Staal's Extension

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT

I could somewhat understand not having done the extension until they were sure of where the cap would be because we have a lot of players to sign and not a lot of money, but now we know it will be 59.4 million which is more breathing room than expected earlier in the year. Today yet another club signs their guys as Marleau and Pavelski both re-up and yet we are still sitting here with our number 1 d-man without a new contract. It is long past due for this deal to be, so stop playing around and get it done. Also when it finally gets done it better not be another one of those pinch my pennies now 2 yr deals that he keeps doing so he can overspend on someone else's FA. Staal's deal should be no less than 4 years, but hopefully 6+.

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I think you all know how i feel about Marc Staal

He’s my favorite Ranger and he should be a Ranger for life!

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Just sign the freakin guy already!

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions

This is the way Sather works

I’m not saying it’s effective or right, but this is how he does business. He waits

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 24, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions

you forgot to say, with his own guys. he jumps off the first cliff on July 1 to overpay any and everyone.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Duncan Keith-like contract (ca. 2006)

Sign him to the same terms that Duncan Keith was given at the end of the 2006 season. I can’t find them right now, but it would seem appropriate. Keith then earned his long term deal after 3 years of successive improvement, and I think the same could happen with Staal.

by Hoggo on Jun 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions

Pavelski

Signed for just what he’s worth, $4 mi/ 4 years. I expect Setoguchi to get something around $3.5 mil/ 4 years.

I think Keith earned slightly less than $2 mil ($1.9?) and Staal should get about that, with Girardi clocking in around the same.

by Hoggo on Jun 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Seto’s not that valuable. His will prolly be b/e 2.5 and 3mil

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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

He did have a great 2008-2009. That might inflate his salary a bit.

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by red army line on Jun 25, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions

the difference is that first new contract for keith was after his rookie season while Staal has already been in the nhl 3 years so there is no way he signs a 4 yr deal for 1.5 mil a year.

Skip that give him the long deal just for less than Keith got. make him a lifelong ranger 13/40-50

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions

no way...

keiths contract is like 5.5 million until 2023 with a no movement clause…i’d never tie a player up for that long, not even ovechkin. hasn’t anybody learned from dipietro’s contract lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 24, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Read again what I said. Keith’s 2006 (!!!) extension.

by Hoggo on Jun 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions

you think staal after 3 years is going to sign for 4 yrs at 1.5 mil? barker got 3 mil a year last summer, letang got 3.5 for 4 yrs earlier this year. crazy to think he would sign for that.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Tallon overpaid Barker, Letang was supposed to be a #1D two-way stud once Gonchar is out.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly. Both were overpaid. I don’t think the same should be done with Staal, because if he doesn’t progress as expected (ie Letang) then people will call for Sather’s head, all the while forgetting they supported such a contract.

Someone posted elsewhere that a forward’s prime is between 23-27… it seems like a defenseman’s prime is 27-33 (unless you’re Doughty, Myers, or someone of that nature), so why not pay him what he’s worth (to me, that’s only 2mil) instead of overvaluing a projection?

by Hoggo on Jun 24, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Staal’s worth 2m just for his D. He’s worth about 3m, give or take, when you add in what offense he does provide.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Keith signed for $1.475 over 4 years.

Staal played 3 years at 825k, he’s due a bigger raise than $0.5m, just as Keith was due a bigger raise after his initial NHL years. He’s not due the $6m jump and $4m cap hit that Keith is, but probably about half that.

So his cap hit should be around $2.8m, give or take. Give him 5/$14 and be done. If you want him longer, give him 12/$40….just as leetch just said before I could finish typing this sentence.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

why not just 10yrs/30mil

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions

If Staal is smart, he’s not taking $3m for the high majority of his years, if he continues to progress he’ll be worth a decent amount more than that. I’m not sure 12/40 is even enough to get it done, might have to be closer to 12/50.

I’m not up on the RFA/UFA/arbitration year stuff, so I’m not how long a contract allows you to get him signed now and then to a real deal later.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

dont think it is high enough to get him to sign on that long.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

what about girardi? is he worth committing 3 or 4 yrs too if his price was between 2-2.5 annually?

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions

3/6 wouldnt be a bad move.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed i would take that in a heartbeat, but would he? its not too much of a raise for him over last yr

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions

well he didnt exactly have a great year, did he?

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

No he did not

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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

He deserves less than Staal, and depending on length of deal, Staal shouldn’t command more than $3m. So yeah, Girardi shouldn’t get much more than about 3/7

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

but the real issue here is...

that we don’t have too much space to sign him for 5 plus million a year

by b4mv01 on Jun 24, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

show me someone who suggested 5 million a year and then we can talk about it.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions

thats what i think a shut down defenseman that shows signs of an offensive upside deserves. if he signs for less, great. if not thats where i think he should be salary wise.

by b4mv01 on Jun 24, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s why I’d suggest 5/14 or 4/11.5 right now…and when Drury and Redden expire, then you lock him up for the big number.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

i could whole-heartedly agree with this type of a deal

by b4mv01 on Jun 24, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s why I’d suggest 5/14 or 4/11.5 right now…and when Drury and Redden expire, then you lock him up for the big number

Your right about that Smurf. But I say lock him up after Rosival is gone. !2 years 50 mil.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

err 12 years

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Drury expires in 2 years, and maybe Redden will give up and retire by then. So I guess that would work, except after two years he might command even more, if say his offensive game progressed to the 40-45 point range.

That’s why 4-5 years is better, you’ll have a couple of years where he should still be a bargain before he gets to justified cap-crushing himself.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow does Drury’s contract expire the same year as Rosival? Holy crap I thought all this time it was longer.

Even more excited to be a Ranger fan in 2 years.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Drury, Rozi, Avery all same offseason.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

YEAAAAH. I can’t believe Drury only has 2 years left. I just became a little bit less depressed. That means that in 2 years, 11.5 and two valuable roster spots are coming off the books. That’s good to know, because I expect that we’ll have to resign MDZ and Grachev, then Stepan, McD, Kreider (hopefully) and MZA the year after.

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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

it is if he had proven the upside. he has shown flashes which is why he wont get paid like keith now.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

give staal 3.5 for 4 years.. its a fair deal i think. plus at the end of that if he continues to improve hell be in his prime..

id like to see them sign girardi for 2.25 mil for 2-3 years

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by Moshe52792 on Jun 24, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions

has there been any information whatsoever on negotiations. even something saying the talks have begun? im sure sather has spoken to their agents but i would sleep a little better at night having some confirmation of that

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope, the same way you didn’t hear anything about the Backstrom, Plekanec, Marleau, and Pavelski signings. You don’t take that stuff to the media.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Johny Bouychuk has re-signed for 2 years in Boston, though he was RFA not UFA.

Still though, very frustrating to see other teams take care of business so quickly and efficiently. Glenn????!!

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by Jurgennehls on Jun 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions

well we are talking about our biggest RFA so it has merit, lol.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

true that!

He was a good player in the playoffs for Boston too.

It’d be so refreshing to see Sather come out pre draft and announce Staal’s new deal.
Just hope he does pre July….

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by Jurgennehls on Jun 24, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Boychuck got 1.75 mil a year. if that’s the case Staal should get no less than 2.75.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

sorry he got 1.875. 1.75 this year and 2 next year.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Don’t underestimate Boychuk. He’s pretty good and played crazy TOI for Boston down the stretch, 27min+ frequently I think (more than Chara).

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Completely off topic but after reading something on twitter wanted to ask here; if it meant getting rid of redden would you (using the give to receive theory) swap redden and dubinsky for a guy like savard/spezza?

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by Jurgennehls on Jun 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions

Spezza yes, Savard no. I’d rather the 27yr old than the 33 yr old. Both are tempting.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed I would take Spezza, not Savard mainly because of age and concussions. to me it is basically free since the difference b/w Spezza and redden is 500K a year in hit w 1 extra year.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

that said i cant see Ottawa taking Redden back both cause of how he ended there and not enough value/relief. Maybe they would take Rozi since only 2 yrs.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

i would take the spezza deal in a heartbeat as we would be getting something back in a specific need area— # 1 center who isnt that old. savaard i might hold off on but i would give it some serious though. what tweet was this?

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Spezza is a very infuriating player…lackluster backchecker and a bit inconsistent and somewhat of a headcase, though with great offensive skill. Savard is top-3 in helpers since the lockout I think behind Thornton and Crosby (maybe 2nd), and has a much much friendlier cap hit.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

i havent seen spezza play consistently enough to comment on his work ethic on the ice so i will defer to you on that point. I can say that I have seen that with redden though and i will take spezza’s lackluster performance as he can easily be a 30-50-80 guy when he stays on the ice. dubi would be a relatively small price to pay to bring back spezzas talent and loose reddens deal

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I haven’t either, but everyone says it, even at Silver Seven.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Absolutely would take spezza for either Rozi or Redden…..what you get is a 25 goal scorer, a 40 to 50 assist man, and despite what people are saying about lackluster defense, he has been a minus in only 2 of his 7 seasons. one was a minus 3…that said a plus 23, 22, 19 and 26 respectively 1 season broke even at 0

by earthworm on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Staal is an RFA

As I just posted on the “Trade the 10th Pick” post, after July 1st any team can sign Staal to an offer sheet. We can’t be sure that Staal (or his agent) is not the one slowing the negotiations to see if he can get a better price on the open market. Remeber last year, we thought Sather wasn’t signing Dubi, but really it was Dubi’s agent looking for $4 mil a season for 3-4 years.
Based on last years RFA numbers, any team can sign Staal to an offer sheet for less then $3 million and only have to give up a 2nd round pick in 2011. To sign him for $3 – $4.5 mil the compensation would be a 1st and 3rd in 2011. The 2011 draft class is thin, so it’s not alot to ask to give up a 1st and 3rd – espically if the team giving up the picks is planning on being a contender, meaning the 1st rounder is no better then 20th overall.

From Staal’s perspective, he doesn’t seem married to the idea of being a Ranger. I’m not saying he doesn’t like it here, but you don’t hear about him taking in the city the way players like Gabby, Hank, and Avery do. You have to wonder if the chance to play for a contender now, would be too much to pass up. Think about it, Eric and Jordan both have their rings – he has to feel a bit left out at family functions.

by BuckarooClub on Jun 24, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions

i dont disagree with the logic here, but this is why Sather never should have let it get this close. this could have been done in January.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

At the same time, Dubinsky’s negotiations took forever and he wasn’t exactly fighting off the offer sheets, despite the numerous rumors of teams asking for him in trades.

Staal may be different and actually get an offer sheet, but he probably won’t be.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t but that at all. There are plenty of teams out there who could use a consistently effective blue line presence. Staal better be signed by July 1st or he’s gonna get picked off by a team looking to shore up a defensive hole (a.k.a. the Washington Capitals).

by PowerForward on Jun 24, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree

Some team, most likely a contending team, is going to offer a rediculous contract to Marc. It makes no sense to me to have Sather put this off for so long.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

They can’t just “pick him off.” First they have to give him an offer the Rangers won’t just match, and second they have to give up compensation based on that.

So the “ridiculous contract” will quite likely have to get up into the 1st-2nd-3rd range of compensation (4.5m+) to get the Rangers not to match, and I don’t think any team can justify giving up the entire front of next years draft for a player.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Er..

for a player at Staal’s level of play, which is solid 1-way defenseman w/ possible 40 pt upside.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

A team like the Caps who are built to win right now and have a strong minor league system could definately offer Staal over 4 mil per. They could afford the draft picks.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Also...

The Caps are high on Volchenkov and are willing to pay over 4 mil per for him. Who would you rather have. Marc Staal or Volchenkov?

You don’t even have to ask me.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

The Volchenkov thing got squashed, in part because of his asking price, IIRC.

They need to get 4 forwards, a goalie and another defenseman signed for under $15m, and the goalie in question isn’t going to be a cheap one, most likely.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

The goalie is almost certainly Neuvirth from Hershey, so that’s done.

As others have said, the offer has to be crazy high for the Rangers not to match, probably in the 1-2-3 range.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

They’re going to go with just Varlamov and Neuvirth? I’ll take your word for it as the resident Caps fan here, but that seems really surprising all things considered.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

they could easily offer staal 7/31.5 and happily give up a first and third. he would become part of the core with backstrom and ovech, and they could trade semin to get some draft picks back, and they would gain cap flexibility. After seeing buff fetch a first and a second staal would definetly get an offer sheet for 1st and 3rd

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Rangers would and should probably match at 7/31.5.

That long a deal represents closer to the 12/50 that some have proposed is a good idea already.

I didn’t look up the exact number, they’ll likely match up to the point of 1-2-3 compensation, unless it’s short term.

So if the caps offer 3/13.5, then you might have a problem, IMO

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions

well i think either way the would have to match, it would just suck to have to demote that much to him when hes only like 22 years old, he should be a bargain for a few more years

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m fairly sure—GM George McPhee basically said the expectation is that 3 or four guys who spent time in Hershey this past season will be full time NHLers in 2010-2011, and we have Carlson, Alzner, and Neuvirth as the top-3 on our lists (Mathieu Perreault next).

The general idea is that the Caps need a good second line center as #1 priority and then a top-4 D as a #2, though I don’t know how McPhee sees it.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Well Carlson, Alzner and Neuvirth all make sense, they’ve all shown NHL-caliber talent.

Just surprising that he’s just going to go with just Varlamov and Neuvirth, it seemed for sure they’d at least go get someone like Mason or Ellis, a $3m guy that’s shown he can be a #1.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t be surprised, and to be honest when you said a goalie that wouldn’t come cheap I thought you meant a $5 million “starter” like Nabokov. I could see that, but I’m sure someone will toss more money at Ellis or Mason.

To be honest again, there have been so many rumors plus fan and blogger speculation that I have little certainty about what credible sources have actually said and not.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Fair enough.

Eliis/Mason at $3m is I guess relatively cheap compared to Turco/Nabakov, so yeah, my earlier statement is ill-founded.

But back to the subject at hand, if Staal does make it past July 1st, think the Caps have the money/need to go after him?

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Need, yes, money, yes, assets, no (they traded away next year’s 2nd round pick in either the Corvo or Belanger deal), and with McPhee generally cautious (especially with two giant failures in Jagr and Nylander) I’d bet against it. Plus there’s the whole reputation thing.

If the Caps are able to trade for Staal’s rights, well, Sather is quite stupid. The Caps have the parts, but the Rangers don’t need to bolster their prospect pool any and are losing a stud.

I’m sure Staal will be signed soon enough and it’ll be like this discussion never happened.

I could see that

Man it’s late here (in Europe). I meant signing a somewhat cheap semi-starter like Ellis. I’m not sure if that came through or not. Sorry.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions

$4 mil per for Dubi was too much

$4 mil per for Staal is good deal – espically for a team with a little bit of room and hole to fill on D.

by BuckarooClub on Jun 24, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

The 2nd round pick compensation last year was ~$3m. Dubinsky signed for $1.8m. There aren’t at least 5 teams that would give up a 2nd to get Dubinsky?

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Honestly, I think Dubi was only worth about what they got. Dubi has shown the consistent progression Staal has. As you pointed out before, there hasn’t been alot of offer sheets given, and it almost seems like GM’s have an unwritten rule not to use them to penny pinch each other. However, if Staal is sitting on the sidelines looking for $4mil, and the Rangers won’t give it, I think you will see offers. Honestly, the Caps, with $16 mil in cap space, would probably love to use $4 – $5 mil on Staal and let him play with (cover for) Green. That still leaves them over $10 mil to sign the Goaltending they need and few roll players. They have a young lineup, and still enough farmhands to bring home a Calder Cup, so they could take the first half of the weak 2011 draft off.

I definatly see where you are coming from, but I feel like the Rangers cap situation, and Sather trying to fight his history of overpaying, and little coming down the pipe in 2011 could create a bit of a perfect storm, and force our hand, the same way it did in Boston last offseason.

by BuckarooClub on Jun 24, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry typo – Dubi HASN’T shown the consistent progression Staal has

by BuckarooClub on Jun 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

please stop. youre making sense and it scares me

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions

He hasn’t? He hasn’t increased his points per game each year? All while getting harder competition and harder zone starts (equally harder assignments) each of his 3 years? He hasn’t?

Even if I for some reason grant you that (which I wouldn’t), do you think Dubi is the only decent RFA that’s been sitting around with no offers since the CBA?

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not knocking Dubi – but if anything THIS SEASON was the season he stepped up – he had less goals in 2008-2009 then he did in 2007-2008. When Sather kept Dubi out of the Heatley trade, the Senators complained that the Rangers wouldn’t include “a guy with 13 goals”. I think there is alot of potential for Dubinsky, and I’m one of his biggest fans, but he wasn’t worth the $4mil he was asking.

Staal is not a player who will be judged by his stat line. As a defensemen, he’s big, he doesn’t take stupid penalties, and stays in position. He’s also still young and getting better every year.That’s not easy to find in this league. I think there could be some real interest in him.

by BuckarooClub on Jun 24, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Dubi out of the Heatley trade, the Senators complained that the Rangers wouldn’t include "a guy with 13 goals".

Presumably because they knew he’s a lot better than “a guy with 13 goals.” He’s an advanced stat machine, his boxscore numbers aren’t everything, any more than Staals. Having 1 less goal is not a sign of regression either, again..harder assignments, more total points. And he doesn’t get the benefit of extensive PP time to make those numbers better.

but he wasn’t worth the $4mil he was asking.

My long term memory is terrible for someone my age, but I don’t remember seeing anything that said he was asking for $4m.

Staal is not a player who will be judged by his stat line. As a defensemen, he’s big, he doesn’t take stupid penalties, and stays in position

There are stats for everything, including these things, at least indirectly. Staal is easily a top 10 defensive defenseman, you won’t have me argue that.

I’m arguing that he’s going to get an offer sheet in a league that didn’t give a single one out last year, and again, only 5 in the last 4 years. History says it’s a longshot.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Marc Staal might be the most underrated defenseman in the league. He looks okay, but then you look at his QualComp and QualTeam and you wonder how he does alright in his basic stats facing people like that.

by red army line on Jun 24, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I've debated this in the past

In my opinion he’s as good as anyone in the league defensively.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s a horse alright. But because he’s only a 20-25 point guy still, Rangers can still retain him cheaply. Unless teams actually realize the only differenece between him and Volchenkov are the wacky phrases like “crease-clearer.”

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Here’s a link on Dubi – he was asking for $16 mil over 4 years

My inclusion of the 13 goals quote wasn’t meant as a knock against Dubi. I think everyone saw the potential in him, but if you pay him $4 while that potential is developing, how much do you have to pay him when he peaks???

Staal is already a top 4 D man, and while $4 mil isn’t a steal for him, it certainly isn’t too much to pay for the right piece.

by BuckarooClub on Jun 24, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Alrighty…like I said, don’t remember that, but it’s completely ridiculous. Thanks for that.

Staal’s a top 2

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

No offer sheets because last year he wasn’t worth the picks. I have a feeling he’ll have a breakout year this coming season, and will command about 3 mill on the market.

by Hoggo on Jun 24, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

At 1.8, that’s only a 2nd. Even last year, Dubinsky was worth a 2nd. He wasn’t worth the 1/3 package, but that was a given.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for the compensation numbers. Do you think last offseason anyone would want to give up a 2nd rd pick for him? Either way, I predict more good things for him this year.

by Hoggo on Jun 24, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

definitely, but rangers woulda matched any offer.
they were only holding firm cause he had no leverage

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Wolski just got 2/7.6 from PHX.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions

TSNBobMcKenzie Wojtek Wolski has agreed to terms on a 2 year deal with PHX for $7.6M.

by Michael Gleich on Jun 24, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Good deal for them, he’s a solid building block.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 24, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

3.8 is a good deal for both of them too. what does this mean for lombardi? pheonix does exactly have piles of cash lieing around

by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Nooo!

by PowerForward on Jun 24, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

wow, i think he was out of our range anyway then, woulda costed first and a third

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Wojtek Wolski was an underrated player til this past season, and he has one of the coolest names in the league.

by Kritikal on Jun 24, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

He may be overrated now—he’s one of those enigma players, like Zherdev, Semin, Kovalev, Malkin, Afinigenov, but a lower tier guy. Terrific skill, but inconsistent.

by red army line on Jun 25, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions

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