Rangers News: Can you play defense? Can you do it cheap? Call Glen.....

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 3, 2009 3:01 PM EST in Rangers News Comment 50 comments

So according to Andrew Gross, Wade Redden skated today, but does not look comfortable in contact drills (insert joke here), meaning he probably won't be ready to go Saturday night.

This leaves the Rangers with a bit of a sticky wicket. With the addition of Chad Johnson and Erik Christensen's salaries to the payroll, even with the subtraction of Steve Valiquette, the Rangers do not have the cap space to call up anyone, like Bobby Sanguinetti.

From Andrew's story:

The quick story on the numbers, though. The Rangers, who reportedly had about $800,000 of wiggle room, did substract Valiquette’s $725,000 but Johnson is on the books for a reported $660,000 and Christensen is at $750,000 so the Rangers must figure out how to squeeze another defenseman onto their roster. The brass is working on that now.

Perhaps the Rangers will have to shed Aaron Voros and his $900,000 salary. Or Brian Boyle at $500,000.

Rangers may be looking for a defenseman on Craig's List by day's end.

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Problemmmm

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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 3, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions

Either Voros gets waived, or Brashear goes on LTIR. Then one of the Hartford D-men gets called up.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions

Screw it

Make Drury our 6th defenseman. He’s ineffective as a forward lately anyway.

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by George E. Ays on Dec 3, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions

The Rangers are currently $214,000 over the cap. They need to LTIR Brashear or Dubinsky if they don’t plan on moving anyone.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions

Maybe a dumb question, but

Is there a downside to putting Dubi on the LTIR?

by WalkerNYRanger on Dec 3, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions

In the short term, no. But they would have to clear cap room for him to return, essentially leaving them in the position they are now, just delayed a bit.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions

If you’re looking at CapGeek (like I am) I suspect that’s because they’re showing Valiquette still on the roster with Chad Johnson also there. I don’t think Johnson has officially been called up yet – it’s probably effective tomorrow.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions

Vally needs to be on there because his prorated $725k still has an effect on the cap.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions

Oops, I read that graph wrong.

When Vally gets removed, the Rangers will have $250k in cap room available.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions

LOL – we were typing at the same time. That’s correct.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

I spent about two hours writing a post on the pros and cons of buying out Rozsival, numbers are fuzzy right now lol

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions

But that does no good until after the season is over – the ‘buyout period’ is something like 15 days starting around July 1, right?

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions

June 15-30. We are going to hear a lot about buying out Rozsival in the coming months, I wanted to write about it.

I love the business of the game (as if you couldn’t tell already)

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions

I can’t say that I “love” it like you – but as you can tell I’ve read (and tried to understand) the CBA and how it impacts the ability to make day-to-day and strategic “people” decisions.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions

And I should add – the discussion on buying out Rozsival, Redden or Drury makes for an interesting article. Look forward to seeing it.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions

Already up ;)

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions

I’ll check it out during my commute this evening !

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions

They’re both showing in the calculations for the ACTIVE roster.
Valiquette’s numbers hitting the projected cap final as if he were remaining on the active roster, which as of tomorrow he will not.

Johnson has not been added to the active roster as of this point.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

they can't add johnson to the roster until vali clears waiver at noon tomorrow

by chuck1ley on Dec 3, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions

Vali cleared waivers at noon today.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions

how about this.

send voros down and put brash on the litr.

than well have enough money to call up sangs.

and when dubinsky comes back we will be set with 13 forwards and 7 dmen.

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 3, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions

And who provides the toughness? At least Voros has played somewhat well in his role.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions

good point dave.. so then someones gotta go. 15 forwards is a bit much. i mean u can do it but i doubt they will.

oh and quick not. duncan keith signed a 13 year 72 mill deal today.

little ridiculous with these longtermdeals huh?

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 3, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions

Can’t blame the GMs for exploiting a blatant loophole in the CBA. I have no problem with teams doing this to retain home grown talent.

Plus, I want the Hawks to stay together, they are really fun to watch. If they can shed that Brian Campbell albatross of a contract, they will be able to keep that team together for a long time.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions

im not saying i have a problem with it. its smart.

im just saying their a bit ridiculous. not so much for keith cause hes young and will be able to play strong through the 13 years. but hossa?

will kane and toews were both resigned for 5 years, so it seems sharp will be the odd man out. he would be a nice top line center :)

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 3, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions

Isn’t Sharp a LW?

I’d rather give AA a shot, I mean, he’s about $3 million cheaper.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions

Sharp is a C

And Keith is 26 idk if i wanna pay a defenseman 5.5 million dollars till he is 39 … oh wait

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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 3, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions

If he retires, then that number is off the books.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions

ROFLMAO

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions

i can be funny

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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions

lmao +1

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

Tortorella

In this picture, Torts looks like he is about to a big poop……just sayin’

by MattPwrcf1 on Dec 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions

Make Drury play defense,he's used to going backwards anyway......

by froese99 on Dec 3, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions

Interesting update....

Here’s a copy/paste from Twitter:

@AGrossRecord
#NYRangers recall D Ilkka Heikkinen from Hartford because Wade Redden not likely to be ready for Saturday’s game at Buffalo.

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions

I have Heiniken in my fridge. I will be saving them for the game now.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

We need a physical D…..please recall Dale Purinton :)

by MattPwrcf1 on Dec 3, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

we need a physical defenseman

not peoples eyes gouged out all over the ice

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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions

yeah…that is actually all I can remember about Purinton….pretty sad….that guy was an animal and did not belong in the NHL

by MattPwrcf1 on Dec 3, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions

Dubi will LTIRed and the equivalent of his salary will pay for the new moves in the short term. there is no downside to this since he has already missed the required days and games to qualify to return from LTIR whenever he is ready.

by mleetch352 on Dec 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions

He has been LTIR’d.

The downside is that the prorated cap hit of the extra players counts towards the year end hit, giving the Rangers less flexibility to make moves at the deadline.

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by Dave Shapiro on Dec 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

but the prorated days missed by dubi is given as an ability to go that amount over the cap.

by mleetch352 on Dec 3, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions

finally glen sathers awful contracts are catching up to him. maybe now they can throw him off the boat and get someone in there who will cut the fat and give this team a chance for the future.

by ImaMoose on Dec 3, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions

speaking of catching up

where the hell have you been?

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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 3, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions

i guess heikkenen gets his chance now. he didnt look good in preseason but lets see

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions

Anybody else find it “interesting” that instead of Sanguinetti, they’re bringing Heikkinen up??

It could be nothing more than giving him a look for a couple of games to see how he does at the NHL level.
It could be that they’ve seen what that wanted out of Sanguinetti and are giving up on him.
It could be that they’re giving other GMs a chance to scout them at the NHL level and are getting ready to pull the strings on a deal if someone’s interested for “multiple players”.

Lot’s of “what if’s” – I certainly don’t have answers…..

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions

i thinking their just giving him a taste with a few games

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by Moshe52792 on Dec 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions

As I said – anything is possible – we won’t know until something does (or doesn’t) happen.

An interesting stat found on Zipay’s blog:

The 25-year-old Heikkinen, signed as a free agent last May, was 5-11-16 in 24 games in Hartford and second in shots.

Could be that they’re looking for more shots from the D – and this guy can provide that. Whether he’ll be a continuation of the “defensive liability corps” is the real question….

by dbmaven on Dec 3, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions

It's probably as simple as your first option

Tortorella has said that the biggest thing in his mind regarding rookies is getting them accustomed to the speed of the NHL game.

Giving Sangs and now Heineken a game or three at the NHL level is very likely part of a developmental plan.

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by George E. Ays on Dec 3, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions

Hey Smurf...............Heineken? Got something on your mind bro?...lol.

by giantsNYrangers on Dec 4, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions

Deliberate typo

I’ve called him Guinness, Heineken, AmstelLight..and a few other things already. His name lends itself to really terrible comedy.

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by George E. Ays on Dec 4, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions

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