Ryan McDonagh Signs
by Dave Shapiro on Jul 6, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
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The Rangers have officially signed touted prospect Ryan McDonagh out of the University of Wisconsin. McDonagh, a physical defensive defenseman, was acquired as a part of the Scott Gomez trade in June, 2009. Terms of the deal have not been disclosed, but expect something along the lines of the Derek Stepan deal.
Update by Dave: The cap numbers for McDonagh are in, via CapGeek. McDonagh signed a three year, entry level contract with a base salary of $875,000. McDonagh will also receive $425,000 in performance bonuses per year and $87,500 per year in signing bonuses. This total of $512,500 in bonuses puts McDonagh's cap hit at $1.3 million per season.
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max is about that. the rest is the bonuses. mdz might get more bonuses since he got here at a younger age.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The max is $900k
MDZ was $850k + $212500 in bonuses.
MZA got $900 + $850k bonuses.
Taylor Hall, for instance, got the Tavares 900k + $2.875m
Figure McDonagh for something between MDZ and MZA…around $1.5m, give or take.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
im going to guess more like what MDZ and Geoffrion got. MDZ 1.087 Blake 1.0625
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I just naturally inflate everything b/c it’s Sather.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
true and myers as a 12 pick got 1.3, which would be more than reasonable.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless of his contract
when he plays in the AHL he will make significantly less (like probably as little as most regular folks make, yes they do make that little in the minors)
All entry level contrats are 2 way, which means they get paid a whole lot less in the minors. Yhose salary numbers are only for time spent at the NHL level
Assuming he sees Hartford. I wouldn’t call it a definite.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless they go with 7 d men
he doesn’t hsave a roster spot (not a bad idea, but is it really in a young players best interest to sit vs playing in HFD? regardless of who that player is?)
I will believe a redden elimination when I see it.
Well, technically they only have 3 defenseman right now (Rozsival, Redden and Del Zotto)
Gilroy ended last year in Hartford and Staal/Girardi aren’t signed.
I hear what you’re saying on Redden, but he’s not the only one whose roster spot could be in jeopardy.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
well no, gilroy ended the year in the press box, but i could see him being the one out. sather could decide now he doesnt need girardi. not buying the assume it’s redden wave.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m failing miserably today with my facts. Eesh.
At least the point is still solid. For now.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Girardi will be back guaranteed,
even if its only a 1 year deal. Thats what you get in arbitration. He didn’t exactly have a great year either. He will still be an RFA next year if thats the case I belive
I’m with the “skeptical until I see it” crowd on Redden. Out of anyone, I think Gilroy really need to have a solid camp. Gilroy and McDonagh are are question marks. Torts knows what he is going to get from everyone else.
I can’t remember is Gilroy subject to reentry waivers this year?
by NTB on Jul 6, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yes because he played 60 games last year.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Unofficially from CapGeek
SEASON AHL SALARY NHL SALARY P. BONUSES S. BONUS CAP HIT
2010-2011 $65,000 $875,000 $425,000 $87,500 $1,300,000
same for all 3 years of the contract.
Compare to MDZ
SEASON AHL SALARY NHL SALARY P. BONUSES S. BONUS CAP HIT
2009-2010 $65,000 $875,000 $212,500 NO DATA $1,087,500
same for all 3 years of the contract
Basically identical to Myers, like leetch said.
Good deal for him and us. Be nice once we shed those stupid albatrosses to have some 2nd/3rd pair guys making normal money.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we can change it up and put another albatross on offense to pair with Drury.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
how do Taveres and Hall get performance bonuses o the $2.875M? I though the max for any one category for performance bonuses was $212,500 (and there are something like 9 categories which would be max about $1.9M)
i get the $87,500 in signing bonus since that is 10% of his salary of $875k
any ideas?
there are schedule B bonuses for awards like calder, mvp and the like.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 7, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks – so if he doesn’t win NHL awards bonuses (which are paid by the league and the club) does that count against the cap? same question for performance bonuses as well – if he doesn’t reach those, how does that work against the cap?
ie) if he scores 3 goals and has 3 assists all season (i think minimums for D-Men are like 10 goals and 25 assists) for Entry Level.
PLease oh please oh please oh please oh please
by Lunkwill Fook on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so
and I hope that’s all that happens.
Sather + Cap space/Viagra = agita for Rangers fans
KEEP LEE!!!
That would be too much to ask.
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Jul 6, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
now now
let’s at least try to be positive
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
As a long time fan, I leave optomism to fans of other teams.
Rather be a realist than constantly disappointed.
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Jul 6, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Buried deep in Dan David’s article at the Ranger’s website is a line that, to me, may be the most impressive thing of all:
“We have a great academic staff, and they have already started working on stuff to make sure that it’s all laid out and organized for me to complete my degree, no matter how long it takes.”
Along with a reminder that one of the last Ranger’s Greats that came out of Wisconsin also came out early, and finished his degree while in the NHL, then returned to get a graduate degree – Mike Richter.
Stepan and McDonagh are making me downright giddy thinking about what it will be like in a couple years (maybe even next year???) with the likes of Kreider, Grachev, Stepan, McDonagh along with the existing “young core”…..
yes, 12 months time we could have 6 youngsters from the system added in McDonagh (this year), Grachev, Stepan, Kreider, Werek.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God Sather Jedi mind tricked the Habs into giving up McDonagh
lol
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that a Star Wars reference Joe? (sorry, inside joke for the writing team)
“This is not the defenseman you are looking for”
“This is not the defenseman I am looking for”
“You will trade him for Scott Gomez”
“I will trade him for Scott Gomez”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 6, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you telling me that
my ACDC shirt isn’t cool?
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No
but my Iron Maiden shirt is awesome.
Nothing says powerplay like strobe lights and video game music.
by fromthe51hate on Jul 6, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
NICK!
You NEVER EVER LINK THAT SITE
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/blue-notes-1.811976
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by Nick Montemagno on Jul 6, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick so help me God I
will ban you!
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
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by Nick Montemagno on Jul 6, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"You will trade for Ales Kotalik"
"I will trade for Ales Kotalik"
"You will throw in Brandon Prust too"
"I will throw in Brandon Prust too"
"When the season is over, you will re-sign Olli Jokinen to make my bad signing go relatively unnoticed"
"When the season is over, the city of Calgary will mutiny"
lol
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it fair to say
I wish we could just skip ahead to the 2011-12 season?
Let’s just dispense with the fast start, the built up expectations, the mad dash to an 8th playoff seed that may or may not fall short, and let’s just skip ahead one year.
Everybody in the DeLorean, let’s see if you bastards can do 90!
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 6, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
give me a top 3 pick and hit the fast forward machine.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL, nice
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 6, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap, maybe we should start previewing the 2011 Draft?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 6, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
ryan nugent-hopkins is a good place to start. lol.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Good luck fitting that on a jersey, you can barely fit it in a tweet
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 6, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Larsson fits just fine but he is a D, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 6, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Other options include Sean Couturier, Matt Puempel, Gabriel Landeskog and Vladislav Namestnikov.
At least "Nugent-Hopkins is easy to spell.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
1 point 21 gigawatts!!!
Nothing says powerplay like strobe lights and video game music.
by fromthe51hate on Jul 6, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
that was pretty funny Jim....lol
painfully true……….but funny………..
by giantsNYrangers on Jul 6, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
Good job Sather (yes I did say that) now fix your Redden mistake and maybe someday I will stop hating you
maybe…someday…
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by fromthe51hate on Jul 6, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome McDoangh, Good-bye Redden
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by Nick Montemagno on Jul 6, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just read this
Matt Gilroy sent down to Hartford: Torts making a statement with the wrong player http://buzztap.com/-fZdwpO
also
why would they send him down now? Camp hasn’t even started
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 6, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s probably the article from this past season…
by SLR_Rangers_18 on Jul 6, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He wants to just bring McWrath in already, so he wants Gilroy to start looking at Conn. real estate.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 6, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
7 dmen
If torts carries 7 dmen this year it wouldn’t be the end of the world….his 4th line is lucky to get 7 mins a night anyway
by mickeymuffinz on Jul 6, 2010 10:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gilroy was a forward for most of his playing days
so with 7 d-men in the starting lineup, maybe they give him a shot at forward on some nights
salary cap
guys- I am all for sending Redden down to Hartford. But you guys don’t mention Rosival and Drury very much. In terms of what we get in return (goals, assists, etc) their contracts are as almost as bad as Redden’s. Can you imagine if all 3 were off the books?
Rosi could actually be traded away as he only gets paid
4 mil this year and 3 mil next. A team watching their budget could take on the salary if they don’t care about the 5 mil cap hit.
Drury is un-movable unless he retires or is injured and placed on longterm IR. He has a NMC. Can’t trade or bury him in the AHL
Rozi has a NTC
AS for Drury…2 more years…2 more years
by Blueshirt in Paris on Jul 7, 2010 9:01 AM EDT reply actions
ok my postings are going crazy…sorry
According to capgeek Rozi has the 8 teams clause…8 teams he can pick not to be traded to.
by Blueshirt in Paris on Jul 7, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Kotalik had a 3 team clause and still ended up at one of those 3. NTC’s are easy to manuever around it seems.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
True, but I think Kotalik wanted out. I get the feeling Rozi wants to stay, maybe more of a fear then a feeling.
by Blueshirt in Paris on Jul 7, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions
If they really wanted to shed Rozi, they could just play the same games with him..benching him for stretches, generally making it miserable to stay.
However, I think Torts likes him (evidenced by giving him the A temporarily), so I think they’d obey the NTC as much as possible (but still probably trade him)
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
They gave him an A? I must have blacked that out in my mind.
by Blueshirt in Paris on Jul 7, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN Rumors
I know how unreliable these are, but their rumor central insider section is reporting the Rangers are checking out Kovy…UH-OH-ish
ol reliable eklund has been reporting that we are the dark horse/ one of the main holdups for the past few days. i am still undecided on whether or not it is uh-oh for me. if sather was able to pull off a select few moves (dump redden and voros in hartford and trade brashears contract) it could be a great signing as those three moves would almost cover the cost of kovys new deal. that being said our #1 priority should be signing staal while we still have money, not pushing ourselves to the cap ceiling with UFA’s
by BronxBeliever on Jul 7, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
More reliable than that (E) person (he who shall not be named), Darren Dreger stirred up a storm by saying:
Kovalchuk should simply declare, publicly his want to play for the Rangers. I bet Slats would clear the deck and make it happen.
Now whether there’s any fire behind that smoke is a great question. But there’s sure a ton of smoke….
As I’ve said, it’s like Souray to me. Until he’s somewhere that isn’t here, I’ll believe Sather is at minimum talking about it.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
We were working this out actually
If the Rangers sign Kovalchuk to a 7.5 million dollar deal
Dropping Redden in the AHL would clear enough cap space for him to fit.
Next year the Rangers would have 3.25 million in extra space to re-up Gilroy, AA, Callahan and Dubinsky. That’s not 3.25 million for all three, that’s 3.25 on top of the salary that comes off the books once those players are free agents.
Then the year after that, the Rangers drop 12 million in salary with Rozsival and Drury.
It can work.
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention an additional 2 mil from avery coming off the books the same year as dru and rosi. the difficult part would be getting kovy, girardi, and staal signed before we are able to demote people at the end of training camp. the 10% summer cushion allows teams to go around 6 mil over the cap during the summer bringing it to around 65 mil. realistically we would need around 15 mil to get all three of those contracts down (8 kovy, 4 staal, 3 girardi). it would be possible to do this summer, but brashear’s contract would have to be traded and most likely voros as well to get it done this summer. once we can demote redden we would be in the clear
by BronxBeliever on Jul 7, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just started reading that conversation.
If you drop Redden, you have to put a D-man in his place, so if it’s McD, it’s only 5.2m in savings, not $6.5.
That leaves you with only $13m for Staal/Girardi/Kovalchuk. That’s not enough money.
Even if you drop Brashear and Voros, it only clears, what? $2.4m? (Not sure about the Brashear rules here).
So that’s $15.4…figure Staal/Girardi/Kovalchuk eats up $15m. You have $0.4m left over, with only 12 forwards and 6 d-men.
Something else has to give.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah..I went back further, we’re only giving Kovalchuk 7.5m instead of 8.5m. He likely won’t sign that, but at least that math works.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure if that link will work but i did it giving kovy 8, staal 4, girardi 3 and putting mcd and stepan on the team. we come out in the clear withough redden, brash and voros when its all said and done
by BronxBeliever on Jul 7, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no idea where it went but the point is the same. it works if we can get rid of those three dead weignt players. and i included some youth just to make everyone happy
by BronxBeliever on Jul 7, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Always forget about that cap calculator on capgeek. Yeah, my math is off.
I used Byers instead of Stepan, so that’s fine.
It works but you have 0.9m and only Prospal coming off (since I’m already not counting Voros/Brashear/Boyle)
So that’s $3m left to re-sign Dubi/Cally/AA/Gilroy (if you chose). That’s not enough to give them the raises they’ll likely get.
So it has to be done another way. I think.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
its certainly not enough to give them the raises they are going to want. but as everyone says, the youth needs to start coming up soon so we’re going to have to start moving some players, maybe a gilroy has to be moved. rosi will have some trade value next offseason as well with only 1 yr with 3 mil owed to him (despite a 5 mil cap hit)
by BronxBeliever on Jul 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yahoo Player Agent quotes.
Some good stuff:
The New York Rangers were active, but not for the bigger name players on the market.
They agreed that 4 years and $6.5 million for a player with both a history of concussions and a decline in fighting totals was a confusing move. They also felt that the Rangers, more than any other team, were a franchise without a plan during this summer’s Frenzy.
“Keep Glen Sather away from the switch,” said one agent.
@kausatoday: Washington’s Michael Nylander is on waivers today. His salary this season is $3 million, but his cap hit is $4.875 million.
Provided salary is taken off the books, any interest in a one year deal?
"Jaromir Jagr.... it's a POWER PLAY GOAL!"
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"Marian Gaborik.... it's a POWER PLAY GOAL!"
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TheFourthPeriod Didn’t expect to hear that… RT @dchesnokov Reports in Russia indicate that Nik Zherdev signed a contract with the Flyers.
Are they operating under a different cap than the rest of the NHL? WTF.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously, they were only like 500k under the cap after the shelley signing. if he was asking in the 3-4 mil range they have to move somelike gagne
by BronxBeliever on Jul 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably means the Pensacola Ice Flyers of the Southern Pro Hockey League. He would dominate!
by NTB on Jul 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
SHIT I HATE THAT. NOOOOO.
if he works out there he could be a stud and sather may look like a fool. Pronger may keep him in line. I really wanted the Rangers to get zherdev. Really badly
by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jul 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
funny those people on TSN were talking about how Locke has great potential and should be in the NHL. We learned last year he was no where close to NHL ready. who knows maybe in the next couple seasons he will be.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 7, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The big problem with adding kovy is the timing, we are not ready to compete for a stanley cup next year anyway, and we would need to add down the middle to have any sort of shot. Look at the old atlanta teams, kovy and heatley or kovy and hossa never worked, you need centers and to have your teams strength be down the middle. What i really want is to trade for Connolly. Would deal Girardi and more. Buff lost 2 of top D men so may be interested in Girardi even though they got kubina
The flaw in that argument
is that Atlanta never had a defense or a goalie worth a crap. The Rangers have a competant D and a great Goalie. (I live in ATL and have been to many many games)
defense
the rangers just need to waive redden and roszival, sign staal and girardi to long term deals, and bring the kids up and go from there. the rangers need speed to keep up in the division, the kids will help us in that area!
there arent enough kids in the minors on D who are ready to take both spots.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
numbers
We may not know what the numbers are for McDonagh but we know what they aren’t.
They are not 6 million a year for 4 more years for a waste of a player……
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