Dubinksy and Lundqvist Lead Rangers to 3-2 Win Over Chicago
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 1, 2010 10:19 PM EDT
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So we're the Stanley Cup Champs now, right? That's how this works?
Just twenty-eight seconds after Patrick "Cash Cab" Kane tied the game for Chicago, Erik Christensen put the Rangers back on top, and Henrik Lundqvist made it stand up and the Blueshirts sent ‘em home happy with a spirited 3-2 win over the Blackhawks tonight at Madison Square Garden.
The Rangers gave their star goaltender a rest tonight, Lundqvist only had to make thirty three saves in the game after making thirty six the other night in shutting out the Leafs. Hank has now won four out of his last five.
Brandon Dubinsky was all over the ice tonight, scoring his sixth and seventh of the year, with assists on both goals from Ryan Callahan and Artem Anisimov.
All in all a terrific win for the Rangers, who will face the red-hot Flyers on Thursday night in Philadelphia at the Core States Center First Union Center Wachovia Center Rocky Balboa Memorial Coliseum Wells Fargo Center.
Final Thoughts:
- Hank. Magnificient. He no longer "doesn't look right", so I won't say it anymore.
- Although they don't generate a ton of offense, it seems to me like every time the Avery-Boyle-Fedetenko line hits the ice, they change the flow of the game in the Rangers favor. To use a few hockey clichés, they are a "hard-working" "high-energy" line.
- Clalicata17 said in the game thread tonight that the Rangers are finally a team, and I couldn't agree more.
- I like the fight in this team, and I like the effort they are putting out every night. A young team needs to learn how to win, how to do the little things it takes night in and night out to win in the NHL. I think this team is getting there. Long, long way to go, but it has to start somewhere.
Finally, here is a video of the game-winning goal by Erik Christensen
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o sorry I didn’t see you did this already
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
jim deserves the multiple recognition for his outstanding stand-up abilities…
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 1, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Great win against a great young team
I can’t wait for Gabby, Drury and Prospal to get back. Even though we’ve been pretty good as of late, I think we would that much better with those three.
by The Last Shall Become First on Nov 1, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
so if the boys in blue play this good throughout the season but they dont make the playoffs…are satisfied with their effort and take it that it was a young team that actually started to play like a team?
I said that before the season. If the kiddies develop, and the effort is there, I can handle missing the playoffs, because I will know better days are ahead.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 1, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
someone call tom renney and tell him these bblueshirts are scoring 3.09 GF/G through 11 games.
(though his current team is sporting an equally impressive 3.11 average)
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 1, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Without much help from Gabby Prospal and Frolov
by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 1, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
fro looks like he could really use a natural goalscorer on his line. cough, cough
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 1, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I know he won’t shoot the freaking puck, if he plays like this on a one year (show my what you got) contract, could you imagine what he would look like on a 5 year deal.
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yeah he has been extremely hesitant shooting the puck. i really don’t get it, this is the same player with the wicked wrister that scored 30+ goals a couple of years ago and now he’s turned in to a complete scotty gomez.
i still think we need to see what he does when gabby comes back, we might be writing him off too early.
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 1, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing that pisses me off is he is not even skating hard (adressed in the gae thread) if he was busting his ass then I would not be as aggravated and the scoring will come but when he is chasing a dump in its like he is just gliding on his skates. I can’t stand when the problem is effort but it is Frolov so we knew this was a possibility.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
He’s Zherdev without the hands. The only time Frolov looks impressive is down low on the fore-check. He’s very strong on his skates and protects the puck well. The problem is his line mates aren’t exactly the ‘get to open space for a quick one-timer’ type, and Fro is just dreadful on the rush. He skates just like Redden-that slow, churning ‘I have cement blocks chained to my skates’ stride like any extra exertion will cause a massive coronary.
And I’ve said this numerous times- I don’t care who his linemates are-he’s here to provide secondary scoring, not mooch points off of Gaborik. I think I’d rather see Gabby play with Boyle/Prust when he comes back. Gabby doesn’t need a super-skill guy or great play-maker to score, just give him some responsible guys who can fore-check like mad and create space for Gabby to work.
Then put Dru with Fro/Avery, and White/EC/Fedo/Booger for a 4th line. Stepan needs to go to the AHL.
Zherdev is now on the 4th line for Philly.
Gabby would be awesome on a second line. The top line had all three stars last night so he’s not needed there. My personal opinion is the Rangers would be better with a balanced line set. A grinder, a shooter and a solid center and one of them has to be a defensive minded forward. Frolov doesn’t really strike me as a grinder and he’s not the shooter if he’s with Gabby. Put Gabby with Boyle/Prust or Dru/Avery/FedEx. I like Prust being on the line because he will open space by hitting anything that moves.
I disagree on Stepan. He always seems to be in the right place for the puck to find him. He’s not scoring but I think it’s cause the opposing defense knows to look for him now compared to the first few games. He made some really nice plays last night. It’s a good thing but if and when Prospal and Dru come back there are going to be some tough decisions on who sits.
Probably be a lot more selective as to whether Booger plays night to night. Prust is a capable pugilist and there are only a few heavyweights in the league willing to take on Booger. I know we need experience going into the playoffs, but right now I’m looking forward to all of these over 30 contracts to run out, except maybe Gabby if he can put up the points.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Nov 2, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Gabbys not over 30 years old, I think he’s 28
by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He just seems so much older than Dubi and Cally
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Nov 2, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Callahan, I love everything he does every night.
dubi, same
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
well dubi tkes bad penalties here and there
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
did you see him hit the “nitro” turbo switch in the 3rd period though? :)
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 1, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They do look like a team and they are finally gaining an identity. As much as I dont like him Eminger had a solid game tonight, and Sam and Joe said it, Torts likes him cause of his physicality aka “Jam”.
can they put this “Jam” in a jar and feed it to Frolov?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 1, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
all Frolov has to do is eat all of that and he’ll start potting a few pucks pretty soon lol
by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 1, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it maybe time to give torts some credit…this team seems to be developing quicker than we thought
by nutz_35 on Nov 1, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Agreed – any time a team can play that kind of helping tough defense the coach deserves some credit. They played a really responsible, strong game tonight that I was fortunate to be at. It was weirdly one of the quieter games I’ve been at, maybe because we play them so rarely it’s not like any rivalry has developed. Great win.
Agree with your comments, Jim.
(Jim-Jam….)
Anyway – my only fear is this – now that they’ve started to develop an identity – WTF happens to it when Gaborik, Drury and Prospal return ?
It’s a good problem to have – for sure – to see these guys stepping up and playing like a team – to see the emergence of Anisimov/Dubi/Cally, the Avery/Boyle or Stepan/Fedotenko line jelling ( or is that “jamming” ?) – all good things. I hope the return of the injured doesn’t screw it up.
Im worried about that too, especially with Drury because I don’t see him jelling with any of these lines.
by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 1, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
its funny that a healthy captain seems to pose a huge problem for the coaching staff…
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 2, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
Boogaard and White start sitting.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 2, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
brandon prust is now officially the new and improved version of freddy sjoestrom now that he’s on the PK as well. 100% heart and hard work. kudos to the guys from calgary that warned us we were gonna like him…
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 1, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
Got to love that kotalik got us Prust.
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oh yeah. straight out of a classic “fake sather-sutter” phonecall post.
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 2, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
last I checked, Higgins got us Prust… Kotalik got us a Jokinen rental… if you wanna look at it like that :P
both brilliant deals by master slats. did i just say that?
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 2, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t hurt to watch Dubinsky either.
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by Tripodi on Nov 2, 2010 1:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
boy the guys in hartford should be patting themselves on the back. who started calling this the pack line? i like it alot. the pack line.
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 2, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know if this is where it “officially” started, but as the season was starting there was discussion on SNYRangers.com about what the line should be called, with some polls and Twitter suggestions and the “Pack Line” won. I have since seen a few people drop thename here and on TSN boards. I think 2nd place may have been the “ABC Line”, which I have seen once or twice, but don’t like it.
We played Solid
I hope we can keep this up we played solid on D and shut them down in the neutral zone many times, which lead to the quick rushing up ice. This comes from an aggressive forecheck that forces there players to move the puck without time. Also our backcheck was strong as well to help create these turnovers.
It all comes down to work ethic though. The Rangers are playing hungry like a young team should, if they can keep up that energy and hunger I think we will be in for a pleasant surprise this season.
Have we switched to two chasers and the third forward sitting high? I think that it is a perfect forecheck pattern for us if I am looking at it correctly.
I love the Cally Duby AA line. Anyone notice how many faceoffs duby took? Wonder if he and AA are gonna be switched out. I think that this line is a perfect match to teams first lines. If we do this it will give Gabby more breathing room.
Sauer looks so solid as our 3rd pair D man. Eminger looks to be coming into a comfort zone and I would be very happy if he can keep playing the way he does. We had a very solid 3rd D pair this game and we havent had that in a very long time.
Unsure where Drury is gonna fit but our PK will be better with him besides that Im not seeing his return as a huge impact. Is Prospal coming back? If so matching Cally Duby AA line against the other teams #1 and putting Gabby Prospal and Frolov together against the other teams #2 or #3 line will produce some real good goals I feel.
Avery Boyle and Fedex looks great as well. Could be the best fourth line in the nhl and really look good as our #3 line as well. but Id rather put Grachev and Stepan on the third line to give them minutes.
When we are healthy I think we have to run four lines, I feel if we keep up the energy we have a good amount of competent players with scoring potential playing on our last two lines. Matching C-A-D against a top line is great they play shut down defensively well and can explode offensively given the opportunity. That never quit hustle they have (and its seems to be the most consistent hustle over the years) and the skill that they have they can be great shutting down top lines and chipping in ugly goals. This will give Gabby some more breathing room mostly being matched against #2 lines. Having a hard working center with Gabby and Frolov sitting infront of the net might be very successful. I also feel putting Prust with the two kids would be great. Prust is awesome and does all that ugly gritty stuff that the kids need to develop there games I feel (he was great with helping Arty look more comfortable last season). This leaves a fourth line with Avery Boyle and Fedex which could be a regular point producing line against other 4th lines.
I think when Gabby comes back the lines would be successful as
Duby-AA-Cally
Frolov-(EC, Drury, Prospal)-Gabby
Grachev-Stepan-Prust
Fedex-Boyle-Avery
We would need to run 4 lines because we have the potential. Also when we are all healthy we can start selling off some of the dead weight for some picks. EC Prospal and White might be leaving if we decide to keep Grachev and Stepan. I dont think we are sending Stepan back but if we send Grachev back, even though he is looking pretty good, we can keep some people but Im not sure that is a good idea. Prospal ideas are assuming he is actually going to come back this season.
assuming vinny is back in december the 1st 2nd line center race is really going to heat up!
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 2, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
When Drury ,Gabby, and Vinny come back, the lines should look like this assuming no injuries happen, which is always a possibility.
1a. Dubi-AA-Cally
1b. Frolov-Prospal-Gabby
3. Avery-Drury-Fedotenko/Christensen
4. Boogy/White/Christensen-Boyle-Prust
White, Boogy, or Christensen should be the scratch. Send Grachev and Stepan down to develop on the top line in Hartford a bit more, there is no use of having them play the 3rd and 4th line when we have vets who won’t make rookie mistakes, don’t have a bunch of pressure on them, and also won’t develop into anything a lot better. It would be better to have Grachev playing WITH Stepan on the 1st line down in Hartford, and they’ll both be 1st call ups for injuries or other reasons.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 2, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
or the next game
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 2, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 2, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions
Dude you are your ow worst enemy, Cash Cab stole the spotlight and outshined the rest of your post.
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This.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 2, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
a delayed +1
I laughed pretty hard at the Rocky joke, harder than cash cab, if that makes ya feel better, Jim!! But i was laughing from the first two lines, cuz it wud be awesome if we became the SC champs even for just a night
As much as I love this team, I have to admit that it is too early to be excited.
Yes, they had a great game yesterday (and 2-3 other games) but losing to weak teams is unacceptable and that seems to be a trend for this year. Beating elite teams by one goal is fine but teams like Atlanta, Islanders, Carolina need to be blanked every time they play them.
Another concern is Lunqvist. Sorry, but the guy is not a back up for our defence this season as he was in previous seasons.
The Cally-AA-Dubi line reminds me Zherdev-Dubi-Voros line a couple of years ago. They started very aggressively and then lost their confidence for some reason. Let’s hope Torts will handle the issue.
I agree that Stepan and Grachev need to go to AHL to sharpen their skills. We cannot afford rookie mistakes, otherwise we will end fighting in shootouts for the 8th place again.
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I don’t think people should get to excited or too upset game by game. What is the problem with Lundqvist, the Kane goal? Are 5+ unconscious games undone by one boneheaded goal in your book? I was pissed when it happens but got over it quickly.
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+1
I think the saves he made in the last 2 minutes offset the weak goal. And besides they responded ASAP to the weak goal. That’s picking up your goalie that otherwise gives the team a chance to win almost every night he’s in net.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Nov 2, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
you know lundqvist sometimes lets in those types of goals but before previous teams would just kinda crumble and progressively play worse…but last night christensen’s goal i think restored some of lundqvist’s faith into this team…for once henrik was backed up for making a mistake and it wasn’t the other way around…and thats why i partly think henrik had such a great end to the game on top of the fact he’s such a great goalie
In fairness, Dubi has grown as a player since then, Calli has proved his worth over the years that he is far more effective than Voros can ever dream of, and Anisimov has shown that he is not likely to drift like Zherdev. I still think this is more of an ideal #2 line, and we won’t have a true #1 line until Gabby returns, Frolov plays up to his talent and a center, be it Stepan, Drury or Prospal steps up to that role. But this is a far better line than the old Voros-Zherdev line.
Artie is willing to go to the dirty parts of the ice much more than Zherdev ever did. He has no qualms with trying to take the puck into the middle and sacrifice his body to make a play.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
i naively picked up nik as a 5th or 6th rounder expecting the good that we saw as ranger fans, but forgot the flyers are a physical team and Z is….well…
by #17ToTheRafters on Nov 3, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant believe your comparing AA, Dubi, Cally line to Voros? Zherdev?? Seriously dude???
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by 76 Blueshirt on Nov 2, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not comparing each player’s individual skillset, I am comparing start of the season as a line. Not sure how many points Voros-Dubi-Zherdev scored in the first 11 games but it was plenty, I believe.
My point is if Cally-AA-Dubi line stays consistent at least till the all-star break then I have no problem with this line. If their productivity declines for some reason, then it would be a replication of the Voros-Dubi-Zherdev line two (or three) seasons ago.
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Excitment and just proof that when you go with your farm system
Finally the organzation is heading in the right direction. CAL, Dub AA areproof that when you stick with a plan and do not derail the plan by bringing in over paid players does not build you to pathway to becoming a champship team.
Also, good points on bring down Stepan and EG down to Harford for top line minutes but they are obtaining the taste at the NHL level and will be fully intergrated into the culture of the establishing locker room and their role. By 2012 we should half the team a product of the draft, coaching and becoming part ofthe identity the team is beginning to establish. Very exciting to watch..we all as fans deserve this=)
Also, good points on bring down Stepan and EG down to Harford for top line minutes
Except that given the Hartford coaching staff, the two would be lucky to see 3rd line minutes in HFD.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 2, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Step should only go down if he doesn’t play up to a top 3 line role. Otherwise, he is as likely to be stunted in Hartford as he is to grow in Hartford. He’ll learn far more as a #3 NHL center than as a #1 AHL center.
The same in theory goes for EG, but I have less faith that he will genuinely earn a top 3 role by the time Dru and Prospal are healthy (and assuming noone else gets hurt in the meantime).
I've got no problems
With Stepan seeing less ice time. He’s taken a dip in performance after the first few games of the season. He’s playing a lot on the outside of the ice and while I think he’s been unlucky to bury a few chances the past couple of games, he isn’t making a ton happen with setting up plays either. He still works well at both ends of the ice, but they limited Artie’s ice time last year and even if he sat he got to observe the NHL game for an entire year. That plus he put in a ton of work to get stronger (as Stepan should too) and not only is he keeping up with the game better, he’s really excelling at his role.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Nov 2, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Hes also had less ice time the last few games to be able to create chances, and bury them.
by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 2, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
People probably know that I’m not a big Grachev fan, but I actually don’t think he’s hurt us…and sometimes that’s as important as not “helping” us when the rest of the team is clicking. He’s a big body that slows down the opposition. Perhaps he’s been learning how to change his role and style down in Hartford…which would make a lot of sense. Could it be that the team is identifying niches and actually shaping players into what they want them to be for the overall success of the club? I heard Torts and Sather say something like this about Boogie.
See, I can adjust my views.
Grachev is much better then boogey to me. Grachev looks like he can probably make something happen on the ice. We need boogeyman for heavyweight matchups and that is about as useful as he gets but changing him out with Grachev for every other occasion sits fine with me.
Did anyone see how Pronger towered of dipietro after the briere incident?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymh_CrQyvR4
For the time being at least this is why Boogie is here. Can you imagine if that punk Briere pulled that shit on Dubi?
No way.
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