Rangers Recap: Offensive Woes Continue as Senators shut out Rangers 2-0
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 14, 2010 10:57 PM EST
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We talked about it before the game, how the Rangers couldn't let themselves get trapped against the lowly Senators coming off the Devils game. We talked about how the measure of a good team is not just how they perform against the best, but against the worst as well.
The Rangers proved they aren't quite ready for the "good team" category yet. For the second straight game at Madison Square Garden, they were shutout, losing 2-0 to the Ottawa Senators behind stellar goaltending from Mike Brodeur.
Five minutes into the game, John Tortorella was using his timeout, his team was as flat a pancake. Not even two fights between Donald Brashear and Matt Carkner could energize his team.
Rangers did pick up their play at times in the second period, but it really wasn't until the third period that they truly found their game, but Brodeur, summoned from Binghamton earlier in the day to start in net, was up to the task, making 32 saves and earning his second victory of the season.
On the other side, Henrik Lundqvist was just as good, making several incredible saves, keeping the Rangers in a game that they were mostly outplayed and outhustled in.
With just over a minute left in regulation, Alexei Kovalev found an open man in Chris Campoli, who was able to put a shot over Lundqvist's shoulder for the game-winner. Chris Kelly would add an empty net goal to finish the scoring.
Final thoughts:
- I think Henrik Lundqvist is playing the best hockey of his career. I can't recall another stretch where he was as locked in as he is right now.
- Rangers haven't scored since Erik Christensen's goal 37 seconds into the third period against Boston on Saturday.
- Chris Drury and Sean Avery were by far the Rangers two best forwards on the ice tonight.
- The Rangers got trapped, proof that not enough of them are reading Blueshirt Banter.
Notes and Quotes after the jump.......
NEW YORK RANGERS POST-GAME NOTES
January 14, 2010 - New York Rangers 0, Ottawa Senators 2 (Game #47, Home #25)
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- The Rangers were defeated by the Ottawa Senators, 2-0, tonight at Madison Square Garden, and have now posted a record of 22-18-7 (51 pts.) overall and 10-11-4 (24 pts.) at home this season.
- New York have now recorded a point in 12 of their last 14 games (9-2-3), and are 8-2-1 (17 pts.) against Northeast Division opponents this season.
- The Rangers penalty kill held the Senators scoreless in one power play opportunity, and have now held their opponents scoreless on the man advantage in their last 21 chances, including each of the last seven games overall and the last five games at MSG.
- Henrik Lundqvist made 32 saves and has now held opponents to two or fewer goals in 16 of his last 19 games; prior to Chris Campoli's goal at 18:46 of the third, Lundqvist stopped 81 consecutive shots and registered a 127:06 scoreless streak, dating back to Jan. 9 at Boston (D. Wideman, 16:16 of the third period).
- Rangers Captain Chris Drury registered a season-high 19 faceoff wins, and recorded a 79% (19-24) success rate; he has recorded a 50%-or-better faceoff winning percentage in each of the last six games, registering a 63.1% (77-122) success rate over the span; Drury also tied for the team-high with five shots on net.
- The Rangers won 44 of 63 faceoffs for a success rate of 70% in the contest.
- Ryan Callahan tallied a team-high six hits in 19:54 of icetime, and has now registered 165 hits on the season; entering tonight's contest, Callahan ranked fourth overall in the NHL in hits.
- The Blueshirts practice schedule for tomorrow, Jan. 15, is 12:00 p.m. at the MSG Training Center.
- The Rangers return to action when they will face-off against the St. Louis Blues on Saturday, Jan. 16, at the Scottrade Center (8:00 p.m.), in the first game of a back-to-back set; the game will be televised live on PIX 11 and can be heard on 970 The Apple.
POST-GAME QUOTES
John Tortorella on tonight's game...
"We were outworked. That team wanted to play harder than we did tonight. They deserve what they got and we deserve what we got. It is funny what happens. It is simple game of work habit and they simply worked harder."
Henrik Lundqvist on tonight's game...
"We played hard for the whole game and then I don't know what we did in the last minute. When you don't score, a mistake like that costs you. It is frustrating because, I think, everybody is playing hard and playing solid defensively but it comes down to we need to score goals, too."
Ryan Callahan on tonight's game...
"No excuses. I don't understand why we're not ready, but we have to start getting prepared to play games. We wanted to make sure there was no let down after the (New) Jersey game, after being such an emotional game, and I thought we did that and tonight we come out and we have a start like that. I don't know what the explanation is but it definitely has to change."
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its time to go out and get some scoring....the only untouchables should be hank,gabby,avery and staal.....case closed
by froese99 on Jan 14, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no this is proof to be sellers and let this team die off this year, not give up picks and prospects just to squeak in the playoffs.
by mleetch352 on Jan 14, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no...
this is proof that this team should sell the “valuable” assets that still have the rest of the league fooled i.e. cally and dubi…they are 3rd liners, no more, no less. trade these guys for guys with actual skills…and by skills, guys that do more that “hustle, play real hard, and really really try…” i love comments like these by the broadcoasters, dubi, cally, dru, higgy, others get them…“boy he really cares” “hes trying awfully hard” what is this squirts? trying only gets you so far, talent gets you farther, and those guys mentioned above have very little of it
LETS GO RANGERS
by sloppyseconds on Jan 14, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t call Mike Brodeur’s play “stellar”. He was “ok” at best. There was never any tough second save he needed to make. The title will read “Mike Brodeur shuts out Rangers” and everyone will think he played better than Hank.
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by rmc235 on Jan 14, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you were spot on w/ the trap call, Jim. good work in a sort of bittersweet way
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by Plusch on Jan 14, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t tell if I should be worried about gaborik or not. He doesn’t look injured or even tired. He just doesn’t get help.
by Joe1969 on Jan 14, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jim i'll be honest
Brodeur wasn’t great tonight. I counted three (that’s right 3) scoring chances for the Rangers. I was at the game and watched shot after shot hit his chest. What a joke, no offense and when we need it no defense.
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by Joe Fortunato on Jan 14, 2010 10:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
32 saves is 32 saves Joe, Rangers had plenty of scoring chances, he kept them out of the net. If the situation was flip flopped, we would be raving about how great Hank was.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 15, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here is my summary of the game:
Sam: “And a save by Brodeur.”
Joe: “Man he seems calm and collected doesn’t he?”
Sam: “He is playing well.”
Joe: “Called up earlier today…”
Sam: “That’s Mike Brodeur, no relation to Marty.”
Joe: “He’s not Marty but the Rangers can’t score on him.”
Sam: “Yea, Brodeur wasn’t traded, he’s still on the Devils…”
Joe: “Playing like Marty though…”
Sam: “He is 1-0-0 in his NHL career…”
Joe: “Only a couple behind Marty.”
Sam: “Haha only a few…”
Joe: “He has a perfect winning percentage!”
Sam: “Well I didn’t think of it that way, but you’re right!”
Joe: “And he’s coming into New York, after lugging his huge bag up 4 flights to the rink…”
Sam: “Give the man some help!”
Joe: “And he’s shutting out the Rangers here at MSG.”
Sam: “What a story.”
Joe: “Yea, what a story.”
Sam: “That shot is gloved by Brodeur.”
Joe: “Not Marty, Mike, from Calgary, Alberta.”
Sam: “Coming here and playing well, back to back Brodeur’s for the Rangers.”
Joe: “They can’t beat him.”
Sam: “The Rangers now have been shut out for over 2 hours.”
Joe: “They’ve been shut out for quite a while…”
Sam: “2 hours.”
Joe: “Brodeur has stopped them all.”
Sam: “Not Marty, although his name does begin with an ‘M’…”
Joe: “Yep, Mike Brodeur, playing in his second NHL game.”
Sam: “And he’s got a shutout here at MSG.”
Joe: “What a story this is.”
Sam: “This kid is 26 years old, just arrived, and he gets the win.”
Joe: “Mike, not Marty, Mike Brodeur, beats the Rangers.”
Sam: “The Rangers lose to Brodeur again, as Mike Brodeur and the Sens win 2-0 here at the Garden.”
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by rmc235 on Jan 14, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
lmao very funny
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 15, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks to both of you.
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by rmc235 on Jan 15, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if we trade Lundqvist to a team that can score, he’ll get the wins he deserves every night.
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by rmc235 on Jan 14, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
admittedly i didnt see the whole game so if this changed let me know, but this unyielding desire of torts that he must play prospal with gabby is not helping the offense right now. we had a line with dubi, ec and gabby that was playing well and both of those other players were playing the best hockey they have played all year, and as soon as prospal comes back they break them up and i believe i saw at least for a shift or two that i saw that when a change was made to prospal-ec-gabby it was to then remove ec and move dubi back up. someone needs to tell torts that gabby and prospal will survive on different lines.
also it should not be a shock that this team has offensive problems. somewhere around a month ago i said that it was inevitable that gabby had to slow down his scoring because he had never in his career been near the pace that he was on at that point. I think it was Joe who said it didnt have to happen because players like Ovie never do, but Gabby as skilled as he is has never put up those kind of numbers for a whole year. Now we are 2G in the last 10 games. I will also say that as great of an athlete as he is, it seems as if the huge minutes he was getting early are wearing on him right now.
We have scored a lot of points in the last series of games and that makes people hopeful about this season, but a vast majority of those points have come because of the way Hank has played the last month. He has given up more than 2 goals in 2 of his last 15 starts; 3 of 19. I dont feel like calculating his stats for that exact stretch but his numbers in Dec 1.92GAA .938SV%. In January even better…1.36GAA .953SV%.
This team as i have said before and will continue to say is meant to be a seller this year. For as well as they have played they are 2 pts up on 9th place and 5 up on 13th. Also now that they have lost two straight i have a hard time seeing Torts not playing Hank in both games this weekend when we all thought Chad would get a start.
by mleetch352 on Jan 14, 2010 10:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gaborik not scoring doesn’t reflect any “trouble” he has or his abilities on the ice right now. It’s easy for players of the same skill level as Gaborik to maintain their scoring pace because they play on teams that find the back of the net. Gaborik has about 23.33% of the goals scored by the Rangers. The team as a whole is only averaging 2.55 goals a game. The players who lead the league in goals for also have players on their respective teams to provide secondary scoring. Gaborik needs to create the oppotunities for himself to score, while others have other players able to create plays for them.
His pace slowing down only proves there is no scoring. If the Rangers were able to have secondary scoring, and have the threat to score 3 or 4 goals a game, Gaborik’s pace would still be at the career high he was predicted to have. No great scorer can score unassisted every game. Gaborik is trying to do just that, and it’s not working, because it never has before. I fully expect him to continue to play the same he has during this “drought”…. if you want to call it one.
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by rmc235 on Jan 14, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his pace still is above career high pace. i dont disagree that part of it is the deficiency of guys around him, but it is also unrealistic to expect him to avg 1.5 pts a game as he was doing when he had 26G and 25A in 35 games.
by mleetch352 on Jan 14, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus there is no other threat to draw players.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 14, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats the thing… other top lines always have a 1, 2 punch… Look at Ovie.. he’s got the pink shirted slap master Semin… Who is our other player that can capitolize on the best defender on the ice having to play gabby every shift? No one… Trade for Kovulchuk… We will be unstoppable.
by fromthe51hate on Jan 15, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not only Prospal
Just to beat the dead horse – AA has to play more at even strength. Even though he has no points in his last 12, he’s still 4th on the team in pts per 60. (that’s more likely an indictment on the rest of the roster, but nonetheless)
Higgins is below replacement level now….if you scratch him you kill his value entirely, but burying him on the 4th line could serve him some good (it woke up Drury at least)
Lisin, on a team with no offense spark, needs to be in the lineup. Stop pretending Brashear is an enforcer and sit his ass down.
Drury needs to be on the PP unit. Preferably Prospal-Dubi-Gaborik-Drury-MDZ, but at minimum the 2nd line with Cally and Avery (or on the point with Avery-AA-Cally up front).
These are not new problems of course, they’re simply highlighted by this week of nothingness.
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by RangerSmurf on Jan 15, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Putting Prospal back on the top line after missing weeks is stupid. He even said he was slow and not really back in game shape… Put him on the 3rd or 2nd line to let him get his legs back…Dubi, Christiansen, Gabby were playing very well… as my buddy said “I hate to do it…but I’m going to blame Torts on this”.
by fromthe51hate on Jan 15, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been all season
His player/line management has been terrible. There are a couple factors that don’t help though:
a) The roster isn’t built for Tortorella. There’s still a mix of guys that aren’t really good fits for this system (Kotalik is nice for a PP but he’s a mess at ES)
b) Dolan wants money. Playoffs = more money. Thus the team can’t play rookies 18-20 minutes a night if they’re not producing. They’re rebuilding while trying to be competitive, which leads to what you see….nights where they’re ok mixed with complete abominations.
Now, this doesn’t excuse everything, the Prospal thing and the Drury PP thing are head scratchers no matter what.
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by RangerSmurf on Jan 15, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you…
I’ve got to add lisen not playing as one of my big ???.
Torts knows there was only so much to do with this roster and he has modified his style of play with what he has, but it took way to long. He’s the coach not the GM. I blame Sather for not having the roster, but I blame Torts for not coaching the team he has. Its easy to coach a well built team of great players. I haven’t lost all hope in Torts yet… but I’m getting close.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a combination to me
There are certain things that are no one’s fault:
Higgins has 5 goals. Nobody could really see that coming. It’s not like he hasn’t had chances. Callahan has 4 ES goals. It’s nice that he’s cashing in on the PP, but he had 19 at ES last year. Avery has scored in 3 games. They’ve been dominant performances, but it’s a microcosm of the team’s inconsistency this year.
The biggest problem with the Sather signings this year (Brashear, Kotalik) is not so much the production but the price. At 1yr-1m, you can live with Brashear this year. At 2yr-5m, you can live with Kotalik (who is top 25 in PP points) But the unnecessary cap space chewing from those is deadly. (without even touching on the Redden signing).
And then you have the problems with Torts above.
They’re just a giant mess that a 8-1-3 streak + a superstar goalie have been covering up.
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by RangerSmurf on Jan 15, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your right and it is no ones fault (or everyone’s)…
But if most guys played better then expected and had personal records we’d all be praising torts. It is his job to get the most out of these guys and we can see that isn’t an easy task.
What is frustrating is when they start to look like they are coming together Torts shuffles the lines. Or if a working combination goes soft for one game, he shakes them again. Then you see him blaming the wrong guys and put struggling players on the ice night after night. For god sakes can we at least watch Lisen skate?
I know I’m ranting…
Thank god I’m going to the Wolfpack Saturday. I almost hoping I don’t get Pix ( I forgot to check) so I won’t have to stay up late watching the Ranger off the DVR when I get home.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the lack of scoring is brutal. we have 1 top line player and a bunch of 2/3rd liners. We have 1 solid shut down defenseman, and 1 up and coming future offensive deffenseman (that we can’ t count on yet because he’s only 19) and the best goalie in the league…the rest of the team…mehhh… Hey I like these guys most of them anyway…but there comes a time when you have to take stock and make some moves. Sather will of course move some of these guys for some old hacks and we will make it into the playoffs, get knocked out, and get to pick around the middle of the 1st round in the draft…yay!!
by fromthe51hate on Jan 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Mike Brodeur was challenged much. Henrick had a great game.
I herd the broadcasters say how good drury was playing but he gave away a bunch of crappy turnovers. Yes he went to the net hard once and drew a penalty and made some good passes. I didn’t see that he played all that great. He had 5 shots and awesome on facewoffs… ok so what?
I still don’t now why you don’t see Lisen?
As for Torts post game coments why doesn’t he come out and say Lunquist is the only guy consistantly playing well?
So much for a turnaround.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 14, 2010 11:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The last thing a coach wants to do when his team is struggling is separate the goalie from the rest of the team. Everyone knows he plays well. Torts knows it.
Lundqvist deserves a win every time he’s out on the ice. When the team in front of you can’t score, no matter how well you play, it will never be enough. Lundqvist is pissed. I feel sorry he has to put up with this, when he could easily have 30 wins right now.
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by rmc235 on Jan 14, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The team needs to stay together as a team… your right. The question was about if hank was getting frustrated because he was playing really good. It was a valid question.
But Torts was the one who brought up the seperation. He coulds have said Hank should be pruod of the way he played. He just didn’t want to deal with the question.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 14, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Drury/Lisin
Right on both counts CT rangerfan!
As for Brashear, I would hardly classify those bouts as “fights”, more like battle of the blades (but he’s no Dugay; he’s not even a Daneyko!) He barely through a punch in either go-round and both times was tossed to the ice like a rag doll. WEAK!
by PotvinSucks on Jan 15, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know some people will probably crucify me, but I really think we made the wrong decision in trading Gomez instead of Drury. Gomez’s biggest problem is he didn’t have any wingers close to keeping up with his speed, or wingers who played give-and-go. I really think having Gomez and Gabby together would have been dynamic in terms of give-and-go type play, especially on the rush (how many times the past couple seasons can we remember Gomez making a brilliant rush up the ice only to have his wingers slowly creeping up behind him). At least we’d have more team speed and puck transport. Now our rush consists of giving MDZ the puck and hoping Gabby can find a seam, otherwise we wind up turning it over.
There is no center on this team for Gabby. Not Dru, not Dubi, not Prospal. The same problem would happen if we got Kovalchuk. Who in the hell would he play with? Gabby? I doubt it would work, the the line would be a defensive liability. And I think that’s what we need to focus on, either through trade or FA, is a Tier 1 center for Gabby. Beginning of the season was an aberration. Now that teams are blanketing Gabby, our lack of playmaking around him has been horrifically apparent.
More to come.
by Caerid11 on Jan 14, 2010 11:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anyone would necessarily disagree with you, but you have to remember Gomez is making less money than Drury, and Drury has a no-movement clause.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 14, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
check your numbers, gomer makes more and maybe even more important he has two extra years on his deal.
by mleetch352 on Jan 14, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was glad we got rid of one of them. I don’t think ANYONE was willing to take Drury at his price
by CTrangerfan on Jan 14, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomez was not a disappointment either..
Why do people keep insinuating Gomez was a disappointment? His production was right on pace with his career average, perhaps even a little above. The truth is he was being overpaid for that production much like Redden and Drury are. Anyone who expected him to score 30+ was fooled by 1 unusual season.
by NYdemo on Jan 15, 2010 6:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree… but we had to many bad contracts. I posted right here that it was the best of them.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
salary less for the year, cap hit higher, my bad
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 15, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but does anybody really think if Sather had the balls (which are in a jar on Dolan’s desk) and said “Chris, we need cap space for a top-tier scorer, don’t feel you’re living up to your contract, and would like to move you to another team”, that Chris would have said no? Considering Drury seems to be the sheepish anti-press type I seriously doubt he’d want that type of negative publicity saying he negated a trade to clear space for a player like Gabby.
I just think we’d be in a lot better shape with Gomez offensively. Drury, in his current state, is an easily replaceable 3rd/4th line PK center who can win face-offs.
by Caerid112 on Jan 15, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree you could get him to waive the no trade clause… who wants him with the contract he has?
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wasting the kings talent ..
lundqvist wii never win the vezina on the rangers tonights game was a disgrace i mean what can torts really do he has no talent but gaborik and the king those are the only 2 players that throw there guts out on the ice night in and night out sather has to do something by the trade deadline we need another scorer i dont care if it is kolvachuck or some one else but we need a guy who can score because they are going to slip right out of playoff contention plus the fly guys are getting hot with a journey man goalie in leighton..
by lohaus#54 on Jan 14, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lunk and richter
I used to say the same thing about richter in the mid to late nineties. He was the only one trying out there and if he was on the Devils he would have won 3 more cups…
by NewburghHockey on Jan 14, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I love the Rangers
A small part of me kinda wishes he would get traded to a better team. It’s such a shame to watch the Rangers’ pitiful defense subject him to so many easy scoring chances. If Henrik was on the Devils, he’d probably have 2 or 3 Vezinas already.
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by Steeeve on Jan 15, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
soray!!!
We need to come to the conclusion that we won’t win the Stanley Cup this year; right? (anyone who thinks we will please speak up).
With that being said doesn’t it make sense to build our team for next year? I suggest we try to trade Redden and AA or Grachev to Edmenton for Soray and next year’s #1 draft pick.
Yes you loose AA or Grachev but you free up all of Redden’s contract and you may very well replace AA with a top pick in next year’s draft. Plus you would still have a veteren d-man.
It’s just a thought.
by NewburghHockey on Jan 14, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
only if we go into complete sell mode (prospal, higgins, maybe girardi) tanked the rest of the year to end up w 2 top 5 picks and i still wouldnt want to make the move until we knew what pick edm ended up w.
by mleetch352 on Jan 14, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NOBODY FREAKIN WANTS REDDEN!
I keep seeing trade proposals with Redden and Rozival in them. Are you kidding me?
I would assume that about 28 of the teams don’t want them at any price, and the other 2 or so certainly don’t want them at the cost they’re at now.
by old hickory on Jan 15, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got back from the game.
What a disaster. I think that second period undid all the goodwill generated from the Devils game all by itself. I felt terrible for Henrik.
by MatthewA on Jan 14, 2010 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tonights game was truly pitiful, Was anyone else disgusted to see Gaborik so lost/ out of position on Campoli’s goal?
by TheKING 30 on Jan 15, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
based on the postgame interview, Gaborik.
by mleetch352 on Jan 15, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course Brashear's "fights" didnt energize them
They were probably the 2 worst fights I’ve ever seen in hockey. Not a single punch was even thrown in the first “fight”. The second one was even lamer. You’re supposed to be this vaunted tough guy idol, yet you’re losing fights to some 29 year old career minor leaguer who played 2 NHL games before this year?
Thank you for further proving the incompetence of Glen Sather (if that’s even possible), you overpaid piece of shit.
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by Steeeve on Jan 15, 2010 2:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
why
isnt parentu playing on the rangers?—-offensively hes better than many of the try hard guys in the line up. does torts dislike him?
by frankblue on Jan 15, 2010 7:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
cant believe it
I seriously cant believe they fell for the trap game. its not even about the score, or the result.
ITS ABOUT THE EFFORT. i watched the first ten minutes of the game before i had to go and it was AWFUL. the sens had scoring chance after scoring chance. all the rangers did was pathetically dump and pathetically chase. cally had a couple of hits, after the puck had been moved. that was it. brashear SUCKS at fighting. got hip tossed after about 30 seconds of grappling. the worst part is, he didnt even start the fight to energize the crowd (which woudl have been commendable)… the other guy did.
seriously, pathetic. another timeout in the first 5 minutes? and torts went with the silent treatment technique, WHICH DOES NOT WORK WITH ADULTS. it just makes them feel sorry for themselves.
STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELVES, PICK YOUR HEADS UP, PRETEND THIS IS MARTY FCKING BRODEUR, GO OUT THERE AND PLAY YOUR @SS OFF. I HAVE FOUR LINES OF FORWARDS ON THIS TEAM – IF YOU ARE COASTING OR RINK TURNING, YOU WILL BE SITTING OUT. FIRST PERSON TO SCORE DOESNT HAVE TO TAKE PART IN THE MIRACLE STYLE 75 LAPS I HAVE PLANNED. I HAVE A SHTLOAD OF PROSPECTS IN HARTFORD – DO YOU THINK THEY WANT TO PLAY? THINK THEYD RATHER BE IN NEW YORK CITY PLAYING IN MSG OR IN FCKING HARTFORD???? PICK YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR @SSES AND GO OUT THERE AND PLAY LIKE YOU WANT TO BE IN THIS LEAGUE AND YOU WANT TO BE ON THIS TEAM. NOTHING ELSE IS ACCEPTABLE.
by LateralusRangers on Jan 15, 2010 7:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It appears Avery, Boyle, Lundqvist and Drury are the only ones on this team who give a hoot
Brashear’s ‘fights’ looked more like drunk posturing. The guy is so old and uncoordinated, his battles are more likely to inspire bowel movements than energetic play.
If you don’t finish checks, you don’t score. It’s that simple.
Campoli killed us when with the Isles, re: gritty play. It appears his memory is a good one.
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by pslieber on Jan 15, 2010 8:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Know what the worst part is? Brashier generated one of our best scoring chances and he’s worthless.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Dubi
He’s been one of the best Rangers since he came back from injury. And EC is playing for his hockey career, so he’s been trying too. And Cally.
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by RangerSmurf on Jan 15, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re:
I haven’t seen it mentioned much but I really like what I’m seeing out of Boyle lately. He’s been skating hard and hitting people. He’s pretty effective carrying the puck and using his body to shield defenders. I’d like to see him on the wing where he doesn’t have to take faceoffs though.
by J76 on Jan 15, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was at the game as well … I agree ottawas goalie didn’t have a tough night at all. Very few real scoring chances for us. We were outhustled all night. Avery was the one who shift after shift skated his butt off and was giving his best effort.
I’m a season ticket holder who lives in maryland so I don’t make it up to many games due to time issues. I am 1-5 in going to games this season. Won opening night and have seen losses to jersey, panthers, sabres, jersey and ottawa. Its completely pathetic at the overall effort (except for a few each night) this team shows. I don’t mind the 2.5 drive each way even if I see a loss when they play their asses off …
I now agree with the whole here … let’s start selling and getting draft picks
by NYR9320 on Jan 15, 2010 9:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I could have sworn the Rangers lost their opening night game :P
by Kritikal on Jan 15, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Opening night yes
Home opener, no. They beat ottawa 5-2 in the home opener.
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by RangerSmurf on Jan 15, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason I thought the first game was at home… I stand corrected. Just woke up recently, coffee’s not in my system, so my brain’s playing catch up xD
by Kritikal on Jan 15, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes thank you for clarifying … won our home opener :)
by NYR9320 on Jan 15, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hard to watch this team
ok lets recap the same old ranger story first thing love cali energy spark but same move down the boards chase the puck not enough skills good third line player needs to go dubi not a first line center trade him while he worth somthing kotalick garbbage enough said about him girarda does he have a slap shot or hes just gonna wrist the puck in the rest of his life pluse his over rated trade him too gilroy convert him to forward or trade him blowsitall can he out muscle anyone in the nhl and can he only slap the puck around the boards to the other teams redd what can i say now to avery like his fistiness but unless you score not worth keeping higgins just a wast of ice time so that leaves us with anisimov needs more ice time better players christenen which plays better the most rangers right now gabb that needs help with other scoring so teams dont cover him every shift stall and mdz doing good why cant we bring up hienikine or what ever his name is on d he has to be better the redd rozi and i think over rated girarada vinny at his price is worth keeping so to sum it up we have 2 guys worth keeping on d 3 to 4 forwards thank god for hank and the rest of the team is a 3rd line and minor leauge playeres birng up more kids trade off what we can get a good pick at the draft cause the team we have now really really sucks even a trade wouldent help this team
by nytrueblue on Jan 15, 2010 10:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Callahan is a ~20 goal level player who plays the 1st PK unit and is among the league leaders in hits and blocked shots among forwards. Yeah, he sucks.
Dubi – Here’s a list of people he’s outproducing at even strength so far, with harder quality of competition than all of them (pts/60 min of ice time): Zetterberg, Iginla, Toews, Savard, Boyes, Plekanec, Kessel, Hossa, Kopitar, Nash, Carter……. oh, and he’s among the best in the league on the PK this year. Yeah, this dude sucks too, get him out of here.
I don’t even need to read through the rest.
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by RangerSmurf on Jan 15, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey LateralusRangers, are you available for a coaching job?
I say get rid of Torts and make LateralusRangers the coach, just reading his post got me fired up!!!
Why don’t we have a pool set up for how many minutes these guys will go without a goal?
You can’t score on a minor league callup? Against a team with numerous injuries?
The jersey game was exiciting, this was pathetic. Another year of (maybe) sneaking into the playoffs and a first round wipe out.
The only thing that I have to look forward to is the guys who won the jr cup, but then again maybe Sather will trade all of them for that jerk in Atlanta!!
by brad_park on Jan 15, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone wants sather to go out and get scoring....
however is there any top tier teams in the league right now who have a chance to win the stanely cup with players the picked up on free agency? all the top teams have scoring from players they have drafted.. The closet thing you might be able to come up with is San Jose and the Dany Heatley trade but san jose had a solid team before that. how could you possible want to get rid of the heart and soul members of this team such as dubi, calli, and staal. There no player out there the rangers could pick up and make a stanley cup run with. I say play with the guys you have it you dont do well then the better are chances are of getting a higher draft pick…
by jwhit12 on Jan 15, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No no...that would be far too optimistic
everybody wants Sather FIRED….
but trading away prospects for veterans seems realistic enough!
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by feslenraster on Jan 15, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Redden
Last night was the first game I have gotten to watch in weeks, (thanks work) and Redden was worse then before. His passes are not crisp, there was one turnover at the blue line that was horrible. He almost seems to panic with the puck. This seems to trickle through the team. I really thought that when Torts came in the country club atmosphere for guys who are overpaid and not playing to their ability would be benched or removed from the team. Nothing..same old Rangers. No accountability amoung the guys who really need it. I know he benched Redden and Kotalik a few games back but here they are back in the lineup. And heck we knew Kotalik was a disaster 5 on 5, but he was brought in to work the point with that shot.
If we are going to play the rest of the season as a build to next year, play the kids. Let Sauer, Sags or Heik play on defense and learn. Bring up Corey Locke and see what he can do as a natural center.
Brashear has turned into a bad investment, money that could have been spent on secondary scoring or a punishing defensemen. You don’t need a high money shutdown guy, Staal is (has) become that guy. Just someone who will make a forward think twice about parking in front on the PP or running Hank. And please someone standup when Hank gets run. This team lacks a set.
by nomore1940 on Jan 15, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers lose two in a row, and everyone wants everybody fired or dead. I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a hundred times, there’s nothing like being a Ranger fan. :)
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No one dead. Mostly just Sather fired. And a few resignations for being to embarrass to wear the sweater.
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On some nights, the Rangers work hard and play good hockey. On other nights, most of the lineup does nothing and they pray that Henrik keeps them in the game. I think its that lack of effort that causes people to scream for people to be fired or traded. The last two games demonstrate that.
Most teams have a flat game once in awhile but the Rangers are really bipolar.
by J76 on Jan 15, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fire torts? what? pass it on? huh?
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by rmc235 on Jan 15, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d settle for a good old fashioned caning in Time Square. How about a stockade? Is that to much to ask?
by CTrangerfan on Jan 15, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You mean a pillory? A stockade is a fort…
by fromthe51hate on Jan 15, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I correct myself… The Stocks is slang for a pillory… But yeah…Put Sather in there!!!
by fromthe51hate on Jan 15, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
great research guys! good laugh :)
by #17ToTheRafters on Jan 16, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it starts at the top. we can complain about all these players but the truth is the ones we are complaining about were all brought in by sather. its not torts fault we have these players.
BUT it is his fauly when you have a line producing 1-2 goals a game for 6 games and you split them up. thats dumb. the first line should have been kept together.
prospal should be placed with aa and lisin to get a 2nd line that can score goals.
avery drury and cally should be the third line and shutdown the other teams 1st line
and higgins boyle kotalik should be the 4th line cause theyll get time on special teams
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 15, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sure :)
youngest nhl coach ever ;)
really its nard a hard concept but torts cant figure it out
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 15, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely agree about the line changes. it is dumb. jarret stoll was injured in LA for two weeks. he was playing on the first line before his injury. he then returned to play on the 4th line for 2-3 games because of that exact same issue. it only helps the player and the team. i think moshe gets the vote for coach here at the banter. maybe assistant to jim/joe since they have 1st rights. mleech gets the gm position. we’d have a hell of a team.
by #17ToTheRafters on Jan 16, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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