enough

that hit is worth a minimum of 5 games just because he basically blindsided Drury. Sure, you can blame Drury for not paying attention to what’s going on, but it’s quite hard to dodge a check while you’re anticipating a pass. This is quite similar to the Richards’ hit on David Booth: A player is distracted with the play, and then he gets blindsided by a guy who he hasn’t noticed. I use this example all the time when talking about how bad Colin Campbell can be at discipline: Kris Versteeg gets two games for an instigator penalty after he basically tugs on Kyle Turris’ jersey. Sidney Crosby and Jason Arnott get instigators for beating up guys who don’t want to fight them, but they don’t get suspended.

This basically shows that if you’re a star player going after someone, you’re not going to get suspended while if you’re a known goon, you’re going to get suspended. If Steve Ott did this, he’d get at least 8 games. Pronger would get 3 for being a repeat offender. Yet if Ovechkin or Richards did the same thing, people would immediately defend them “Richards made a clean hit”, “Ovechkin just plays physical” because they’re not goons. Basically Bettman doesn’t want his moneymakers like Crosby, Ovechkin and Richards to miss time because they’re gooning it up. Greed is starting to get in the way of logic, Campbell is going to have to make a statement by suspending a star player for an offense one day. Especially if it’s Crosby, Richards or Ovechkin

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by Space Weed on Nov 9, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“Sure, you can blame Drury for not paying attention to what’s going on, but it’s quite hard to dodge a check while you’re anticipating a pass.”

That’s the key here. Drury anticipated a pass as did Glenncross. I really don’t think he was gunning for his head or else it would have looked a lot uglier. Maybe he’s skilled enough at running people to make it look unintentional, but it really looked like he was trying to make a play on a guy about to catch a pass. Sorry, I don’t feel the outrage here, but I understand the anger at consistency lacking in enforcement. CC has never been one to ignore who is involved, but that has to come from his boss.

by Blueshirts Rock on Nov 9, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well we all know how bad buttman is.

while were at it i might as well say that im pretty sure a certain commish was pulling for a certain team to win the cup. and did some stuff to make sure it came true ;)

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 10, 2009 5:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I converted...

I admittedly liked the “gritty” hard-nosed NHL for a long time, but the recent rash of head-shots is scary.

Now that I have an 8 year old that plays on a travel team and appears to be headed for many years of competitive hockey I think something needs to be done.

The question about whether it’s a hit to the head, or an intent to injure shouldn’t make a difference. The shot on the Kitchener Ranger was not intended to be a hit to the head, but it was an attempt to hit like he was a Mack Truck with a full load. I’m quickly becoming a believer that full speed hits, especially when the opposing player isn’t prepared is not only unnecessary it is with intent to cause injury and should be dealt with. The concept itself will be highly criticized but isn’t being criticized for being cautious better than being criticized for doing nothing?

Mike Richards check was clean, completely legal and within the rules, but was it really necessary? So was the hit on the Kitchener Ranger. Glencrosses hit was clearly late, clearly a penalty and clearly unnecessary. They were all unnecessary unless the intent was to injure and that’s what needs to be eliminated. The league is better with it’s better players healthy.

by NYdemo on Nov 10, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Its quite relieving that Chris Drury doesn’t get any serious Head Injury or any other injury otherwise there were chances of severe damage in the result of that collision. The ban for three matches certainly teaches the lesson to the players who quite willfully try to end the careers of other players.

by Aarone on Nov 26, 2009 6:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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