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Previewing the Draft: Tyler Seguin

TORONTO,CANADA - MAY 28:  Tyler Seguin of the Plymouth Whalers works out on the first day of the 2010 NHL Combine event at the Weston Bristol Place on May 28, 2010 in Toronto, Canada. (Photo by Claus Andersen/NHLI via Getty Images)

Name: Tyler Seguin

Position: Center

Height: 6-1

Weight: 186 lbs

Age: 18

Home Country: Canada

Playing In: Ontario Hockey League (Juniors)

Join me after the jump for scouting reports......

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Scouting Reports

Rangers Tribune: Taylor - Tyler, Tyler - Taylor. From now until the NHL Entry Draft in June, you will see these two youngsters continually compared, as you may have noticed already. Tyler Seguin is not the same type of player that Hall is, therefore they will contrast more than they compare. Seguin is more of your rounded forward, like Matt Duchene, who went third overall in the 2009 Draft to the Colorado Avalanche. He has great defensive awareness, but at the same token, can also find the back of the net. Usually, those are the type of players you like up the middle on your first or second offensive line.

He certainly is not going to be as creative as Hall and probably will not rack up the points like him either, but I could see Seguin becoming a solid 30-goal scorer nonetheless. He can be used on the penalty kill and on the powerplay, which will be beneficial to the club that selects him.

Hockey's Future: In 63 games for the Whalers, Seguin scored 48 goals and chipped in 58 assists for 106 points, tying him for the first overall in OHL scoring with Taylor Hall. In 9 playoff games, Seguin scored 5 goals and added 5 assists for 10 points. Seguin won the Red Tilson Trophy as the OHL's Most Outstanding Player. He played for Team Orr at the 2010 CHL Top Prospects Game, and also played in the Canada-Russia Challenge and the OHL All-Star Game. Read More...

My NHL Draft: Tyler Seguin has come on strong and shot up the draft rankings since joining the Plymouth Whalers for the 2008-2009 season. He has become Taylor Hall’s toughest competition for the #1 spot overal.

Seguin, a pure center, excels in all three zones, and has shown dominance in all areas through his career in the OHL. His high-end playmaking ability and vision compliment his natural abilities as a center, but he has demonstrated, especially this season, a keen ability to put the puck in the net. Seguin has not played on as strong a team as many of the other projected top picks, so, his ability to make others around him better has been even more evident. For example, it is commonplace in Plymouth to see Seguin make the perfect pass to a teammate waiting on the doorstep of the goal. To put it lightly Seguin is as smart as they come in this year’s draft. Read More...

The Hockey News: It was Seguin's 48 goals compared to Hall's 40 that game the Whaler the OHL scoring title, though Seguin is seen as the more rounded, but far less dynamic player. "If you're looking for a complete player whose game you'll be able to count on right at both ends of the rink, he's your guy," one scout said. "He might not be as dynamic as the other guy [Hall], but he might be a more thorough pro.

One knock against Seguin was in head-to-head competition against Hall, scouts thought Hall turned his game up a notch while Seguin faltered. But that has something to do with the fact  that, for the most part, Hall was surrounded by better players. (Read more in THN Draft Preview 2010 edition)

Projected to be Drafted: 1st or 2nd overall

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On the basis of that picture alone, I say he’ll be better that Hall.

by XLII on Jun 4, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL He is built. He tore up every exercise he had to do at the combine.

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 4, 2010 9:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

FYI

TSN has a small (and i do mean small) article about how the Bruins are getting offers for their 1st pick. More like kicking the tires kinda offers.

I wonder what it would take to get their #1? The Bruins need offense. Something the Rangers don’t have to offer.

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 4, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve seen rumors of them trying to trade up to get Hall. I’ve seen rumors that they’re willing to trade their #15 + 2nd/3rd rounders to get up into the top 10 a second time. I haven’t seen them booting their Hall/Seguin prospects.

Though I have read they’re not sure what to do about Seguin, because they feel they’re logjammed at C, so I suppose if they can’t get down to take Hall, I could see them moving back a couple slots.

Rangers have offense to offer, but not “excess” offense. I believe if you give up Callahan/Dubinsky+Del Zotto/Anisimov+propsect + #10, you could get down to get Seguin. I’m not sure that’s in this team’s best interest though.

If they’re going to trade with Boston, I’d rather they be the team that trades down to 15 and picks up some extra picks in the process, but that’s assuming the key guys (Forbort, Johansen, Nino) are all gone already.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 4, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hadn’t heard that about Boston backing off Seguin because of positional need. If I were them I would stay right where they are and make room for Segiun, assuming Hall goes first overall. I think he’s the only other sure thing in this crap-shoot, and with him in the system they could move one of their 30-something centers for even more high draft picks. I’d be salivating at those prospects, but that’s just me.

by XLII on Jun 4, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree 100%

I actually prefer Seguin to Hall, similar to Crosby/Ovechkin. I think Hall may be the more flashy guy, but Seguin, as Nick highlights, will be the 3-zone forward that carries a team, like Crosby, or Zetterberg, etc…

I can see moving down for defense if you’re Boston, as Savard-Bergeron-Krejci is a pretty good trio, but you’d have to be completely sold on Fowler or Gudbranson to do so.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 4, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Savard is signed long-term, but Bergeron is UFA after next season. His cost, plus his concussion history make me think the Bs are unlikely to retain him with the less expensive RFA in place. I don’t think that the Bs are terribly jammed at C moving forward, especially if Krejci is capable of putting up Selke-type defensive numbers.

Reading your posts, I assume you’re familiar with WOWY or just Corsi in general – both Ovechkin and Crosby are huge individual Corsi drivers for their teams. They’re both highly effective players, they just get it done in different ways.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 5, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was just regurgitating what I read, I agree that I don’t believe they’re terribly logjammed, I’ve just read that those 3 players might be the driving force for the B’s trying to guarantee they get Hall by trading up.

And yes, I’ve seen the WOWY/Corsi stuff for Ovi/Crosby. They obviously paint the correct picture of how they lead their teams, but there’s still something to be said for having Crosby who contributes on all 3 units.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 5, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

By all three units, you mean PP/ES/PK?

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 5, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 5, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

SH BtN stats for the Pens

Crosby plays less than a minute per night on the PK, I’ll bet largely on faceoffs because Staal just played a shift or because Staal is bad at faceoffs. It’s not totally insignificant, but it’s not a huge contribution, either.

I’d also like to note that Crosby’s on-ice SV% is .917 on the PK, which is totally unsustainable.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 6, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Ovechkin’s is 0.06 TOI.

I’m not comparing Crosby’s contributions to the rest of his team, I’m comparing it to Ovechkin’s, which is a virtual zero.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 7, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I said nothing about how good Crosby was at the PK. I just said he plays. I in fact didn’t even look because it was irrelevant to my argument.

I appreciate you pointing it out though, I did think he played closer to 1.25-1.5 per 60.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

but there’s still something to be said for having Crosby who contributes on all 3 units.
By all three units, you mean PP/ES/PK?
Yup.
Crosby plays less than a minute per night on the PK, I’ll bet largely on faceoffs because Staal just played a shift or because Staal is bad at faceoffs. It’s not totally insignificant, but it’s not a huge contribution, either.
And Ovechkin’s is 0.06 TOI.

I’m not comparing Crosby’s contributions to the rest of his team, I’m comparing it to Ovechkin’s, which is a virtual zero.

It wasn’t a two-part comparison, it was a three part comparison between Crosby, Ovechkin, and Zetterberg.

Crosby is a great driver of puck possession and offense, which means that the Pens are less likely to get scored on when he’s on the ice. Same is true for Ovechkin – he’s got the puck in the offensive zone, your goalie is bored.

What neither of them does especially well is play defense, other than getting the puck back. They’re closer to each other in that than they are to Henrik Zetterberg, who plays really tough minutes and is less offensively dynamic, but better as a shutdown defender.

So the upshoot is this – Seguin is closer to Zetterberg than he is to either Crosby or Ovechkin.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

I casually threw Zetterberg in there, that was a bit irresponsible. I was focused on Crosby/Ovi.

Yes, Z’s a different brand of forward

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by George E. Ays on Jun 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

How bout Cally, Gilroy and our #10 pick for the Bruins #1 pick. Think that would be enough for the Bruins? I don’t want to give up MDZ or Dubi.

What about Edmonton? Think they’d deal their #1?

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by 76 Blueshirt on Jun 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I don’t think Cally/Gilroy/#10 is enough.

Edmonton will deal if they get enough back, they have a glut of forwards right now. You’ll also have to take Moreau and/or Nilsson off their hands, and definitely kick in some defense, and I don’t think Girardi or Gilroy are sufficient.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 4, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i seriously doubt us making a move, i think sather learned his lesson somewhat, we have an OK core… and i think judging by what he did at the deadline, hes gonna ride the wave

by Dougee on Jun 4, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it wasn’t a “deadline” deal, but the Joker deal was not a ride the wave deal. And there are several sources out there that are confident Glen was trying to do something we’d all hate, he just didn’t get them done.

Never assume Sather will stand pat.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 4, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends…you going to drug either the Bruins or Oilers before offering this deal.

by NTB on Jun 5, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

id sign up for that in a heartbeat lol

by Conway on Jun 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Duchene went 3rd overall, Hedman was the 2nd)

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 5, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

nice catch

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by Nick Montemagno on Jun 5, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol I was thinking, “no way I could of sworn Hedman was the 2nd overall and Duchene went after” I though I went crazy

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 5, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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