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Cap Misinformation

Something that I've seen here, and at countless other hockey web sites/blogs/forums, and that has been "generally accepted" as accurate, is the "Over 35" Contract Rule. This has been a hot topic lately due to the status of Donald Brashear.

Well, I happened to be reading some of the information over at Andrew Gross' "Ranger Rants" (Link) where he indicates that he received information that is contrary to the "generally accepted" stuff.

What's been "generally accepted" - and repeated by any number of us based on hearing it from "hockey insiders" and experts? Basically, that when a SPC (Standard Player Contract) is signed by someone after they've reached their 35th birthday, that essentially their salary and cap hit remain with the club, even if they retire, are waived, demoted to the AHL, etc. etc.

So, based on the information in Gross' article, I decided to go digging through the NHL/NHLPA CBA document.

Lo and behold - there it is - buried (twice actually) in different sections of Article 50.

Details after the jump...

Star-divide

Here's a photo/snip of 50.2 (c)(iv) - found on Page 190 of the CBA:

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So - we've all been led astray - and have been leading others astray like lemmings.

Look at the first 3 lines:

....by a Player who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was signed when the Player was age 35 or older...

Since Brashear is in the 1st year of a multi-year SPC, his entire cap hit is removed when he is sent to the AHL this year.

If this were next year - since he would be in the 2nd year of the contract - only $100k would be removed from the cap hit.

Nothing like going straight to the source. Proves yet again that just because "Joe Expert" says something doesn't make it true.

~dbmaven~

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On the Rangers Telecast tonight vs. the Pens, Sam Rosen reported that Brashear had cleared waivers and would be assigned to Hartford.
As soon as that happens, his cap hit is removed.

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by dbmaven on Feb 13, 2010 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

But even if he retires or is waived next year we still have the cap hit no matter what. That’s what I was told, and if that is true it sucks.

by xcdudesquad on Feb 13, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Retirement is a murky area. The way this section reads, if he were to retire now (or in the off-season), there would be no salary paid or cap hit next season.

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by dbmaven on Feb 13, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

maven whenever im confused about anything hockey ill make sure i come to u

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 13, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

This "Joe Expert" you speak of ....

Blueshirt Banter: Covering the New York Rangers the only NHL team with three home arenas.

by Joe Fortunato on Feb 13, 2010 7:20 AM EST reply actions  

No relation to Joe Fortunato….

BlueshirtBanter - beating up reporters at bus stops since 1994

by dbmaven on Feb 13, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha, that was my first thought. That should be your nickname.

by XLII on Feb 13, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

when talking about brash cap hit has always been on next year as we are 2/3rds into this one, but i guess i will ask anyway. going to hartford now saves the rangers approx 4-500K this year but since he would have to be waived again next year in the 2nd year of his deal wouldnt they still be on the hook for the 1.4 mil? minus the 100K of course.

by Michael Gleich on Feb 13, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

just clarifying that what you said about next year is still the case regardless of what was done this year.

by Michael Gleich on Feb 13, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Next year, if he’s still under contract to any team (i.e. if he’s traded) then his full salary and cap hit applies. If he’s waived, clears, and is assigned to the AHL, the cap relief is only 100k.

And as I’ve been saying elsewhere, if he’s waived, clears, and then is loaned to another organization (like the KHL, for example), and that organization pays his salary, the NHL club is free and clear of all obligations including the cap hit.

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by dbmaven on Feb 13, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

obviously in the loan case, but if he retires from Hartford at the end of the year you think we would be off the hook for the 1.4 mil which would be another case of Slats getting lucky and bailed out.

by Michael Gleich on Feb 13, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

to which we all have to ask WHAT THE HECK took so long to waive him this year if he is so concerned about the cap, lol.

by Michael Gleich on Feb 13, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Makes it all the more interesting – doesn’t it.?

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by dbmaven on Feb 13, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

this is awesome

presumably, he won’t even want to be here next year.
Don’t think he’ll retire – he still thinks he can play… but maybe some team will pick him up on re-entries, or he’ll go to Russia.
Now we just need to hope and pray.

This makes me more comfortable with the Shelley move… just a little.

by j-red on Feb 13, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

Brashear wants to go the the KHL...

I think it was from here i found a link (but i could be wrong) to a russian news article interviewing Anisimov and Lisin. In the interview they started talking about Brash. They said he has books and CDs for learning Russian and that he’s already learned some and is interested in going to the KHL.

hopefully he’s found some KHL sucker to buy/borrow him before next year.

by teknics_rx7 on Feb 13, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

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