NHL Trade Deadline Day: Open Thread Part 1
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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10:41: The Boston Bruins have traded D Derek Morris to Phoenix for a 2011 4th rouind pick. As per TSN.
Here is your open thread for the AM of Trade Deadline Day. A second part thread will go up at 11 AM to carry you 
through the second part of the day.
Joe, Nick, and Greg will be posting the latest trades here in the story, feel free to discuss them in the thread, along with any rumors, speculation, whatever.
Don't forget, tonight at 8 PM, Eddie and I will break down all the Ranger moves on Blueshirt Banter Radio.
Enjoy!
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and Slim took the day off.
BlueshirtBanter - beating up reporters at bus stops since 1994
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Enough of this throw in the towel and sell. I’m not saying we should sacrifice a ton o youth, but you’re a fool for not wanting to get better an make a run at it. You never know what 2-3 guys could do to the dynamic especially if it’s legit blueline help. LET’S GO RANGERS
by IAMARANGER16 on Mar 3, 2010 8:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyr100303.html
interesting, seems to suggest that gilroy for hamhuis could be done and if that’s the case i would be all over that.
+1
I feel Gilroy is the best Rangers’ asset to use as bait. I wouldn’t lose sleep over trading him. he has great offensive potential but Del Zotto has more.
by truebluesince75 on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
Really? Where do I sign? Does it still count if the contract is on fire from the speed of the pen?
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
salary issue?
is Hamhuis up for a salary increase? maybe Nashville is a bit stingy in the money department and would rather get something for him if they cant sign him or he asks for too much?
by truebluesince75 on Mar 3, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Well that’s absolutely the case.
However, they can get more than just Gilroy for him.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
shh, don't give them ideas.
maybe the Nashville GM reads this forum.
by truebluesince75 on Mar 3, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
If there are GMs reading this, I hope Tambellini read the end of the game thread yesterday.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
im not saying i dont understand them dealing him but a return of more than gilroy should easily be had not to mention they need offense.
C’mon ! You know that there will be more involved in a deal like this than a straight up one for one. To make it worthwhile for NSH – especially considering the other offers that are probably on the table – will require one high draft pick, or two mid-high picks.
And for that reason, Sather should walk – no….. RUN – away.
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only other offer that has had names to it was Ryan Parent from Phi who has no picks top 2 rounds this year.
But you have to know that there are others talking with them about Hamhuis.
Like probably Lamoriello – who loves to sneak in under the radar and make things happen (which, IMO, is a smart way to operate).
Also remember that nobody had Antropov or Morris with #NYR until those deals were essentially done last year.
No – I think we need to get “off the grid” – ’cause Sather tends to pull unlikely scenarios out of his humidor on deadline day.
BlueshirtBanter - beating up reporters at bus stops since 1994
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please do not sacrifice Dubi or Cally just to shed Redden
rectifying a bad mistake by making an even bigger mistake is just plain stupid.
swallow your pride Sather and send Redden to the minors if need be.
How's a bout instead of "selling" or "buying"
they make a reasonable trade? One that doesn’t suck maybe?
Like not trading for Souray…..Redden/Rozi + a part not named Dubi or Callaha would be OK.
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Slim and none appear again.
Same thing happened last year @ deadline. Voros waived. Stayed on the roster for a while, then was sent to HFD. Called back up when ? was injured and cleared recall waivers.
I don’t expect anyone to pick him up.
Lisin – maybe – but even that is doubtful.
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we find out at noon……hopefully someone takes the big V off our hands……
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
No shot. Apparently they don’t pay attention much to the Rangers on deadline day….We’re never sellers.
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Eklund's got himself
quite the nice little tracker there…..too bad 3/4 of the predictions are crap
When is Messier going to be ready??
To be the new GM???
2015. He’s not the solution.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
breaking news:
TSNBobMcKenzie The first trade of day has come and gone — Tim Horton’s gave me a coffee instead of steeped tea at drive thru. Had to swap it. Done deal.
lol- Call Eklund, tell him to get it to the top of the big board!!!
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Can we please not mention that putz ?
He adds nothing of value to any discussion. His ‘accuracy’ is about the same as lightning striking you in the exact same place two days in a row.
Follow Dreger or some of the others with a decent track record and a history of results. But don’t mention Mr (e0) – please…..
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But, but...
His sources just linked Bob McKenzie and Krispy Kreme to a rumor.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
two problems with that
1)Tim Horton’s cant take his contract
2)He’d end up giving food away to the wrong people
I admit
I read that too quick, saw the word Horton and got really excited for a second. Bastard.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
TSN
they aren’t letting people in the US watch live streaming coverage this year!!! damnit america. now i have to do work?
TheFourthPeriod Lots of chatter of out Montreal claiming Habs want Florida’s Nathan Horton (he’s been a target for months). Not sure MTL has enough cap room
NOOOO
He’s too big to play there. Let them trade for Cogliano and Price.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
er….for Price
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
If only.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
we should take price, he’s proven himself this year as a solid back-up goalie :)
by #17ToTheRafters on Mar 3, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
one guy i could see slats going after is Paul Kariya
Hes over 30
past his prime
has a terrible contract
in other words HES PERFECT
They can’t take him without shedding either Redden or Rozi. That’s the saving grace here.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Rorabaugh set the scene:
“The ovation for Sabres goaltender Ryan Miller was stunning. It was honestly, playoff loud for Ryan Miller. The visiting goaltender. We understand it. We agree with it. We just didn’t expect it
…
Many fans actually booed Sidney Crosby when he was acknowledged. Wow. Way to be xenophobic Pittsburgh."
hahah
does anyone know who the top standout would be in this years UFA class???
it always seems like the NHL never really has that strong of free agent classes and that teams build through trades and drafts
As of right now:
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Whoops.
Lidstrom, Niedermeyer, Kovalchuk, Marleau, Kariya, Jokinen, Gonchar, Kubina, Jonsson. At least in terms of highest paid.
Go to capgeek.com, free agent tap.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
No way lidstrom is not a Red Wing next year
by giantsNYrangers on Mar 3, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I think there are several on that list not going anywhere actually. He just asked who is in the class.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
No I know what he was asking you
I just felt like throwing my rusted 2 cents in…..lol
by giantsNYrangers on Mar 3, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
4m, only 2 years left, couple of 30 goal, 60 point seasons. Doesn’t seem that bad.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
he had a couple of relatively unsustainable shooting % years though. 20.8% is ridiculously high, 15% high but can be repeated.
also isnt it a redflag when a team w trouble scoring is sending out memo’s about the availability of presumably one of their best scorers?
Like Horton?
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
No to Souray.
Maybe to Demitra, depends what it costs.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
He's a douche.
Is there an answer you’ll accept?
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
It's not about me accepting an answer...thats how you feel
we are all entitled to our opinion……….jus curious.
I dont see him leaving NJ anyway
No way Lou gives up that much just to see him walk…..he’s too smart for that
Tough to see Lou tying up 15% of his cap on someone too. Conflicting forces.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
So you guys see him as just a rental for the Devs?
by giantsNYrangers on Mar 3, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
I do.
They didn’t really give up a big haul of players (all are basically replaceable) and like leetch says, its very against the Devils to pay one player that much.
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I think it was a play at one more cup while Marty still has a few marbles rolling around upstairs. He can’t have many years left, especially with the workload he hauls every season for that team. I see them jettisoning Kovie end of the season and going through a short rebuild when Marty retires and build around Parise.
If Sather miraculously Donnie Walsh’s his way out of Redden and/or Rozi’s contract…Kovy to the Rangers is a possibility.
He might be a douche..but so is Ovechkin.
Kovy is basically a better, less injury prone Gaborik.
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Let me say this.......If Sather somehow gets out of Reddens deal
I will wait a full 6months b4 I say anything negative about him. And going 6 months is a big deal!
fire sather
if we get rid of redden do we cancel the FIRE SATHER Rally?
Redden looks like Burt and has perma-frown
anybody see how pissed Gabby looked during his interview last night?
Like he was thinking…………..“My god damn groin AGAIN?”
@NYP_Brooksie Can tell you that as of last night Rangers had not inquired about Souray or Demitra
file under potential good news.
I find it really hard to believe they haven’t at least asked about Souray. I believe there’s no actual proposal though.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Here's the move that should be made
I’d give up a late round pick for him.
@CraigCustance
Not much of a market yet for Garnet Exelby. But that could change as more d-men move. Looking at a late-round pick.
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That narrows it down lol
DarrenDreger To encourage a trade, Sheldon Souray has softened…won’t go to a CDN team, but will waive for 19 other teams.
MPS! MPS! I love pipe dreams.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
He’s only Edmonton’s top prospect….
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/magnus_svensson-paajarvi
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What do you think db?
MPS, Smid, Nilsson for Dubi, Girardi, Potter.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Had convo with mleetch about this. ;-)
If I’m EDM GM – NFW.
Dubi > Nilsson
Girardi = Smid
MPS >>>>>>>Potter
I’m not getting enough value in return.
If I’m Sather – and can pull of this Jedi Mind Trick……. /drools
Problem is – this does nothing for #NYR today or for playoff “push”
So it won’t happen !
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Yeah, that was interesting. He inflates Dubi alot though.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Edmonton’s top prospect. He’s 18.
But yes, he does suck (wink wink, nudge nudge)
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Peca and Barnaby
who would have thought these goons would be hired to analyze…. classic peca showing off his gold medal from 02 and Barnaby noting that he still has his corona bottle from mexico from the Olympic break that year
10:03 a.m. – It looks like Tomas Vokoun to Philadelphia is in the works, and that Jeff Carter is the target for Florida. Not exactly a salary dump for Panthers; Carter is owed $5 million next season.
great move for florida if that happened.
Not sure. I doubt it, I think Mueller goes to Col.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Guys I'm in class till 12 (posting on my phone during a midterm, how deticated am I?)
so I am sorry if this thread stays a little “barren” during that time period. I’ll update ya through the day once the second thread rolls around.
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Barren? lol. Were at like 140 already.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
not the comments, you guys are great
the info actually in the thread.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 3, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Oh
The top is far away. That’s alot of scrolling.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Funny how fast D-Mo’s value fell from one year to the next.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Good Deal for Phoenix
They get a player who is used to them and visa verca for relatively cheap. Everyone forgets the Coyotes are actually going to play in the Playoffs this year.
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Given what other teams are paying for veteran d-men, it’s impressive to just give up a 4th.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
NYR fans would say the same...
but its a lower-risk trade because of the five seasons he played in Phoenix before… where he played his best hockey
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And its risky for PHX ‘cause he’s playing for a new (and unknown) coach.
Not all that risky, though, given that all it took to get him was a 4th rounder. Net over 2 years for PHX is positive.
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Exactly
Plus if they wanted to sign him they could at a discount rate because of the last couple of seasons.
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I figure about 7 to 3.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Noooooooooooo!!!!!
I broke down after 25 years and bought a player jersey this year. Don’t make my decision regrettable.
by truebluesince75 on Mar 3, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, knowing Sather, there’s almost no chance he stays in blue.
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Sather doesn’t have a track record of trading top 6 forwards for the sake of doing so.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I avoided getting a Duby sweater for Christmas
Because I was afraid of this.
by Lunkwill Fook on Mar 3, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
It’s why I’ve held off on Callahan’s too. He seems to be safe these days though.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
To me
Girardi is worth either a third or a second. I would not want to see him go though. If he did I hope he would want to come back.
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Solid D men are hard to find in the NHL
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
No kidding. There’s only about 40 being rumored. ;-)
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
ugh.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Why would you trade Dubi?
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He would fetch alot more than a good pick.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t trade a guy who’s solid for a pick you know nothing about.
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Dude
He’s 23 – aka 2/3 years until his PPG maxes out and currently he sits at .64 PPG. He’s only got better years ahead of him, trust me.
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Kesler looked amazing in the Olympics
I had never seen him play but but he is most impressive.
by truebluesince75 on Mar 3, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Typical Power Forward
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I would like maybe some extra goal netting as well.
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Martin Skoula to New Jersey is confirmed. Done.
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Catching up
Dubi is staying , 80%… snipe last night sold it
Staal was rediculous last night on Kovalev… i really hope he keeps improving and stops looking like a deer in the headlights when he gets some space in the offensive zone
Girardi can for a 4th round for all i care
Girardi for a fourth would be dumb from NYR perspective
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nothing huge though.
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Allegedly
Souray to us is gaining steam.
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ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I'll be back
Here’s the site I’m following:
http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2010/03/03/trade-deadline-analysis/
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Afinigenov, Whitney, Torres….usual suspects.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
No. I mean, Dubinsky’s the only top 6 on our team being shopped. If they’ll give up Prospal, that would work too.
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by George E. Ays on Mar 3, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully NJ continues to fill up on useless players to join Fatso.
by blueshirts1623 on Mar 3, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
the big question is: will the leafs have a player that attended camp this year not named kabarle on the team after the trade deadline?
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