NHL News: Free Agency Day One Open Thread (Part 2)
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT
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Habs sign Hal Gill
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just going to say that
2 yrs 4.5 total
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sather's threatening to cash in all the brownie points from the Gomez dump.
I just want this fact near the top of the thread, to show how brilliant/preposterous an observation it is later on.
by MatthewA on Jul 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dont be surprised
When Sather keeps trying for Heatley, which ends up falling through, Cammy and Gabby are gone by the time Sather stops talking to OTT and all thats left is Saku Koivu, yay
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or sather overpays kessel
and gives up lots of draft picks
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats wrong with kessel? provided its a fair deal
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for Phil Kessel?
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeet…i’ll take him
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i forget the comp
oh that’s right larry brooks was bitching about it the other day…it is a 1, 2, 3 but we dont have a 3 now cause of the Boyle trade.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neil for 4 years
prepare for the worst. Neil won’t turn this down.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright boys, my work day is over, time to head home, be back with you in about an hour or so.
Jim
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
so neil, brashear, and avery…why Sather? why?
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our team getting tougher
I like that they are making our team alot stronger but im not liking the deals
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brashear was enough
to make our team tougher/stronger
We already have D men that don’t really take any crap, however, I agree they did/do need ppl who will clear out the net, we didnt really ever push back last yr
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brashear
Neil, Boyle?
4th Line? Christ that’s some ass whoppin
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and by the way, it was 5 minutes after I left work yesterday that the Gomez trade went down, I actually had to fire up my laptop in the car and post the story. Thank God for mobile broadband. So who knows, maybe history will repeat itself, catch you in a little while
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets just make sure we are clear on this
all the teams that were better than us last year have continued to improve and we have not done anything…
Can anyone say 11th place finish?
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind a high first round pick.
(dont give up… dont give up)
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Hall???
well if this is our team then at least we will get a lottery pick
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
that’s sather’s master plan…tank the year to get Hall. he has seen the pens do it to get Crosby, Malkin, Fleury and Staal
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
by then Grachev, MDZ, Sanguinetti, McDonagh maybe even Stepan should be ready to play.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HaHa
I like that, looking towards next season…at least we’ll get a high pick
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We should just trade
to get all the Staals and we’ll be set
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they are signing Gaborik
and they just need an offensive line to block for him?
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any chance..
The Rangers are trying to package a trade for Kovalchuk? Or does that not make any sense?
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it would make sense
but what would we have to give up? ATL sucks and they want youth, they are def gonna want dub and/or cally and maybe a young D like Sangs
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Zherdev, Roszival, maybe a pick and a d-prospect?
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is gonna be real dumb....
but who is this boyle youre all speaking of? what did i miss? thought that was part of the gomez deal but i guess not. fill me in here.
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
traded for him
gave up a 3rd round pick next year to LA.
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look...
I really am all for getting Brashear AND Neil…i do like the toughness, which was lacking seriously last season…
I’m all for it AS LONG AS the Rangers get goal scorers too. Ill take the two tough guys as long as we can get Cammy and maybe another guy who can contribute
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s about speed, too. The Rangers lacked overall team speed.
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and traded one of there fastest players
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least they drafted a guy who supposedly can fly
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oil
im pretty sure tsn just reported that it will be edmonton for heatley
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fine, let him go
Let him stay in America’s Hat
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youth
I think the Rangers NEED to bring up at least two new guys from their system and i’m looking at Gilroy and possibly Anisimov
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the thinking..
Torts has told Sather that the Rangers are soft, and has been talking about all our young guys.
Sather is getting tough guys, but does he really think all our young guys are NHL ready, and good enough to possibly be 2nd line? This could be why Sather isn’t trying to sign any marquee players.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but
Chris Neil? Brashear? and a trade for Brian Boyle?
Everyone knows who Brashear is. Chris Neil = Taller Sean Avery – Hockey skill
And Boyle runs about 6"7 250.
What the FUCK are we doing with this?
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEIL
the offer is 4 years at 2.2 mil A YEAR!
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just announced on nhl network’s coverage of “nhl on tsn”.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of a surprise
david koci signs with avalanche.
was afraid sather was looking at him as well, but not i can rest easy…
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's gonna want to play the Rangers
They are gonna kick the shit out of everyone. Not on the scoreboard tho.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
were gonna lose
but lose with dignity and strength lol
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t classify Brashear as having dignity lol
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boyle
we should try to throw him into a package deal
We are the freakin Johnstown Chiefs right now
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McKenzie on TSN is reporting that Dubinsky is off the table for Heatley
i still dont think Heatley is coming especially with the EDM or bust proclamations but this is new news to me at least
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
minnesota offers cammy multi year deal
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
Sather is thinking we have good enough D and a good enough G that we can win every game 2-1 and with our new found toughness, we’ll be even better at winning those 2-1 games. However, I don’t agree and I think we need a 35+ goal scorer. I dont think Dub and Cally are good enough to carry us
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And to think...
…the Rangers just fired the perfect coach for a defense-first system.
by MatthewA on Jul 1, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers Are Out of Heatley
According to Eklund:
“The Rangers unwilingness to trade Dubinsky in the deal and the dissatisfaction with what was perceived as a bit of “dirty poker” last night has caused them to pull out of Heatley talks. The Wild however…may be getting in."
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so eklund took the story from mckenzie added in some BS and called it his
nothing new there
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wild Replaced Rangers
Eklund: Rangers are out, Wild are in.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i meant with eklunds tactics not the story
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, atleast we don’t need to be holding our breaths over this afffair.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is a thought that hasnt been mentioned yet
Any chance that bringing in neil means torts cans Avery?
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He better not
Avery generates offense and creates energy, we are going to NEED him if this Free agency blunder keeps up
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After all the Rangers went through to bring Avery back...
…I can’t imagine they’d just dump him now. It’d be an epic PR disaster.
by MatthewA on Jul 1, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cammy to habs
uhhh puck daddy live chat has cammy finalizing with the habs….
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also reporting that the wild have offered to Havlat
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit… also reporting that gonchar signs with avs!
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If these two happen
The rangers are done and we are terrible. no playoffs for sure
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait.. havlat was wrong name. it was a multi year deal for cammy from the wild
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea pagnotta screwed up and put havlat in for cammy but cammy is apparently a hab
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep. said to be finalizing now…. and yes leetch. gonchar to the AVS
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tough for him to sign there
considering he has a contract with pittsburgh
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so cammy will be hooking up with gomer
but in MTL
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well look on the bright side
At least we’ll win 23 games this year and lead the league in penalty minutes…yay
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cammy
Cammalleri will get 5 year, $30 mill deal, finalized… not yet confirmed.
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahah
im not even upset anymore, now i just think its funny how bad we are gonna be
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well...
at least this year we wont have to sit on the edge of our seats in the playoffs…we can just watch with delight and enjoy it
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kubina
may have heard a rumor that Kubina also got moved to the habs
by BK! on Jul 1, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kubina’s deal with the thrashers I thought was finalized.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im still waiting
to hear about gonchar who has a contract in pitt signing with the avs
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets at least dump redden and rozi
so we have millions next year and hope nash and kovalchuck dont sign extentions
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!!!
Like I said I didn’t want gomez moved…all he needs is someone to pass to and boom there it is
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
poor Kubina
Poor anyone who plays in ATL
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ON TOP OF IT ALL
Sather has yet to sign ANY of our restricted free agents.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeap it's done for Cammy
Habs sign Cammalleri 5-years, $30 million And Leafs trade Kubina to Thrashers for Exelby
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so fragile gabby and havlat are what's left?
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you know what this means
gionta is coming
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, and?
PS-Habs fans are gonna LOVE Gomez now and he’s gonna have a career yr…90 pts
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only sather could waste such a good trade this badly
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously.
it was such a good trade as far as saving cap space, and we end up doing nothing with it. We sign Neil and Brashear, seriously Slats?
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone think that with all the money Slather didn't spend today, the Rangers will pass the savings on to us with lower ticket prices?
by MatthewA on Jul 1, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not with the Garden getting renovated…..
by stonecoldcory on Jul 1, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see this in the kubina trade recap
“The trade with will save Toronto roughly $2 mil in cap space for future moves, including a strong offer that the Maple Leafs have made to sign unrestricted free agent Mike Komisarek.”
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
toronto is not gonna be pushed around this season
Orr, Komisarek and possibly Neil….thats a tough team
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have a feeling this is going to get worse
not only are we not getting the top guys but i think sather will then overpay worse guys…ie Gionta, Tanguay, Neil, Scuderi
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT IS GOING ON?>!?!?!
Are we really supposed to be satisfied with only signing Brashear so far?
The Heatley deal fell threw, so WTF is Sather waiting for?! WE HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW this FA period or from freeing up space and getting rid of Gomez…WTF is going on?!
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Canadian teams are really getting a whole shit ton better
just look at all there signings….J-Bo, Komisarek, Cammy, the Sedins…nuts lol
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Sather eventually is going to panic and we are going to give a big, long contract to someone who doesn’t deserve it
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Sather might have to take him back
no one else knows how to score goals on this team
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wont do that one out of pride
more likely one of the ones i mentioned
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sather better have a plan to fall back on. He made it clear the gomez move gave up lots of cap room to survey our options!
now what?
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i believe the exact phrase was "lots of options"
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also didn't identify the three calls he fielded after dealing Gomez.
It was two telemarketers and a wrong number.
by MatthewA on Jul 1, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hate so say it
but it looks like its game over boys, perhaps next years FA pool will be better suited for us.
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rick nash is the super star in that pool
but i see him staying in Columbus
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RFA's next year
Toews
Kane
Bobby Ryan
Lucic
Blake Wheeler
Derrek Brassard
Loui Eriksson
Backstrom
Semin
Setoguchi
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you have to look at it
that the team has a bunch of
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...
cap room so hopefully that will either amount to a deal later on or maybe during the season.
Hopefulyl it doesn’t mean Antropov.
Maybe it means that they will indeed bring up the kids and roll with it.
They still will be average at least with Henrik and the D being similar, so the season is not lost.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless dubi and cally and zherdev take huge steps forward
we are in a lot of trouble.
Higgins replaces naslund…dubi now has to step up to replace gomer and cally has to go from a 40 to 60 pt scorer and AA has to step in and fill dubi’s role.
zherdev needs to find it consistently and give them 35G and 30 assists.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any Other options
Are there any other options out there?
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no one move will make this team be good next year
so i would rather not overspend on what is left
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neil
Still have seen nothing supporting Neil being signed.
by Dekim19 on Jul 1, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is not signed yet
only reports we are the only team that went 4 years at 2.2 per
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Sportsnet.ca
Now, Sportsnet has learned that Mike Cammalleri has signed with the Montreal Canadiens for five years, $30 million. Martin Havlat is still out there, as is Marian Gaborik. But just in case New York GM Glen Sather doesn’t cash in, he’ll keep Heatley on the backburner until later this evening.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sather will get desperate
we end up losing dubi or cally for heatley. or pay kessel morw the gomer had. didnt the rangers draft kessel?
FIRE SATHER FIRE SATHER
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im sure Sather has a plan
I will hold my judgement until the end of this week at least.
Anything can happen. Trades, signings, etc.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patience grasshoppers! everyone should try not to overact and judge how good or how bad the team will be just before the puck drops, not half way into the first day of free agency.
No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.
by sireric on Jul 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sullivan back to nash
antro talking to ATL
gionta talking to Mon
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this shows how bad the US economy is
all the players are fleeing to canada…lol.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about Petr Sykora as a cheap solution at wing
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sign Tanguay too
Put Tanguay and Sykora on a line centered by Dubinsky.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since he worked out for us last time
Sykora is a poor mans nedved
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tanguay is precisely the kind of guy sather will overpay
probably give him like 5 mil a year.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well thats too much for Alex Tanguay
I would give him a contract arond 4-4.5. nothing over that. But I would be willing to take a shot on Tanguay.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No sniper
With tanguay we are back to the same team as last year. no sniper to score 30 plus goals
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So who is on the Rangers?
with nobody signed. No betts, no freddy, cally and dubi not signed, not pick ups other the a a taller mike tyson on skates, who will skate for the rangers this season?
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets get Gordie Howe out of retirement
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I think you guys are hitting the panic button way too soon.
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed 1000%
No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.
by sireric on Jul 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not sure if I can wait a week to find out if this team really did get worse or not…
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Breaking news
Sather contacted the canadians asking for gomez back because he screwed up and now doesnt need the cap space
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You really didn’t expect Slats to go and get Hossa or the Sedins right out of the gate did ya
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i didnt expect him to waste 3.6 mil
on brashear and neil either
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF With this garbage Neil
Im pusing the panic button right now.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope so
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
but with the crop of free agents out there, and who Sather has been targeting, i think there is a justified reason for panic.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense
Gaborik is still there. No one is gonna rush and get him cause of his last season. But he’ll be worth the risk cause he’s still a damn good player. He’ll prob. get him cheap. Who the hell is neil
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cheap is not happening
the only hope on gaborik is short term
Chris Neil the Ottawa cross b/w Orr and Avery
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting rid of Gomez
Was a good start to this FA. He’s planning something. The Heatly deal didn’t fall through he just didn’t pull of the trade yet. Give a day or two.
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The flurry of Sather activity on the first day of free agency in both of the last two years was counterproductive.
by whiskybravo on Jul 1, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomez is good
but was a bad cog in the rangers machine. He didn’t fit right on the team. Plus i was never that happy about when they signed him. I hate the Devils. And i hated when they had Holik for a little bit
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus
I think theres hope to get rid of Redden.
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heatley is tool at this point
640 PM: Update on Heatley… no decision yet, he’s still reviewing things with his agents. And no timeline on decision, but will come tonight.
Seriously he has known for about 20 hrs of this trade wtf could he still be thinking about either way.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he wants to
go to a NY team that has some chance at a cup.
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wade "fluffer nutter" redden was one half of the only defensice pairing that was able to play some d in the playoffs
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fluffer nutters are good
Redden…..no
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If heatly comes to the rangers
he’ll be there goal scoring key to the cup
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
exacltly
I love how NY fans of any sport push that panic button way too soon.
As far as I see, Heatley isn’t in Edmonton yet.
Also its really not like the guy is gonna play in Ottawa this season so he WILL be traded.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers refuse to trade Dubinsky to Ottawa
therefore, deal falls through, Rangers are not getting Heatley.
that is, unless they are willing to make a deal not involving Duby.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say...
Give him one more season to prove himself and see how it goes. At tis point next season he still sucks then we should pull a “Gomez”
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gaborik
Source: Agent Ron Salcer asking today for 10-year, $75 million deal for Gaborik
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't find
anything on the rangers signing neil
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
once again hasnt happened yet
Secnod Update 5:15: Dreger says the offer is 2.2 million per year for four years but that Edmonton and Toronto both have offers of three years out to Neil also.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you better be listening to the radio show tonight
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was directed at Avery God
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey sorry for that guys
I banned that asshole.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what was his username?
I Just signed back on
by b4mv01 on Jul 1, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cookie monster something or other
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jerk lol
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea these are hockey boards not halo2 forums
by John Mjr on Jul 1, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this will piss off the room
Cammalleri said the Habs acquisition of Gomez played a factor in his decision
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just read that too haha. Once again Habs Fans, you’re welcome.
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, Gainey told him to say that
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be super if Slats addressed the scoring issue right about now.
Really, it would be super.
by Dave (BSB) on Jul 1, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well the best scorer out there want 10/75
the question is will that be the number of games he would play in those 10 years
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaborik wants 10/75? Is he nuts? He wants more than Hossa?
by Dave (BSB) on Jul 1, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Jim gotta go. My predictions-Rangers trade for Heatly, sign gaborik and then they kill redden using Brashears gigantic helmet and then they hang Brash. Oh my!
by AveryGod on Jul 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Neil will make his decision soon. Between Rangers, Leafs and Oilers. -Dreger
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yippie!!! Chris Neil on Broadway
Stay in Canada Neil.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quick pull the offer
not 4 yrs 2.2 mil for this dude
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TSN Article on Neil
“Chris Neil is contemplating three solid offers and will make his decision shortly.
The New York Rangers offered a four year deal to Neil, averaging $2.3 million per season, while the Edmonton Oilers and Toronto Maple Leafs have both tabled three year offers to the Toronto native.
Sources say while the Rangers have made the most substantial bid, the veteran forward is weighing the appeal of staying in Canada which is making his decision more difficult.
Earlier in the week, Neil reportedly turned down the Senators’ offer of $1.7-million per year.
Neil, 30, tied a career-low with ten points and set a career-low with a minus-13 in 60 games last season.
The 6-foot-1, 214-pound right winger can still mix it up, however, getting in 14 fights last season; his highest total since 2002-2003. "
Stick with the appeal of Canada
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
STAY IN CANADA
You Bum
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
farewell. I think i’ll try relax for 2 hours or so. Here is to hoping Sather knows best! (cheers)
by rmc235 on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright guys, going to get ready for the show, hope you guys will check it out and call in
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not reading through 500+ posts on both FA threads
So could someone just fill me in on who we’ve signed since Brashear?
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NOONE there is a rumor that Neil has an offer
by arf5325 on Jul 1, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any rumors floating around any other players?
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone down with Rozi and a pick for Marleau?
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with a young team
I, for one, find this long-sighted approach refreshing
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you cant sign the brashears and go after the neils of the world and then claim you want to be young and take the long view
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those players are short, low-money investments
aka the opposite of all the shitty contracts we’ve given out in the past
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
short? 2 years for a 37 year old brashear and 4 years for Neil is Short?
and 3.6 million for these goons is not cheap
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
neil who is 30 already by the way
i have no problem with a youth movement but a youth movement means young kids get a chance to play…paying these 2 3.6 million a year and taking away two spots kids could be taking is not a youth movement.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4th line is no place for a 20 year old
Let him get some playing time in the AHL while so over-the-hill brawlers play 5 min a game in the bigs
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
i assume you watched the playoffs and maybe it was my eyes but i seem to remember darren helm, jon abdelkader playing on the 4th line for detroit at 22.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea its called a call up
They didn’t waste their time on the 4th during the regular season
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you want low money let players like byers come up and fill the 4th line spot
not 1.4 million for brashear
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take those any day of the week
over 7 year, 6 million per contracts to overrated hacks
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so paying 4th liners like players is fine
as long as the number is lower. doesnt matter that they are just if not more inflated relative to actual worth.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not crazy about Brashear either
But at most we overpayed him by 1 mill. We’ve over payed other FAs by 10s of millions of $
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then dont use their signings as a sign of a youth movement
you want to say they just signed a bunch of cheap guys and wont compete thats fine.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am referring mainly to the trade which brought in Montreal’s top prospect at age 20
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the fact sather tried but failed to sign komisarek says what
that he was trying to create spots for those young d-men to play?
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Komisarek tell you that or was it Sather?
So far there has been one two-year signing and a bunch of unreliable rumors that have put your panties in a bunch
by XLII on Jul 1, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but if brashear is worth 700K and we pay him 1.4
is that better or worse than gomez who was probably worth 5 getting 7.37?
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Neil
Rangers believed to have 4 year deal for Chris Neil on the table
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess we're getting Gaborik
TSN is reporting Gaborik to the Rangers. 5 years x $5.75
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GABORIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeap … Gaborik , Higgins and McDonagh … Brashear … and soon to be Chris Neil … not bad I would say.
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i worry about 5 years with him but love his potential
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like someone said earlier
We got an offensive line to protect his fragile body
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND
Heatley agrees to go to the Oilers since we just signed Gaborik
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i knew it was too good to be true with sather
correction. Gaborik 5 years, $7.5 per year
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
correction. Gaborik 5 years, $7.5 per year
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5.75 was an injury risk discount
7.5 is paying full price and probably overpaying
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah … I’m a little ify about that honestly/
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets get Sykora now
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just found a rumor...
http://www.hockeytraderumors.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11485
This says we got Heatley. Gaborik and Heatley? Stanley Cup 2010?
by CT49erFanatic on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if that is the deal i do it in a second
we dont give up shit in that deal
Rozi, Zherdev, Potter and a 1…fuck that with all the D prospects we have we dont need picks especially since next year is supposed to be weak.
Hopefully this is true.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am too
especially with the news of Gabby Coming to NY.
by CT49erFanatic on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BS
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that shit happens … I wouldn’t know what to do
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone explain to me
HOW SATHER ALWAYS overpays.
Cammy got 6…Hossa got 5.2 cause they spread it out over BS years and we pay 7.5…we always pay 1-2 million more than we should
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Montreal could have a squad
Gionta to Mtl… 5 years, $25 mil.
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gionta + gomez + cammy = peewee hockey line
Gionta is 5’7"; Gomez, 5’11, Cammy, 5’9. Unreal.
by engineer on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eklund reports
that heatley is an Oiler…but then again Eklund said heatley was a ranger yesterday
by CT49erFanatic on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
when TSN reports it
i will believe it.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was joking the first time
but if we can dump off rozi i wouldnt mind kovalev for a year or 2. his play making with gaborik and letting Drury play off like he did with Briere could be special.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is that a new report
cause the one from this afternoon was taken back
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this was from the gionta story
Earlier in the day, the Canadiens signed forward Mike Cammalleri to a five-year deal worth $30-million. Also, the Habs inked veteran blueliner Jaroslav Spacek to a three year, $11.5 million contract and defenceman Hal Gill to a two-year, $4.5 million contract.
No mention of resigning Kovalev.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess it was redacted…i would of sword i read it.
by CT49erFanatic on Jul 1, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you did
but like i said they took it back
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Neil
Neil is staying as a Sen….thank the Lord Almighty.
by CT49erFanatic on Jul 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great news
i look at that as 2.2 mil off gaborik’s salary…lol.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TSN: Oilers management to meet face to face with Heatley tonight
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Lots of people in hockey world surprised at gaborik's new contract"
-David Pagnotta of thefourthperiod…once again sather will be ridiculed for overpaying by 1.5 mil a year.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NEW POST: Lamoriello says he’s ready to spend millions as Free Agent Frenzy begins on Thurs., July 2.
by Poe678 on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gabby
The guy played 15 games last year and has missed 15% of 4 of the previous 5 seasons he played and we gave him 7.5 per over a multiyear deal. How is this better than Gomez?
Is it official or are you kidding me again.
by Blueshirts Rock on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sjostrom
Only 750K a year and 1.5 mil for 2 years for a player with great upside and potential. He was a great penalty killer and for that price a bargain for the Flames. I thought his price qould be between 1 mil and 1.5 mil a season but a steal for only 750K!
by kiop900 on Jul 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he has no upside potential.
he is a great penalty killer, but lets not go crazy thinking he is suddenly going to score. still great price for his energy and penalty killing
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
Basically what i was saying but he also has great speed and maybe given a chance to get more minutes and not be on the 4th line would have shown his true potential but for 750K they should have signed him!
by kiop900 on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree he is worth 750K
but his speed was never in question…his lack of scoring was not about ice time but hands.
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to a source the Hawks went to the wire with Khabibulin, offered 2-yr, $8M deal.
surprising he went to Edmonton but i guess the other 2 years did it
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fact of the matter is...
Freddy Sjostrom gave us 150% every single damn night and he was quick and was part of the best PK unit in the league, say goodbye to that as hes gone and it seems like Betts wont be coming back. So im pretty upset about that. and Tho i like the Gabby signing, Id feel much better about it if we got Heatley too, Gabby wont play every game, he’ll get hurt in camp.
by Anthony J on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
only good part about that if it happens
salary wont count against the cap
by mleetch352 on Jul 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well lets keep our fingers crossed...
bc if he even plays 70 games a season, he’ll get 80 pts…40 goals…Higgins could score 30 goals, same with Zherdev, Cally is ready to score 25-30, dub will get 20, hopefully with 40-50 assists. Drury is good for 20, Avery gets 10-20. Hey you never know, we’re a lot better now than we were before and believe it or not, we still have 15 mil under the cap right now. So we could resign a few players and possibly land one more quality forward at like 3 mil or so.
by Anthony J on Jul 2, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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