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Rangers News: Larry Brooks says Rangers likely done with Zherdev


In today's NY Post, Larry Brooks says that Nik Zherdev's decision to file for salary arbitration may very well signal the end of the enigmatic winger's run on Broadway.

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As it was, there was debate within the organization whether to qualify Zherdev at the required $3.25 million price tag after his uneven season that frustrated both Tom Renney and John Tortorella.

Now, with Zherdev seeking a contract believed in the neighborhood of $4.5M, there's little doubt the Blueshirts would walk away from an arbitration award that's even a nickel more than $3.25M, and thus make the 24-year-old winger an unrestricted free agent.

It might open a second look at Heatley, though the Blueshirts have no more intention now than they did last week of surrendering prime young assets in order to get him. Plus, Heatley's sense of entitlement as framed by agent J.P. Barry in a recent interview with Canada's Sun Media seems excessive enough to scare anyone and everyone away.

The Rangers have held conversations with Dallas regarding Brad Richards, who has two years remaining on a contract carrying an annual $7.8M cap hit, and with San Jose concerning Patrick Marleau, who has one year to go at $6.3M on his deal, but there's no indication at this time that either player is on his way to Broadway.

This could free up another $3.25M for the Rangers to look elsewhere for scoring help. There are plenty of free agents still out there that could help the Rangers, like Tanguay, Sykora, Zubov. There's no way the Rangers should consider paying him more than the qualifying offer.

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Cap space

Can someone outline or point me in the direction of somewhere i can find out the actual cap space we have left? and what it would be after Z leaves?

by BK! on Jul 7, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator.php?Team=22

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent website. Thanks a lot! On a side note, it would seem to me more like Zherdev will want to leave once arbitration is over, don’t you think? No one in their right frame of mind would settle that meeting with anything in the $4M range.

I will admit though, Zherdev’s stickhandling were a highlight sometimes in the dead boring games we had mid season.

"Malik now." "6 foot 6, 238, not a noted goal scorer but he's gonna give it a shot here." "Malik has not scored this year. In on Kolzig, faked it....SCORES"

by Calm Down on Jul 7, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Click generate roster at the bottom without filling anything else in and you can see how much cap room the Rangers have left. You can also elect to “sign” the RFA’s to speculative deals and play around with the numbers – very useful website.

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

cool website

I think the lines it came up with were hysterical for what I put in.
AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Marian Gaborik ($7.5m) / Chris Drury ($7.0m) / Chris Higgins ($2.2m)
Sean Avery ($1.9m) / Donald Brashear ($1.4m) / Patrick Rissmiller ($1.0m)

  • Lauri Korpikoski ($1.0m) / * Ryan Callahan ($0.9m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.8m)
  • Brian Boyle ($0.8m) / Evgeny Grachev ($0.7m) / * Brandon Dubinsky ($0.6m)
  • Dane Byers ($0.6m) / Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau ($0.5m)
    DEFENSEMEN
    Wade Redden ($6.5m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.0m)
    Matt Gilroy ($1.8m) / Daniel Girardi ($1.6m)
    Michael Del Zotto ($0.9m) / Bobby Sanguinetti ($0.8m)
    Marc Staal ($0.8m) / * Corey Potter ($0.5m)
    GOALTENDERS
    Henrik Lundqvist ($6.9m) / Steve Valiquette ($0.7m)

I especially like that this is generated via contract size, so Marc Staal is a scratch, and Patrick Rissmiller and Donald Brashear on our second line. Awesome website, but I’m glad our lines aren’t mixed according to salary.

by AllHailTheKing30 on Jul 7, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adios, Nik

Zherdev is destined for Siberia.

Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 7, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I can definitely see him getting $4-5 million in Russia. Definitely no love lost here – so long as we replace him.

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

new at this.

how does it work now for players like aaron voros? his salary only counts if hes called up to the team or what? i would assume hed be playin in hartford soooo that million counts if hes down in hartford or what? :-/ im confused.

by BK! on Jul 7, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

That capgeek is a great website, and a great time killer at work, not that I need another one

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 7, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m on it all the time; it really is a great tool.

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voros???

Is his salary going to be a hit against us this season whether he makes the team or not?

by Blueshirts Rock on Jul 7, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

rissmiller will be in hartford, voros might be given a shot just b/c he has a history with Gabs. but they waived him at the end of last season and its likely if it comes down to him or grachev or another prospect, voros is in the ahl.

by John Merrigan on Jul 7, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rissmiller is a UFA as per NHLNumbers.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they are in hartford they count nothing against the cap

by b4mv01 on Jul 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

which is what we will do to redden in 12 months to pay staal and girardi. lol.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur with that statement lol

by b4mv01 on Jul 7, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t count on Girardi being back, especially if it’s the 2008-2009 Girardi and not the 2007-2008.

Personally, I say package him for Hudler.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really want Tanguay now

Tanguay is a playmaking left winger who has played with the likes of Forsberg, Iginla and Kovalev. He knows what it is like to play with a superstar. Give him a nice contract and sign him up.

Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 7, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Higgins is a nice player

But is nowhere in Tanguay’s leauge.

Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 7, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what league is that? The guy who, in his most recent full season (2007-2008), put up just 58 points?

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And before that year he had a solid strech of averaging about a point per game

79 78 81.
07-08 was a rough year, nevertheless, he was having a good year last year before separating his shoulder.
I doubt Higgins will be capable of a point per game any time soon.

Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the contrary, I believe he is. Tanguay is 30, and is no longer in his prime. Higgins, who will be playing with Gaborik, is 27 and is entering his prime. if he stays healthy, he can put up those numbers.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about using that money towards Versteeg

He’s a year and a half younger and I believe he is much more in line with Tort’s system than Zherdev is. I no this whole RFA/UFA hasn’t resolved itself yet in Chicago, but I’ve been checking in on their blog for updates. Today I read this:

This is probably yet another sign that our time with Versteeg is probably done – which is upsetting since he was such a fun player to watch last year, both on and off the ice.

by XLII on Jul 7, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I have said that repeatedly…same type of deal i would give cally, dubi 4/10 range.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rozi and Z to LA for Frolov and O’Donnell. we have 4 mil next year replace Z’s offense with a more consistent player and dump rozi’s salary for a steady 1 year 6th/7th d-man. spend 2.5 of the money to bring in versteeg (4/10 like dubi and cally should get) if they rule him a UFA and we just went from one overpaid enigma in Z to two scoring wingers who can put up 25-30 a year for the measley price of 1 mil more than Z wants.

Frolov (2.9)-Drury (7.05)-Gaborik (7.5) =17.45
Higgins (2.25)- Dubi (2.5) – Cally (2.5) =7.25
Avery (1.938) – Artem (.821) – Versteeg (2.5) =5.26
Brashear (1.4) -Boyle (.750)-Korpo (1) =3.15

Staal (.827)-Girardi(1.55) 2.377
Redden (6.5) – Gilroy (1.75) 8.25
O’Donnell (1.2) – (Heikken, Sangs, Sauer) (.850 top) 2.05

Goal 7.6

Total 53.4

Can bring back mara for a year at 1.5 and carry a forward even voros at a mil and still have about 900K in space.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 7, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn’t NHL ’09. LA never takes that deal.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

LA is looking to win

Attaining Smyth, Scuderi, LA wants to win. Frolov and Kopitar are their top scorers and while Frolov is making less than 3 mill per year, LA wont move him for our garbage.

Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 7, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt realize you were the kings gm considering they just took on smyth’s deal, frolov is going to walk in a year and they just dealt 2 d-men to get smyth.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 7, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Preissing was #7 on their depth chart, and is 30 years old and was essentially replaced by Scuderi.

As for Quincey, yea, he’s good, but you have to give up something to get something.

Oh, and defense is a position of strength for LA (Doughty, Greene, O’Donnell, Johnson). Deal from strength to fill a weakness.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me Tanguay, Sykora, and Zubov, let Zherdev walk if necessary, and I think you’ve got a team that can compete

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

And how exactly do you plan on paying Staal (2010), Dubinsky, Callahan and Korpikoski?

Tanguay commands a minimum $5 mil a year for 4 years.
Sykora will get $3 mil for 2-3 years
Zubov will get $3 mil for 1 year.

It’s just market value.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree; the Rangers need to leave cap space open to re-sign Staal (and Girardi) next year. While Higgins will be a UFA next year, he’s probably a guy Sather would want to keep depending on the price. Personally, I think they should definitely look into bringing Patrick Marleau in as he only has 1-year remaining on his contract. Richards would be nice, but the big cap hit for next year will be very difficult to maneuver, especially if he has a poor season.

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Tanguay can be had for less, and if Redden doesn’t perform well this year, no way his $6M is still on the books next year.

But oofah, didn’t realize Drury’s cap hit is 8 mil next year, holy crap

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, his cap hit is the same throughout the life of the contract. Just his salary goes up, not the cap hit.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmph, than the website I read is wrong, ok. As I’ve told you before, I’m a cap dumbass

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pronger signed to seven year extension!?

I would love to know how the Flyers plan on managing the cap for the future.

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoring themselves out to 1,000 fat chicks for $50 each.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Family Guy much?

"Never surrender opportunity for security."
--Branch Rickey

by brozer on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Fat chicks need love too. But they gotta pay.

by Dave Shapiro on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luckily Philly has no shortage of fat chicks

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not gonna like playing pronger for 8 years

by b4mv01 on Jul 7, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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