NHL Comes Down on Wisniewski with 2 Game Suspension
by Nick Montemagno on Oct 12, 2010 10:24 PM EDT
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PrintSo the reports out of the NHL offices this evening are that Islanders defenseman James Wisniewski will be suspended for two games without pay as a punishment for his "gesture" towards Sean Avery in Monday's matinee. I am not going to discuss the incident in depth, nor am I going to post a video of it because it is far too inappropriate for our younger readers to view, but all I am going to say is that the suspension was deserved. I am surprised, to be honest, because I really did not feel the league was going to come down hard on Wisniewski for what he did.
It was childish and makes the league look bad, so they are right in suspending him for it. Also, it prevents any further gestures of that sort from being used throughout the league in the future. I guess Wisniewski will use words instead of hands next time he wants to get a message across.
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I was laughing histerically during that on Monday afternoon. Avery’s reaction & postgame comments were good too.
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i was expecting them to split the difference between what they gave him and him getting off for free by giving him 1 game. I wonder if Avery blatantly calling the league saying he would get nothing had a hand in potentially bumping it from 1 to 2 games. It cant be because all the people in the arena were offended because there were only like 12 people there.
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by Michael Gleich on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
That’s a good point. Avery’s comment definitely could have had an impact on the final decision.
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by Nick Montemagno on Oct 12, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh no! The world’s going to end!!
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by Nick Montemagno on Oct 12, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
you are correct sir.
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 13, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just going to put this out there. Penalizing people for gestures and words is rediculous. Avery never should have been suspended for his comment about phaneuf and his ex-girlfriend, and wiz shouldn’t get suspended for his gesture. This is the nhl, not pee wee hockey. I’m sure if I did something like wiz did on one of my varsity sports teams I’d just get kicked out of the game with no further penalty. This is rediculous. Fined, sure. No question wiz should get fined, but it’s rediculous to suspend players for stuff like this and give people who throw possible career ending hits like matt cooke and Hjalmarrson’s recent concussion hit 1 or 2gm suspensions or even worse, no actions. Remember Cooke’s elbow that destroyed Savard last season and gaven him a concussion? No league action taken, and right now savard’s career might be over. The way the league deal’s with these things is a disgrace to the game.
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I don't necessarily agree
I think that this particular incident (and Avery’s as well) would have been a problem no matter what league it was in.
Now the Cooke hit is a different issue altogether, and I completely agree, the league’s priorities seem odd at best.
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 12, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently
It is considered ‘bad form’ to call someone a ‘cocksucker’ and mime the act of fellatio at someone. Is this the America I want to call home? NO SIR IT IS NOT!
Not nearly as bad as a ‘throat slashing gesture’ in my opinion, getting suspended two games is a little bit wacky for that, perhaps a fine would have been more appropriate.
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Maybe you should move to france then
Apparently, pantomiming fellatio over there is a sign of reverence. Or maybe that was curtsying? I dunno, try both and see what happens.
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 13, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and far too little deodorant...
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 13, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What I don’t understand is 1 game for a throat slash gesture and 2 games for a simulated sex act. In my book, threatening to kill someone is worse.
Wasn’t the throat slashing before they enacted that rule?
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Avery - a genius for instigation
I don’t know if Avery goaded Wisniewski into this ridiculous behavior but Sean has shown
a gift for getting opposing players to regress into stupid, self-destructive behavior. Just
ask Kovalchuk.
LOL
goaded…
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that they should have suspended him just for the unprofessionalism of it.
However the refs need to be more active in controlling this bs. Too often these things happen on the ice and refs do nothing. They stare at it and swallow their whistle. There is a reason there is an unsportsmanlike penalty on the books. I don’t want hockey turning into football or basketball with all of it’s showboating and bs that has nothing to do with the game.
I know some people will say the refs may get too involved if they are policing the players, but the ref looked at Wis and did nothing. The looked at two penalties on the Rangers and did nothing. Just once I would like a report from Cambell saying he has suspended a ref for negligence in doing their job. They refs need to be brought to task for their piss poor officiating.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Oct 13, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions
bettman is right, colin campbell is outstanding in his consistency
cammalleri gets 1 game for slashing niederreiter in the face/leg
wisniewski gets 2 games for an obscene gesture
matt cooke gets 2 games for putting savard on the shelf indefinitely
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Cooke wasn't suspended for the savard hit,
as weird as that is, it’s the truth.
Go isles or Go home.
Although I fully agree with you on the Cooke hit
it’s a grey area because at the time the hit wasn’t illegal.
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 13, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe, what did you think of the 2 games for the Hjalmarsson hit?
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by Michael Gleich on Oct 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Too Much by 2 Games
I know Buffalo says the puck wasn’t there but if you watch the video the puck was right there. I personally don’t think it was a dirty hit. It was on the shoulder. Was it a blind side hit? Yes, but the player should be aware of who is coming at him not looking at the puck.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Oct 13, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my biggest problem with the enforcement of the current boarding rule is it encourages players to turn their back on the opposition. They figure “if I get hit from behind it’s a penalty”. Now as I stated above the hit was to the shoulder so it shouldn’t have been boarding and the puck had just arrived.
This is the NHL Rule book for Boarding
41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks an opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to be thrown violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.
There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a vulnerable position and if so, he must avoid the contact. However, there is also a responsibility on the player with the puck to avoid placing himself in a dangerous and vulnerable position. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.
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This was just a hockey play IMOHO.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Oct 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d have to see the replay again, but I don’t remember Pominville turning just as Hjammerson went to hit him. Hjammerson never saw anything but Pominville’s back and since it’s common knowledge that hitting someone from behind will get you suspended, he shouldn’t have made the hit.
I understand your point about turning at the last second to draw the boarding penalty, but I don’t remember that happening in this case (again, could be wrong here). In general, however, I think fans are way too quick to blame the victim in many of these situations. Blame is never solely on one player and both are usually at fault to some extent, but you simply have to hold players accountable if you want to change behavior. Players do not police themselves, so NHL discipline is the only realistic route to changing players’ behavior and even that, I’m not sure it will be successful.
Agreed. I just don’t agree with the suspension. Pominville was backing up to play the puck. Hjamm hit him technically from the side even though Pom never saw him coming. I was always taught if you hit the guy from the side into the boards it is a legal hit.
Hjamm came in at about 45 degrees from behind the right shoulder and hit Pom in the back of the shoulder but the hips were parallel to each other. Pom was not “Thrown violently into the boards” in my opinion. Was it a hard hit yes. Could a ref in game call it a boarding without the benefit of replay yes. but I just don’t agree with the suspension.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Oct 13, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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