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2010 NHL Entry Draft: Day Two Open Thread, Dylan McIlrath Interview


Good Morning Everyone. Day 2 of the Draft is upon us, and rumor is the Rangers are looking goaltender in the second round. We'll see soon, Rangers select 40th.Use this as your open thread.

Glad to see some people rallying the Mcilrath pick, it will be ok.

Meanwhile, here is the video from Mcilrath's press conference. It's mostly Jess from Prospect Park, Greg from Puck Daddy, and yours truly. He seems like another intelligent, well spoken kid, like Chris Kreider and Ethan Werek from last year.


Also, his message to the New York Ranger fans....."You won't be disappointed"

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Wow, guess I drank a lot more last night than I thought

..for a brief moment, could swear I just read “…the Rangers are looking goaltender in the second round.”

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

They do need someone to start grooming for the future. Hank won’t be around forever, especially the way they are overusing him.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Not in the 2nd. They already have CJ who is certainly at NHL backup level, and is still young.
Hank’s got a solid 6-7 years left at minimum. No goalies needed right now.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually quite a few of the people in the know seem to think they do need a goaltender, because what’s in the system is weak, and after the second round the quality of goaltenders drops off dramatically.

Just telling you what I am hearing

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I certainly take your word for it. Let me say I vehemently disagree with it though.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah we had CJ

take Kabanov at 40. We got the mean defenseman that we needed now take the offense

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Hank won't be around forever...

And I don’t mean to “shoot the messenger,” but we have CJ, and they just drafted Scott Stajcer last year. Plus they got Lundqvist in what, the 7th round?? I don’t know, if Galiev, Weal, Rensfeldt or some other promising offensive player is there at 40, seems odd that they would go for a goalie so soon. Maybe they love Calvin Pickard, what the hell do I know…

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t I just get ripped the other day for saying the same thing?

He’ll be around as long as the Rangers are willing to pay him. Which should be for the next 10 years at least. And given where he was drafted, where Halak, Hasek, and others were drafted, pick a goalie with future low picks and one of them will pan out.

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by red army line on Jun 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we get some freaking offense now?

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

First I was PISSED,

but after some thought and reading up on the kid I really knew nothing about I am more excited. He’s seems pretty level headed and prepared to do what it takes to get to the next level. I would much rather have a big, physical, shut down d-man then someone like Mike Green (we all saw how that panned out in their playoff run). If Clark drafted this kid than there must be something he knows or sees that other people don’t. He’s a scout for a reason! I am certain that the Rangers made a good decision and there is plenty of offense to be had in the second and third rounds.

by suddendeath on Jun 26, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Good afternoon everyone. Great Video Jim!

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Galiev still out there, Tyler Pitlick might be someone they are interested in

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Jared Tinordi is effing huge, I stood next to him last night, holy crap is that a big kid

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

there goes Pitlick

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Kabanov

Kabanov Kabanov Kabanov Kabanov

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scream it from the rooftops Joe

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i take it there’s no TV coverage of this – where can i watch?

by j-red on Jun 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

NHL Network has it I think

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes the TSN feed is on NHL Network

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florida takes McFarland……

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Kabanov is still on the board

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

word is he goes this round

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus takes Dalton Smith

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

We need the offense

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicago takes Ludwig Rensfeldt

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Florida with their 63rd pick of the draft Alexander Petrovic

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

lmao

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw that – pretty sweet

by j-red on Jun 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, McIlrath kicked his arse

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canes take Justin Faulk

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Devils take Jon Merrill

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't take Kabanov Minn

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

just in case

NHL.com is streaming draft live

by suddendeath on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you

lol

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minnesota takes Brett Bullmer

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

 Kabanov is there

by mike1967 on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Rangers on the clock

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Here We Go

----Warner----
-------13-------

by Scent of a Woman on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

TAKE KABANOV

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

There are 3 Ranger fans here, LOL and I can hear every one of them

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

shock factor here we go

by suddendeath on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

KABANOV

KABANOV KABOANOV

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Rangers select Christian Thomas

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great move!!

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by Danz10 on Jun 26, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

66 in 64 games isn’t too shabby. Now trade someone to get back up for Kabanov.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

we go huge on D , and midget on forwards – MZA now this

by j-red on Jun 26, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas went the other way in Tavares OHL trade

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually not bad numbers

41 goals in 65 games isn’t bad. I still wanted Krill though

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas is getting his jersey, jesus is he short

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone saying that Thomas is a great pick

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

not a bad one

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I worry about us becoming the Canadiens with this trend. Maybe we can get Gomez back

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they will trade to get Kabanov

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha you’re obsessed!!

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should be…Kabanov’s a top 10 forward in terms of skill, it’s the maturity issue. Having Kabanov and McWrath would mean they got who they needed, just not quite in the order one would expect.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i want kabanov too, if he lasts to our third round pick i will be FURIOUS at boyle trade. boyle has no upside kabanov has star potential

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade coming up

Chicago trades their pick to Toronto for draft pick

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does Burke always do weird crap

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

sauer and potter for another 2nd pick?

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Sangs..or Gilroy…or Kloucek…or….

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

will cost more i think unless we are also giving draft pick….riley nash, former first rounder that has progressed well but hasnt signed yet, traded for 46th overall pick. draft picks very valuable

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew that was going to come up! The first guy wasn’t exactly small though

by NYR in Chi-town on Jun 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who would give a pick that high for Gilroy? Bob Gainey isn’t a GM now.

by NYR in Chi-town on Jun 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LA must really want someone.

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

well Christian Thomas is just about the most boring kid on the planet, LOL

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

he just didn’t have much to say, interview over in three minutes, nothing to say about himself, it was all about his dad. and I goofed, I could have swore Steve played for the Rangers, I was fucking sure of it, so I asked him about it, and looked like a jackass in front of everyone.

Oh well, life goes on.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Jim. Must’ve been awkward.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah crap I saw your text late, I sent you the answer but I guess I took too long. Sorry about that.

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i want freakin kabanov and galiev. GET TALENT CMON SATHER!

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

man, the guy Edm just draft broke his collarbone twice this past year. Ouch.

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Jim,

do u see sather doing anything at all?

by Zach S. on Jun 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

what are the chances sather makes a trade for another pick because we dont have another one for a while

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Petr Straka, any relation to Martin?

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone should be happy with Christian

41 goals as a 17-year-old in the OHL is not to be taken lightly. He’s small to be sure, but he’s a pure goal-scorer and smallish forwards have already proven they can be very effective in the post-lockout NHL. I’m really happy with this pick and our draft so far, we filled two real needs in our organization. I understand the calls for Krill but this kid is a much surer thing than Kabanov right now.

(with that said, if we go back and trade for a pick to get Kabanov, I wouldn’t complain.)

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

The dickbrains on the NHL channel should shut the hell up while the teams are actually drafting.

by mike1967 on Jun 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, Chicago wins the cup and then have all these picks in the first 2 rounds.

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Cause they traded everyone away to get under the cap lol

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i just noticed that too lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was him with the kid in the Rangers jersey just behind him. It’s annoying.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that certainly didn’t help lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ranger table looks really bored.

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

God…Tallon’s getting even more picks.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

good

he was the architect of that team.

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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They better reward him

Cuz he’s not getting anything for the next 6 years with Florida. Even though Bowman is doing pretty well now, Tallon deserves most of the credit

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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 26, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You Brian Boyle

for taking away krill and our 3rd round pick

by Zach S. on Jun 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

National Team Development Program is really churning them out.

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

well...

here we go to waiting til the fourth lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s still hope we trade back in to this round.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Round 2 took 45 minutes. They better pick up the pace

by mike1967 on Jun 26, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

what are the chances the Rangers pass on KK if he’s still hanging around at #100?

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

given that he's who The Banter seems to want there

if he’s available at #100, I’d say there’s a 100% chance they pass on him

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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

bueke is goneeeee

by nutz_35 on Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

z

fuck the islanders

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the Islanders are getting good.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

wow,
rangers shouldnt have let that happen

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe he wont wanna play for the fishsticks…

by nutz_35 on Jun 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

it's okay

a kid with attitude problems who walked out on his QJMHL team, playing on fucking long island in that toilet bowl? I bet he bolts for the KHL before he hits the 20 games played mark in the NHL

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently they’re not scared of attitude problems, because god knows they’ve got such a first-class organization and haven’t had any problems with flaky superstars before….cough cough yashin cough cough

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know anything about Maxim Kitsyn?

supposed to be pretty highly regarded… or are we just going to completely shun all Russians??

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

idk man, hopefully this is a fluke year for clark, because so far im pretty dissapointed

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

at 70 no less. Stupid Boyle

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

weal will be a bust anyway

he will never even come close to 100 points in the WHL again. mark my words.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still would’ve preferred to find that out with our system at our pick

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

is max gardiner still available?

we’ve had good luck with high school picks in the recent past, he’s a big kid listed at 6’3 and he’s a center. So he fills the organizational needs of size up front and center. but he might be gone already

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Still there.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it really on yet?

or is it another twenty-minute long pre-game show not listed as a pre-game?

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

figured

I can probably switch over after the Rangers’ 4th round pick and not miss a thing

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I miss

Besides the Islander sucking balls?

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

spezza is lol

but Versteeg I can believe, his cap number is decent and the Hawks are apparently still open to unloading him.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the number of d-men we have now, that doesn’t surprise me. Versteeg makes more sense since the price shouldn’t be that high, but not sure what he’s giving for Spezza.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re in the “who the hell really knows” part of the draft anyway

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

they still have another pick....

….before our fourth rounder, unless they traded it.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do, but FLA also has 92, 93 and 99, they’re more likely at this stage.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

not gailev?

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...

….I figured gardiner probably wouldn’t make it to our 4th round pick, I was mostly just curious to see if he was still on the board.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anything important?

by earthworm on Jun 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

picks. one this year, one next, I believe.

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my god

OT a little bit: according to Pierre LeBrun, Sharks just resigned Niclas Wallin for 1 year at 2.5 million. The fuck is Doug Wilson smoking? That’s like a mini-Redden contract….he’s worth 800,000k, max.

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He’s coming off a deal worth 1.7m. While I suppose that might be his value, he wasn’t going to re-sign for that, most likely.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he also...

….played like crap for the Sharks in the playoffs, especially when they got swept by the Hawks. Not sure i would have even resigned him for 1.7, let alone 2.5

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample size is hardly justification one way or another. If all they cared about was playoff performance, the whole damn team would’ve been gutted by now.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

they just have this weird penchant for trading for veteran defensemen, plugging them into the 5/6 hole, and then paying them way too much money for third pairing. see also: huskins, kent

no idea how they expect to afford a goalie now.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gives them 6 d-men, 8 forwards, and Greiss, and about 9.5m to play with. If they let Setoguchi go, and just fill with 3/4 liners @ 1m, they’d have about 4-5m to play with.

Ellis, Mason will be cheaper than that.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

To make it clear, I"m not saying I’d pay him 2.5m, just that SJ probably has a justification to internally.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ellis yeah, Mason I heard was looking for around 4 mil. Whether or not he’ll get it is up for debate I guess.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would they let setoguchi go?

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, there goes galiev

leave it to the Caps to pick him up

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Guys, don’t get ahead of yourselves. Just because they look good doesn’t mean they’ll be good. Let the Rangers pick. They can’t get everyone.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t want everyone, just a few each round lol

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the players we have, and in our system. Let these guys play, no picks isn’t a huge problem.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

For?

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

who’s reporting?

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did you hear this?

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Staal?

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by Scent of a Woman on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't say for who

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Rangers have traded D Bobby Sanguinetti to Hurricanes, Post has learned. Picks coming back. Kid had fallen on depth chart

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They better be next year picks…Sangs is worth more than a 4th

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus christ

if all we get for him are PICKS….oh man. terrible.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, get to the pick before the WC starts. Let’s go!

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

wish we could have seen what he could do in Ranger blue…oh well i guess

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Since we're so deep on D-men

I guess the rest of our picks can go to Forwards

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

rutherford on tv

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

If this is accurate, Sangs was a kid who was never going to get a shot in our system. No biggie

by earthworm on Jun 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

he just discussed a trade

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Hurry up Isles!!!

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Rangers got a third round pick in 2011

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Not great.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Traded our 21st pick in 2006 for a 3rd five years later…good stuff

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the trade was announced in the background of conversation. Until we hear it confirmed, take it lightly.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I heard it correctly

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that means Boyle and Sangs had same value at times of trade……surprising….rangers overpayed big time for boyle

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

both 1st round draft picks – Sangs 21, Boyle 26

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and same value as dan hamhuis fucking negotiating rights after everybody knows he wants to test FA market

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut up Tyler, so i can hear the pick

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

andrew gross says its for 2 picks…

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Andrew Yogan

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Not great, at least he’s a big kid. Probably good value for a 4th.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ghana scored too

by NTB on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

so is it safe to say Teemu Pulkkinen is just a piece of shit ?

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Leave it to the Rangers to draft a player from Boca Raton FL

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

born in florida, true

but he’s played four years in the OHL already. the Florida thing shouldn’t worry anyone too much

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Andrew Yogan, from thescoutingreport.com
Like Martindale, Yogan is another player with first round skills that will likely slip a bit in the draft. He’s a great skater for his size and has good offensive tools, although his finish is questionable. The main factor that will dog his draft stock is his lack of hockey sense and inability to effectively use his teammates.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

max kitsyn is still available guys

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the pick

For a 4th rounder especially, very nice pick. We filled those same two organizational needs I was talking about when discussing the kid from Minnesota: size up front and center. He’ll have plenty of time to develop better hockey sense, but you can’t teach size.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i recall that being said about jessiman….

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but thankfuly he wasnt our first rounder lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

it’s okay to draft for size in the fourth round, IMO, moreso than a first round pick. Plus unlike Jessiman, this kid’s got four years of OHL experience already. Jessiman was a completely untested American HS kid

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From Hockey's Future:
Yogan has a big frame and skates well, but lacks the skill to be a top-six forward at the NHL level. A better passer than a shooter, but he chooses to shoot a lot. Work ethic is an issue, as is hockey sense.

In 63 games for the Erie Otters, Yogan scored 25 goals and added 30 assists for 55 points while picking up 97 penalty minutes. Yogan played for Team Cherry at the 2010 CHL Top Prospects Game, where he made it onto the score sheet from a fight with Team Orr’s Matt MacKenzie.

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 26, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

meanwhile, america is playing pretty damn bad in the world cup so far.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

they do it every year with the Europeans

by AZRangerFan on Jun 26, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Him being born in Florida made for funny questions, of course I had to ask, LOL

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

like whether or not he can actualy play hockey?

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any finalization on the sangunetti trade?

by earthworm on Jun 26, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Carolina GM Jim Rutherford says he likes the upside in Sanguinetti…will have a shot to make club….

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did NYR get in return?

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did the rangers get in return a 4th in 2011?

by earthworm on Jun 26, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I just think I heard a third in 2011. So take it lightly until confirmation.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i could live with that…

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s much better value than just a 3 next year

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if true, not a disaster

2nd round picks are at a premium and who knows if the Canes will be a playoff team next year. Not a bad return for a kid who was never gonna get a chance here by all accounts.

also it’s a much better return than LA got from us for Boyle

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

unlike Boyle, sangs has nhl upside lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just need to swap Boyle and Gilroy positionally.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea but i think we somehow all knew that the second MDZ got drafted, sanguinetti was on the way back burner.

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure it means much, but Clark didn’t draft Sangs.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, but clark drafted MDZ and he saw that the position needed improvement and MDZ was that improvement

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that and also....

…if you’ll recall, MDZ was ranked higher than he ended up going. I think they took him also because he kind of fell in their laps

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

also agreed, but if you look it up, sang’s ohl stats blow mdz’s out of the water, look where it got him

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's always gonna be busts

for where he was taken in ‘05, Sangs was not a bad pick. Too bad it didn’t work out, nice we recouped some value for him and we’re still very strong at defense.

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I have audio of Gordie Clark and Andrew Yogan, we will play them both on the Draft Wrap Up Edition of Blueshirt Banter Radio tonight at 8 PM

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

any confirmation of what we got back for Sangs and Boyle?

by mike1967 on Jun 26, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I was just told its a 6th this year, and 2nd next year

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait Boyle wasn’t part of that trade, was he?

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I know of

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just making sure.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

kinda wish he was tho

by nutz_35 on Jun 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

6th and next year’s 2nd is terrible value for Sangs AND Boyle. It’s fine for just Sangs.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the upside

at least we’re not the Devils. 3 picks so far, highest at 38th, thanks mostly to the Kovalchuk trade (how’d that work out?), and they traded away another pick next year for Arnott already. They’re gonna be in deep, deep trouble later in the decade.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

they find gems late, they will be fine, fabulously run organization.
Dolan really needs to triple whatever NJ pays Lou and bring him to MSG

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did just get Merrill, who could be a player.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

good luck with that

for all their “gems”, they haven’t gotten out of the first round in three years. Even we’ve done that. I said it when they lost to the Flyers and I’ll say it again: I’d rather be a fan of a team like the Rangers than the post-lockout Devils, who tease you with these awesome regular seasons then flame out in the first round year after year.

post-lockout, they have not been that great of an organization. People give them too much credit. Parise was a great pick, but they seem more interested in constantly bringing in retreads like Arnott then keeping their own young players. And the Kovalchuk move was a huge blunder.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rangers picking now

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason Wilson from Owen Sound

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

and I don’t believe he is here

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

we seem to be drafting for size

6’2 winger from OHL, seems to have limited scoring potential. Lots of PIMs though

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might we actually be putting together a team that in the future can play North American style hockey? lol

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is he so old? his profile says hes 20 already….
i thought all these guys were 17 or 18….

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're still draft-eligable till 21 I believe

no one took him until this year. Probably his OHL scoring numbers going up a bit this season, along with the PIMs staying constant, convinced the Rangers to give it a shot with a 5th round pick

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clark influence, but also NHL in general

there’s less and less Europeans being taken lately, I think they had a record-low in the first round this year. But Clark definitely seems to prefer North Americans, it’s probably a good route to try and take considering the Euro route sure wasn’t working out for us.

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excuse me for my bad report on the Sangs return. Too quick on it, and honestly, wanted to be first to report. Must’ve heard another transaction take place.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

is it just me or are they completely avoiding skilled players in this years draft?

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas has some skill. 4th round on is boom or bust anyway, at least they’re taking some forwards with size, if they’re good, they’ll be that much better.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesnt get rid of my dissapointment over the entire thing

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blame the unnecessary playoff push, where not only did they not get down to 6 or 7, but also didn’t trade guys that could’ve fetched us a few 2nd round picks.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kabanov still there?

by mike1967 on Jun 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

no and youre gonna love who took him

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh, no. Isles @ 65

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh Jesus. There are reading this board.

by mike1967 on Jun 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

i said that already lol

by b4mv01 on Jun 26, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Wilson so old?
Hes 20 according to his profile.
Arent most draft picks 17 or 18…….

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone know?
Jim? Joe?

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got an answer above.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 26, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

thomas is speaking to nhl.com right now and this kid is straight up dry toast.

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

he looked so scared…i think its cuz he was talking to a hot girl…haha

by nutz_35 on Jun 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s Washington’s second-rounder, apparently, not Carolina’s. So yeah, that will be a late pick. oh well

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

59th or 60th overall.
I think its what Carolina got for Joe Corvo

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is no set number on the pick is there? I mean, Wsh’s pick can definitely change.

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by rmc235 on Jun 26, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he’s just guessing saying it’ll be 59th or 60th, that’s assuming they make it to the Cup Finals next year. obviously it could be the 31st pick for all anyone knows right now, just not bloody likely

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sather on Wisconsin D Ryan McDonagh: With Sangs gone, “seems like it would be a wise move to come out now.”

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Sather on Stall

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by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Orr is a pretty hard agent to deal with, and you have to get value out of your RFAs before they hit UFA status. I can’t blame him, we need to save cap space

by John Carroll on Jun 26, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have got to be expletive deleted kidding me.

by dbmaven on Jun 26, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sather on Sanguinetti: “He’s a good kid, but I don’t think he’s going to fit the bill right now w/what we have in lineup & guys we drafted”

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Sather

On Sanguinetti trade to Canes: "He’s been around and was going to get discouraged sooner or later.

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

look, bobby did it to himself, he could’ve done well for himself last year but he came to camp completely out of shape, couldn’t finish torts’ training regimen (he actualy collapsed midway through, remember) and he didn’t grow defensively. it’s sad that the former 1st rounder goes down like this for us, but he bummed himself down the drain.

by KBrian on Jun 26, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the 7th round with their final pick the NYR select RW Randy McKanught from Saskatoon

by Poe678 on Jun 26, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta love when the first thing that comes up when googling his name is hockeyfights.com

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