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The Kovalchuk Effect

When I get the puck with Kovi in NHL 10, I shoot ASAP. It usually goes in... shocker. (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

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When I get the puck with Kovi in NHL 10, I shoot ASAP. It usually goes in... shocker. (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

           Let's change the discussion up a bit around here, as the Rangers are, well, being the typical Rangers. Just in case you've been living under a rock for the past day or so, here is the official trade between the Atlanta Thrashers and New Jersey Devils:

To New Jersey Devils: Ilya Kovalchuk, Anssi Salmela, ATL 2nd Round 2010

To Atlanta Thrashers: Johnny Oduya, Niclas Bergfors, Patrice Cormier, NJ 1st Round 2010, NJ 2nd Round 2010

            I'll go ahead for the impatient ones out there and just say it right now; I think in the short term the Devils win this deal, but I think if things go right for once down in Atlanta the Thrashers might end up winning this deal three years down the road. Overall, though, I'm going to give the slight edge to GM Lou Lamoriello and the Devils seeing as New Jersey just went from possible to probable Stanley Cup finalists. Let's look at this trade from a couple different perspectives.

Star-divide

From the Devil's mouth: The Devils and their fans are, deservedly, giddy with excitement about this trade. I'm not going to even try and describe Kovalchuk's talent with a horrible cliché.The more interesting part of the deal to me is Anssi Salmela, a 25 year-old former Devil who has offensive potential but hasn't found his groove yet. He can step right in for Oduya and should do fine because of the Devil's defensive system. Lamoriello made a smart decision by moving Cormier, as he could have serious character issues with his acts recently on the ice. To me, I think Kovalchuk will end up being a rental for the Devils. Marty Brodeur is having a little bounce-back year, but some of the tell-tale signs of a goalie on his way out have shown over the past couple of seasons. The Devils seem to be going for it all, and this move will obviously be looked upon as one of the bigger reasons why they won it if they end up with the Cup.

From the Birds Nest: Unfortunately, I don't think GM Don Waddell got all he could have for Kovalchuk in the short term. Johnny Oduya was signed to a reward contract for playing so well before, but now he is underperforming without Paul Martin on the ice with him. Bergfors over-achieved out of the gate, but is still a good young talent at the ripe age of 22. Both Oduya and Bergfors will benefit by playing in the Southeast division, if you want to take a fantasy angle. Patrice Cormier, meanwhile, can develop in peace once he gets all this suspension BS behind him. He could prove a lot of people wrong by quietly playing good in Hockey's no-man's land. Overall, though, it was tough for Atlanta to come out as the clear winner in any deal involving Kovalchuk. Atlanta is stacked with young talent and draft picks now, and that path has worked for some of the NHL's top teams currently right now.

From Madison Square Garden: Well, the Atlantic Division just got tougher than it usually is. Dating back to the 2006-2007 season, Kovalchuk has played 14 games against the Rangers for a total of 14 points (5 Goals - 8 Assists). Nobody can score against the Devils to begin with, so this does not make for a good match-up for the Rangers at any point. God forbid if the Rangers end up making the playoffs and we have to play the Devils. The only good thing about Kovalchuk coming to the Atlantic is that the Devils could be dishing out more losses than usual to the Penguins, Flyers, and Islanders. Games against those teams will now become 3-pointers, as I think either the Flyers or the Rangers will be the third team in the playoffs for the Atlantic Division.

            In the end, I think the Devils are going for it all, the Thrashers got a good but not great return, and the Rangers need to make one more deal if they expect to make the playoffs. One thing I know for sure is that I will not be watching any Devils-Rangers pre-game shows, because all they will be talking about is the 26 year-old sniper from Russia. I'll drink to Gabby's health while I wait.

P.S: Guess who crosses the river Saturday to visit MSG? Yeah, that team who just traded for Kovalchuk. I'm gonna start drinking now.

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad syntax

but it is indeed effect. You know you should always go with your gut and not the latter. Affect is used to show somethings effect, i.e., the dampness began to affect my health. Effect is used to show a change that is a result or consequence of an action or other cause. Okay that’s enough grammatical retorting for one lifetime.

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by imprisonedRangerfan on Feb 5, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ya beat me to it.

I need a snappy signature...

by IRockTheRed on Feb 5, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My gut was effect

But then I read a bunch of stuff and I stuck with affect. It just didn’t sound right.

Thanks though. It’s Friday which means my brain is off to basic school-like functions.

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by Rob Luker on Feb 5, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No prob Rob.

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by imprisonedRangerfan on Feb 5, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

more importantly

I’m pretty sure Olli Jokinen is a Sascha Baron Cohen character that has us all fooled.

by jigblahdah on Feb 5, 2010 2:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“… and the Rangers need to make one more deal if they expect to make the playoffs”

I hope we don’t make the playoffs, what’s the point? Make it as an 8th seed and lose in the first round? We do not have a team that can contend. Lest tank and get a nice top 10 draft pick.

by MattPwrcf1 on Feb 5, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tank to get top 5. We can stand pat and get top 10 with our fail roster. (we’re 9th right now)

If they make a move, I hope it’s a sell.

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by RangerSmurf on Feb 5, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not only tank, but start unloading the high-priced, over 30 players. Maybe the Rangers can get some decent prospects and draft choices for Drury, Prospal and Rozsival. Maybe they can get some sticks and pucks for Avery and Redden. The problem is Sather will try to save his job by making a deal that will, in the long run, come back to haunt the Rangers. This is why Sather must go down and he must go down fast.

by randyarnold on Feb 5, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You said this already.

First, stop talking about trading Drury. He has a no movement clause, he’s not going anywhere without his expressed written consent (or implied oral consent). Moving on….

Prospal can get value and is the one piece they should move but won’t. He can fetch a 2010 first, and combined with the tanking that would occur because of the move, they could send up with a top 5 and top 20 pick this year, which would be huge to add to the already stocked farm system. In fact, it makes entirely too much sense.

Rozsival has trade value despite the pessimists that think he sucks and we’re stuck, but again, because we’re unlikely to actually sell, this probably won’t happen when it should.

Redden – Hartford Wolpack Dreaming…on such a winter day……..

Avery – please elaborate. He’s cheap and effective at his role. Plus it’d be anarchy if he were traded. Unless that’s what we’re going for. I don’t see him in the long term plans for this team, but no use in trading him now.

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by RangerSmurf on Feb 5, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so, too. Maaybe we can sell Vinny and get a pick or a Dman in return. Tanking to bottom 5 would be awesome, that would give us a chance for get the # 1 pick, right?

by MattPwrcf1 on Feb 5, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually we are 8th, smurf.

by mleetch352 on Feb 5, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We have more wins than Florida. I know we have two games at hand but that’d be the tiebreaker.

Camp Tortorella - Where Vomit is a Mainstay

by RangerSmurf on Feb 5, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gabby > Kovy

Gabby and Kovy are tied at 2nd on the goal per game rank, with both having a .59 goal per game average since the lockout. However, 28% of Gabby’s goals are on the PP. 35% of Kovalchuk’s goals are on the PP. Gabby has 46 GWG in his career and has 1 more goal than assists in his career. Kovalchuk has only 40 GWG and has nearly 40 goals more than assists in his career. Id say Kovalchuk is more of a stickhandler than Gaborik, but obviously Gaborik is the fastest player in the league.

Id rather have Gaborik anyday over Kovalchuk. Gaborik is a more all around player than Kovalchuk, and is just as good a goal scorer. He scores in all situations and types. You name it, Gabby can score it. Kovalchuk is way more one dimensional. Gaborik’s passing is better, and Kovalchuk makes Gaborik look like a Selke winner.

LOLZ @ all the people who said Gaborik was one dimensional last summer. Couldnt be further from the truth.

The Devils will be much better on offense now with Kovalchuk, but I still dont see them winning much.

by Personman on Feb 5, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you and this is what I am hoping for:

Devs losing in the 1st round of the playoffs and Kovalchuk signing elsewhere. That way the Devils lose 4 players and have nothing to show for it and get embarassed. I love hating on the Devils! :)

by MattPwrcf1 on Feb 5, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

have to agree with u there, but i also think he’s positioning himself better this year on even strength and the pk.

by louielounz1 on Feb 5, 2010 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

realistically

I think the Devils could go as far as the Conference Finals. I just dont see them beating the Penguins. If Washington had a goalie then id put them over the Devils too.

Theres no way Kovalchuk will re-sign after playing under Lemaire, and I dont think the Devils have the money, or Lamoriello would offer anything near what hes asking.

by Personman on Feb 5, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so hopefully

Kovalchuk goes West in July.

by Personman on Feb 5, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He’s gonna go East. Faster flight to Russia that way.

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by RangerSmurf on Feb 5, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thats funny Smurf, but I was thinking the same exact thing yesterday. This might seem like a stupid thing to do when picking where to play, but there are no direct flights from Atlanta to Russia, so being somewhere in a big city on the east coast is definitely more convenient. I bet that when Kovalchuk used to fly to Russia from Atlanta, he had at least two stops along the way, 1 most likely in JFK or Newark and another one somewhere in Europe before finally flying to his hometown of Tver. With 2 connecting flights and flying to Tver, he was probably looking at a trip of at least 15+……and there might not even be an airport in Tver so maybe he flies to Moscow and then drives to Tver… well that takes even longer……ok I ll stop now, got carried away

by MattPwrcf1 on Feb 5, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota Wild's beat writer Mike Russo per twitter

“Lemaire would soon learn Marian Gaborik was a Selke contender compared to Kovalchuk
6:07 AM Feb 4th from TweetDeck”
  
So so true

by Personman on Feb 5, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know the common theme is that the Devils did well here, but I don’t think they’ll be able to resign him, and having seen a few Devils games this year, I think some might be underrating Oduya’s importance to the defensive structure of the team. I’ll be watching to see if any holes open up, especially with Kovy’s non-existent defense.

by Joe1969 on Feb 5, 2010 4:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The thing is he’ll probably play alongside Parise and Elias (possibly Langenbrunner), who are both system buy-ins and can cover up his mistakes.

And if his ES defense becomes a liability, he’s still a lethal force to have on the power play, especially since he’ll probably occupy the left point with Martin on the right (once he returns). Lemaire will just sit him until they get a PP or down a couple goals knowing him :-)

by Caerid112 on Feb 5, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

parise and elias dont play together. he will play with parise and zajac or elias and langenbrunner would be the guess when elias is back, zubrus until then. yes some of those guys will cover up for his defensive laziness because they have been in the system and are good 2-way players.

by mleetch352 on Feb 5, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dougee…you are out of control today lol

by MattPwrcf1 on Feb 5, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

where do you get stuff

Save by Richter!

by spartan12 on Feb 5, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this one is great lol

LETS GO RANGERS!!!! SECTION 405!!!!!

by kiop900 on Feb 5, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dude that is priceless you rule lol lol lol lol lol lol ,lol ..

by lohaus#54 on Feb 5, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the Devils get hammered in the first round!! I hate them more than the Islanders!!

by Roc1193 on Feb 5, 2010 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Avery’s gonna be on double duty on Saturday – messing with Fatso and Kovy.

by Joe1969 on Feb 5, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt. Welcome to New York Brandon.

by Joe1969 on Feb 5, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lmfao wooooohhh

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 6, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Fatso and the Playoffs

Don’t forget – Brodeur turns 39 in May. Although he’s had a great year, he’s shown signs of fatigue recently, and coming off of a 2008-9 season where he played only 31 games, he’s playing almost every night for NJ with their crap backup. He’s also the starting goalie for Canada in the Olympics, who are bound to play a lot of games with a lot of pressure. Look for him to weaken come springtime. (And even with Kovy now a Devil, the Caps still have a better offense.)

by Joe1969 on Feb 5, 2010 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Also, New Jersey (and Brodeur) haven’t won anything, or looked dominant in the playoffs since they had an all-star cast on D (Stevens, Nieds, Rafalski etc).

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 6, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how i see it

i have to disagree with some of you who think the devils will make it to the conference finals or further … for a couple of reasons - Penguins & Capitals …. and one of the most obvious reasons they won’t get past those teams is because those 2 star players Crosb*tch & Ovechkin have the refs in the palms of their hands, while the devils don’t. the only favorable calls the devils get is when someone bumps into Brodouche’s fingernail (yet Lundqvist gets bowled over by a tank game after game and never gets a call). the league wants to see a Pitts/Wash conference final, so you know bettman will be phoning in when to make calls.

by DJ Chicken on Feb 5, 2010 5:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 6, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Surprising ...

I know you all have said it, but I’m surprised Kovy agreed to NJ. The defensive system was a nightmare for Gabby in Min, and now Kovy’s walking into a similar situation. All the comments make sense; this is a rental. Kovy’s used to being the prima-donna face of a franchise, but this is Brodeur’s team, with a (somewhat) knowledgable fan base who will eat him up for not playing both ends of the ice. This will either end up like Manny in Boston, or Reggie “stir the drink” in ’77. Watch with morbid curiosity …

by bleed'n blue on Feb 5, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if we actually made the playoffs.....

we would be a low seed and the one team i would wanna play is the devils.. we have had sucess recently against them in the playoffs and we also detroyed atlanta the year we played them sweeping them in 4… so with hanks pretty good numbers against the devils.. i think i would rather play them then the caps, sabres, or pens… plus if it is a 7 game series then we have 7 straight home games cause newark is always filled with rangers fans especially during the playoffs

LETS GO RANGERS!!!! SECTION 405!!!!!

by kiop900 on Feb 5, 2010 7:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lou wont resign him ?

lamirello wont resign kolvachuck so he is a rental lou got rid of gionta gomez holik and richer for a lot less then kovy wants so if they dont win the cup it is a wasted trade cause the devils are not gonna shell out the loot for kovy .

by lohaus#54 on Feb 5, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow lol

LETS GO RANGERS!!!! SECTION 405!!!!!

by kiop900 on Feb 6, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is a great deal for the devils in my view…almost no downsides. But I can be pretty sure of one thing that wont happen as a result of this trade…the devils selling more tickets. The devils have their fanbase, and it will stay relatively consistent during the rest of the season. They will start selling more tickets come playoffs,, and, depending on their opponent early, may even sell out a few games. But I think anyone who thinks this move will lead to more ticket sales at The Rock (Hi Kenny Danyeko!!) are going to be disappointed.

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by poploser on Feb 5, 2010 11:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know the Leafs got upended in the last few minutes, but the main thought I had watching Friday night’s game was how important defense is, and I’m really hoping we get Volchenkov or Hamhuis this summer to serve as an anchor for our D. The Leafs REALLY upgraded their team last week with Sjostrom and Phaneuf, and the Devils I thought looked more tentative defensively than usual, and I attribute that to Oduya’s departure. Kovy is just not in Ovechkin’s league, I don’t care how many goals he’s scored – he doesn’t have the same kind of impact on the game. I have a good feeling about Saturday night for the Rangers.

by Joe1969 on Feb 6, 2010 2:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I watched the game really to see the impact the trades have had on the Leafs.
Burke has completely detonated this team since last year – even more than Sather has the Rangers.
And if rumors count for anything, with Exelby wanting out, and possibly moving Kaberle, there’s more to come.

I’ve got to say, this Toronto team is going to be very dangerous in the next couple of years, if last night was indicative of how they’ll be playing. They dominated for long stretches – and the score could have been a blowout. Shame on them for letting the Devils hang around.

Joe1969 – good point about Oduya’s departure. I can’t help but think that Lamoriello will be looking for one more move to strengthen the defense.

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by dbmaven on Feb 6, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

id love to get volchenkov..

send redden down and bring him in haha.. hes that dman weve been looking for.

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 6, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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