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Scouting the Free Agents: The Sedin Twins

Ah the allure of Swedish twins, even hockey can't keep itself away. Nothing but questions are surrounding Daniel and Henrik Sedin before they hit the free agent market this July. The biggest question is: will they sign together or will they part ways for the first time in their career?

In 1999 Vancouver used their 2nd and 3rd overall picks to take the twins, the first time twins had ever been drafted back to back in NHL history. Now the 28 year old wingers are hot topics for this year's free agency.

Rumors have been swirling since the start of the year-that the twins will only sign together. (More than likely staying with the Nucks.) That could be a scary concept for two guys who might be able to command 6.5-7.5 million dollars each. I mean really now, what team has 13-15 million dollars in cap room for only two players right now; especially with the cap regressing next year? There are also rumors swirling that the twins would be willing to take a pay cut in order to stay together.

So where do you take the risk if you had to choose one over the other? The two are quite obviously fantastic hockey players with each other but how would they do on their own? They complement each other nicely but would a new team without their twin brother suit them?

Henrik, more of the feeder, finished this season with 22 goals and 60 assists for 82 points. In his career he has 109 goals 351 assists for 460 points in 646 games.  It should be noted that this was the first season Henrik ever amassed more than 20 goals, his previous season high was 18. It should also be noted that he has posted 57, 71, 61 and 60 assists his last 4 years. In this year's playoffs he had 4 goals and 6 assists for 10 points in 10 games. But aside from this year's playoffs Henrik is not a playoff performer. Excluding this year's totals he only has 20 points in 43 games.

Daniel, the goal scorer of the two, finished this season with 31 goals and 51 assists for 82 points. In his career he has 179 goals and 283 assists for 462 points in 642 games. This year in the playoffs he had 4 goals and 6 assists for 10 points in 10 games. But other than that playoff blip he also has had terrible post seasons. Not counting this year's totals he only has 18 points in 43 games. Not good.

Together this year the two combined for 53 goals and 111 assists for 164 points.

So go ahead and play GM again. In my opinion Daniel is the most well rounded of the two, but again are you going to take the risk of signing one without the other? Would you, as a GM, be willing to sign both of them to big contracts? What would be your limits and why? Or would you just take a pass on both of them? Could the Rangers even afford both? Have at it!

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It would be nice to think about, but I have a feeling these two are a creepy twin package deal, and the Rangers won’t be able to come close to offering them what they will be asking for.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 17, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They Have Said...

That they want identical contracts on the same team. Their market value could be around 8 million, but they are trying to give Vancouver the hometown discount of 7. We will see.

by Rob Luker on May 17, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gave my company a hometown discount of 7 million too.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 17, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At some point the whole identical thing just gets weird. I remember at the draft they said that they wanted to be on the same team and they wouldn’t sign with two different organizations, which is why Vancouver traded for the 3rd pick so they would have two back-to-back picks.

The desire to be identical in every way and not being able to part from each other is just plain creepy and is reason enough to stay away from them. NY would eat these two identical bozos alive.

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by sireric on May 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They’re going to be a packaged deal. Two for the price of two.

I highly doubt that they’ll sign anywhere separately. Few teams are going to have the cap room, the Maple Leafs might be a possibility. Burke pulled off some magic back in the day to draft them 2 and 3 in the draft. He’s always been a big fan of them.

I think they re-sign with the Canucks though.

by Ryan McFadden on May 17, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

7 each? lets examine this....

mats sundin’s 8 million cap hit could disappear if he retires, but i don’t think that will happen. if you’re vancouver, do you resign sundin? (i know i wouldn’t). i think right now the twins are the face of the franchise (luongo actually is the face, but he’s not going to win them a cup as we saw this year) and they would do whatever it take to keep them.

Kyle Wellwood is an RFA and he deserves a new contract just as much as Dubi and Callahan deserve one in NY, he’s been very impressive since toronto gave him up (why did the leafs give him up again? oh that’s right, the leafs…) and played a big part in them making it to game 6 against the surging hawks.

Mattias Ohlund is a UFA this year and demitra will be unrestricted in 2011.

all in all it looks like they can just squeeze in $14mil assuming wellwood gets a nice raise and mats goes to another canadian team (maybe the oilers will take him what do they have to lose)

there’s alot they can do, but i think the twins staying in van is a top priority for ’nucks management this summer.

i’ll bet my entire credit card debt that they stay.

i wouldn’t bring them to NY for $14 million. we don’t have the cash and we’ll hurt the franchise if we make room for it

by #17ToTheRafters on May 17, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing better than a bet where you have nothing to lose, LOL

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think they’re going to get 7 million a year. after the MLB free agency period, it is very very unlikely that teams are going to be shelling out too many big contracts. everybody who is a free agent this year is probably going to make less money now than they would have last summer. teams are going to be weary of the cap following next season and with the economy they way it is, i wouldn’t be surprised to see the twins go for 5 or 6 a year.

by Ryan McFadden on May 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless the Sedins sign with the Yankees of course, the economy does not exist in the Bronx.

On a serious note, it will be interesting to see how the economic times effect NHL free agency this season.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 17, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it doesn’t exist in queens either

by Ryan McFadden on May 17, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sidenote, I have Jose Reyes on my fantasy team but I’m shopping him around my league for 80 cents on the dollar because he’s just a spectacular douche.

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by KingHenrik on May 18, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say they might even go as low a 6 million per year each

so long as it was with Vancouver. I just dont think they will sign anywhere else.

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by Joe Fortunato on May 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

they both seem to be exactly what the Rangers need, speed and puck control guys.

If this was 2 seasons ago….I think they’d be a much better get than Gomez and Drury….

But it aint gonna happen, unless of course there is a sign and trade for Gomez and Drury.

by FreeBradshaw on May 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sedins

please pass on these two, they are weak. 14 million for essentially one player? No! Not what the Rangers need.

by Thomas B on May 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same Player..Different Name

Henrik is already on the Rangers in the form of Scott Gomez. A pass first center who chips in the 16-20 goals a season. Another 7 mil for the same player..don’t need it. And since they want to stay together Daniel is out.

by nomore1940 on May 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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