Is Martin St. Louis a Good Option?
by John Merrigan on May 1, 2009 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintJohn Tortorella discovered he had no go-to guys he believed he could go to, take it to the bank that the coach's first postseason order of business will be to work with GM Glen Sather to find the way to get Martin St. Louis out of Tampa Bay.
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go with youth
last seasons off season started well with getting nik zherdev. i didnt like giving up fedor but thats life. you gotta give something to get something.
but zherdev dissapeared after the first few weeks. so bust.
redden, rozsival = headache. BUST.
Naslund… come on, BUST.
what was sather thinking ?? apparently its impossible to resurrect a career in new york. what makes you think naslund and redden were going to? rozi i didnt mind signing him… just signing Both redden and rozi for those ridiculous amounts when mark streit got like 4.5 and is sick offensively.
i almost could guarantee that if the rangers had streit this season, they would have scored a ton more goals.
its simple really. the guy is a nasty powerplay qb, has a bomb for a shot, and makes tricky passes.
yes he is inept a bit defensively… but hes better than redden!
its a thorn in my side when i see that guy on the islanders, and i have to watch wade redden bumble around on the rangers.
sather has to go.
the rangers should just go with a complete over haul. Go with youth. the penguins and caps have shown you need to suck for a few years to be good. look out for the islanders if they get their heads out their own asses. if they dont screw up this draft somehow theyll be good in like 2 years.
“they’ll be good in like 2 years”, and in Kansas City
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 1, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Forget St. Louis
Great player, but hes 34 years old. If you are going to give away that kind of talent give it for someone younger.
Oh by the way Staal and Grachev are 100% untouchable!
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Looking at the deal simply as being from New York originally, having seen the Rangers and what they do and knowing the Lightning the way I do — this would be a mistake.
Whatever price the Rangers have to give up to pay for Marty’s services would end up vaulting his expectations to levels that are comparable to some fo the new signings in the Bronx who shall remain nameless. Between that and the media pressure cooker, could St. Louis ever live up to expectations in the Big Apple?
And how can the Rangers afford to overpay for St. Louis – which should be the only way that gets him away from TB (sidenote: with Brian Lawton’s track record as GM in Tampa, it may take less)? As was said above, Staal should be untouchable among other top flight talent for the Rangers.
There’s a possible reward with obtaining St. Louis in victories and scoring touch (that and his leadership skills), but again — how can he ever live up to the expectations that he would have if dealt from TB (where not only did he win the cup but the Hart trophy as well) to the Rangers? I’m not saying he can’t, but with the price that has to be paid in order to get him — I’m saying it’s not likely that he’ll reach the vaulted expectations that come with being a big-ticket acquisition.
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I agree it wouldnt make any sense. If the Rangers are going to give up that type of money then they need to give it up for a younger scoring talent … ohhh I dont know … Kovalchuck?
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by Joe Fortunato on May 1, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ilya was Ovechkin before there was Ovechkin
He’s stuck in that limbo that is known as Atlanta, where the ownership upheaval keeps the team from going anywhere and keeps Don Waddel employed. I don’t know if Kovi and Torts would work well together though — he’d have to be past his days of floating or John would ride his ass all the way out of town. That actually endears me to Tortorella — he had that struggle with Lecavalier and Vinny was almost traded to solve the issues. Almost. Rick Dudley left the Lightning after that, and Torts and Lecavalier (and Marty, lets not forget this thread is about Marty ;) ) went on to win the Cup two seasons later.
But Ilya would be a much more sound investment – long term – than Marty. Marty will give everything he has, but that’ll never be enough to compensate for the cost of acquisition.
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Yea
Kovalchuck is the only player Id want this offseason if the Rangers are gonna make moves.
I would hate to do it, but Callahan and Korpikowski would at least be a start there, but Kovalchuck is needed and would be great in NY.
as I said in one of the threads yesterday, unfortunately, this is a trade the Rangers love to make:
Marcel Dionne, Bernie Nichols, Luc Robitaille, Eric Lindros, Pavel Bure
If he is a “Torts guy” though, that could go a long way in any deal getting done. I think Torts is dying to remake this team.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
It should be made into his team too. This current roster doesnt fit his style at all. But they can’t sacrifice the future.
by John Merrigan on May 1, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Pass
He’s 34. His production will likely continue to decline. Plus, he has played with Lecavlier, Richards, and now Ryan Malone and Steve Stamkos. The Rangers don’t have anyone of that caliber to put him with, so in all likelihood, his rate of production would just decline even faster.
his numbers havent really declined.
06-07 102 pts
07-08 83 pts
08-09 80 pts (on a really bad team)
even then though, for the price and at this point in his career.
pass
by John Merrigan on May 1, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
If Sather trades some of our good young players I’m gonna flip. He is 34 and Sather has a knack for acquiring players on the cusp of a colossal decline. Just the notion of this trade makes me nauseous. Hopefully Sather’s previous failures will leave the Rangers with insufficient cap room for St. Louis; that can be the silver lining for the whole “Wade Redden debacle.”
Staal and Grachev
Should be untouchable. But are you willing to give away Dubinsky or Callahan for him? I dont think so.
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ur forgetting iilya kovuchuck is a restricted free agent this year so he would nrrd to opt out of his current contract and were also forgetting marian gaborik the guys is a pure scorer he played 15 games and still managed to score 11 goals with that time i say kavolchuck go for him and marian gaborik is our back up plan
Kovalchuk still has one year left on his contract with ATL. If he’s not re-signed Waddel will probably move him at the deadline.
The market for Marian Gaborik is going to be interesting. He’s a pure scorer but is plagued with injuries. I don’t see him as a real option for the Rangers.
by John Merrigan on May 1, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I got a story about this going up soon so stick on it
I have an inside source
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by Joe Fortunato on May 1, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
kovulchuck and gaborik
kovalchuck has 1 year left but its a opt out year for him smarty so he can leave right now if he wants to and marian is also free agent so both are great but i would pick kovulchuck make a trade or wait until he opts out in the summeer and make a deal thats that no debating that
Sather works MAGIC?
Perhaps he can return to Edmonton or even better disappear!!
To return to Edmonton
…would be to disappear. I mean, really, who goes to Edmonton? ;)
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kovulchuck and gaborik
kovalchuck has 1 year left but its a opt out year for him smarty so he can leave right now if he wants to and marian is also free agent so both are great but i would pick kovulchuck make a trade or wait until he opts out in the summeer and make a deal thats that no debating that
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