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RIP Bob Probert

The legendary fighter Bob Probert has passed away after a boating accident.Here is the original article stating the accident, am awaiting the article stating his untimely passing.

 

WINDSOR, Ont. -- Former NHL forward Bob Probert has been rushed to hospital after collapsing in a boat on Lake St. Clair Monday afternoon, AM800 CKLW is reporting.

Emergency crews performed CPR on the former Red Wings player on shore and transported the 45-year-old to Windsor Regional Hospital.

An OPP spokeswoman would not confirm the boating victim as Probert.


Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/Probert+collapses+boat+Report/3238135/story.html#ixzz0sqO9xqE8
Here are some of Bobs best fights...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSuRKuu_n7A

(You may want to mute the video, the background song does not do him much justice)

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Wow, that sucks

RIP indeed.

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by George E. Ays on Jul 5, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the fiercest fighters...

May he rest in peace.

I Am HockeyMan!!

"When I tap my stick like this (thump, thump, thump), put the puck on the tape, and I'll take care of things." Jaromir Jagr, for Bud Light.

by Danz10 on Jul 5, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

while of course the Probert-Domi fights were THE biggest thing during the time they happened, and were classic moments in Rangers lore, a moment i’ll always remember was when the Rangers traded for Joey Kocur and the day came when Probert and Kocur had their first fight against each other in a real game. These two longtime teammates and friends had that mutual respect moment, then they did what they had to do.
I have a special appreciation for the enforcers and their roles on their teams, they USED to be so very important to their teams’ success and the morale of their teams as well. Probert was one of the very best, and he could actually play hockey too. These days, enforcers are not given the chance to play, they are only given a few shifts a game and their presence is no longer considered important by the people who coach in the NHL, so no enforcer will ever get the chance to reach the offensive numbers that Probert reached. In my view this is in part due to the fantasy-owner mentality that the post-lockout NHL has taken on.
Sad to hear of his passing …. the memories of him will carry on.

"Jim, that Durbano's been kicked out of every league he's ever been in" -- Bill "The Big Whistle" Chadwick (Rest In Peace) From the good ol' days of the NHL

by bigaudio on Jul 5, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Probert was an enforcer when an enforcer meant something. Before the days of the instigator penalty and the crackdown by the NHL on fighting and bench-clearing situations, the enforcer was your team’s “insurance policy.” If somebody on the other team went after your top players, your team’s ‘enforcer’ would retaliate in kind.

A number of different things have lead to the decline of the ‘enforcer’. As mentioned, the instigator penalty and other actions by the NHL have tried to curtail on-ice retaliation in favor of league-sanctioned penalties/suspensions/fines. As we all know, this has failed epically and has lead to the rise of players like Carcillo, Downie, and Cooke, to name a few. These types of players find loopholes in the rulebook to injure other players (you can also look at guys like Kaspairaitis and Marchment back in the day when they used to blow player’s knees out from their dirty hits). And in today’s NHL, a player trying to ‘enforce’, or protect their team, would get thrown out of a game, suspended, his team assessed an extra minor penalty…and the original infraction would go unpunished.

As audio said, enforcers of today don’t get a chance to play because…well…they’re not really allowed to ‘enforce’ anything. So a team goes out and finds a guy who can play 4-5 minutes, can at least skate worth a damn, and can fight. For what purpose? It’s not enforcing.

It’s entertainment. The fighters of today only serve 2 purposes-entertainment for the fans, and on a smaller level, they can help shift momentum in a game, or get a crowd into/out of a game. If Boogard and Shelley fight next year, it won’t have anything to do with ‘protecting’ or ‘enforcing’ anything on the ice. It’s not like either of them will be playing against the other team’s top players (unless of course an icing or nifty line change…but it’s rare).

The only reason Bettman and his merry men still allow fighting is so they don’t alienate the hardcore fan (or whatever term you want to use, maybe purists?). I’ll bet my bottom dollar they’d outlaw fighting first chance they could get if it didn’t hurt their bottom dollar.

But, of course, instead of allowing the teams to police themselves, they’d rather change the rulebook every few years in response to players who find loopholes to go out and intentionally hurt other players (hence the new headshot rule).

by Caerid112 on Jul 6, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And that’s also why there was such a strong negative reaction to Boogard-if this was 10, 15, 20 years ago you’d want the biggest, baddest boy on the block. Nowadays having the biggest and baddest is nothing more than the adult version of “my dad can beat up your dad”.

by Caerid112 on Jul 6, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was worth at least 2 Boogs.

by Caerid112 on Jul 5, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"Mes que un club"
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 5, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

As we all know, this has failed epically and has lead to the rise of players like Carcillo, Downie, and Cooke, to name a few.

Gotta disagree here, these types of players have always been around. Bobby Clarke, while more skilled than those named above, was very much in their mold. Since he was surrounded by goons, he was allowed to be the chippy bastard he was. Ken Linseman was another chippy dirtbag, who is more in line with the player named above. The list could go on much further.

The NHL crackdown on fighting and retaliation as the cause of players like Carcillo, Cooke, etc. is one of my greatest pet peeves about fans today. The notion that getting rid of the instigator penalty is some panacea is laughable. The penalty isn’t even called frequently, certainly not according to the rule. I mean, every time a fight breaks out after a clean hit, the player starting the fight should be given an instigator, but that rarely happens.

Or the argument, can you imagine if Matt Cooke played in the 80s, he’d be killed. Well…not really, again see Ken Linseman. Linseman was just as dirty, if not more, than the players today. The lack of an instigator rule did not deter him. Again, when you have to play a certain style to stay in the NHL, you’re going to play that style regardless of the rules in place.

by NTB on Jul 6, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

But if you choose to disregard the rules, you’re a handicap to your team. Accumulating minor penalties is not something teams want to sing players for, even if it comes with a few extra fights. Demand for enforcers will drop, so eventually, the supply of enforcers will wane. The instigator rule is effective in cutting down unnecessary fights not because it scares the fighters, but because it scares the teams into either benching or not signing the players who instigate.

"Mes que un club"
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
"Luongo: He's better than Cloutier"

by Scratch and Snif on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

This post should probably be edited to clarify that he was not killed in a “boating accident;” he collapsed shortly after experiencing chest pains and died at the hospital later. The boat really has nothing to do with anything.

by KingHenrik on Jul 6, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

i heard diffrent ?

he has a massive heart attack was the first report out of tsn canada big willie huber same thing walked his dogs came back home and boom never woke up from his nap 2 great players for there time and era. the n.h.l. wii sadly miss both of them god bless big willie huber and big bad bob probert .

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on Jul 6, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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