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To begin this I need to state that everything I tried to do is completely dependent on the demotion of Redden. This is at best unlikely so I will say that this is a bit of a fantasy situation (I also sent Voros to Hartford for cap purposes). That being said, here is what I would like to see happen.
Re-sign:
- Marc Staal: 3.500 mil per--> 10 yrs/35 million (not sure is this would get it done but I would really like to see Sather sign Staal to a lifetime type deal)
- Dan Girardi: 2.250 mil per--> 4yrs/9 million
- Ilka Heikenen: 1.000 mil per-->1yr/1 million
- Alex Auld: 1.000 mil per--> 1yr/1 million
- Erik Christiansen: .900 mil per--> 3yrs/2.7 million
- Brandon Prust: .750 mil per--> 3 yrs/2.25 million
- Jody Shelly: .750 mil per--> 1yr/.750 million
- Corey Potter: .750 per--> 1yr/.750million
Trade:
- Michael Rozsival
- Matt Gilroy
- Ryan Borque
- 1st Round pick 2011
for
- Brad Richards
- James Neal
- 3rd Round pick 2010 or 2011
Dallas:
Saves 1.1 million on Richards salary plus whatever it would take to sign Neal. Also receives top 4 defenseman in Rozsival (he would be in their division), a young skilled defenseman in Gilroy, and an up and coming scorer in Borque, all while gaining a 1st rd pick for next year.
New York:
Recieves #1 center in Richards to work with Gaborik who will not cripple us financially in the future because only 1 yr remains on his contract. If combo works well we can resign Richards at the right price and if not use his expiring deal to sign Dubinsky and Callahan to long term deals. James Neal also provides a promising you top-6 forward.
Free Agent Signings:
- Anton Volchenkov: 4.000 mil per--> 5yrs/ 20 million
- James Neal: 3.000 mil--> 4yrs/12 million
Trade Sanguinetti and our 2010 1st to move up to top 7 picks and draft Nino Niederterr. I really am not sure what it would take to move up to a pick that would ensure us getting Nino but I would really love to see Sather be aggressive and make that move.
Analysis:
Following this path would allow the Rangers to be extremely competitive this season while also retaining our most promising prospects. Kreider, Stepen, Grachev, Werek and McDonaugh would all remain within our system. Our defensive prospects do take a hit with departure of Gilroy and Sanguinetti, but in all honesty these two most likely did not have strong futures within the Rangers organization and at least we get solid value for them. Trading up for Nino puts another possible top-6 forward into our system giving some relief for an otherwise miserable season.
The trade with Dallas is the most controversial part here. I am sure I will take a lot a crap for wanting to add Richards. When analyzed however the deal makes sense on both sides. Dallas is a cash strapped organization who will get two top-4 defensemen, a promising young playmaker and 1st rd pick all while saving around 5 million dollars. If their season started off poorly Richards would become the Kovalchuk of next years deadline and Dallas wouldn't get as much then as they are here. While the rangers will get a #1 center that many have been craving who will not cripple us financially in the future as his contract is up after one season. If he clicks and has some magic with Gaborik and lifts Dubinsky to new levels on the wing, excellent, re-sign him at a price we can work with. If not, let him walk and use that cap space to sign Dubinsky and Callahan to long term deals while keeping cap space for future years. Neal would be yet another promising top-6 forward that could fit in nicely in the future.
Signing Volchenkov is something I added because of the clamoring for the large crease clearing defensemen. I think that the 4mil a yr that I allotted him could be spent in a wiser manner but I certainly wouldn't be unhappy with his signing. Volchenkov, Staal, MDZ and Girardi would anchor our defense for years to come, Potter and Heikenen are low risk high reward players this season and McDonaugh will take his spot and become a top-4 defenseman hopefully in a year or two.
We come in just about .500 mil under the cap in this situation with 21 players on the roster. Our farm system is still stocked, although admittedly much thinner at the blueline in prospects. Our future financial state would look much brighter with Richards 7.8 mil cap hit coming off at the end of next season.
Projected Lines:
Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Neal-Anisimov-MZA
Avery-EC-Callahan
Shelley-Drury-Prust
Brian Boyle as a healthy scratch.
Pairings:
Staal-Girardi
Volchenkov-MDZ (maybe volchenkov could teach mdz something about positioning on the d end)
Potter-Heikenen
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Considering when I first started to read this I thought your idea would be outta this world crazy but not bad. I do like your Idea of richards and neal would love ny and vice versa. This biggest pipe dream would be demoting reds And voros, but the Dallas trade isn’t extreme which we can apreciate and trading up In the draft is a must I think but I as well do not know what it would take but overall like it. Some are going to hate and say your crazy none of the above would happen but it can with first placing redden in the minors, because if and when that does happen you better believe that sathers going to pick up his phone and take out his check book and start trading and signing.
by klh2009 on Apr 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why would we move up 7 spots to draft a guy that is going to go in the 7-10 range…?
If any of the top 2 teams drafts Fowler (aka going for a defensemen instead of a forward) either Taylor or Tyler will be open at the 3 spot. So why would we draft Nino then?
And why are we trading Ryan Bourque who looked great in the Q also? These trades for big name players (by the way Dallas would NEVER take that trade) and creating massive roster turnover are part of the reason ranger fans bitch about not having chemistry EVERY YEAR.
Wow, I just realized you think Sangs and a first will get us Florida’s pick. If you meant trade up 3 spots to get Nino then I can see that maybe happening if Slats locked Jim Rutheford in a closet and wouldn’t let him out until we got that pick…
by xcdudesquad on Apr 28, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not sure how this creates massive roster turnover. I actually took that into account while creating this. 12 of these players were with the big club for the majority of the year last year. 3 others were with the team for at least part of the season and fit right in. two others were in ahl growing within our system. that means that 17 of the 21 people i have on next years roster were under our control last year. that is very little movement on a professional roster. Next i didnt say move up 7 spots, and didnt even mention florida, i said move into the #7 pick range to ensure we get Nino.
Why do you think dallas would never make that trade? what do you think would have to be added to make it work?
by BronxBeliever on Apr 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree BronxBeliever, xcdudesquad is an idiot.
first he says why give up a good player like borque, then he says dallas wont do it cause we are not giving up enough good players. Makes sense. And also its pretty clear Fowler is not gonna go top 2, I can guarentee that right now
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Apr 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why shouldn’t we give up Bourque? Did you watch the WJC because he’s a damn good prospect and should be a great addition to the New York Rangers in the future. As for the Dallas trade they aren’t going to trade their top scorer who clearly rebounded from and injury ridden season and Neal (who scored 27 goals as a second year player in the league) for Rozsival (salary concerns), Gilroy (who wasn’t that great and has little trade value), Bourque (who I don’t agree with tradeing, but Dallas would want a higher up prospect in our system say Stepan for their top center and their second highest goal scorer) and a 1st (yeah they’d want this in 2010 though).
As for the roster turnover there are 6 players changing in this roster. That’s 1/3 of our offense (not counting the 2 goalies we carry), which is a massive turnover.
I’ll conceed the moving up to the 3rd spot, I misread your post. “Trade Sanguinetti and our 2010 1st to move up to top 7 picks” sounded like to top were typos and you mean up 7 picks. Sorry about that, and I agree about moving up a few spots to draft Nino who I love.
@Bradshaw, Fowler COULD go 2nd overall if the Bruins trade. Not saying he is, saying he COULD because he has that talent. I’d say he is definitely a top 5 pick, but if a team wants a defemsen they are taking Fowler in a heartbeat. As for the trade, why are you so quick to agree to abandon on Bourque on a trade that is ludicrous for the Stars? And no I did not say “why give up a good player like borque, then he says dallas wont do it cause we are not giving up enough good players.” because I thought the trade was never going to go through in the first place and was wondering why someone was inclined to trade one of our better prospects from this year.
by xcdudesquad on Apr 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t normally waste sangs on moving up a few spots, but becuase he doesn’t appear to have a great future here and the MAJOR talent pool in this draft is from 1-6th, I would agree with that decision. The Dallas trade would never in a million years happen. For Neal alone you would have to give up Dubi, Gilroy, and 2nd pick(s).
I liked what I saw of Volchenkov in the playoffs. Signing him, as long as its under 4.5, wouldn’t be a bad idea.
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by Scratch and Snif on Apr 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Only thing I do not agree with is Volchenkov signing
would not want to be so close to cap next year again, would want to be able to have 7 defensemen also. And to be picky I would rather include Sangs then Gilroy in the Dallas deal, and then not trade up as I say if we cant get Seguin or Hall its not worth it, we will get a very good prospect at 10 regardless. Then we can also keep Potter as the 7th Defensemen. But overall your plan makes sense especially the Dallas trade.
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Apr 28, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
That would be a really nice trade, cant see why Dallas would do it. Richards did just have surgery to repair a torn Labrum, he only has one year left, I doubt they would have any interest in Rosi you would have to throw in like DUBI and Grachev. Neal is only 22 in the league 2 yrs with 2 20 goal seasons. He isnt going anywhere. I could see them unloading Richards, Ribeiro and Morrow not their young talent unless the return was high
Why would you resign Girardi? He is an anchor for sure!
Nino could go as high as 4, Columbus strength in prospects is on D and LW, they need RW talent and could skip on the top 3 d and go Nino. Florida is another team that is strong on D light on fwd prospects.
Volchenkov will be expensive think Ottawa will lock him up. Phillips is getting old.
i agree that we would not be gettin that dallas trade to go through. wed have to give that up to get richards alone, neal is their future. we get all flustered when people talk of trading cally and dubs and hes better than both.
i like the idea of trading up in the draft bc we are so stocked with d-prospects and only half are gonna make it to broadway so you gotta make sure to get max value out of some of these kids while their still young high potential prospects
dont like the idea of volchenkov. i like him as a player but i feel like is is goin to get overpaid and we’ve got too many overpaid d-men allready, and staal’s gonna have to get his $.
the day redden gets sent down to hartford is the day im gonna have to change my drawers bc there is gonna be some kind of accident goin on down there from the jubilation i feel from the news
Great post. I really liked your thinking. It’s definitely a pipe dream, but it was interesting reading.
The one thing though is I dont think Staal will sign a 10 year contract at 3.5million. He’s supposed to become a top shutdown defenseman and is well on his way. I think he’ll take a shorter contract of about 3-5 I would figure. Either that or Sather will give him a stopgap contract of 1 year.
The other thing is I would hate to see Sather sign a young player to a lifetime contract anyway. How did that work out for the Islanders and DiPietro?
I don’t have a problem with signing Staal Lifetime. He deserves it and I want him as a Ranger for his entire career.
I don’t think 10 years at 3.5 is going to be enough though. 10 years 45 mil?
BTW Excellent post.
Lundqvist-Staal-MDZ-McDonagh-Krieder-Stepan-MZA-Cally-Dubi-Gabby-AA-Grachev.
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by 76 Blueshirt on Apr 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I do like the deal with Dallas, but I would actually put Girardi in it instead of Gilroy. Call me crazy, but I’d rather a mobile defenseman like Gilroy who could be moved to forward if need be.
The only one I wouldn’t resign is Christensen. I believe he could be replaced with a few guys: Burish from the ’Hawks, Wellwood from the Canucks, and even move Cally to center. Christensen played well, and has earned a spot somewhere (his playing career should in NO WAY be over).
I would not trade Sanguinetti. I can see you moving up without having to move him. To be honest, seeing the mock draft, I actually like Forbort. If a deal can be struck to move up into the top 5 or 6, I could see the Rangers drafting Gudbranson (hope I’m spelling it right); and if we can go lower, I’ll love to see them get McIlrath.
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Christensen played the 2nd hardest competition while here. Burish (?!?!?!) and Wellwood play against 3rd line competition and weren’t as productive.
If you take out the first 7 games where he was getting sporadic playing time, EC put up 26 points in 42 games, a 51 pt pace, again, against top opponents. That’s not easy to do.
Not signing him would be slightly crazy. Replacing him with Adam Burish (who has less career points than EC had just this year) would be complete insanity.
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by George E. Ays on Apr 29, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Burish? I like EC, I don’t think he’s a permanent guy here, but he’s a good enough, cheap placeholder in our line-up until the prospects are ready to claim a spot.
He’s a weird player…he seems to thrive with top teammates, even against top competition.
But he seems to suck with 3rd line minutes, even against 3rd line comp.
He’s a solid player on this roster though, to not bring him back after this production this year would be slightly foolish.
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by George E. Ays on Apr 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Depending on what we do-I think he comes back for a short time. Either he plays 1st line C (unless we get Pleks long-term or Demitra for 1 year, if we draft a C like Johansen they won’t be ready IMO), or maybe 2nd line winger with AA and a good scoring winger (we’ve gone over 10 at least who could come in). Or Cally moves up to 2nd line with AA/scoring winger and we have Aves/Dru/EC (unless Zucchini or Grachev comes up).
He deserves a shot though if there’s a spot-he’s cheap too, especially if Redden/Rosi stay here.
Fellas...
isn’t that why Christensen was brought here? To be a replacement to a spot in the lineup that just didn’t have production?
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Well, yes
And he produced. So why get rid of him?
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by George E. Ays on Apr 29, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Why not try and keep a lot of the guys we have who clearly meshed together (aka Prospal-EC-Gabby)
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Not sure your point, but I think you just re-stated my point-originally you stated you didn’t wish for EC to be re-signed because his spot can be filled with other players. That’s fine, it’s not like EC really lit it up. But in terms of this team, especially if we don’t shed any of the albatross contracts, is just about a perfect fit as you can get for a salary-cap strapped team. He’ll provide some offense and can play center, and seems to play well with our top players, and he’ll probably make less than 1m.
Bourque’s had some early concussion issues so I really don’t see other teams giving up quality young players who are already NHL-established for him. Players with concussion histories usually have it come back to haunt them (look at guys like Gagne/Bergeron..both young guys who are very prone since they’ve had numerous knocks, and one more good one could be career-ending for each).
I don’t see Dallas doing this at all because Neal is one of those young core guys like Ryan/Backstrom/Pavelski that you build your future around. Dallas is around 36m next season, and down to 23m after that. They’d be taking almost the same cap hit for next year in taking on Rosi/Gilroy’s contract. With Modo/Let leaving, they’re looking to rebuild.
You’re pretty much hoping they’d want to trade that 1st rounder for Neal. I really doubt them doing it since Neal’s an established guy, they’d be taking on cap hit with Roszival’s deal for next year.
Good proposal though-Richards is interesting since it’s an expiring deal-I think they’d be more interested in taking less money back in any deal.
yeah Richards would look really good next to Gabby, he is a great guy on pp and a 1st class setup guy.
This is an aside...
but I have a question for you, Caerid112?
I’m curious, as it is regards to the Hawks’ cap for next season.
Is it possible that the ’Hawks could do these two hypothetical deals to fit under the cap:
Deal Campbell to the Lightning for Meszaros or the Panthers for Ballard.
And…
Deal Byfuglien, Bolland, and Sharp to NYR for Roszival, Girardi, Weise, and a draft choice for next year.
I’m suggesting these to knock 6.265 million off, as they currently incapable of signing even their own players to smaller tenders. Looking at guys like Ladd, Skille, Bickell, etc….things are going to get sticky for them.
Just throwing this out there. Curious to your thoughts.
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