Olympic Hockey Sunday Preview and Open Thread
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:00 AM EST
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PrintA great day of Olympic hockey lies ahead. I for one will be in the recliner with donuts and nachos within reach. 
Here is a preview of the games for today, and then feel free to use this as your open thread for all games today. (Previews courtesy of CTV.ca)
Russia v. Czech Republic
3 p.m. (EST)
The records: Russia (1-0-0-1). Czech Republic (2-0-0-0)
What's at stake: First place in the group and an automatic berth in the quarter-finals, which Russia can manage only with a three-point win in regulation, which would give it seven points and leave the Czechs with just six. Borrowing an expression from soccer, this was viewed as the Group Of Death because it included three traditional powers, none of whom like each other much, the Russians, Czechs and Slovaks. Slovakia threw a monkey wrench into the works by upsetting Russia in a shootout, which has opened the door for the Czechs to possibly go a perfect 3-0 and earn a top-three seed.
Who to watch: With a who's who of brilliant talent on display, who wouldn't you watch? But the chance to see a 38-year-old Jaromir Jagr, still capable of individual brilliance, is not to be missed, just in case this is his last hurrah. Jagr's counterpart with the Russians is Sergei Fedorov, who left the NHL last season to play in the KHL, but was one of the most decorated players of his generation and the first Russian player ever to win an NHL MVP award.
Canada v. USA
7:30 p.m. ET
The records: Canada 1-0-1-0, USA 2-0-0-0.
What's at stake: First place in the group and an automatic berth in the quarter-finals, top spot in the group and a chance to avoid the pitfalls of the new qualification round introduced by the IIHF for these Olympics. Canada trails the U.S. by a single point under the scoring system that awards three points for a regulation win, but only two for an overtime or shootout victory. But Canada can leapfrog the U.S., even by winning in extra time, because if both teams finish with seven points (a possibility), Canada would get the nod on the basis of its head-to-head record against the Americans.
Who to watch: For Canada, the greatest chemistry thus far has been demonstrated by the San Jose Sharks' trio of Dany Heatley, Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau. Heatley may have alienated fans in Ottawa and Edmonton because of his wish to play elsewhere, but he does possess magic hands and an uncanny ability to help Canada at the international level. The Americans' most underrated player thus far has been David Backes of the St. Louis Blues, who adds a level of physical play to a club that is undersized compared to Canada. Backes appears to have the skill set to morph into the NHL's next dominating power forward.
Sweden vs. Finland
12 a.m. ET
The records: Sweden 2-0-0-0. Finland 2-0-0-0.
What's at stake: First place in the group and an automatic berth in the quarter-finals. The tournament schedule was set up so that any barring major upsets, the final games in the preliminary round would determine the group winners. This match-up followed the script, as both traditional Scandinavian rivals brushed off the opposition fairly easily to get to this point. Sweden won the last match-up between the two teams, which just happened to be the Olympic final in 2006.
Who to watch: The Finns' dynamic duo of Teemu Selanne and Saku Koivu are both playing in the Olympics for the final time and would love nothing better to add a gold medal to silvers won in Turin and bronzes in Nagano. Sweden's Peter Forsberg was one of the NHL's dominant players of his generation and after making an unexpected comeback with his club team from eons ago, Modo, made the Olympic team and provides necessary leadership to a skilled team in the midst of a generational transition.
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by Nick Montemagno on Feb 21, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions
I’ve been looking forward to this day – all three matchups should be very intense. I’m particularly excited to see Jagr vs. Ovechkin.
Thinking ahead, when Canada plays Russia, that could be the single greatest collection of hockey talent every to play in a single game.
I have a feeling USA could pull off an upset.
this US team could really surprise a lot of people because there really isnt any pressure on them they have nothing to lose if they win its a massive upset if they lose its expected because they arent as talented…all they need to do is go out and play a solid game…and have canada deal with their rabid fans
Slow down boys...............team Canada is STACKED!!!!
Gold is inevitable.
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
i never said that they're gonna win
im just saying that they can…and that they dont have any pressure on them to win or not as much as canada does
The USA is playing with house money. You can see how stiff the back bacon eaters are with their unexplainable egg they laid against the Swiss. However, they are more familiar with the US players and they are setled in now. The pressure from their countrymen to perform is nothing like anything the US team has ever felt in any sport. Don’t give me the Mens’ basketball team. Hockey players care. World Cup soccer teams are the only thing comparable and that still does not include the US.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the expression playing house money. It is used by media and people
who don’t actually play sports. No athlete would EVER go into any game thinking “it’s okay, we are playing with house money tonight”. They play to win. They don’t care Canada is the favorite. The US team 100 percent wants and expects to win. None of this house money bullshit. Otherwise why even compete? Maybe to the media this is the case, but it absolutely is not the case for anybody who is playing for team USA. No real competitor ever thinks it is okay to lose a game because nobody expected you to win in the first place.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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What I meant was the pressure is on the Canadiens. You don’t know me or my past in sports so don’t get personal. One reason I like this site is the civility and respect people show others. Please keep it that way. I’ve been in plenty of games where there was no pressure on my squad. Win or lose we are in the next round. Win or lose our metal hopes don’t ride on this game. Playing with nothing to lose is how our own squad is describing their chances.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
in some ways medal hopes do have an impact on this game cause playing a team like the 8/9 winner or 7/10 winner is a lot different than ending up 4th or 5th and getting Sweden/Finland/Czechs next.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
why arent they showing it?
the russian game is on now,and they said itll be on in 3 hrs!!! wtf
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It’s on NBC where I am.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I HATE NBC - they F*CKING SUCK
Once again, screwing over hockey fans on the west coast. So happy I get to watch guys on skis shooting at targets. NBC has completely botched the sh*t out of these Olympics from this hockey fan’s perspective, on many levels.
dont forget mike green on that list of sucking right?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
NBC and politically correct TV
It was almost like they were told to cool it. They are not doing the period in between segments and they were both subdued. Besides the great hockey JR bashing that moron Milbury was my favorite part of the coverage. I smell corporate meddling.
Omg, wasn't it?
That is one of the best hits I have ever seen. First of all, it comes from a superstar goal scorer, second of all, it is hard enough to hit Jagr in open ice, third of all, he put Jagr onto his ass, and Jagr is ridiculously strong. Wow. I can’t believe that I just saw that happen.
Wow. My word. Alexander Ovechkin is a bad, bad man.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
not to mention after the hit it was Polak’s obsession first with looking to run ovie and then with where he is in the offensive zone that let the pass get all the way across to malkin for the goal.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
That hit on Jagr is why Ovie is a better player than Crosby….besides being a better skilled player than Cindy………Cindy never makes that hit and never changes the complexion of the game, never scores that goal. You know Malkin is saying….man i wish I could play with Alex everyday
+1 hundred million
You said it. Crosby is known for his offense. Ovechkins offense is better. And he does what we just saw. Just unreal.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
i would also argue that it is a reason why a player like kovy as offensively talented as he is shouldnt be paid what ovie gets because he doesnt impact the game in as many facets as ovie can. in the 3 games to me kovy has been pretty invisible.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Last time Swden played Finland was in the World Championship… wich they also won (they won gold in both the WC and Olympics the same year)
ur about 7 hours early to worry about the swe/fin game, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
It’s never to early to worry about games against Finland.
I hate time difference.. when this game begins it’s 06.00 in the morning here… and a monday to make everything worse..
understood. should be a really good game. i think the fins have been the best team so far in the tournament thru 2 games for all the contenders.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sather?
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by George E. Ays on Feb 21, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
nah he would have guessed derek morris.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
if the other 2 are like this one, it will be an unbelievable hockey day if only nbc had the guts to show all 3 on the “big” network and actually grow hockey. i think that the lousy coverage venues for hockey in this tournament is only hurting the chances of olympic hockey with nhl players in 2014.
That would have been awesome
But unfortunately we have hockey on MSNBC or the Curling National Broadcasting Channel….
I’m just glad I get MSNBC in HD
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oddly enough I get CNBC in HD too
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
maybe i do and havent looked for it, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
ha, i do and didnt know it, i mean who watches the stock market in hd?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I know its weird the channels they include in HD packages, and the ones they don’t.
Like the local Fox Sports, that I don’t get in HD, go figure
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
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by Nick Montemagno on Feb 21, 2010 6:21 PM EST reply actions
Ranger chatter
I know we’re on a break but I can’t help think about the next Ranger game. I’ve got big expectations for at least a solid effort from our team down the stretch.
A few things, I know Prust just got here – but for him to be considered Sean Avery like is a bit of an overstatement, haven’t seen it.
That brings me to my next point/question, what the heck is wrong with #16. Where’s that edge? I know he has it and it’s no excuse to not bring it every night no matter the circumstance – but… I think Torts dogs him all the time having him on that BS line with Voros and Boyle, etc. That’s just not playing to Avery’s skills. I don’t know.. maybe it’s deserved. Thoughts?
Anyway, good to be here. I’ve been reading the boards daily for sometime now. Finally got around to posting.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions
Hi there IAMARANGER16, welcome!
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
I love those USA jerseys, they look very familar :)
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions
can someone explain the quarterfinal qualifying / bye scenario? Still not clear, just like the whole curling scoring sometimes
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions
top 4 teams go straight to the quarters, the next 8 play in a typical 1v8 and so on scenario and then it goes into a normal bracket i believe.
i would rather they just dropped the worst 4 now and let the top 8 be the quarters from the beginning.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
but that would be the american way. they have something against that.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
12 teams are broken in to 3 groups of four teams each.
Each team will play 3 preliminary games.
AFTER that, the top four teams based on standings points (teams earn 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points OT/SO win, 1 point OT/SO loss, 0 points regulation loss- like the NHL there are no ties) will be ranked and given byes into the quarterfinals. The tiebreaker for tied teams is goal differential, which is used at all IIHF tournaments (FIFA also uses goal differential in major tournaments, the IRB uses bonus points for scoring tries, so this idea of rewarding offence is not unique to hockey), which is why you’re seeing teams continue to try to score goals even with the game’s outcome decided.
The remaining 8 teams are ranked 5-12 and play each other…5 plays 12, 6 plays 11, 7 plays 10, 8 plays 9.
The four teams that win play the four teams given byes in the quarterfinal round based on the following:
- seed plays the 8/9 winner
- seed plays the 7/10 winner
- seed plays the 6/11 winner
- seed plays the 5/12 winner
As an example…after the first set of preliminary games, Canada would be seeded #1 overall because they have 3 points (tied first) but have a +8 goal differential. Russia would be seeded #2 with 3 points and a +6 goal differential, and Finland would be seeded #3 because of a +4 goal differential (there’s a glut of teams on 3 points with a +2 goal differential).
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
jim do you know if the 3 group winners are the auto top 3?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
good evening boys!
i got a feeling about cally tonight. he’s going to have a good game.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions
Can we sing the Rangers goal song when USA scores? Seems fitting against Martha
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions
no we want the one or two seed so we can avoid all the other medal teams til the quarters.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
It’s kinda funny how many Devils alumni are involved in that goal, LOL
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:47 PM EST reply actions
can we sign Jagr after Omsk gets eliminated from the playoffs? Is that even possible.. pipe dream I know.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 7:49 PM EST reply actions
yes it is possible, unlikely but possible.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well theoretically speaking, how would that work, would he just get a pro-rated salary for the remainder of the season that would count against the cap?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
right they could call it a 5 mil salary for the 30 days or whatever would be left and he would count approx 800K on the cap.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
think of it like the cap hit for taking a player after a trade.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
good point
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
No but you make an interesting point on a larger scale. Guys are playing for their countries, but they also have to be mindful of what is best for their team when this is all over in a week.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
right, like langenbrunner not pressuring marty playing the puck but going to the corner to retrieve it off the boards.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t the case on the second goal. Langenbrunner was all over the crease.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
going to the front of the net and attacking the goalie behind the net are different.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
I never understood it, but I guess this is better than the “worst lead in hockey” 2-0. lol.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions
never lacks effort though
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
What a great deflection
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
he’s from the acceptable Canadian gene pool
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:00 PM EST reply actions
not til the nhl starts again he isnt.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Missed the pregame meal maybe?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
he hasnt been good the last month either, but they werent going to do what they should and go with luongo.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
NICE!!!!
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM EST reply actions
his little kick save attempt isn’t quite as fast as it used to be
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM EST reply actions
really, was there a debate in canada about the whole marty/luongo thing?
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions
doubtful but based on recent play there should have been.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
i would personally pick luongo, but i’m not objective. glad they picked marty though. makes it much easier to dislike’m
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
also helps us that babcock is having his own torts moment in not splitting nash and cindy but moving iginla instead.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
this period is moving along quickly.. very few stoppages
*Sam and Joe’s famous last words
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions
so I’ve crunched this standings thing, a win in regulation and we’re guaranteed at least the 2 seed. Then it depends on the FIN/SWE game since the Fins would have us in goal differential. Big difference in the level of competition to the medal round.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions
but I guess since you’d play the winner of the 5/12 or 6/11 and it doesn’t reseed, you never know who you’ll draw
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions
no if ur the 1 seed u play 8/9
2 seed plays 7/10
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
my fault, still good I guess to get a 8-10.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:12 PM EST reply actions
well for my money there are 7 teams that could medal in the tourney
US, Sweden, Finland, Canada, Russia, Czech, Slovakia…so if we can avoid them all til the semi’s great for us.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
do me a favor and hit that reply button, thanks.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
gotcha, so it stays in the group. Just figuring it out.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
no biggie, we all learn at the start.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
common mistake, no worries
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
There has been some good hitting in this game
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions
was the AVERY RULE applied to Olympic competition?
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions
so I don’t screw this up again, when do you hit “reply” and when do you just start a new one?
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
easy, if you are responding to a comment by someone else, you reply. If its a new thought, you start anew
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
if ur talking about the same topic you reply vs starting a new thought i guess, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
just dont teach him about ur dots, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
my fault boys, it just looked weird on the screen… thought i was doing it right.. anyway, thanks for a little patience.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of a gut.. I just read today that your boy Swish lost 15 pounds. Now he’ll be able to rock a whole new level of groupies
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
lol!
Well..Swisher is not my boy, but I suppose that’s a good thing.
He can shop at the steakhouse in the stadium if he needs to adjust his weight.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure who’s idea it was to start a hockey game in North America at midnight EST, but it seems like an odd decision to me.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions
well not much else they could do unless they played them immediately back to back, right?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t they empty the place and refill with new fans. I don’t think your ticket is good for more than one game
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn’t the games have started a little earlier today?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
well they had the 3 pm game, 12 there.
bigger audience for the “primetime” game at 730
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
but even then 3 ends 5:30-6, empty the place and refill 730.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I guess, but it seems awful dumb to me to have a good matchup like Sweden-Finland at Midnight, when almost no one will be watching
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
well they should have set the schedule so one of the games today was primetime yesterday.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
the entire olympics is running on a non TV friendly schedule. NBC seemed to only care that skating was in primetime and forget everything else.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
well what time is it back in Scandinavia? Maybe that’s why?
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
PST time they played at noon 4:30 and 9 PM. Works for them. Still better than if it was in Europe and we all would be getting up at 3 AM to see this.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
hard enough to make it though a west coast Ranger game… and this result means even less
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
and it lead directly to a goal that made it 3-1.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
was Ovie’s hit on Jags the hockey equivelent of getting posterized?
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST reply actions
worse cause it wasnt just two points but probably the game it decided.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
who is our #1 enemy/rival right now?
It’s gotta be Ovechkin
Brouder a close 2nd / maybe Crosby?
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:26 PM EST reply actions
being up 3-1 in that series last year left a mark.. and everything he does against us since.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
It’s Brodeur until he retires, then it’s Crosby
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Fatty #1
Crybaby #2
Ovechkin is a distant third to me because I love his game.
The fairy Malkin is my 3rd.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of the time for the games and such, yet another reason i dont see the nhl going to the olympics in 2014. they arent getting top network coverage so the reward in no way makes up for the risk.
Yeah what is the incentive to having their players “showcased” on CNBC?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
i want to see the nhl stop ovie and the other russians stars from going though.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
+1 The players want this too much for every country. The NHL will have a hard time getting the genie back in the lamp on this one.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve never heard of it?
Brilliantly parodied on SNL for many years
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I hate that mercedes commercial..so cheesy
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:30 PM EST reply actions
are the mets going to run the same exact commercial next year w 2011 instead?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
And by then they will have signed 4 more catchers, and 4 more Number 5 starters
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
looked at the standings again
7 v 10 and 8 v 9 are set unless we beat canada by 5.
slovakia vs norway…swiss vs belarus
so we just need 2 from Drury and 2 from Callahan
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
pessimist….lol
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
that wouldnt help us for canada to be 7th cause if finland wins then we get them canada in the quarters.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
well depending on what finland won by.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
the story of his season
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
so what seed are we looking at with an L? I just realized we might have been getting ahead of ourselves.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions
question...
What do Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook, Zach Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Corey Perry, Patrice Bergeron, Shea Weber, David Backes and Joe Pavelski all have in common?
(Hint: it should make most NYR fans sick)
they were drafted in 2003 after jessiman.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
should i list the 204 guys taken before hank to counter the point?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
agreed. i flipped yesterday when pierre called pavelski the best 205th pick ever.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
or the quality ball handlers playing the nba, drafted after Jordan Hill.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
that’s easy…jennings, lawson, maynor, collison at least
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
did u hear that the rockets tried to flip the picks and some other stuff to get amare right before the deadline?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
What’s a Knick?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
an overpaid mercenary that under achieves praying for a new mercenary to bring back to viability.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a Ranger
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
so same as a ranger before the salary cap
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, nice
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Usually about a gram of hydroponics
Some sell for more, some less
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Please dont cuz im really enjoying being miserable in a sick, twisted way
Cuz i keep hearing those names being called……….
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
this US team is so vanilla.. they’re the Chris Drurys’
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions
then I guess it will be a threesome in the steel city
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
"heave ho...heave ho"
Come on Eddie.. give us one.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 8:57 PM EST reply actions
If it wasn’t for all fat on his forehead it might really of hurt
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Wait……seriously?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Somewhere froese99 is laughing
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
or they can do the right thing and put him on the third line and use him as the “screener” on the power play
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by Joe Fortunato on Feb 21, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO!!!
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
I’m just letting people know
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by Joe Fortunato on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
TRAAAAAAADDEEE BAIT (I know he’s near impossible to move)
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions
especially since we need his permission.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wow this is some game eh boys?
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Wow, the floodgates have opened on this one
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions
Lets get to the intermission with this lead. Safety first. I’m talking Tom Renney style
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions
“Safe is Death”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
You know Drury has been playing really well in the Olympics
Its making me a little suspicious, Why isnt he playing nearly as well for the Rangers?
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions
he is running the pk not the pp thankfully
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever the outcome of these Olympics, I think it’s great that the US is starting to narrow the gap between Canadian and US hockey, on all levels
Canada will always have maple syrup!!!.......lol
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
k...Vermont comes close but it's still no Canada
You learn very early on as a kid growing up there how to tap a tree and make maple syrup
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I still like their beer
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Labatt’s is ok, but Molson Export is a personal favorite, I could put that in my Frosted Flakes
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
+1
i’d drink a molson export for team USA if i had one
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I drank many of them when I was in Montreal for the draft, I had my first 5 minutes after I passed through customs, LOL
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
they are way more popular in montreal than in toronto, they drink canadians over there, which aren’t bad, but don’t compare well to the exports.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Molson’s good, Labatt’s is piss water.
If I’m going Canadian..I’m going with Mauditte
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, Labatt’s is ok, I’ve had many beers that were worse.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
idk, i’m rooting for vermont. and that’s a first. :)
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
ha ha
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Could Roenick possibly look more disgusted by Milbury?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions
This has been a fantastic game
Wow.
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by Scent of a Woman on Feb 21, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
The Kurt Warner avatar will return after the olympics
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by Scent of a Woman on Feb 21, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
crosby sucks. felt like a good time to say it
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions
E. johnson (mot magic) has been really impressive tonight.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions
Great Game!
USA USA!
Good call on Crosby earlier!
by Gelatin on Feb 21, 2010 9:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Quote from CNNSI live blog
Ryan Callahan has just 5:52 to his credit, but I’ve noticed him every single shift. He’s making the Canadian D pay the price, and he’s had a very effective stick in his own zone.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/olympics/2010/02/21/usa.canada.blog/index.html?eref=sihp
I love Callahan and believe in building from within, but his trade stock may never be higher. I just worry he’s a younger Drury type player who’ll never consistently give you 20 goals.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with ya all the way. Stop trading heart.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
how many hits does cally have per minute? i’m gonna say 1
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions
so possible matchup with SVK, NOR, SWS, or BLR to get us to the final 4?
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions
Ok this pp is HUGE right now!!
gotta score here
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions
I just figured out he is talking to himself.
by christopherm on Feb 21, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well given the fact ive been here
for 27 years……………yeah. But im still a Canadian in the end.
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Another classic case of a team thinking they are too good.
Canada thought they njust had to show up and they would win. Team USA is bringing it to Canada
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions
lol
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
tremendously tremendous. beat them and canada doesn’t get a bye
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions
He has played a very good game
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
he has played an excellent tournament
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
true
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
See this is why Hockey is the BEST sport in the world!!!!!
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions
You beat me to it, this is what makes hockey such a great game.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think Emerick just stroked out
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:53 PM EST reply actions
I think this is the end of team Canada.. they’re in big trouble. One regulation win in 3 games.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions
he better block it after he failed to get it out just before that.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
anything…picking drury, building a team, any move he makes, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
post game buffet
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
he didn’t even go to the hand shake.
He’s elbow deep in the post game pancakes
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
“Elbow deep in the post game pancakes”
Free Bradshaw clinches the “post of the night” with a late goal
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
all the success has gone to his head
and his stomach
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
How great a game will that be?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
phenomenal cause a gold medal contender will be gone.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I was just gonna say........louongo should have played
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions
i said that before the tournament…maybe he will now, but doubt it.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not for nothing he only let in one bad goal.......when he was flopping around like a fish
All the other goals were deflections and screens
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
he was a shaky a lot of other times though
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
5:30 comes early for me, I may catch some of it, we’ll see
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
ryan miller channeled richter world cup 96.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions
imaginary three stars: miller, rafalsky, drury?
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions
if the swedes win or it goes to OT we avoid canada and russia til the finals if at all.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions
The thread will be up throughout the Sweden game, so have at it
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions
jim what’s the record for comments in a single thread here at the banter?
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I think we have had a few game threads get to around 700
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
is tomorrow a national day of mourning in canada?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions
they’ll need the rest, they do have an extra game to play…
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Dont be so quick to put Canada to bed guys
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
too bad, it’s bed time.
Team USA just slipped you an ambien.
they suck. they’re done.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, they’re not done at all. if anything, they’ll have another game to gel. hank ryan miller stood on his head today, and marty was his usual self. with luongo in net this is still a silver team.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
All this did was piss Canada off really.................uhh I hope.
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions
everyone knows what happens when you get CANADA mad!! lol
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
no offense, but canadians said the same crap 4 years ago after their first loss.
most talented team in the tourney, but doesnt mean the best.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like the Dallas Cowboys.
And the San Jose Sharks
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
cowboy talent is always overrated. more like the chargers.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
True mleetch and if it happens again it'll be ridiculous
You cant just show up and think your gonna win………thats on the coaches.
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
ha, when a team loses it’s always the coaches fault…how about ur leaders on the ice are to blame?
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda a newbie here in a way.
Why exactly are you rooting for Canada?
by Gelatin on Feb 21, 2010 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Man i lost that accent 25 yrs ago........
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
just giving you a hassle.. you’re a good dude for keeping your cool
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
It's all good bro........
Like I said………if Canada had to lose a game im glad it was against USA
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
hey chill buddy. this game’s canadian
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
take it easy boys. Good to join in tonight.. no homo
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions
so we have a better idea of seeds now.
1. us/finland
2. us/sweden
3. russia
4. sweden/czech/finland
5. sweden/czech
6 canada
7 slovakia
8 swiss
9-12 dont matter
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions
I think its also possible for it to be...
1. USA
2. Sweden
3. Finland
If Sweden wins in OT/SO, Finland and Russia will both have 7 pts and Finland will have a +8 goal differential compared to Russia’s +7
by bluecheese999 on Feb 21, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
or do the group winner automatically get a top 3 seed?
by bluecheese999 on Feb 21, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I would imagine so right
like division winners in the NHL
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
“Upon completion of the preliminary round, teams will be ranked 1D through 12D. The top four ranked teams (1D though 4D) will receive byes to the quarter-final round. The remaining eight teams will compete for the remaining four quarter-final positions.”
i guess not?
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
5 vs 12 – winner plays 4th
6 vs 11- winner plays 3rd
7 vs 10 – winner plays 2sn
8 vs 8 – winner plays 1st
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, no team is out after the group stage, kind of awkward.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
yea would have been easier to just drop the low 4.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
exactly. why bother giving them a chance?
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
maybe it’s more about rewarding the top 4 by giving them one less game to play.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
no cause sweden and finland cant both win the group.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
But Canada is locked into the 6th seed tho?
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
yea only 5 pts so definitely behind both swedes and fins
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think so since they won their group.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
where does it say that the group winners are seeded 1-3?
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
well they declared them as a bye to the quarters before even the canada us game, so i think there has to be something about it, but not sure.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
The following criteria will be used in the order presented to determine this ranking following completion of the Preliminary Round (1D – 12D):
* Higher position in the group
* Higher number of points
* Better goal difference
* Higher number of goals scored for
* Better 2009 IIHF World Ranking
to me that means 1 in a group beat 2 in another group even if 2 has more overall points.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
thanks mleech. i was looking for that text. the “the teams will be ranked” part was confusing to me. i mean, ranked how?…
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
that makes it worse…im sticking with russia 3 until someone w power tells me otherwise, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 21, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Pery was pretty lacadaisacle geting back on that ENG huh?
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions
sweden and finland have really shown up for this, i’m glad one of them gets to lose tonight.
by #17ToTheRafters on Feb 21, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions
Superb Defense is only worth 6 million when it’s on your Blue Line. Not wearing a C at forward. Lets not have a Drury lovefest.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Poe you hadda be sarcastic on that one right?
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Mr. Jersey Shore should be taken seriously.
by IAMARANGER16 on Feb 21, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
We will win a cup
If we sell and go for the lottery. If we do not, it will be the same old shit.
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by Scent of a Woman on Feb 21, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
ok I can see US winning gold but bro..........come on man.
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Hey, a decade is a long time
look at the difference between the ’94 Rangers and the ’04 Rangers…
by bluecheese999 on Feb 21, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well i'll give it to ya
I like your optimisim for the Rangers and believe me……..I def hope your right.
by giantsNYrangers on Feb 21, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Ok people, this was a good win, but lets be honest, its from Miller, some strong effort, and some luck. And listening to MSNBC after this game talk this up like its Miracle on Ice 2 is ridiculous.
Glen Sather is a Hockey Genius.
http://glensathersucks.com/
http://twitter.com/ThGeneralissimo
I think the
only reason their basing it on the Miracle on Ice is because of the passion they played against Canada.
most of its because the 2 NYR's contributed a bunch to the victory.
That in itself is a miracle.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I never realized how many Swedes the Red Wings had. If only they had Lundy, they wouldn’t have lost a game the previous two seasons.
and holmstrom isnt even playing in the tourney
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Roenick just gave Drury a “national apology” for what he said about him… its nice that Dru is making him look like even more of a tool
at least JR had the balls to admit he was wrong, let’s see Milbury grow a set and do that sometime.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
not to mention if sweden is 2, then maybe a US/Sweden final
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
except hank is usually watching it not facing it
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
sweden to win by no more than 4, not sure if they get 5 and we tie.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
well now that they have a 5 min major pp, look out.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
huge difference in 1 vs 2 seed.
1 seed play Swiss or Belarus in Quarters and probably Finland/Czech winner in Semis
2 seed play probably Slovakia in Quarters and probably Russia/Canada winner in Semis
i knew about the quarter’s match ups, wasn’t sure about the semi’s… you ain’t kiddin about huge difference, especially the way Finland is lookin right now
how would u like to be canada or russia right now…having to beat the other and then maybe sweden just to get to a title game where you would have thought before the tournament if they have to beat those two teams it would have been for the gold already.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
i know, its great that we know already that one of those teams is out… before it began I was thinking that could possibly have been the gold medal game itself
sometimes it feels that way, but i think it is approximately the same.
by Michael Gleich on Feb 22, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
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