Can these deals work?

why would any of these teams make any of these deals? I really dont think any teams would consider him anything more than a decent 3rd pair or 7th defenseman with just a little bit of upside. None of those teams would have any use for Frolov, if they wanted him they coulda went after him as a FA this offseason and hes been a complete dud this year so his stock has only dropped.

The only way any of these deals would work is if the other GMs are all on crack

Not to beat the dead horse, but none of these trades other than possibly #1 have a chance in hell of going through. I understand how important first round draft picks are, but you can’t give up spare parts for top line talent without throwing in first rounders. Look at what it took to get Kessel.

If Gilroy can barely crack the roster on the Rangers, what do you think his trade value looks like right now?
Grachev looks promising, but still needs to improve on a few things. He’s young and has time. I wouldn’t give up on him yet, but if it’s to get top line talent, he’s a casualty of doing business.

White looks like he has some use. I don’t see anyone giving up even a fourth round pick for him at the deadline. Don’t see any team in the league that can use him unless they lose 2 centers for a while.

Enough’s been said about Frolov already. I’m sure GMs know how he’s playing right now, and won’t get much trade value until he offsets this drought he’s in.

Rozy will have some trade value because he’s at the tail end of a front-loaded contract, mainly to teams running on a limited payroll beneath the cap. He won’t net us as much as most of us may think, but something is better than nothing.

1: Could work.
2: Swap Gilroy with Sauer and throw in a first and maybe a third.
3: Keep dreaming. I know about the off-ice issues out there in Dallas, but they’re not fools (e.g. Gainey, Sutter).
4. Remove Gilroy, throw in a first, and possibly another draft pick, and that only gets them to start haggling.

So many people have blue-tinted glasses when it comes to trade ideas that they can’t look outside the box. You can’t give our scraps for talent without giving away at least 2 of your top-5 prospects on EL deals and/or first or second round draft picks.

In the perfect dream world we win the cup every year by trading Redden for Ovechkin straight up, but this is reality. If you picture yourself being the other team’s GM, is there even a chance in hell you don’t hang up the phone on Sather and have a good laugh while telling your staff about the guy that just called you that must have been high on several things at once thinking you were dumb enough to even remotely consider the idea of the trade you just proposed?

Sorry, sleep deprived and ranting a bit… will leave it at that and hope things don’t get out of hand. Good night.

Deals 2 and 4 are laughable. The single funniest thing here is the idea behind #1, however—Frolov and Gilroy aren’t worth two second-round picks by themselves, tossing in a player puts this proposal into video-game fantasyland.

Got to agree with NYR521 here—the only way any of these deals get done is if Sather starts selling crack and LSD to the GMs of these teams before calling them to talk trades.

What is the point of a post like this, except to get the old scorn generator working?

I think these trades work in NHL 2011 much more than they work in real life. I am not convinced Matt Gilroy has a lot of trade value, Todd White has zero trade value (too old, contract is much too high at nearly 3 million), teams that have a pending UFA wouldn’t want to trade him away to get Frolov who is going to be a UFA.

I don’t see any of these working out.

I think these trades are all laughable, no chance anything like any of that happens.

Gilroy, Frolov and White have no value at all. They will all be UFAs at the end of the year and have underperformed so far.

Why would the other team do any of these deals? It is our scrubs for real good players., lets say Frolov got hot, he still is an UFA so why would a rebuilding team like Ed trade us Whitney for the rights to gilroy and 2 2nd round picks?
The Dallas trade- those players would not even get us Neal but Dallas is going to throw Robidas what to be nice guys?
And the Weber trade, I am just going to leave that alone
These trades make no sense imo.

these trades just wont work.. think of it from the other teams point of view..

would u really give up shea weber and a 2nd round pick for gilroy grachev and rozi?

i sure as hell wouldnt..

one has a chance of going through, but the rest.. no chance..

dan. if you were the thrashers gm, would u legitimately give up byfuglien, ladd, and a 3rd round pick for white, (who they traded to us for brashear and rissmiller and than waived brashear.. also is an aging guy with an expiring contract) frolov, (expiring contract) and gilroy (a 25 some odd year old with some promise but is a big question mark?

since frolov is a ufa and they could just sign him at the start of the season. there pretty much giving up big buff, ladd, and a pick for gilroy… come on..

gilroy frolov and a 3rd round pick to edmonton for dustin penner .

Let me help you out:

No.. no.. no.. aaannndd… no.

No.. no.. no.. aaannndd… no.Man, you really, really hate Gilroy, Frolov and White don’t you?

Can we please stop the “trade our useless trash, our disappointing projects and AHL prospects for other team’s all-stars?” It’s becoming nauseating how absurdly one-sided all of these ‘trade proposal" posts are becoming. You guys are like the Chico Resch’s of trade proposals. Stop.

Which isn’t very possible. The 4th one if FAR from ever happening, same with the 2nd and 3rd deal. We really need people to not be biased when posting trades here.