USA v. England Open Game Thread
by Joe Fortunato on Jun 12, 2010 8:14 AM EDT
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The United States will open up their world play today at 2:30 against the mighty power of England. The United States--who will be hoping to get out of the group stages since for the first time since 2002--start off the World Cup with a bang.
I don't care if you think soccer is stupid (cough, Jim, cough) and I don't care if you don't want to participate in this open game thread; but this is the World Cup. It's the biggest stage in sports, period. They estimate that one billion people will watch the events this year. That's not a typo, one BILLION.
Anyway enough from me. Use this as your open game thread for the US game, and the rest of the matches today!
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I didn’t know there were any soccer fans here. How fantastic. I hope that US soccer develops even faster than it already hsa.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Going by the numbers
Since we’re talking about numbers….
75% of US adults have read a bible passage in the last year.
Justin Beiber has been the top trending topic on twitter this year
American Idol has been the #1 rated show on TV for 6 years running – I feat no other show has ever accomplished.
Should we expect these non-Ranger topics to get open threads too???
In defense of the event, I woke up at 7:00 to watch “Korea Fighting”, and will probably have the game on later. Still to put this event in perspective. The World Cup, that happens once every 4 years and is “the biggest event in the world” watched by a BILLION people will rake in, best possible result, $3.5 billion. The NFL made $8 billion last year, broadcasting a sport that we are pretty much the only people who watch.
by BuckarooClub on Jun 12, 2010 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You don't have to join the thread if you don't want to
no need to be a jerk about it though. This is the dog days of the off-season, we provide daily coverage of everything New York Rangers. A few days of USA coverage won’t kill you. Especially since it’s the World Cup.
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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 12, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
he was trying to make a point Joe, he wasnt being a jerk in any way
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
What point?
That 83.5% of internet forum statistics are made up on the spot
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by Prometheus74 on Jun 12, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry Ahmad
but asking if we’re going to open up a “Justin Beiber” thread is being a bit of a jerk. There is not point to be made there. It’s the world cup, it merits an open thread. No need for comments like that.
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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he was trying to make the point that the world cup is the biggest international sports event…which it definitely is…and im happy we have this thread cuz we should be supporting the US to the fullest…its threads like these that make this site that much better than others
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As I said in my post, I was up at 7AM watching the world cup, and plan on watching the US game later today. If you want to have an open thread, cool. It’s the off-season, it’s a big event for the country, and most importantly – it’s your blog!
If anything, I was poking a little bit of good natured fun at the logic that since over a billion people will watch this event there should be an open thread. As I’ve already pointed out, there are plenty of better jusifications for it. Hope that clears things up.
by BuckarooClub on Jun 12, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i understood what you were saying Buckaroo, apparently a few others had some trouble comprehending it
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
$8B worth of ads
The NFL does play us for suckers, don’t they?
France should’ve won yesterday
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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 12, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
But they didn’t and I’m SOOOOO happy. All my friends were wearing french scarves, jerseys, and chanting at random times in class. They came to school early to put up flags, and skipped our last class to go watch the game at the restaurant right next to us. I’m gonna keep on trashtalking them.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Soccer sucks but...
I’m still rooting for the US to kick some serious a$$. Lol
by b4mv01 on Jun 12, 2010 10:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How can you say soccer sucks? Its alot like hockey you know.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
slower, less action, less physical, field is a bit too long, but other than that your right.
And i am not being sarcastic, that is the first thing i noticed when I started watching some world cup games. I compared to the ultimate trap hockey. Too often players are content giving up control of the ball just protecting scoring areas
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We haven’t seen any good teams yet. English soccer sucks, they just counter and cross, Argentina is close to decent. You have to watch brazilian or spanish soccer. Its all about possession, beautiful passing, and artistic ball movement.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Tuesday for brazil, wednesday for spain
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Its idiotic to suggest the world cup isn’t worthy of an open thread. In fact, I came here today anticipating there’d be one – and here it is. Just one more reason this site is bookmarked on my browser – always relevant. Amen boys.
by schwartzy on Jun 12, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd be here but...
GOIN TO WATCH THIS AT THE LOCAL PUB YEEEE HAWW USA USA USA
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Hoping for the draw. Rooney will be tough to contain considering gooch is not 100%. Howard is going to have to play like a man possessed if we are to get a result today.
by BroadwayBlue30 on Jun 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
Lets beat those Brits and poke fun at their teeth
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I never said it was stupid
I said it was boring.
Final score: 2-1…….always.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 12, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO!!!! The guy in the ABC Studio predicted a 2-1 game,
The other guy predicted a 1-1 draw, how exciting :)
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 Jim, LOL. There is nothing worse than a tie, that is true. Gotta be a way to do like 5-5 soccer for a 10 or 15 minute extra time to get a winner. That probably wouldn’t actually work I am just saying, you gotta try to eliminate or at least minimize those ties
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya i thought it would be 2-1 off a late england goal. It almost happened.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
we were actually aiming for a tie.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
thats just a sign of weakness and a complete bullshit idea to me. scared of england that you wanna just tie them and not win and hope you dont lose? Weak as hell. There should be no ties in sports, especially the “most important tournament in the world”. I tried to watch the game and completely lost interest after 3 mins I just dont udnerstand it & I hated playing the game as well and thats when I was the kid scoring goals for my team in gym class
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Weakness and bulsshit? Modesty and realism. If the US goes all out and attacks, they lose, don’t get a single point, and may not even get past the group stages. Instead, we play a moderate game, assure ourselves a point, keep England within range in the rankings. Does Uzbekistan expect to beat Russia in the IIHF WC? They’d be oblivious if they did. They’d play defensive hockey, try to steal a tie. Same thing happened here.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Its pathetic. I dont know about you but I didnt play sports to tie
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Scratch and Snif is right, the whole country would be up and arms and pissed off that we lost to England, but as always we are a bunch of greedy jerks and have to bitch about ties as well. I hate ties but will damn well accept them instead of a loss, especially in this case.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 14, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
this tie between england and the usa got me thinking about the shootout in hockey…i think its run its course with nhl and it brought some interest to the game but i think its unfair to make a shootout win equal a win in regulation…i personally think we should get rid of the shootout and after a 4 on 4 we move on to a 3 on 3 and make a win 3pts and a tie 1pt so the teams will for sure go for the win and not just the tie…what do you guys think?
NO TIES. they are horrible. Make it 3 pts for regulation win, 2 pts for overtime or shootout win, and more teams will stop playing for the shootout. hopefully.
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
20 mins of 4-4, 20 mins of 3-3. Its almost impossible that nothing happen in that time. After that, if it is required, a shootout. But ya I agree, 3 points for regulation win, 2 points for OT win, 1 point for OT loss, 0 for reg. loss
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, 20 mins of both? for regular season games? 40 minutes of “extra time”? i don’t think that would ever happen. I think they would max out at 10, and im not even sure they would go that far
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. The shootouts would stay, so there would never be ties, but shootouts would happen so rarely that no one would complain about them.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
possibly 100 minutes for a regular season game? Good luck w/ that. The time & number of players then shootout is fine, what needs to change is the points. 2 pts for regulation win & 1 pt for OT/SO win. Problem Solved. Losing should not be rewarded cus thats just cheap and doesnt make sense
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100 mins would never happen. Its just a possiblilty. After that much time, teams might jsut choose a loss anyway.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I hate the shoot out. As for the World Cup, its too slow. If I want a slow game, I’m going baseball. The legend of RA Dickey continues…..! Personally, I wish the World Cup was a bandy tournament, but that’s just me….
Soccer is only slow if you’re watching bad teams. Baseball is not only slow, its not a sport. How much time do they spend actually moving in baseball? 10 mins total? 2000 feet walked or run? Soccer players can run as much as 12 miles a game for the full 90 mins.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not just say you don't understand baseball?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand baseball. Generally, when I watch a sport, I see warriors. When I watch baseball, I see guys with skill but not warriors. They’re like buff chessplayers.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well if you're looking for "warriors" I guess not.
I dunno how the hell you could possibly consider soccer a sport then. If a sport is required to have warriors, soccer not only is not a sport…but they might as well be wearing ballerina uniforms
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
backs, swingmen, and holding mids are incredibly tough, strong, and durable. Then there are a few strong strikers like Drogba or Rooney.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, some baseball players are chubby. CHUBBY. What kind of athletes are chubby? And when’s the last time a pitcher has ever run?
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
haha i see your point big time scratch and snif
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the Wells' and Sabathia's of the world probably don't run much
but guys like Nolan Ryan used to run probably as much as soccer players do.
Maybe go get hit in the arm with a 99mph fastball..then walk it off. Or maybe a catcher who gets hit in the chones with a bouncing 95mph.
You gotta be kidding calling these soccer players tough. These flopping babies crying after someone breathes on them..and its all of them.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 13, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
...
I understand where you’re coming from with the whole flopping and acting like babies, but then again it’s a part of the sport – trying to get cards drawn… Just like basketball players and the show they put on, you gotta deal with it. However, saying soccer players might as well be wearing tutus just goes to show your level of ignorance. These guys play year-round and piss on the amount of work baseball players put it.
“Guys like Nolan Ryan used to run PROBABLY as much as soccer players do”…
You can’t be serious? So what if ball players run posts for practice, you don’t think soccer players run multiple miles each day? And that doesn’t even include the amount of running they do in the actual game.
“Maybe go get hit in the arm with a 99 mph fastball.. then walk it off” – how about going and getting cleated in the thigh, kicked in the ribs, or head-butted to the temple and then get right back up to RUN it off. You’re forgetting something here, baseball players get to hang-out in the dugout half the game, not soccer players, and they get one break for the entire game while not being able to sub in and out like most other sports.
I hate to continuously call out your posts ‘Free’, honestly I do, but someone has to.
I got cleated in the thigh my first ever rugby game. it was AWESOME. Luckily, it was on the right side, or I may have been neutered.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And headbutted in the temple. Thats happened to me too.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
what a sport!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 13, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I say that baseball is not a sport because a sport requires athletes. If chubby players can survive, even thrive, its not an incredibly athletic sport. Baseball players would be outclassed by athletes from nearly every other sport short of golf, which I also think is more of a game than a sport. Both baseball and golf require lots of skill, just not that much athleticism.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
the level of ignorance was already stated when stiff called baseball
not a sport. Anything right after that, basically ignorance is the name of the convo here, isn’t it.
I know what goes on in soccer. I know what goes on in baseball.
Just cuz you bang heads, or get cleated (which happens in baseball, did you know that?) doesn’t make it more of a sport. All that stuff you mentioned doesn’t compare. If the dude got hit hard enough in either sport, they’re out of the game anyway.
Yea, baseball players run. Not all are fat, like stiff said.
LOL at trying to call me out from the peanut gallery again. You clearly just quoted but a few pieces and tried to run with it…but that’s really nothing knew for you is it, I guess…..
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 13, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You've missed the point of my post... again
By no means am I saying baseball is not a sport, I just wanted to make an attempt (because it never really gets through to you) to show you that soccer is a tough sport, just as tough as baseball if not tougher.
Yes, of course baseball players run, but to claim that Nolan Ryan PROBABLY runs as much as a soccer player is far from the truth and the definition of an ignorant statement.
LOL and peanut gallery? I had no clue I was mearly a spectator to all the hard work you put in here at SB Nation. You know, I came to this site hoping to ‘Free’ myself from the non-stop left-field posts made by commentators such as yourself, I guess……
LOL
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 13, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The name is SNIF
Pretty sure you did it on purpose. Lets refrain from personal attacks.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
that is...
unless you’re going by the George Carlin dictionary for "sports’.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I follow baseball and watch sometimes, but i agree with you one million percent. Baseball can not be compared to hockey and football. Completely different, and the fact they make so much more money than the people that actually put their body on the line day in day out is absurd
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a great tournament. I like how insanely into it all of these countries get. The hysterical flopping after a trip bugs me…Crosby must be a soccer fan.
Thats really the only thing I hate about soccer. All these theatrics and rehearsed diving have been killing the sport.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 12, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it is sooo annoying. That’s why in hockey you can fight, so pussies like that pay for their bullshit. When someone flops on you to draw a penalty (card?), i can only imagine how much that player wants to kill the flopper
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 12, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They get their just desserts though. Dani alves is a notorious diver, he got fouled in the box in the champions league semi final, but it seemed like he was diving, so the ref gave him a yellow instead of a penalty shot. We ended up losing that game and losing the series on 1 goal. If we had scored that penalty shot, we would have definitely win.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
For any of you knocking the World Cup...
If you don’t care to watch that’s completely fine and your decision. However, if you’re knocking on the tournamnet and the sport you might need a serious reality check. What other ball (puck, bat etc.) can you take anywhere in the world and any kid will know exactly what to do with it? Big deal, that’s only because it’s the oldest and cheapest sport you say? Ok, then let me ask you this, what other sport has stopped wars all over the world just so people can watch this tournament?
It’s sad, but as Americans we can’t and probably will never see how important this game really is.
I think we will at some point. We need a phenom to come out of this country and encourage the youth to keep on playing soccer. Freddy adu would have done the job, but he fizzled into mediocrity.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 13, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
USA definitely needs a star to break out in order for soccer to be taken seriously in this country. The only problem with that is all these gifted kids are taught growing up to play baseball, football, and basketball because that’s what sells in America and it’s all that’s on TV.
We’ve disgraced this game so much we don’t even call it by it’s true name, we decided to give it another sport instead.
A sport that uses a "pointed end spheroid’ / egg, and in which feet are seldom used. As I saw in a funny picture somewhere, it should be called “hand-egg” and not “football”
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