Rangers Recap/Rant: Rangers Throttled by Flyers, 6-0
Needless to say, tonight's effort was the worst of the season. Worse than the 8-3 loss to the Penguins, worse than the 2-1 loss to the Islanders a few weeks back, and possibly even worse than last year's 10-2 loss to the Dallas Stars. I mean, I really cannot pick out any one thing the Rangers did right in this game. The defense was porous, the offense had just nine shots halfway through the game, and both goaltenders allowed three goals. Nothing went right for this team at all tonight, and that is clearly shown on the scoreboard which reads 6-0.
The fun all began with a rebound goal by former Ranger Blair Betts 54 seconds into the tilt. It was Marian Gaborik who should have taken the stick off Betts out of the play, but for the third time this season (yes, I am counting) he was unable to do just that, leading to Blair's fourth goal of the season. Danny Briere followed that up with a tally ten minutes later, as he was given all of the time and room he needed to freeze Lundqvist and beat him low to make it 2-0 Flyers. To cap-off the third period, Claude Giroux sent a low wrister past Lundqvist, igniting a John Tortorella timeout. Much like in the game against the Devils back in October, Torts went on a rant, yelling and screaming into his players' faces. However, this time around it was to no avail as it did not change one thing about the way the game was being played.
Henrik Lundqvist was removed from the game, leaving rookie goaltender Chad Johnson to make his NHL debut on very short notice. 23 seconds into Johnson's career, Simon Gagne sent a sharp angle shot into the back of the net, giving the Flyers a 4-0 lead right out of the gate. After about twelve minutes of defensive mistakes, missed opportunities, and powerless powerplays, the Blueshirts were burned yet again when Gagne netted his second of the game with a 5 on 3 man advantage goal. On this particular play, Johnson made at least three consecutive saves, but the defense in front of him gave him absolutely no help, and eventually Gagne was found for the tap-in.
The third period just had no action or no life to it, really from either team. It was just laid back defensive hockey by the Flyers with the Rangers constantly turning the puck over when entering the offensive zone. With just under eight minutes remaining in the tilt, Gagne recorded his first hat-trick since 2005 when Philadelphia was allowed to walk in and make a pretty play. The story of the night for the Rangers.
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I will start my rant with discussing head coach John Tortorella. His team was flat to start the game, so he went with plan A; timeout. You could see the anger in his face which was beat red, but it had not one ounce of an impact on the players. They did not respond, so on to plan B; pull the goalie. Thinking the team would pick themselves up after seeing their starter put on the bench and a first-time rookie in net, Tortorella's brilliant ideas failed him yet again. No response from the boys in blue, leaving the steaming head coach with nothing to do but jumble the lines. Torts had no clue as to where to go from there, so all he did was shake up the lineup and wait for the final buzzer. He even admitted to it in his postgame conference, "I have no answer". He may not realize it, but that sure answers a lot of our questions.This loss comes because of not only a lack of execution, but a lack of effort as well. When a team is missing both of those and does not have either or, the result is not a pretty one more often than not. Well, here you go, a perfect example with this debacle.
As I predicted on the blog yesterday, Chris Higgins did not last more than two periods on the first line with Marian Gaborik and Brandon Dubinsky. Like I had suggested, Tortorella put Avery on that line and at least there was a bit of a spark. However, still no goals, still no conversion. Same story, different night. It is getting tiresome when watching this team not able to produce offense, and I do not know at what point GM Glen Sather will become the least bit alarmed.
When Marian Gaborik has a terrible game, you would have to assume as did the team. That was the case tonight. Sure, Gabs has been fantastic for this team this season, but he did not play well in the contest. He barely had the puck, he was turning it over at the blueline, and just was not himself. Do not get me wrong, it is not solely his fault, but I am just making it a point that when Gabs is off, so are the Rangers.
Rookie Chad Johnson had a nice welcoming into the league with the first shot against going in, but after that he settled in and made some key saves. I was pretty impressed with his effort, as Chad played well for a rookie entering a blowout such as this one.
New York will be back at it again tomorrow against the Carolina Hurricanes in Carolina. Now I would like to say something of importance here. It seems like whenever this team is blown out, they always bounce back with a solid effort and everything is good and well yet again. No, that should not be the mentality here. We are at about the midway point here, and this team has already had several games in which they looked like they did not care. They need a hell of a lot more than just one single win if they want to redeem themselves.
[Note by Jim Schmiedeberg, 12/31/09 12:03 PM EST Here are the quotes from last night's post game]
POST-GAME QUOTES
John Tortorella on going forward
We start over. That is the best thing for us right now is to get on a plane and play. Some things, obviously, there has to be some discussion on certain situations but we have to start over. We have to start over. The best thing for us is to play right away.
Henrik Lundqvist on tonights game
We were into a really nice rhythm before the break. The last two games, I think, our energy was okay but not tonight. In our zone, we have to be ready to battle. We just made it way too easy.
Marian Gaborik on tonights game
We werent ready. They got three quick goals and then nothing was working out for us. It is obviously unacceptable. The positive thing is that we play tomorrow. We need to redeem ourselves.
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i didnt get to catch the game.
BUT no way should higgins even be on the first line. really. absolutely not.
he shouldnt even be on the 2nd line.
disgusting effort all around i guess, but like i said i didnt see it, and looking at the score i dont think i want to
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by Moshe52792 on Dec 30, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Save yourself the pain and skip over this one, lol
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well said. I feel bad for johnson … not the way he envisioned his first debut for the rangers in the regular season.
by NYR9320 on Dec 30, 2009 10:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Higgins should be on the third line … not 1 or 2 line
by NYR9320 on Dec 30, 2009 10:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was at this game
it was my first and only game of the year. it was the worst piece of hockey i have ever seen. we came out completely flat. passes were sloppy. i can’t even remember one hit we threw all game. i will not attend another ranger game until sather is gone and we can fix the joke that is our team, the New York Rangers
by Rangerguy on Dec 30, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for you, lol
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game too...
It was the worst Rangers game I have ever been to. The crowd was dead, there was nothing to cheer or get excited about. No ‘lets go Rangers’ chants. After the first period I spent the rest of the game ranting in my head and missing the days of Messier, Graves, Leetch, and Richter. Something needs to change.
by oywiththepoodlesalready on Dec 30, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do that sometimes, lol
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
I mean, I know I’m his lone defender at this point…but they get destroyed 6-0, and we’re scapegoating Higgins? Really? The guy who led the team in SOG and total shots tonight? Really?
Where the hell was Drury tonight? 0 shots. 0 hits. 30% faceoffs, Team leading (in the bad way) -11 Corsi,
58 seconds into the 1st: Avery-Dubinsky-Gaborik are scored against
23 seconds into the 2nd: Avery-Dubinsky-Callahan are scored against.
How does that happen two periods in a row?
Dubi was a -4. Every member of the defense was at least -1.
Jesus, I mean god knows it’s frustrating as hell to watch Higgins fail and fail some more every game…but let’s be realistic.
The team suck suckity suck sucked for 60 minutes tonight. This was not a one man effort.
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by RangerSmurf on Dec 30, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I said that in the article. It was eveyone’s fault, even Gaborik’s.
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im not picking a scapegoat.
i didnt even watch the game..
i was just pointing out that he shouldnt be on the first line.
ill stand to my point that AA should be until prospal comes back
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by Moshe52792 on Dec 30, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Smurf
It is getting hard to defend Higgins at this point. He isn’t scoring goals period, and thats what he was brought here to do. No tonight was not his fault, but his lack of goals are hurting.
Drury on the other hand has been a complete failure, nothing to say about him.
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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 30, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Higgins totally should have helped out on the Briere goal – he was just looking at him from 4 feet back…but seriously everyone was for sh*t tonight.
by j.surly on Dec 31, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't have to tell me
I’m running out of things to defend him with really, and I do want to see him traded so we get value for himi since he’s definitely not being re-signed. I added up his total misses to make an argument last night for goodness sake. I just found it hilarious that of all people he’s the first one people mention, like him being on the 1st line was this catastophic event that caused the downfall of the Rangers.
It’s easy to figure out really…it’s frustrating to me when fans give passes to guys because they like them and lambaste them when they don’t, whether or not they deserve praise/criticism. For example, I know Nick pointed out that everyone sucked, and good job by him. But he still makes it a point to note that Avery provided a spark over Higgins on the 1st line. What spark? Avery was a -3 and the team generated very few shots while he was on. I mean other than the fact that Avery always provides a spark because he’s an agitator, I don’t understand pointing out the line change as any kind of notable event.
We all love Sean, but he’s scored in 2 games this year. Two goals in a 7-2 win. Two goals in a 7-4 win. When does he stop getting a pass b/c of his intangibles?
We love MDZ too, and he’s a rookie so there are growing pains and I understand that, but he’s -16 in his last 16 games and only has 4 points.
Drury – what the hell can you say at this point.
Ugh….it’s just frustrating to watch this team. Don’t mind me.
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by RangerSmurf on Dec 31, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The more I watch Higgins, the more I have nightmares of Valeri Kamensky and Martin Rucinsky. Like those guys, he doesn’t produce but he still plays valuable minutes on the top 2 lines and on the power play. In reality, the better analogy is that Higgins is the new Fredrik Sjostrom. He’s a penalty killer and 4th line chugger. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
At this point, we know Higgins isn’t going to score. Let’s try something different.
by J76 on Dec 31, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rucinsky averaged damn .8 point per game with the Rangers. Then again, that’s the same rate Gomez scored at as a Ranger, and everyone said he sucked too.
Kamensky’s a fair comparison, in that both played well, came to the Rangers, and forgot how to get on the score sheet.
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by RangerSmurf on Dec 31, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right. To be fair, Rucinsky did produce some points with the Rangers which is more than Higgins has done.
by J76 on Dec 31, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone think somethings gonna come after this game? maybe a demotion of some sorts? maybe sather tells torts that garborik isnt performing up to par and he needs to be benched? MAYBE we’ll see roszival finally be held accountable for his actions. Its unfortunate but overall, Who are the worst 3 teams in the NHL…. unfortunately in MY opinion as well as countless other nhl overseers, we are damn well there.
by Dougee on Dec 30, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we all hope and pray something comes out of it, but who knows if it will.
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1st time posting, but read everyday
I think Torts should’ve pulled a Herb Brooks, and made the team keep there Equipment on and run sprints or something. I live in Utah now and have to pay for the Center Ice package, This was the 1st game that I wished I had paid for it just so I didn’t have to watch.
by Nyrfan23 on Dec 30, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he might have if they did not have to play tomorrow.
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He still should have at least the would have an excuse to play 2mrw with no energy
by Nyrfan23 on Dec 30, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor, NRYFan23
You waited until this debacle to post. :( But…welcome!!!
I hope the 23 is for Beuk.
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by pslieber on Dec 31, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at this game - what a joke.
As if the lack of effort and heart wasn’t bad enough, I had three drunk and moronic Flyers fans behind me rubbing it in loudly with tons of profanity until they were thrown out by security. I wish security had thrown out the whole team as well.
There’s no excuse for a group of highly paid professional athletes with a devoted and passionate fan base to come out and play like they have been up all night partying.
Once a season I can see it, but the season isn’t quite half over and there have been at least three of these I can remember – Tampa, Islanders and now this garbage.
by Joe1969 on Dec 30, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I could throw in Pitts, and San Jose if you want to count those as well. =/
by CrazyRangerFan on Dec 31, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s true CRF – but I sort of blamed those 2 on Vali. Maybe unfairly.
by Joe1969 on Dec 31, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fully agree with your "rant" NYRBlogger
So…What’s Next?
Someone asked the inevitable question tonight on the open-game thread: Is Torts job on the line?
I say Sather is too complacent to fire him, but more importantly that would just be admission of yet another failure on Sather’s part. However the fact is this team is simply not responding to Tortorella anymore. His ranting and raving is falling on deaf ears. He’s run out of options. And how many more times can he juggle lines before all combinations have been exhausted?
There is no excuse for this team to not “be ready” for divisional games that have playoff implications. What more motivation do they need? It’s hard to put your finger on it… Are they playing to get the coach fired? I believe some players are doing just that.
My assessment: This is just a poorly constructed team. They have too many weaknesses to really be competitive. No true #1 center, only one scoring threat in Gaborik, no big, tough defensive-minded defenseman, no capable back up goalie to periodically take pressure off Lundqvist, questionable leadership, and 2 lazy, selfish players in Redden and Kotalik. Not a good recipe for winning hockey.
To make matters worse, they have very few options if even considering a trade.
Problem #1: Drury, Roszival, and Redden, because of their contracts, are essentially untradable.
Problem #2: They have very few players other teams would be interested in, aside from Lundqvist, Staal, Del Zotto, Anisimov, and Callahan, and those guys aren’t going anywhere.
Problem #3: The rest of the league is well-aware of the Rangers issues, and they’re not simply going to accommodate the Blueshirts with a trade (Kind of like Gainey did by taking Gomez and his fat contract off their hands).
by AZRangerFan on Dec 30, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You make some good points, but the best of them all are on Torts. Like you said, the players are no longer responding to him, a very alarming sign considering Renney was fired for the same reason last year.
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing is next
this is the New York Rangers, we don’t fix problems we throw paint over them and pray that they go away
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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 30, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Is it Torts that lost the players or did the players stop caring and lose sight of what he is trying to do? Have they all become Apathetic? Everyone gets on Torts for yelling and screaming. He’s trying to motivate his players. Millions of dollars don’t seem to do it. Pride doesn’t seem to do it. The Fans don’t seem to do it… If all his ranting falls on deaf ears it’s the players fault, for choosing to ignore him… They all know what kind of coach he is. It’s not like this is a new thing for them. When he starts yelling its time to get your ass in gear, and he’s laying out what they need to do to win the game… it’s pretty straight forward. He could stand there and quietly explain to them “ok… please pretty please play defense.. please”… I don’t know about you but I wanted to go down to the bench and scream at every one of them. All the players respect him and say that they know what he really wants to do is make them better players. He’s brutally honest. I’ll be very upset if he gets fired with out really getting a chance. He doesn’t have all the pieces he needs to make a successful team. We have no scoring besides Gaborik…and we have an overpaid weak defense. We all needed Drury, Avery, Dubi, Cally, Higgins, Lisin, MDZ, Gilroy… to score some goals. They aren’t… I will however get on Torts for changing his lines all the time. How can you figure out what’s going on when you have a different guy on your wing every other shift? Overall this game was a sh*t show… at least Ocho Cinco looked ok between the pipes. Was a nice glove save he had… I hate being a sports fan… Esp. A NY Sports fan.
by fromthe51hate on Dec 31, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, definitely not ALL Torts fault
You are right 51hate- this team clearly is lacking in several areas, and that’s not all on Tortorella. He has to be frustrated as hell because some players seem to have tuned him out, some have come to the realization that this collection of players aren’t good enough to compete, some have lost confidence, and some a combination of all three. As NYRBlogger pointed out it’s an alarming sign when players are no longer responding to a coach that’s been here less than a year.
And I think yet another huge problem (as if they needed another) is this team’s lack of identity. At the start of the year Tortorella was preaching this more offensive attack style, but it soon became obvious that the Rangers just didn’t have enough skill players to successfully pull it off as other teams “caught up to them” conditioning-wise… then came the defensive breakdowns, so they decided to switch gears, hunker down and begin concentrating more on defense… OK, so we were back to Renney-style hockey. Now when that fails, what do you have left?
Lines are constantly being shuffled, players are being benched, demoted, called out, moved around like chess pieces. It’s evident that the players are completely confused, as witnessed by their play on the ice. In short, it’s a total mess… but I guess you didn’t need me to tell you that…
by AZRangerFan on Dec 31, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah its not all torts' fault........
but why does he give Brashear 5 shifts in the 1st period???? a lot of his decisions make zero sense sometimes.
by CrazyRangerFan on Dec 31, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i have no idea… maybe he thinks he doesn’t have a choice?
by fromthe51hate on Dec 31, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fromthe51hate:
Thank you.
Thank you for saying everything I would have said – and maybe more.
Thank you for saving me the agony of having to type it out and read what I wrote.
I’ll add this – as AZRangerFan did already in a round-about way – this is less about Tortorella – and more about the construction of the team – which means it’s really about Sather……
by dbmaven on Dec 31, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 31, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification
Btw, when I said that I predicted Higgins would not last on the first line on “the blog”, that was not here, but on my site (The Rangers Tribune). Sorry, I should have cleared taht up earlier.
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by NYRBlogger on Dec 30, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
idc what coach we have..
until sather is gone. were nothing
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by Moshe52792 on Dec 30, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah but when you think about it
this team hasn’t been ready for half their games, thats on the coach
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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 30, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UGH I really like Torts,I thought him coming to the team would be the perfect fit,in getting millionares to play hockey instead of enjoy their time in the big city.I know a thing or two about leadership(having served several yrs in the Army) and Torts’ tactics are (like AZ said) transparent.Torts even said he can’t be the idiot that freaks out every 5 games,at least he’s a very honest man and I respect that.
Drury is lost,he infuriates me when he’s interviewed,is it me,,or does he NOT give a F,that he’s coming across as NOT giving an F?? That "C" needs to get off him,I personally like Prospal,he’s Exp,and is fired up every night,AND says what we’re thinking when he’s interviewed.
I hope something turns,I don’t want to see Torts fired,he’s the one guy you know really cares
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by JM82 on Dec 30, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a story going up tomorrow about this
It should speak to Drury being so calm
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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 30, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly feel we should pull what Vancouver did and make Hank the Captain, hes the true leader on this team.
by CrazyRangerFan on Dec 31, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Hanks face on the bench and after the game. He was sooo… pissed.
by fromthe51hate on Dec 31, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson
Okay, I realize we all want to give the kid a break on his first time between the pipes at this level – but honestly, he looked like he was moving in slow motion on that second goal. On the first, he had no motion (big problem for a goalie). Look, there was a helluva lot more that wrong on the ice than the way the kid broke his cherry tonite – but honestly, he’s not quite NHL material just yet. It was a shame Torts put him in and that fault rests with him – but he sucked, so let’s just say so and stop echoing Michelletti’s false praise – which was just as ludicrous as his comment on the Flyers “just playing hockey”. Duh, thanks Joe.
Don’t know about you guys, but this is the point in the season where I typically watch games (on center ice) not to see them win – but to watch them lose in the hope that one day, maybe, someone will actually be held accountable for this sad excuse of a team. And forget about draft picks – we’d have better luck training my cat to program my DVR.
So on to tomorrow in Carolina – let’s all hope we don’t bench anyone, play Johnson again, and usher in the New Year with another vintage Ranger performance. Perhaps Torts will even wear a tux – hey, it almost worked for Espo!
by schwartzy on Dec 30, 2009 11:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Wheres that tall fella that....
Owned the flyers last year? oh Vally had a bad game,so he got sent down to destroy his confidence.
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by JM82 on Dec 31, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Torts will even wear a tux…
powder blue just to spite avery.
Agree the kid looked really slow and had poor positioning – you’d think the nerves would’ve made him over-reactive, no? Scary…
by j.surly on Dec 31, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Chad was thrown into a pissed off crowd that was already fuming and booing after the first(i was there and felt pretty terrible that we were sending him in for his first game in such a terrible situation). And on the first play Dubinsky gave the puck away in his own end giving a partial breakaway to easily one of their top 3 forwards who had a pretty much perfect shot for a goal. That has to be demoralizing for a 23 year old goalie who is playing his first Rangers game. As for Vally, he was sucking it up bad enough down in Hartford that there was no way he would have fared better in the NHL.
by Rangerguy on Dec 31, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i am in full agreement – the situation was less than ideal. i really feel for the guy. i was there as well and I must admit, was pissed off also (what you weren’t? – there was zero effort…no one helped Johnson or Hank for that matter.) [was more commenting on his movements and decisions]
by j.surly on Dec 31, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from Dave Moloney's post-game comments
“There have been enough times where we’ve heard ‘Well we gotta come back with some effort’ and ‘What are you gonna take out of this game.’
If life was a learning experience for this club, they’ve had plenty of experiences to be better, when it comes to committing to compete.
And there’s something amiss here where there’s the consistent inability to compete, in all honesty…At some point you go, ‘OK what is really going on?’”
by Joe1969 on Dec 31, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
dave maloney is one brilliant guy,
hes 100% right
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from Dave Moloney's post-game comments
And with that statement, the baton has been formally passed from J.D. to Dave Maloney — preserving the legacy of phenomenal Rangers color commentary. Like J.D., Maloney is as supportive of the club as Daneyko is for the Devils, but not such a ridiculous homer — he has shown a propensity for honest evaluation of the club’s strengths and weaknesses, is humble about his own [significant] accomplishments, has a great sense of humor, and seems to have a good rapport in interviews with today’s players. [Leetch, on the other hand, despite his incredible on-ice contributions to the club, is simply not broadcast material — he was a terrible interview as a player and equally as monotone and lackluster as a broadcaster — maybe Tikkanen is available. ;)]
I think AZRangerFan hit it on the head — some of the veterans who clearly cannot be moved by Sather, are gunning for Tortorella’s head, since he is probably making their lives very tough right now. Renney was a good coach who couldn’t coax consistent competition from this squad, and so far, neither can Tortorella. In classic Broadway drama, Keenan is in the wings, perhaps just waiting for his return to fame and glory. Nonetheless, I don’t think another coaching change is gonna do it.
by PotvinSucks on Dec 31, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
$$$
While I do support hockey players making big money — athletic careers only last a certain amount of time and people do deserve life security…plus there is REAL money being made off of this sport and I don’t see why it shouldn’t go to the ones on the ice who make it happen — the key players on this team are obviously overpaid. A player like Drury, even with his experience and accomplishments, should be making 3.5 mil a year tops. His, what is it, 8 mil salary has to breed some kind of resentment. Duby is making 1.7? Stall is still in the six figures? C’mon. Add to this all of the clauses and its simply ridiculous. Why strap an entire organization’s hands like this? It has to be one of Sather’s all time worst gambles. But we need to begin with stripping Drury of the captaincy and even making him sit for awhile to show the mid-range lunch pail workers on the team that even though all of the best seats in the garden go to Wall St, we do value the blue collar. Start with this before putting Torts’ head on the block. A lot of the line juggling has had to do with having to compensate for injuries and Drury’s not living up to expectations as a first line center. Eight million dollars gets us an ELITE player and as the Penguins demonstrate, cup teams need either two of these guys or a rafter of excellent 3.5 to 4.5 mil dedicated, hard hitting churners a la the Devils. Torts needs to come to terms with the elitism on the squad and chop heads from the top if he is going to have any impact on the squad as a whole. The players understand economics. The players understand that it isn’t fair for a six figure guy whose busting his gut to be railed in the press and sent down to minors while sleepers like Drury come to the game in a limo, don’t provide leadership and still get ice time.
The ax baby, the ax!
by voice22 on Dec 31, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree in that something may actually get done if we continue to put up poor efforts like tonight. I hate seeing the team lose but if it can bring about change then I would prefer that.
by NYR9320 on Dec 31, 2009 1:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
What does it say about the Eastern Conference that a win tomorrow gives us sole possession of 8th place?
by Joe1969 on Dec 31, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
pathetic
or that were lucky we stared 7-1
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we’d gone 500 we would probably be down with Carolina right now.
by Rangerguy on Dec 31, 2009 2:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ABOUT JOHNSON
im sure he was just nervous.
think of it this way. it was his first game. and besides than he wasnt mentaly prepared to play
the hardest thing for a goalie to do is come off the bench.
his first time ever playing in the nhl was coming off the bench in a game where our team did not show-up.
couldnt have expected him to do anything better
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Three days between games and they pull this crap again
I think it’s time to call in some of the kids in Hartford and when the World Junior Championships are done, call in Chris Bourque, Chris Kreider & Derek Stepan to show some of these guys how to play with real heart, real Passion and ACTUALLY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WEARING THOSE JERSEYS THAT SAYS RANGERS ON THE FRONT GOD DAMN IT!
Henrik, Del Zotto, Gilroy, Avery, Gaborik are the only ones actually doing something. Callahan has to wake up, Dubinsky has been decent. Someone call Marc Staal’s Dad to come over and smack him across the face to wake him up.
Chris Drury is such a big talker when he is sitting in the dressing room, yet he can’t talk a big game on the ice. STRIP THE “C” OF HIS JERSEY! Remove that “C” off his jersey and either give it to someone else who truely wants it, or hand Gaborik an “A”. Drury doesn’t deserve to wear that letter or any form of a leadership letter on his jersey.
I was at the Garden to watch this game and I was so disgusted I left after the 2nd Period. For the first time in my life going to Rangers games at the Garden, I have never left in the middle or after two periods of play. I was so disgusted watching this piece of garbage team for the umptenth time come into a game at home or on the road and lay an egg that stunk so bad, it wasn’t worth staying to see if they would make any form of a comeback.
How much more can Tortorella do? This is not his fault. These bastards tuned him out on purpose. They don’t want to play for him. So now it’s time to set the record straight. If Sather has any brains left in that old body of his, send those vets down to Hartford and bring up Grachev, bring back P.A. Parenteau, Corey Locke is the leading scorer.
Kotalik is garbage, Brashear is garbage, Redden & Rozsival are complete garbage. Higgins should be sent back to Montreal and while we are at it, Send Him with Redden there for Paul Mara & any other prospect the Habs will give us. At least Mara showed passion and bled for the Rangers Jersey.
I feel so sorry for Henrik & Chad Johnson. I feel so sorry for Henrik because he is working his rear end off & no one wants to help him out on defense. Chad Johnson actually looked solid going into the 2nd period, just Dubinsky hung him out to dry and he got scored on so fast for no reason. This kid is going to be a future NHL’er someday
I am so ticked off right now. HOW THE HELL IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ALL OF US AS SUPPORTERS OF THIS GREAT HOCKEY CLUB WERE READY TO SEE THE FLYERS GET TAKEN OUT AND THESE PLAYERS DECIDED TO QUIT BEFORE THE NATIONAL ANTHUM WAS SUNG!
If Dolan had any hockey sense he would fire Sather now and either allow Messier to run the ship or call the Blues and try to bring J.D. back to run the club. I will also apologize to Tom Renney as I thought he was the cause of this mess not prepairing the team to go out and fight. It seems to me that the players have already cut their own balls off dispite both Renney & Tortorella.
This was a divisional game that should’ve told the Rangers to get ready and smack these dirtbags around and smack them thru the boards and glass. Whatever fight they showed down in Philly about a week or two ago, they left it down there inside over a foot & a half of snow. This is what they should do inside the Rangers locker room, when they show the film of “I AM A RANGER” before the game starts, show the players that same damned film. If that doesn’t get them ready to play against the Flyers or anyone else in the NHL, that’s when you start trading them, banish them to the minors or just release them a.s.a.p.
This really ticks me off. I’m glad I didn’t have to hear the Flyers fans chanting in the 3rd period.
by NYR #35 Richter on Dec 31, 2009 3:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bourque, Chris Kreider & Derek Stepan are not ready yet for the NHL, Stepan is in his 2nd yr at college. You nmake gret points just like everyone on here. If players are not responding too coachs, then players must be moved albeit we have a GM going nowhere. I hate to say this but we have to keep losing for a chance of Sather resigning at the end of the year.
The only way I see Redden being moved is if they can buy him out. Torts after two periods only gave him 7 + minutes of ice time..ouch..It is obvious the Coach was him and a couple other players gone.
The NHL is so much better when the Rangers are good team via mid-90’s…
by gene4240 on Dec 31, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nail on the head...
should have made my $$$ post after this one. you’re right brother, great insight.
by voice22 on Dec 31, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
......wow.
I’m completely speechless on everything you just said. It hit the nail on the coffin about every single thing I was thinking, in a way I couldn’t express it, but you fucking nailed it. All I can say is thank you for such an insightful post. I, as well as most of the fans that post here, also feel your rage with this team, and wish that we could express it as loud and verbosely as you have.
Sadly, we will never see a buyout. The only buyout we’ve done in the past.. 15 years? was Holik.
by Kritikal on Jan 1, 2010 5:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Most pathetic game I've ever watched
I refuse to spend another cent this decade to support the Rangers after watching tonight’s “effort”. It was like watching the Mets on skates (yeah lucky me, I root for the Rangers AND the Mets). I have so many angry things to say, yet I there’s not even a point to saying them. Fuck Sather, fuck Dolan, fuck this sorry ass excuse for a team. I’ve been about as loyal as you can ask from a fan who has watched this kind of shit for the last decade and a half (and more), but I’m honestly about ready to jump ship from all New York sports unless something changes.
I’m so glad my girlfriend spent over $200 to get me tickets to this game for Christmas. Next year I’ll just ask her for a bottle of cheap liquor and a copy of Platoon and get depressed for $14.
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by Steeeve on Dec 31, 2009 3:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Every time
I hear Torts say " find a way to get it done" I think he’s not doing…exactly that! Adapt for what you’ve got – commit to something…let something develop. sorry, i’m just at the end of my rope seeing this kind of play. Utterly embarrassing.
by j.surly on Dec 31, 2009 4:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Carolina
So are we all in agreement here? We’re pulling for a lopsided loss tonight, and for every night thereafter until some material changes are made – Drury loses ‘C’, Rozi and other offenders sent to Hartford, Sather sent to Edmonton / Palm Springs, etc.?
I’m totally serious here – not that anyone in this organization will care, but let’s face it squeeking out a win tonight just prolongs the misery that much longer.
So who’s with me?
by schwartzy on Dec 31, 2009 6:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
count me in bud. im with you
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im with you bud
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
P.S.
The Knicks lost to the Nets last night… seriously. The stench in little Jimmy’s empire is now at an all time high.
by schwartzy on Dec 31, 2009 7:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A few more games likes this and...
I will start to get really excited about the 2010 draft :)
by MattPwrcf1 on Dec 31, 2009 8:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we should seriously have gotten negative points for that game. New rule change? Losing by over 4 goals= -2 points?
by Rangerguy on Dec 31, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will be very interested to see if the NYR come out and play with some passion tonight. I’ve said this over and over through the years – when a team plays like that, you need to do something drastic. You obviously cant sit half the team (even more now in the Cap age)…but the Rangers showed no fight at all – so institute a new rule – if you turn away from a hit, you lose a shift. if you make mindless turnovers, you sit for the rest of the period. Heck, Id go so far as to fine people, but I bet thats somehow prohibited by the CBA!
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by poploser on Dec 31, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sather
The problem is simply the most of the highest paid guys are only leading the team in Age.
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Dec 31, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Higgins
I’ve been a fan of blueshirt banter for over a year now and never planned on commenting…I just enjoyed reading other Ranger fans thoughts and opinions. After reading a lot of fans opinions on Higgins, I have to say something…
I’m getting really sick of everyone making Higgins out to be the bad guy. Should he be scoring more goals? Yes. But is he the reason the Rangers are losing? No. I get angry when I read all these comments about how the Rangers should trade him, bench him, etc. Personally, I feel he’s put in a lot more effort on the ice than others. He has consistently led the team with SOG’s. They might not be hitting the back of the net but he’s not the only one. He can penalty kill and forecheck harder than others. He might not be getting the points Gaborik is getting but whether people want to admit it or not, he is a player worth having right now. The problem this year is the WHOLE TEAM, not Chris Higgins.
by Kate9 on Dec 31, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I have to agree. I feel bad for the guy.. cause he does make an effort every night. He just can’t score. Personally, I’m just irritated that he was put on the first line, which I realize is not his fault. However, because he’s only signed for one year and this team in the shitter he really should be moved. Prospal should be moved too. Face it people, we need to start getting ready for NEXT year now.
by jigblahdah on Dec 31, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is
They’re tied for the last playoff spot Playoffs equal more money for owners.
Good luck with thinking Dolan will allow Sather to sell pieces while in playoff position. Really, in the Bettman NHL, it’s entirely too easy to stay in contention all season.
They’re going to make moves, but I doubt they’ll be smart ones (i.e. seller’s moves)
Camp Tortorella - Where Vomit is a Mainstay
by RangerSmurf on Dec 31, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
And that’s the problem with a Sather constructed team. They’re always just good enough to make the playoffs, which in the past meant a lot. But several years of first round exits have left us thirsty for more. Unfortunately, I don’t think Dolan cares as long as the garden sells out every night. Obviously, their measure of success is different than ours. I really don’t see Sather going anywhere as long as this team makes the playoffs.
by jigblahdah on Dec 31, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its not that I dislike Higgins. I think he gives a good effort and is a good penalty killer. But he doesn’t score and shouldn’t be on the top line or the power play at this point.
This team has more problems than we have time to post about…
by J76 on Dec 31, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
u got it.
he tries hard. and i love that about him. but no way should he be on the 1st. let alone the 2nd
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
u got it.
he tries hard. and i love that about him. but no way should he be on the 1st. let alone the 2nd
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Higgins w/o Gaborik: On ice for 8 goals, on ice against 19
Higgins w/ Gaborik: On Ice for 5 goals, 3 against.
Avery w/o Gaborik: 13 for, 16 against
Avery w/ Gaborik: 6 for, 3 against
Anisimov w/o Gaborik: 11 for, 20 against
Anisimov w/ Gaborik: 7 for, 0 against.
The case is pretty clear who should be paired with him.
And one other note:
Higgins @ ES: 4 goals – 84 shots 4.5%
Avery @ ES: 2 goals – 66 shots 2.9%
If we should bury HIggins, we should bury Avery. Just sayin.
Camp Tortorella - Where Vomit is a Mainstay
by RangerSmurf on Dec 31, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Avery isn’t a first line guy either. He’s not a natural scorer by any means. He hasn’t scored 20 goals in a season since he played in the OHL. But he does offer a physical presence that Higgins does not.
In any case, I’d like to see AA and Lisin get an extended look with Gaborik.
by J76 on Dec 31, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Higgins has just become the poster boy for the Rangers lack of secondary scoring. I don’t think anyone in their right mind expected 35+ goals from him, but on the other hand I don’t think it was unreasonable to expect him to chip in 15-20 goals as a 2nd or 3rd liner. Unfortunately, it looks like he’s going to struggle just to reach double-digits. He has been given every opportunity to produce, including being placed on the top line, but he’s just coming up empty. I’m sure it’s just as frustrating to him as it is to Ranger fans. Having said that, he is certainly not the sole reason the Rangers problems. If anything, he gives more of an honest effort night in and night out than 75% of his teammates.
by AZRangerFan on Dec 31, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Higgins is one of those guys that does everything right, except for put up points. He’s too good at what he does to be a fourth line grinder, but not able to put up points to get first or second line time. He even seems to have such hockey sense that I kinda wouldn’t want to see him on our current third line. Perhaps if the third line was Higgins/Anisimov/Lisin it might make some sense, but Tort doesn’t have faith in Lisin despite him playing about as hard as Higgins does night in night out, even with a lack of ice time. Only time will tell what happens with this team.
by Kritikal on Jan 1, 2010 5:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it me or...
…how many coaches are hired to get it done in their first year with a lackluster team? I think the plan for Torts was more along the lines of a 2-3 year deal and more long term. We make the playoffs this year or not we are hardly a threat, next year we get some more youth in here for Torts to mold. If you look at his stats in Tampa, this is promising.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tortorella#NHL_coaching_record
by Dekim19 on Dec 31, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i rather suck for 3 years and than be contenders for 10.
better than getting 8th place for the next 5 years and trading aay our prospects over and over again for nothing.
i mean last year at the trade deadline we lost a 2nd round pick, prucha, and dawes. can someone tell me what we got out of that?
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets all just face facts...
This team is awful and there isn’t much that can be done about it. I have been right here along with all of you, ranting, voicing my albeit unprofessional opinions. Is there even a shread of a chance that anyone in the organization actually reads along. I doubt it. I am 32 years old and played hockey for over 25 years. I never miss a ranger game, go to about 10-15 games a year and some playoff contests when I can afford it. But I can actually say, for the first time in my life, I just don’t want to watch anymore. It’s too much to watch your team go out and lose in that type of fashion nigh in and night out. The frustration is overwhelming as is to all of you i’m sure from reading your posts. Drury is by far, the worst captain this team has seen in a long time and with the rest of these losers we have the must just look around the locker room and not care either, if your captain can’t even get fired up, at 7 million a year why would they. I don’t even know where to go with this , I’m just saying for the record, I’m getting a Bergfors jersey and moving into the armpit…..
by lwhit7873 on Dec 31, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i hear you bud.. i know u wont switch teams but i hate being a ranger fan.
even when this team sucks im excited that their on.. when i look at the schedule and see that me teams on that night i should get excited, not upset
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hear you bud.. i know u wont switch teams but i hate being a ranger fan.
even when this team sucks im excited that their on.. when i look at the schedule and see that me teams on that night i should get excited, not upset
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that 4 game win streak seems like it happened months ago.
by earthworm on Dec 31, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
our team...............our organization?
sad days but first of all, i think there is an organization wide problem ( the rangers and the wolfpack) I saw the Wolfpack play in early Dec. against the penguins. the wolfpack got blownout, but what i took from that game in studying the players and coaches ( i was right behind the wolfpack bench) is that there were only a few players that still played hard and cared. the wolfpack scored first but then Justin Soryal got beat up and didnt return and it went downhill from there. Some that stick out are Brodie Dupont, who tried to get the boys going by yelling some encourgement ( i dont think many guys listened) Corey Potter played a decent game and was on ice for all situations, Dale Weise and Dane Byers tried hard. and while Grachev is big and has talent and hopefully will be a good ranger some day, that day is not this season. He is not ready. the coaches stood out for good and bad reasons. the bad coach Ken Gernander didnt say one peep to his players. and during the timeout coach JJ Daigneault did the talking and communicated with the defense.
But what is this lackluster stuff going on, dont any of these guys in the AHL or NHL want to be rangers and what to play hockey and want to at least try and win. Up in the big league its a different story. Under Renney, the rangers got to do whatever they wanted with a players coach and still left him out to dry. Now they have a firebrand who yells and yells to no avail and that doesnt work. what is the problem here. It would be sad to see coach Torts go, he wants to be here and shows he cares (just like renney) but i dont know if we can get rid of “almost” a whole team and start over. Can anyone put their finger on what they think the problem might be with our teams.
by madradd on Dec 31, 2009 12:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
why would anyone want to play for the rangers.
lets be honest here. if you werent raised a ranger fan and someone let you pick the team you wanted to play for, would u pick the rangers? i highly doubt it.
the players know what we know. this organization is not going anywhere until sather is gone.
so whats their motivation?
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just throwing it out there
get rid of or at least try to get rid of (even for a washing machine, i watched semi-pro last night) the following players; redden, rosival, boyle, brashear, christensen, drury, voros, kotalik. Play lisin to see what we have here, he does try hard higgins is trying and has the worst luck i dont know if it will ever change but at least give some more time to change things. I dont understand when some people come down on girardi, yes he isnt perfect but either is staal and i am tired of letting good young defensemen go. call up potter let the kids play it cant get much worse. how come other teams play there kids no matter what the outcome might be but the rangers cant? bring back p.a. and byers give weise a shot shake things up do something
by madradd on Dec 31, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i wish we did what the islanders did last year. terrible thing to say but i wish we did.
dubinsky gaborik prospal avery callahan anisimov lisin higgins byers dupont parenteau locke.. idc who else, but let the kids play.
staal girardi mdz gilroy sangs heikk potter
why cant we have that lineup? sure well suck for a bit but i promise u in 3-4 years well be a real contender
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i like this idea a lot.
even this year you can see the islanders maturing. they’re letting them play. look, the rangers are not going to win the cup this year. we have to face facts and eat the green.
by voice22 on Dec 31, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the only way this will ever change is if we stop going to ranger games.
the only thing that speaks to dolan is money.
if the games stop selling out, hell change something.
so lets boycott
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Dec 31, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like you're on board....
…with what I’ve been saying for quite a while.
;-)
by dbmaven on Dec 31, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i’ve been on board too for the whole season. i got the tickets last night as a gift, so its not like i could refuse…
by Rangerguy on Dec 31, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just thinking
i wonder if the senators want to part with chris neil?
by madradd on Dec 31, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i dont know about getting rid of sather lord knows he has made some bad moves but there are some good ones sprinkled in here and there. what we need is a series of checks and balances, someone to keep an eye on sather and stop him from the bad moves
by madradd on Dec 31, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Madison Square Garden, L.P. Office of the Chairman
There you go. Slats is effectively on the “Board” – and he only reports to Hank Ratner and Dolan.
So – who’s gonna stop him – when they haven’t for 10+ years??
by dbmaven on Dec 31, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark my words boys...
Been around the Rangers for over 40 years, I smell a rat and his name is Sather. He will trade any of the quality we have (and that isn’t much) for over the hill bums and will ruin this team for the next 5 years, and then and only then, he will pack it in. I really feel sorry for whoever takes over, they are doomed from the start to fail. Can’t wait for another “5 year plan” . Just don’t have any answers, this is one of the lowest points in watching the Rangers since 1967. I have zero interest in watching, reading and talking about this team, don’t know why I even post here- I guess to vent. Thanks for listening.
by brad_park on Dec 31, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Roster Moves
The Rangers have only two elite players, Gaborik and Lundqvist. Prospal is a journeyman who has resurrected his career by playing with Gaborik. Avery, Callihan and Dubinski are high energy guys (not skill guys) who could constitute one of the top grind lines in the NHL. The remaining players are either young guys who may eventually become stars or older guys who are way past their prime. Reconstituting the Rangers’ roster will be a real challenge, but needs to be done. Sather has crippled the team by choosing has beens such as Drury, Redden, Roszival, Kotalik and Brashear. He compounded the problem by grossly overpaying them. I doubt whether any GM in the NHL would want to take on the contracts of these poor performers. The Rangers as presently constituted are one of the least talented teams in the NHL. The combination of poor talent and poor motivation spells disaster. I’m afraid that the team’s deadwood may hamper the development of the younger players. If the older, better paid players don’t put out the effort, will the younger guys? I think that you need to get rid of the nonperformers any way that you can and play the guys who really want to play.
by snark38 on Dec 31, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what a beating
i have never in all my years watching rangers vs. flyers that they got beat up in every aspect of the game we need help the ship is sinking time to make a trade soon …
by lohaus#54 on Dec 31, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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