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Matt Cook's Suspension

 

        Okay, well I'm not sure if anyone will agree to what I am about to say and if you do, I'd like to get your thoughts on this. Matt Cook's recent love of head hunting has put him in a suspension situation again. Now we all know from earlier on in our season Arty was hit in the head by Cook but was able to get off the ice, but was having some major headaches after the hit.  Cook has been know as a repeat-offender for hits like this, I believe 3 this year alone. GM's are getting together to have a meeting about head hunting, hits-to-the-head, and players who are repeat-offenders (Matt Cook). Mark Savard is out indefinitely because of the hit, and they're saying he's not getting better.

          We've all talked about what the repercussions should be for such hits and the players who are head hunting. Some suspensions now include the following: 2+ games with a lose of pay or  a straight suspension. We all know this is bull-crap. Those are a slap on the hand and a big "no" kinda like the ones you got from your parents growing up. Personally I believe that there should be at least a 3 tier system. You pretty much go to the "3 strikes and your out" rule.

First Offense- Suspended for as long as player is out without pay.

Second Offense- Suspended for the year with only a half years pay, or if late enough in the year your pay is revoked completely.

Last Offense- Suspended indefinitely without pay, and must have a hearing with the NHLPA and GM's to decide whether or not you should be allowed back in the NHL.

 

        These might sound unbelievably drastic or crazy, but if you look at it and think about those repercussions,  most players might actually back off on the head hunting. I don't know about anyone else, if i saw those were the rules and repercussions for head hunting I'd still check and everything else but I'd make sure i didn't take anyone's head off. That's just my point of view, if you guys have anything better let me know, I'd love to see your ideas and thoughts.

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part of me agrees with you about your suspensions…however i think penalties of this magnitude might stop players from hitting all together which would hurt the game. If you keep these penalties to head hunting and not any hit that gets a player injured i think i am on board for a rule like this. Head hunting doesn’t belong in this game

by nutz_35 on Mar 9, 2010 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

i don't know if it would hurt hitting overall.

there are certain guys whose names we keep hearing paired with ‘headshot’ and it seems those players are the ones who are pushing the envelope, not necessarily the result of a bang-bang play where guys are out of control and can’t help but hit a guy high.

when we’re talking about lives and multi-million dollar livelihoods, i don’t really know that there can be too much caution when dealing with players taking severe blows to the head.

On his property, Mr. Frazier has created a number of places to unwind — or as he said, "just chill."

by inventor frank on Mar 9, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I personally believe that any blind-side shoulder/forearm/elbow to the head that results in an in-game injury should require:
1 – a game-misconduct
2 – a minimum 2 game suspension (what happens if the player is knocked out briefly but returns the next game?)
3 – if the player does not return, then the player who caused the injury is suspended for as long as the injured player is out.

Frankly – with a zero tolerance policy like that – you’re unlikely to need a ’second or third offense option".

Now – having said that – I don’t particularly understand why players can’t take some responsibility for their own safety. For example, someone like Chris Drury who’s suffered multiple head-hits/concussions should – on his own – be wearing the M11 helmet with a full face shield. If he doesn’t – shame on him.

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by dbmaven on Mar 9, 2010 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

so what happens if a player like drury gets a concussion and is forced to retire? i dont think its fair to make the other player retire as well

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by Moshe52792 on Mar 9, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

year suspension maybe?…i agree that those players should be wearing those m11 helmets but with those head shots those helmets wouldnt have helped

by nutz_35 on Mar 9, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

With a full face shield – either mesh/cage style or clear plexiglass – it would definitely help – no body contact with the head/face.

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by dbmaven on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Youth Hockey Players Get Concussions Too...

So Cage/Shield may not be a perfect solution…but it does give you better odds.

Blunter than Sather's Cigars....

by Jersey BlueshirtFan on Mar 10, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

if there's a pattern of headshots

and one of them results in another player losing his career, then there isn’t any place for them in the nhl. nobody owes these goons a living, least of all an nhl franchise.

On his property, Mr. Frazier has created a number of places to unwind — or as he said, "just chill."

by inventor frank on Mar 9, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t say that I disagree with that.

I really don’t think it would ever come to that. But if it did – tough luck – you’re outta here.

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by dbmaven on Mar 9, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a tricky situation though

because while there are plenty of head hunters, and dirty hits, how many times do we see (like in football), a guy make himself vulnerable by lowering his head and taking a shoulder to the head instead of the chest? While there are plenty of dirty hits, it isn’t always the hitters fault.

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by nrmax88 on Mar 9, 2010 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

That’s why there’s video review of them.

Think of it this way, remember that Mike Richards hit on David Booth? Booth’s head was up, Richards could have hit him square in the chest, but Richards stuck out his shoulder, jumped just prior to contact, and smoked him clean in the head. It’s all about intent, and the hitter’s actions.

Just watched this one. Cooke could have easily moved over and given Savard and good, solid body check. But he coasted by and jabbed out his elbow right into his head. You could easily tell Cooke wasn’t going for a clean check because he didn’t brace himself or change his skating lane. He just coasted by and flicked out his arm.

Same thing on the Anisimov hit, which was more like Richards. He left his feet with the intention of putting his shoulder in Arty’s head. Could have easily moved over for a hard body to body hit, but he went for the cheap side-swipe attempt at the head again. This last hit should’ve been strike 2.

Should be 10 games, regardless. Every subsequent intentional blow to the head, add another 10 games. After the 4th, throw them out for a couple of years.

People, concussions are something that will affect a player throughout their life. Players can hit without going for the head. It’s blatantly obvious when it’s intentional.

by Caerid11 on Mar 10, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I like these ideas and have been commenting similar things on youtube about headhits. I think the only way to stop repeat offenders or players who are malicious (doing it with intent and not a collision) should be hit themselves in the pocket where it hurts. These guys are blessed with advantage of being about to have a bare fist fight with any opponent and basically get nothing happen to them, instead they take the route of a cheap shot which is completely gutless and pathetic. No hitting from behind or to the head deliberately period.

by bludgeon213uk on Mar 10, 2010 5:07 AM EST reply actions  

The NFL protects it players, why can the NHL not do this??

by Robert200091 on Mar 10, 2010 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

I think the differenced is in the intent. Cookes hits are intentional, if a player goes out there to injure, she should be $hitcanned, suspended indefinately, thats garbage hockey. ook at Whitney’s hit on Neil from last night……it was a cross check to the ear, but you’ll notice Whitney is looking at the play, not Neil……not intentional hit….he got 2 minutes for it. but ppl will be calling for his head….Cooke is a barely mediocre player who has changed games by going after very good players like Savard. I think he should be out as long as Savard is. It was intentional.

by earthworm on Mar 10, 2010 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Wait till some one does that to Cindy…..then the NHL will crack down…….I think Avery should be that guy.

by earthworm on Mar 10, 2010 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Wait till some one does that to Cindy…..then the NHL will crack down…….I think Avery Redden should be that guy.

;-)

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by dbmaven on Mar 10, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

++++++1!

Blunter than Sather's Cigars....

by Jersey BlueshirtFan on Mar 10, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao +1.. earthworm is right tho. that player would be suspended for the year if not more.

let redden do it.. thats killing 2 birds with 1 stone

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Mar 10, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Should we put a bounty on Cindy Crosby? I don’t know why I wrote “she” above. Redden is a better choice than we can watch Talbot and Avery praying mantis style fight each other.!!! nice

by earthworm on Mar 10, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

The tricky thing about a suspension matching the length of time a player’s out is that team’s could utilize it. You’d need an impartial doctor to identify the length of time for recovery (what a crappy world where you’d have to do that, but anyway…).

In light of the recent suspensions handed out, the non-suspension makes no sense regardless. Lapierre’s hit? Dangerous, could have resulted in a concussion or worse. Cooke’s hit? Dangerous, left a player with a concussion (and possible worse). Hmmm…

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by Bettman's Nightmare on Mar 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

No suspension on Cooke

Pittsburgh Penguins winger Matt Cooke has escaped suspension for a hit to the head of Marc Savard that knocked out the Boston Bruins center.

Matt Cooke

Cooke

NHL disciplinarian Colin Campbell made the announcement Wednesday at the general managers meeting in Boca Raton, Fla. Penguins GM Ray Shero also confirmed the news to ESPN.com via e-mail.

Cooke delivered a blindside hit with his shoulder to Savard in the third period of Sunday’s game. Savard was taken away on a stretcher and has been disagnosed with a Grade 2 concussion. He is out indefinitely, and Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli has said Savard could possibly miss the remainder of the season.

by Lunkwill Fook on Mar 10, 2010 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it’s absolutely shameful.

by Lunkwill Fook on Mar 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

thats an abomination to the league…they flubbed this. More hits like this to come.

by earthworm on Mar 11, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

That hit was such a blatant shot to the head, what I wrote earlier

“Just watched this one. Cooke could have easily moved over and given Savard and good, solid body check. But he coasted by and jabbed out his elbow right into his head. You could easily tell Cooke wasn’t going for a clean check because he didn’t brace himself or change his skating lane. He just coasted by and flicked out his arm.

Same thing on the Anisimov hit, which was more like Richards. He left his feet with the intention of putting his shoulder in Arty’s head. Could have easily moved over for a hard body to body hit, but he went for the cheap side-swipe attempt at the head again. This last hit should’ve been strike 2."

If anybody needed more evidence as to the blatant pro-Pens NHL, here it fucking is. Excuse me whilst I go vomit.

by Caerid112 on Mar 10, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, this was meant as a reply to Lunkwill’s last post.

by Caerid112 on Mar 10, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

UNREAL

blatent head shot,plus his past?? The theatric mastermind Corey Haim dies,then this???? unbeleivable.

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by JM82 on Mar 10, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

nhl and colin cambells suspension decisions are a joke… if crosby got hit like that the player but be out for the whole season

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Mar 10, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

this is absolutely ridiculous

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Mar 10, 2010 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

theatric mastermind You made my day!!

by earthworm on Mar 11, 2010 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

well

at least colin campbell isn’t still nyr head coach

On his property, Mr. Frazier has created a number of places to unwind — or as he said, "just chill."

by inventor frank on Mar 11, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

the nhl is pathetic

by nutz_35 on Mar 11, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

New article on Yahoo about it

I don’t know who they’re talking about here. “Cooke was suspended two games this season for a hit to the head of Rangers center Atrium Animism.”
Here’’s the link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AikJSFi3Nxu7O2D8gtNLtgt7vLYF?slug=ap-penguins-cookehit&prov=ap&type=lgns

by WalkerNYRanger on Mar 11, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

I saw that – cracked me up.

They’re talking about his hit on Artem Anisimov. And my suspicion is that whatever spellchecker they use recommended those “corrections”……..

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by dbmaven on Mar 11, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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