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Rangers Analysis: Would Missing the Playoffs be a Good Thing?

With Wednesday’s lack of action by the Rangers Front Office, they leave their team with no other option but to win with the lineup they have. That is the same lineup that has struggled all season long to pick up wins and score goals. The same lineup that has been consistently soft and loose defensively. The same lineup that is just two games above .500 and still out of the playoff race. Will this same lineup be able to pull out a miracle and make the playoffs?

In all the years since 2006 when the Blueshirts have claimed a playoff berth, this year’s may be the hardest to bid for when considering how many teams will be in contention and the caliber of those teams for that matter. Sure, if they play like they did against the Ottawa Senators on Tuesday night, it should not be much of a problem, but as fans that have followed the team for the entire year, we are well aware that there is a slim chance our Rangers win consistently from now until April.

The goal of this team each and every year has been to pick themselves up and barely make the playoffs as the regular season schedule comes to a close. We saw it last year, the year before that, and the year before that. It is never the lineup that was created in the offseason that is making that run at a playoff spot, either. So my question is if this year’s lineup will have what it takes to make the playoffs.

Bringing in Olli Jokinen is a plus, but I do not feel it is enough of a boost on offense to get them scoring at a pace that they should under an offensive system run by head coach John Tortorella. The defense needed change before yesterday’s deadline and it did not receive that. There is still a very big gap on defense and of course, limited offense. I am not too sure a team with those sorts of problems will be able to keep itself active in the month of May, when half of the league is hitting the Golf Course and the other half is still playing hockey.

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So if this lineup cannot get it done in 2010, what would make GM Glen Sather think it will be able to do so in 2011? The fact is that he won’t, forcing him to fix problems such as Wade Redden and Michal Rozsival in the offseason. He may have made the mistakes, but he is not dumb enough to believe that everything is all hokey dory. He knows damn well that some of the big contract players on this roster are not worth the money they make.

There are already signs that this team is in a youth movement, but Glen Sather wants to win while going through that semi-rebuild. He doesn’t want to follow through with the full-blown tanking. So I now raise this next question to you. Would this team be better off not making the playoffs?

It would be the best way for management, ownership, and the rest of the organization to realize that they are not all high and mighty once they miss the playoffs. And like I said, it would leave Sather with no other option but to man up to his mistakes and find ways to fix them. Unless, of course, he is willing to watch the team completely fail yet again.

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i agree with your assessment that missing the playoffs should force them to man up to the failures of some of these contracts and force action on them even if only in part because of the lost revenue of a playoff series, but im not sure if they barely miss say by a point or 2 in 9th that they wont claim crutches like dubi’s missed time and other injuries, not having olli the whole year and the youth of some of our guys. I say that because if they took a realistic assessment of where this team is in terms of potential to contend and thought they had a shot they would have bought and the fact they didnt tells me they know we cant contend even with “one more piece” as constructed so to me that dictates we should have sold for future assets.

i think the embarrassment of finishing somewhere around 11th in the East or worse and with a top 7 pick (not to mention if they somehow fell behind the Isles) would make the scenario you and I both think should happen more likely to come down.

by mleetch352 on Mar 6, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

No way would sitting out the playoffs help. Experience for our youth is very important. I come from the Yankee fan mold of Ranger fans. I bet most of you “let’s bottom out, were terrible” posters are Met fans in the majority.

by IAMARANGER16 on Mar 6, 2010 8:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Im sorry but acquiring young talent is def more important than playoff experience

Now im not saying we should PURPOSELY lose the rest of the way but if the Rangers started to fall in the standings it would not be a bad thing. If we are builiding towards a future, obtaining young, talented players is paramount to doing so. Now I cannot sit there and hope my team loses but if they do I wont cry about it….(even though I wanted to cry after the loss to the Pens thursday night…wow what a tough one) I will not accept mediocrity and for those who think it;s ok jus to make the PO’s and get bounced dont see the big picture.

by giantsNYrangers on Mar 6, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

now why with the mets draft history under minaya would any met fan want them to get any let alone high picks. i am a yankee fan but this isnt baseball and the rangers cant go out and get CC, AJ, Teix this offseason to make up for finishing out of the playoffs or even squeaking in. hockey now is built mostly through the draft and the difference b/w the 15th best player in a draft year and say the 7th is significant if the rangers continue to draft as they have the last two years.

by mleetch352 on Mar 6, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

seriously???? um you cant compare this to baseball because we have a salary cap.(something baseball should adopt) and second of all would you rather be our team and make the playoffs and get bounced just too see a bunch of old guys leave and new old guys enter, while you can be the team that loses and gets high draft picks and eventually becomes the next Coyotes, Avalanche, Kings, Capitals, Flyers, Pens. Id rather see us become a younger team that eventually molds into a contender like those teams Ive mentioned, and in order to see that happen Im willing to take a season off or even two seasons off to see it happen. Now Im a Yankee fan and what happened this season was BS I didnt enjoy that team one bit, the ability just to throw enormous amounts of money at the best players so they play for you is rediculous, especially when the other teams cant even compete with there payroll. Im glad hockey has a salary cap so we dont become the Yankees of hockey.

by CrazyRangerFan on Mar 6, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a yankee fan too

And I’d almost guess it’s the opposite of what you said.. Yankee fans don’t tolerate this “hey, we made the playoffs!” stuff. The goal is championships, end of story.

This Rangers team is not a championship team, so the clearest path is to get someone in here who could help that goal. It’s more likely that player would be obtained in the top picks of this years draft than with the current FA class, who are either:

1) too expensive for the cap era
2) lifers with their current team
3) too old to be considered solid pieces when the team will be ready to compete.

That’s not saying they shouldn’t be active in FA for the role players needed, but in this NHL, the top teams all have one thing in common: Multiple top 7 picks.

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by George E. Ays on Mar 6, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m agreeing with a Yankee fan…imagine that.

by earthworm on Mar 6, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It's ALL about winning......the "Im so happy we made the playoffs" scenerio

wore off two years ago. We were coming off a 7 year playoff drought so yeah just making the playoffs was a big deal. It’s not anymore……people that are happy for 4 extra games at the end of april are real easy to please I guess but not me. I want to see this team improve every year to hopefully one day skate around with the cup. To fight and scratch every yr for the final 2 spots after going through horrible losing streaks all yr is not gonna make me happy. I am tired of watching other teams get better while our team just makes the playoffs. Certain people out here really need to get a clue. It’s called competition for a reason……you compete to win…..nothing else matters!

by giantsNYrangers on Mar 6, 2010 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

never tank a season ?

the only reason the pens are great now is because they tanked the season the past 3 out of 5 years getting high picks like fleurey malkin and sid the bitch. the rangers dont believe in that even if we have to get the last spot to get in. you play 82 games a season to get a chance to make the playoffs. history has shown alot of 8th seeded teams have made the cup finals with a hot goalie and we have a great goalie . im not saying that we could make the finals as a 8th seeded team but we got a goalie that can win games for us by himself the flyers the craps or bruins cant say that. if everybody thinks if the rangers start tanking the season the next couple of years and think thats going to make us a contender like the pens just look at certain teams that did do that and look what happend yeah lindros sure won alot of cups with the flyers sure bure really made the canucks a great cup contender all those years he was there 1 cup finals and no victory. my theory is you never know what can happen if you get in and we are not going to know what happens to this ranger team this year once and if ? they make it in but it sure feels goog to have lundqvist in goal i bet the flyers cant say that hey hows that ray emery working out for you guys lol lol lol,..

by lohaus#54 on Mar 6, 2010 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

The list of 8 seeds making the finals.

2005-2006 Oilers

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by George E. Ays on Mar 6, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Where's the rest of the list...?

/sarcasm

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by dbmaven on Mar 6, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

better yet, where’s the list of 8 seeds winning a title. ;)

by mleetch352 on Mar 6, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The teams that don’t tank have great drafting and are flat out great places to play in: Philly and Detroit for example. The Rangers? From an outsider, only Staal, Dubinsky, Callahan, and Lundqvist come to mind. Though it is a great place to play, there are other places that are looking more like winners.

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by red army line on Mar 6, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Your missing my point lohaus......my point was to people out here content to just make the playoffs

get bounced early and say yeah pick it up next yr with the same results….bullshit!!! Im not saying the Rangers should tank cuz as a competitor you always try. And Pittsburgh never tanked they just sucked with young players till they got better. Dont tank but to Glen Sather stop with the patchwork theory and stop buying underachieving FA every offseason who dont perform and BUILD a team. Thats my point. Build a team through the draft and if you add a few FA here and there so be it. Sather always has to go for the big name, big ticket FA every year and has it worked? NO!! Thats my point.

by giantsNYrangers on Mar 6, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree but look what this team has drafted over the years sather has no clue i meen cmom hugh jessiman over getslaf or mike richards .i think this franchise wants to rebuild but be competitive at the same time thats a good theory but you have to have the players and right now we dont have the players and we are many years away from being a cup contender ..

by lohaus#54 on Mar 7, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

O for cryin’ out loud.

Could we stop pointing at 2003 and using that as the primary means of rating the Rangers ability to draft?

Yes – it turned out to be a bad pick. Get over it.
Since Renney/Gord Clark, the Rangers have built a Top 5 prospects organization – just go to Hockey’s Future if you need verification.

In pretty much any draft year – the top 4 or 5 are impact players either immediately or within a year. I’d take that “risk” over a 1st round playoff exit in a heartbeat.

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by dbmaven on Mar 7, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

couldnt of said it better myself Maven.............

seriously get over Hugh Jessiman…….bad pick, coulda got this guy, coulda got that guy…well guess what?….we didnt. Move on. And DB is right…..Rangers have the #2 ranked farm system if im not mistaken. Yeah and your right, this organization wants to rebuild and be competetive………….it’s called mediocrity.

by giantsNYrangers on Mar 7, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Make the playoffs if you can

I agree with whoever stated that making the playoffs is more important then tanking. Couple of reasons:

1 – Playoff experience is valuable
2 – Even if we lose it’s better for moral than if we didn’t even make it. This is an important part of team dynamics that we tend to ignore. Telling your team “you guys suck to much this year, let’s not try hard” is going to translate into a terrible “next year”.
3 – Not making the playoffs may mean the end of either tort’s or Sather. While this may sound good in theory we all know how detrimental an administration change can be in the middle of a “youth movement”. There is a good chance, if Sather were to be fired, the new person would have a different agenda and potentially trade away some of the youth to make the playoffs and please his boss.

So, to put it lightly, I think those who keep writing articles about how the Rangers should tank, throw themselve’s off buildings, or play in traffic, need to give it a rest.

by NewburghHockey on Mar 6, 2010 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

I agree and disagree, experience is valuable and intangible, but thats how Drury has been playing most of the season, and we’re still struggling. Love the guy as much as the next fan, but he hasnt put up the numbers he should be with the rags and as captain..but on the other hand, if we squeeze in as 8th seed or even get lucky with 7th, look who we’re going to play: 8th vs 1st(Washington swept in 4, maybe 6 if we have a really good home game stretch) 7th vs 2nd(either Jersey or Pittsburgh, Jersey, id give us a fighting chance to take it to 7, but Pitt, clearly we just cannot win against them, home, away, anywhere.

Now i do agree that it would make sather take a closer look at this team over the offseason, but hes going to be doing that regardless if we make the playoffs or not, its just too apparent that R&R are poison among this team, really, 2 goals on the WHOLE season rozi..2…so much for an offensive defenseman.

But i dont agree with bottoming out, pulling an Islanders, hoping for a top 1st round pick and put all of our future hopes and dreams on an 18 yr old or 21 yr old, when now we have a cornerstone at 2 ends of the ice, Gabby and Lundqvist. If we base the team core around those 2, including callahan(i leave out Dubi only because i feel like if were going to trade away for anyone of worth, were going to have to get rid of a person with worth, and theyll let dubi go before callahan IMO.) and delzotto and gilroy are definitely the future on defense with girardi and staal as the sem-veteran.

but we do need to make some wise moves, and by we i mean the man with all the power, and not make any drastic moves other than getting big contracts out, and getting people who can play up to our sometimes high, but do-able expectations.

 I personally would love to see another Staal grace the ranger jersey(if i had my way) i think that would improve both of them to a level where everytime theyre on the ice, theyll try to outperform eachother. But thats just me. i liked the rumors about Setoguchi or Pavelski, i thought they would both be prime candidates to play on the left wing with gabby and prospal. We just need people who love to play garbage pickup and get all those rebounds goaltenders clear to the left side off of a gaborik shot.

by LIrangersfan on Mar 6, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont know where you guys get this idea of tanking?

I have never read ANYBODY out here saying the rangers should tank and purposely lose games and I am a regular out here. This tanking thing has taken on a life of it’s own. What people have been saying b4 the trade deadline is SELL dont be a buyer. Gather extra picks and draft wisely cuz making the 8th spot and getting bounced isnt enough anymore. People who know what they are talking about actually want this team TO GET BETTER!!! And Newburghhockey I have never seen you out here b4……….who exactly are writing these TANK articles?

by giantsNYrangers on Mar 6, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you very much. when people talk about selling or a high draft pick it equates to some as tank. no one has suggested benching guys and not competing in games but letting this team die off as is destined and we could have gotten more picks/prospects if we had sold high on prospal and sold girardi at the deadline.

by mleetch352 on Mar 6, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

just to put it out there, i never said they should tank, or intentionally lose, but i would rather see them miss the playoffs and rebuild in the offseason, then waste another week of our time and lose to the caps/penguins in the first round and leave more disapointed than we did before they started. I wish i had enough faith that this team would be a sleeper in the playoffs, but theyve been way too inconsistent to win 4 games in a 7 game series, let alone more than 1. we need to do more before we can be playoff ready, unless we win almost every game from now til april, we wont be on enough of a hot streak to do anything.

im not a total fan of trading good players for picks, especially in our case, its not a TOTAL rebuild, its building a wiser more cohesive team around a few core players..and for the love of god, someone who can score other than gabby

by LIrangersfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s one or the other… rebuild or compete. This team, as currently constructed, has some key pieces in between all the fat on the roster. Every successful team has been built though the draft and had to suffer through a few seasons of pain to achieve their goal. Ownership and management seem to think it will take 5 years of lost revenue to rebuild a competitor. Not true. The Pens, Blackhawks, and Caps all took about two years to make it to the playoffs and looks where they are now. The Wings, having an already established team in the early 2000’s, plotted a perfect transition that allowed players like Zetterberg and Datsyuk to develop and take over the team after Steve Y. Look at the Avs this year. The Kings have taken a bit more time than the aforementioned teams, but Lombardi has stuck to his plan and the Kings are set to challenge for the Western Conference title for many years to come. Only time will tell what Burke moves will mean in Toronto, but at least there seems to be a method to his madness. Burke has a vision of team and knows what players he needs to fulfill certain roles. Meanwhile, the Rangers make moves for the sake of moves or address one issue at the cost of another, only to put an amalgam of players that barely mesh. This is a team without a plan. If this team can develop young players around guys like Cali, Dru, Dubi, Hank, MDZ, Staal, and Gabs, this team can go a long way. Plugging in young, skilled, and hungry players around that base can have this team on it’s way up in two years and competing for the cup in 3. We all know what has to be done. Do I condone tanking the rest of this season?… YES! Will it happen?… NO. What will we see next season? Jokinen resigned to a 7 million dollar contract till he’s 50 (No offense to Olli).

by motherpucker on Mar 6, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

I think you can rebuild and be competitive and maybe even make the playoffs. The Rangers need to finish dead last, get a top 3 pick. In the NHL, you really have to suck to not make the post season. You know, the Rangers blew in the late 90’s to the tune of like 6 yrs no playoffs. Did that really help though? Were the drafts that bad? They need a top pick, that would restore moral, losing in the first round is nothing to really build on. Considering this team will look totally different starting next season, it is irrelevant of players build on going to the first round of the playoffs.

by earthworm on Mar 6, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Colorado for what it’s worth rebuilt for like one season—last year, getting Duchene. Phoenix, same deal.

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by red army line on Mar 6, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

even if we make the playoffs we are going to get destroyed in the first or second round. it’s sort of a moot point. But maybe failing to make the 8th seed will shock rangers management into making a move for that centerman and dirty winger we need. But then again, knowing the rangers, that move will probably cause a young guy to leave the club and two has-beens to arrive.

by Massi on Mar 6, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

plus, we better hurry up because Hank is already 28, in 5 years or so he might be losing his ability to compete

by Massi on Mar 6, 2010 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

I have been an advocate for "selling" for quite some time

This team is going no place fast.

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by Scent of a Woman on Mar 6, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

There is one decision to be made...

And that is if everyone is sick of being 8th-seed mediocre. I am, which is why missing the playoffs might not be a bad thing.

I feel that this team is like an old used car that is in good shape. Sure, we can run it into the ground and probably make the playoffs, but if we do that and then just buy another used car, what good is that over the long term?

The problem is, above all, that players don’t go easy for an ideal place in the standings. The Rangers are in the playoff hunt, and thats how it will be until the final day of the season.

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by Rob Luker on Mar 6, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Can I just say I’m so thankful for the sweet deal Dallas provided us on Avery. He just seems a little out of focus, not always bringing that edge. If he were in any contract limbo this offseason or being paid the full amount I’m afraid he’d be a prime candidate for departure (but who isn’t besides Lundy?) We allknow when Avery is playing with purpose. As one of his biggest supporters, I just haven’t seen it on an every game basis. So what is it:
1. Head case distractions on and off ice
2. The officials. (he’s marked, but like a criminal- you develop a rep.)
3. Torts. (minutes and line combos are irratic)

Thats all I got.

by IAMARANGER16 on Mar 6, 2010 1:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

 If they came in last, I’d be overjoyed to get a top three pick, yet the fan in me is constutionally incapable of rooting against them on a nightly basis. It’s not logical, but that’s the nature of being a fan.

by mike1967 on Mar 6, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

i.e. Your new-york-knicks.

by IAMARANGER16 on Mar 6, 2010 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

not true cause the knicks rarely have their own pick for it to matter, lol.

by mleetch352 on Mar 6, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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