Rangers Recap: Capitals 4 Rangers 3
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Quick recap, I didn't see the game, and Joe is having technical difficulties. A few notes, and then you can link the game recap below:
From Andrew Gross at Ranger Rants: (click link for full story)
No surprise Tortorella called the first two periods the worst the Rangers have played in the preseason. "It was turnovers, no battles, anything about the game in the first two periods, you could go down the list," Tortorella said.
Tortorella said the plan is to reduce the roster by one by tomorrow, if not tonight, leaving the Rangers with 22 players. Tortorella said, right now, he would include veteran tryout Alexei Semenov within the 22 but the Rangers still need to sign him to a contract. Tortorella said we'd have to talk to GM Glen Sather, then, seeing the looks on our faces, then asked if we ever talked to Sather. Sometimes, he was told. But not often. So if the number is 22 and that includes Semenov, it's down to cutting either a forward (Boyle, Anisimov, Voros, Grachev) or D Michael Del Zotto (presuming Matt Gilroy has made the team and unless the Rangers do something really unexpected like try to send down either Wade Redden or Michal Rozsival, which, personally, I think is kind of doubtful). Under that scenario, I think a forward gets cut because I can't see carrying only six defensemen. Purely on performance, I think Boyle has shown the least of those four, taking the preseason as a whole. Based on salary cap, shedding Voros' $1 million might be appealing. But the fact that Avery isn't available increases the need for wings so maybe they keep Prospal on the wing to start.
I know some of you guys have been down on Girardi, and it sounds like the coach is with you:
Tortorella is not happy with defenseman Dan Girardi. The coach said it wasn't just the "young guys" playing badly, "it starts with the veteran guys." Particularly when asked about Girardi's training camp, Tortorella admitted he was not happy with the way the fourth-year veteran had approached his preseason.
From Steve Zipay at Blue Notes: (click link for full story)
Artem Anisimov (with his team-leading fourth goal), Evgeny Grachev (his first) and Donald Brashear---playing his first game here since leaving the Caps in the summer---scored in the third to provide some semblance of balance.
"If we played like that for the first two, it might have been a different outcome," said Vinny Prospal, who played left wing with Brandon Dubinsky at center and Marian Gaborik on the right. "We didn’t support our goalie and didn’t have enough shots. Then we got our (butts) kicked between periods."
Definitely sounds like I made the right move going to watch the Giants.
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third period
we kicked butt haha.
and brashear even had a goal.
moving anisimov off the third line would be a big mistake. he earned that spot.
i really like prospal on the wing on the first line. him dubi and gaborik played well together today.
i think grachev is sent down because theres really no openings on the first 3 lines and theres no point of putting him on the fourth. hes only 19, and id rather him have a very good year in the ahl first.
and putting him in would just take anisimov out, which isnt doing anything for us. anisimov has shown us hes nhl ready. grachev has shown he has a lot of talent, but i think he needs 1 more year in the minors.
after todays game i think the roster should be this.
prospal dubi gaborik
higgins drury kotaik
avery anisimov callahan
brashear boyle voros
+lisin
staal gilroy
girardi MDZ
redden roszival
+semenov
lundqvist
valiquete
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
i agree that the prospal – dubi – gabby line was excellent in the 3rd in chemistry moving and cycling the puck and creating chances or penalties.
putting them together should move artem back up where he belongs on the 3rd line. the only issue right now is that boyle hasnt played well, but he doesnt really have to be that great as the 4th line center.
Watching the first two periods was pitiful. The Rangers were 3-4 steps behind the Capitals on every play. Countless turnovers, sleep-skating, no moment in their own zone, it was atrocious. The Rangers gave Varlamov a huge boost in the Calder race, (heck they practically gave him the trophy) as there was no offense to be found. Bettman was on the scene awaiting the trophy ceremony. The Rangers must’ve gotten caught in traffic because I still think there was a pee-wee hockey team out skating.
Then the third period started. The Rangers arrived in the building. Regarding my above statement, the players decided, “you know what? I’ll actually try…”, and scored three goals. With some offense from the Rangers, Bettman put the Calder trophy back in it’s case and left. There were limited (if any) turnovers in their own zone. The players took the cardboard defenders off the ice and played defense themselves, and the pee-wee team was sent home early. It was a dominating period.
If the Rangers played like they did in the third in the first two periods, they most likely would’ve won. Washington took advantage of the extremely poor, lackluster play, and scored 4 goals in 40 min. Lundqvist did everything he could with what the team gave him (seriously what did he have?). Vally played well in the third. The first two periods were so bad Jim, i don’t know if you read the open thread, but it turned into a football discussion.
I don’t know what else to say. There were some bright spots, but they were all overshadowed by the effortless play and numerous turnovers in the neutral and own zone. Among those that didn’t play at all: Rozsival, who had by far his worst outing in my opinion, and Semenov, who in my opinion looked more sluggish than others at times. Among those who played well: The line of Dubi, Prospal, and Gaborik, was sharp in the third, Callahan was one of the best, if not thee best forward through two, Grachev and Anisimov each scored beauties and Brashear ripped a slapshot home for the third goal. Everyone’s game elevated in the third, so I guess it’s unfair to single out only a few.
So in conclusion, yeah, good call with the Giants game Jim.
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only thing i would say was different from your assessment was Higgins was probably the best forward overall, especially in the early periods.
i dont see how watching rozi and semenov we can send mdz back to juniors because we become very thin on D and slow as well. Redden has played well, especially comparative to last year, showed good aggression in stepping up in the play today.
Girardi does need to pick his game up and it was nice to see Staal doing his best Gilroy impression rushing the puck in the 3rd.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 27, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well, all I can say is that while the timing sucked, they have played fairly well overall in the preseason, and were due for a stinker. Finally the games are for real in a few days
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 27, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
I have a feeling that MDZ will go back to junior for one more year.
I do agree on Grachev, he is playing well for a 19 year old, but there is no space for him on the roster and Anisimov should get the spot over Grachev due to pro experience in AHL, age and performance (I think he has played better than Grachev). Next year Grachev will definitely make it and will be a lot better, more experienced and stronger. The future looks bright :)
I agree- Grachev is an excellent talent but would benefit from being at Hartford this year and brought up in the middle of the year, if his play warrants the move or makes the team next year. AA needs to be the third line center in the first half of the season and maybe with some strong play he can elevate his position on the team depending on how others produce; namely Dru and Dubi.
As far as the D is concerned-someone has to go. Did not like the play of Rozi so far this year – a little lack luster if you ask me. Girardi needs to step it up and become a little more physical as well. Redden, this system is made for you so this should be your wake up call. So far the kids DZ and Gilroy have outplayed three vets-not good.
Did Torts Get the Memo?
Rozival is terrible, he gave that game away, regardless of his cap space, by continuing to play him it voids the hard work of the entire team. Redden while looking better in Pre-season is one second from choking. These two will be the reason the wheel falls off, if Rangers do not get there heads out of the sand.
Anisimov Should be put on a line higer than 4, and stay.
Boyle should be sent down
Undecided on Grachev
Please get Gilroy back in the game so we have an exciting season
Del Zotto should stay period!
Drury needs to step up and score some goals
Seminov is not cutting it for me either
Even with great defense from Gilroy and Del Zotto, if Torts does not address the R&R issue we will not advance this season. I know this has not been the first time you have all heard this but maybe if we type it over and over again Torts will do somethign about it!
My take on the Rangers lines for right now is MDZ and Gilroy are locked in for the team. Torts said he wanted a 7 D-men and he has 7. With Avery injured and Boyle not playing up to par, Anisimov has a lock on his position. Depending on what Torts does with Prospal and Dubi for centers or wingmen I would say Grachev stays with the team until Avery comes back. Sending Voros and Boyle back to Hartford. Roszival to me doesn’t look like he wants to be in a NY Rangers jersey anymore with his play. Thats just my take though. Redden will have a great year, he’s playing a lot better than he was last year. Maybe if we make a trade with Avangard Omsk for Babchuck and Jagr for Roszival, Voros and Sanguenetti … we could do some damage. On the real, it’s not looking good for Sangs though, him and Sauer are said to be shopped around later on for not fitting Torts defensive system.
What’s most (un)-amusing about Sanguinetti – if Torts had been the coach last year, he would have made the team then. Instead, they sent him to Hartford, taught him the Renney system, and mucked (you can substitute another letter for “m” if you wish) with his head.
Now he’s being shopped around. Sad, really, that the organization screwed him.
YEAH
we did mess with sangs a bit..
now… id really prefer prospal on dubis wing along with gaborik..
those three played well..
im pretty sure we knew grachev would be sent down. its good for him to be honest. hes going to get stronger and faster and smarter, and next year hell be on the team playing with anisimov and gaborik ;)
we have enough depth that we do not need to rush him and we can give him another year to further develop his game.
so here are our lines. with grachev being sent down im almost positive prospal stays on the wing. if we move him to center, lisin gets put on the third and anisimov the fourth, which is not a good move. anisimov has played very well and he has earned his third line spot.
im pretty sure this is our lineup now.
prospal dubinsky gaborik
higgins drury kotalik
avery anisimov callahan
brashear boyle voros
lisin
lisin will step in for avery until he is healthy. remember, voros can also play center. so if boyle doesnt perform we can always stick voros at center with lisin on his wing. and then on defense.
staal gilroy
girardi mdz
r and r
semenov
i think were being a little too hard on girardi.. if he struggles in the season its one thing, but for 2 years hes been one of our top 2 defensemen. a few not so good preseason games doesnt bother me in the least bit. now to r and r. obviously neither is worth the money their getting, but we cant look at their performance based on their salary.
preseason is not a true indicator, but from what ive seen:
redden has been gone enough that he wont hurt the team. he maybe wont help it out to much but i dont think hell really hurt it either.
roszival on the other hand will. he has looked god awful in the preseason. i think he had 3 assists for the opposite teams already. hes bringing the team down and unless he improves on his performance i think torts will either trade him or send him down.
im hoping that we can ship him off somewhere for a 4th round pick to clear some cap space so we can resign staal and girardi next season.
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Only one way out...
The only way we get rid of Rosival or Redden is by eating some of the contract value or taking on someone else’s baggage.
Perhaps we can send one of them to Hartford, let them waste away there and maybe even make it miserable to the point they ask out of their contract. It works in other industries.
well..
if it comes down to something like.
resign staal and girardi and send rozi to the minors, or let staal and girardi go. (which will be a very likely scenario)
im praying to god that we send rozi down.
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

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