Ranger Rumors: Please, Just Please, Say no to Brad Richards.
by KBrian on Aug 7, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
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PrintWith the smoldering august weather making the lack of Ranger news even worse, i proceeded with the unthinkable, i headed over to the bleacher report in hope of finding something that *GASP* all of my other usual stops for Rangers news hadn't covered yet. When i got there I practically got smacked with the double edged sword and immediately felt awful for searching for news, because i found something that could pretty much destroy my confidence in us ever winning anything let alone a Stanley Cup.
From the Geniuses at the Bleacher Report:
The latest information to hit my desk!
Ladies and Gentlemen we can now tell you that without a shadow of a doubt the only reason why the Rangers have yet to sign Brandon Dubinsky is because they are planning to package him in a deal.
We have recently learned that the package includes Michal Rozsival and a prospect being sent to Dallas in exchange for Brad Richards and another player yet to be named.
The Hockey Rumor Mill has received confirmation with our sources in the Stars organization that Dallas and the Rangers are indeed very close on sealing a deal that would send Richards to Broadway.
Now to say that i had a heart attack, when i read this fine little piece of scuttlebutt would be a major understatement. In a warped sense of Sather-ist management, this completely makes sense. Why not trade one of your recently graduated prospects/future stars for someone with a bloated contract because you cannot wait an extra year for him to blossom in the league. Now don't get me wrong here, Brad Richards is a great player, but his 7.8 million dollar cap hit is outfrikkinrageous for the points he puts up. Let us think back to Scott Gomez's first season with the Rangers.
2007 Rangers 81 16 54 70 3 36 7 0 3 0 242
The guy put up 70 points, putting up more assists than Richards usually averages, and by many accounts that was a poor season, and everyone expected much more of Gomez, which lead to everyone's belief that he is not worthy of his bloated contract. Now lets look at Richards' past couple of seasons:
2006 Lightning 82 25 45 70 -19 23 12 1 3 0 272 2007 Stars 12 2 9 11 -2 0 0 1 0 0 21 2007 Lightning 62 18 33 51 -25 15 9 1 4 0 228 2008 Stars 56 16 32 48 -4 6 5 0 2 0 180
Richards on average, puts up anywhere from 65-75 points, not withstanding his one 90 point season, barring injury. Now last time i checked, those are Scott Gomez type numbers. And also, last time i checked, Richards makes more money than Gomez. The Rangers, just this off season unloaded Gomez to Montreal, and now if what happens in this story comes to fruition, The Rangers basically re-acquire a more expensive Scott Gomez which to me sounds preposterous, and unfortunately the exact kind of thing Glen Sather is known for and prone to doing. Now think it over, The Rangers lose one of their bright up and coming stars for an overpaid mid-career veteran and the cap situation is basically controlled by Richards, Drury, Redden, Gaborik and Rozsival. Seeing as how I am used to seeing the worst happen to this team imagine this: Gaborik goes down with a major injury, Drury has an off season, there is no hope for Redden anyway so why bother, Rozsival is not a game breaking defenseman, and even if Richards puts up one of his usual seasons, he will STILL be overpaid and everyone will want more production out of him. This is exactly what happened with Scott Gomez when Jagr did not play up to his usual greatness his last season with the Rangers. He had an up to par season for himself but the superstars around him didn't excel with him. The same exact scenario is possible with Brad Richards and he STILL MAKES MORE MONEY THAN GOMEZ.
Case in point the entire situation looks tragic to me, because if they trade Dubinsky i will lose all faith in the management. They will get rid of a player every fan loves and wants to see succeed in New York and give the fans a clear indication that they do not know what the hell direction they are taking this team. So please Glen Sather, I ask you, no i BEG you, give the kid his 3 million dollars, suit him up in Ranger blue for at least another 3 years, and please, just please, say no to Brad Richards.
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Tom Hicks is facing financial problems
So that could be a major reason why they move Richards.
I still doubt that this move happens.
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by The American Mr.Hockey on Aug 7, 2009 6:55 AM EDT reply actions
Trimming the part
Where they allege Dubinsky is asking for money than Callahan was convenient.
Dubinsky for all that we love him, isn’t worth say 3m, or whatever he’s asking. He might be eventually, but not now.
Still, I don’t want to see him traded. I had said a week or two ago though that packaging him is a good reason why he wouldn’t have been signed yet.
This better not happen
Or I’m going to start looking for a new team to root for until Dolan/Sather are out of here. Couple of decades should do it, right?
Say it ain't so.....
Don’t want to see this happen either. However, for discussions sake, a lot would depend on the aforementioned “and another player yet to be named”. What if this was indeed as has been mentioned previously – Robidas. Would you do it then? What if it was Jams Neal? What would it take from Dallas to even it out? Just for the heck of it.
Everyone Relax
Bleacher Report knows nothing. Word around the inner circles of hockey peopel I trust tell me that Dubinsky and Sather are in discussions right now.
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Exactly.
This was posted in my comments section, I read it, had a slight heart attack, then thought more about it, and realized that it makes no sense:
1) No cap space for Richards
2) Not enough to give up for Richards (Dubi/Rosi/prospect)
3) No cap space for Richards
4) The Rangers WILL NOT start 3 rookie D (dealing Rosi)
5) NO CAP SPACE
Hey Dave, we’ve missed you.
Let’s keep in mind guys, while the Bleacher Report does have some good writers, there are many people over there just trying to attract attention by putting crazy stuff out there.
I put this on the main page because I knew it would get you guys fired up, and things are slow
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 7, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
Richards would fit under the cap if we were giving up Rozi ($5 mm) and Dubi (figures to make around $2mm). It’d be a tight squeeze filling out the roster but I think we could work it out, especially if Voros starts in Hartford.
I am hoping this is bogus…dubi shows just as much if not MORE passion than callahan. dont get me wrong i LOVE calli..but dubi is a hell of a teammate! last year if there was a disturbance and colton was not on the ice..dubi went toe to toe without hesitating. he is young, had a minor sophmore slump, but has the potential to be the future captain of this organization
I'd rather have Keith, than Brad
I’d lock Dubi up at 3 mill a year for 15 years and front load the contract to bring the cap hit down. Other than that, the same deal Calli got should be great. I don’t see us starting 2 rookie d-men let alone 3, but I would like to see Rozi packaged in a deal.
Every time Rozi’s name is mentioned in some sort of superstar trade rumor like Heatley or Richards or Marleau I immediately think “dealing Rozi wouldn’t free up enough cap space” and then I remember he makes 5 mil a year. Without fail, I still cannot comprehend that deal, my brain refuses to acknowledge it.
If you want the team to have a chance this year or next year, its not a bad trade. Every team that has a title chance has two or three go-to guys. As of now, the rangers only have one in Gaborik. But in three years when Dubi and Callahan have matured and all 8000 of our d-prospects have matured we’ll have a legit chance. Don’t do it Glen!
wtf?
umm… I really think the Rangers are talking to Dubinsky to sign him. Knowing Sather, he is probably just surveying all free agent options just so he can show he has the cap space now, instead of less later.
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well, he posted it because of the absurdity, and everyone followed suit. I think everyone here knows Bleacher Report is the Weekly World News of Sports sites
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 7, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what, i dont want to believe these rumors but i would not be surprised the slightest bit if it happens. ok for everyone who says hes not a first line guy, ummm.. no one said he was, because if he was, he’d be paid like one, 2.5 million seems reasonable, just look at jordan staal a similar player with upside but will play solid 2 & 3line minutes, 2pp unit and play pk once in a while, faceoffs are important uuhmmm..15 of 17 vs washington the last game aint to bad for a non 1st line player. Not only should dubinsky center the first line of higgins and gabz, but he should wear an ‘a’. SATHER PLEASE DONT GIVE UP ON DUBI!
by louielounz1 on Aug 7, 2009 10:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
NO F-ING way............
this trade goes down, and if it does it automatically becomes the worst trade in Rangers history. Sather would be Bob Gainey to the Dallas Stars. It would totally negate the Gomez trade and all the good feelings we had once Sather unloaded him to the Canadiens. No f-ing way boys!!!! this is all talk cuz there is nothing ele to talk about in the middle of august. Concentrate on the Yankees right now…….(jus got done watching A-rod hitting a walk off hr in the 15th inning against the Red Sox!!!!) and concentrate on the Giants in training camp and not this BS rumor thats going nowhere……………..trust me!!!!
Playing the part of Devil's advocate ...
We’d get back a proven, veteran center with a Conn Smythe and Stanley Cup on his resume, which he earned playing for the current head coach. Rozy is easily replaced by any of three defensive prospects we already have and, while Dubi has serious upside, he isn’t the same kind of puck distributor that Richards is. Given that the success of the team hinges around the success of Marian Gaborik, you want someone who can get him the puck in good spots …
It would be sad to see another Ranger product dealt away but I would be more upset if they wasted him on some deal to get Heatley.
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RELAX...DUBI HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL
I would think that even Mr Sather would come to his senses,clear his office of cigar smoke and give Dubi what he deserves (a nice long career in NYC)……Do the right thing Slats……..And also, stop looking at Theo Fleury
I think some of you are way too high on Dubinsky.
He is a big kid who is a good skater, but he didn’t do shit last year, at all. He may end up blossoming, or he may not, and end up another 10-30 forward who really doesn’t help out. I wouldn’t make this deal because of the salary, but if Richards was making 5.8 instead I probably do it. I think Dubinsky is way overrated.
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