Larry Brooks: Rangers have no soul, no identity
In today's NY Post, Larry Brooks talks about the Rangers lacking a soul, and an identity.
Here is the link to Larry's article.
A few of the highlights:
There is no identity, no matter how hard John Tortorella attempts to stamp his own on this stoic group.
Other than Henrik Lundqvist, who has had a very good season but has been unable to elevate his game down the stretch, there isn't a big-money player here who has even come close to meeting that obligation.
Larry makes good points here, but I think this leads to bigger questions:
Where does the soul of your team come from? The first and most obvious choice is the Captain and his Alternates. Was there any question in the mid 90's that the heart and soul of the Rangers was Messier, Graves, and Leetch? Those three players were proud to wear the sweater, and demanded nothing less from those around them.
When Jaromir Jagr was a Ranger, how many times did he put the team on his back, and provide the lift that was needed? That's what a Captain does. In the time he was with the Rangers, Jagr made the Rangers relevant again, like Messier did in 1991 when he took the "C".
When the Captain steps on the ice, there should be a "presence" around him. When the Captain steps on the ice, you want to believe he is going to make something happen, to give the team the lift it needs when they are flat, or be a calming presence when things get hectic.
Now all of this is not meant to be a knock on Chris Drury. But when I look at him, I just don't see a "Captain". I don't see a guy who is going to step on the ice and go 15 rounds with the other teams heavyweight if the Rangers need a spark. I don't see a guy who is going to step on the ice, and will this team to win. It hasn't happened in almost two full seasons, I think it's safe to say it's not going to at this point. Chris Drury is a nice player, but to me he's not a "Captain".
Maybe its the pressure of playing in NY, he certainly wouldn't be the first to feel it.
There is hope for the future though. Young players like Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky, and Marc Staal strike me as guys capable of giving this team a true identity in the years to come.
Ok, so moving on, Larry then talks about Sean Avery:
Excuse me, but Milan Lucic sticks out his leg and injures a defenseless Nik Antropov by going knee-on-knee midway through the second period on Saturday, and it's Sean Avery who should be suspended for kind of stupidly using his stick to tap Tim Thomas on the back of his helmet during a TV timeout?
The absence of context is the crux of the issue here, just as always. Headhunters such as Chris Pronger and Gary Roberts, who historically injure opponents, are routinely deified, notably by the sanctimonious brigade north of the border, but Avery, who has never hurt anyone but himself, must be banned for the good of the sport?
For all his faults, I'd still rather have Avery than not. I think it's funny how hated he is around the league, and how even most Ranger fans will say, "Well he's a jackass, but I'm sure glad he's our jackass"
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For all his faults, I’d still rather have Avery than not. I think it’s funny how hated he is around the league, and how even most Ranger fans will say, “Well he’s a jackass, but I’m sure glad he’s our jackass”
i couldnt find this to be more true.
Remember in the movie slapshot, when Reggie Dunlop wants to win the game so bad he skates up to the Goalie and starts screaming about his wife is a lesbian…. thats all sean avery is doing, whats so wrong with that?
He drives people up the wall with his antics and its AMAZING… mainly because he does it to the other teams. I hated him before he was a ranger, but now i love how he drives other teams off their game by doing crazy stuff like that.
the nhl should villanize him, but make it something to market positively. like how they market the rivalries and superstars… they should advertise bad boy sean avery or whatever. i dunno. Dont take him out of the game cause he is crazy… crazy is good… not like chris simon crazy. but obviously i think you guys get what im going for.
by ImaMoose on Apr 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Hanrahan!
LOL, thats a great scene in the movie
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 6, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not soul or Identity
This is a poorly constructed team. It’s not that Drury is a bad captain, it’s that he is a slightly above average offensive player who is being paid to be a top tier offensive player. Drury is doing about what his career stats suggest he should be doing, but his salary and the expectations that come with it make him seem like a failure. The same is true of Gomez. He averages 16 goals a season and he has 16 goals. But because he was so overpaid, everyone expected him to do play at a level that is beyond him.
The Rangers are performing at about the level that their statistical history suggests they should be performing at. As long as the core of this team remains the same (and contractually it is pretty much guaranteed to) this is the type of performance we can expect for the next few years.
by Reg Dunlop on Apr 6, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's nothing against Drury
He’s pretty much on par with his career avgs, like you said, I just don’t see the take charge attitude from him. I’ve got nothing against him really, but not everyone is cut out to be Captain
And yes, I agree, this is a poorly constructed team.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 6, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering when you would find your way over here Reg.
The Rangers need the dynamic winger for this team, the guy who can score 40+ goals a year. I think Naslund and Gomez should be moved to make way for said player (Gaborik?)
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 6, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the board Reg
Hope you will stick around. Naturally, I love your screen name, and I am sure you saw my Hanrahan reference above.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had a conversation about Gaborik when the Rangers played the Wild
If they could find a way to clear the cap space, he would be a nice fit.
Honestly, if you ask me right now, I’d rather they find a way to move Drury than Gomez. And Naslund, and Redden, and Rozsival.
Asking too much?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 7:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that the problem with Gomez and Drury is that the Rangers paid superstar money for non superstar players. I like Drury better simply because he seems to have a better scoring touch then Gomez, honestly if they got rid of either or in the off season I wouldn’t care which it is. Dumping Redden and Rozsival should be no-brainers.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 7, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way too much
I don’t see how they move those guys given the contracts they have. Even if they were to throw money into a deal, another team would still have to commit cap space. They might be able to move Naslund because he only has one year on his contract, but the others are here for a while.
by Reg Dunlop on Apr 7, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been saying Drury was a badpick for captain before he was picked for captain. The Rangers need a cult of personality to lead them, he isn’t one.
I have a blog too! www.scottyhockey.com
Let's Go Rangers!
by Scotty Hockey on Apr 7, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice Living Color reference BTW
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I’m sorry, a “cult of personality”? Why do the Rangers need one if the rest of the NHL doesn’t? I can’t get over this mentality that’s existed since the Messier era that the Rangers have to have THE CAPTAIN and that THE CAPTAIN needs to be some larger-than-life, Paul Bunyanesque figure in order for the Rangers to succeed. Those expectations took a toll on Leetch after Messier left and probably also burdened Jagr by trying to turn him into something he’s not, and the expectations get higher and higher each time they fawn over THE CAPTAIN, NUMBER ELEVEN, MARK MESSIER at every event that brings Rangers alumni together at MSG.
Simply put, they’re setting themselves up for failure by having this attitude that there needs to be THE CAPTAIN who’s going to be the driving force of the team game-in and game-out. There just aren’t more than a handful of guys in the league at any given time who could be that type of player and if you have the attitude, as a franchise, that you need that kind of driving force to succeed then you’re hamstringing yourself from the get-go. Not only that, you’re building a ready-made excuse into your team construction – I mean, here we are right now explaining away a lack of finishing talent and power play chemistry by saying the team lacks a leader. I just don’t buy it.
by JoshNY on Apr 7, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying Drury has to be Messier
I don’t think anyone is, its an unfair comparison. But like I said in my original post, I think your Captain has to have a “presence” on the ice. I don’t get that from Drury.
However, I’m enjoying the debate, good discussion here guys.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with Drury's "presence"
I have a problem with the fact that he’s paid to be a top-line player who contributes on the power play and he’s better suited to being a two-way third-line center who kills penalties. And I have a problem with journalists like Brooks who use excuses like “lack of team personality” because they’re too lazy to look into the more important things that are wrong with the team.
by JoshNY on Apr 7, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the problem with fixing the Rangers.....
Obviously, they have problems. Big contracts to guys who don’t deserve them, and overall its a poorly constructed team.
But the guy that has to fix it is more than likely going to be the guy that got them in this mess in the first place.
It’s like the government giving all this bailout money to the people who screwed up the economy in the first place.
Not to get all political, but it seems like a good analogy.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sather has done a very good job of getting some talented youth in the system. I remember when Smith was in charge it was a rarity that a good young player actually made it to NY, or was picked at all. Sather has gotten some good young guys here and he needs to be recognized for that. I would have no problem keeping him in place, but somebody needs to smack him upside his head the next time he tries to spend a ton of cash on a defenseman.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 7, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sather
He has done a better job of getting young guys in, but for the most part they are role players. Right now I don’t see an impact forward on the horizon. The strength of this organization going forward is going to be goaltending and defense. (Girardi, Mara, Staal, Potter, Sanguinetti, Sauer, and Redden) To his credit, these are all Sather guys. The problem is that he brought in a coach who wants to play a wide open, attacking style that runs counter to the strength of the team. And he’s doing it to try to jump start a mediocre offense that he spent way to much money for.
by Reg Dunlop on Apr 7, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"... and Redden)"
That was a joke, right? Just making sure my sarcasm detector is calibrated.
by JoshNY on Apr 7, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a contractually obligated inclusion
Your detector is functioning. That’s why I put him last. But, he is under contract for five (six?) more years so, like it or not, he is going to be here.
by Reg Dunlop on Apr 7, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reg as far as the young guys go
when you say “impact” forward, are you talking about in Hartford?
If you are talking about the youth in general, I think Callahan will make an impact, I think John Tortorella has helped turn his game around.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to think Anisimov has the potential to be an impact player
Hockeysfuture rates him our best prospect, ahead of Sangs and DZ
by JoshNY on Apr 7, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anisimov
Just an amendment to my comment about him below. He was very young in the few games he played in the Russian pro league. So I don’t know how much to read into that as a measure of his ability.
by Reg Dunlop on Apr 7, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hartford and below
Callahan has shown more offensive prowess this year and I think Dubinsky can become a 20 goal scorer, but after that it gets a little sketchy.
Brodie Dupont and Tom Pyatt haven’t really come close to putting up their Junior numbers at Hartford. Anisimov had a good year but he didn’t seem to be a big time goal scorer in Russia. He is still young though. Stepan, Hagelin, and Campbell have been decent but not outstanding in college. Grachev is intriguing. He put 40 goals in the OHL this year.
It frustrates me that Greg Moore hasn’t been given more of a chance. He was a better player at Maine than Dustin Penner with a similar style and build. He is the type of power forward that can score 20 goals just by playing around the net.
by Reg Dunlop on Apr 7, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome analysis Reg
I admit I haven’t been able to keep up with what is going on in Hartford
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