Rangers News: Rangers Re-Sign Dan Girardi (Update: Official Terms)
by Joe Fortunato on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM EDT
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One of the biggest questions surrounding the Rangers was whether or not they were going to be able to sign Dan Girardi and Marc Staal.
Well one of those questions was answered today. As per Andrew Gross the New York Rangers have agreed to terms with RFA Dan Girardi. Here is the tweet that Gross just sent out:
#NYRangers have announced the signing of RFA D Dan Girardi.
The terms have not been disclosed yet so we will get them to you when they are available. As of right now though, things seem to be moving in the right direction for the Rangers. Girardi, who filed for arbitration a few days ago, was expected to be signed before the court date, and Sather got it done.
This is good for everyone, because arbitration is basically a sure ticket to creating bad blood. Now Sather can focus on making Staal a happy man.
Thoughts guys?
Update by Joe Fortunato: According to Larry Brooks:
4 at $3.325 fair deal for both parties.Staal 6 at 4.5 or so would be same.
So I guess it's a four year deal worth 3.325 per year. Not an awful deal, but more expensive then we all expected. Those numbers are official. Girardi is in the books for 4 years at 3.325 million a year. Again, not horrible, but more expensive then I previously expected.
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"We can trade Lisin for a gun, then hold it to Drury’s head and make him waive the no-movement clause" - XLII
I think it is funny that Joe posted the picture of Girardi fighting, seeing as how……well……………..you know.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
I was thinking along the same lines as you Jim lol
by b4mv01 on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I remember that fight
He kicked Hartnells ass!
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by 76 Blueshirt on Jul 9, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at Richards standing there like “huhhh…”. Anyone remember Danny G destroying Zubrus a couple years ago? That was something.
Nothing says powerplay like strobe lights and video game music.
by fromthe51hate on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that the last home game last season.. I was at that game, it was a great game.. they gave us hope they were gonna win the last game of the season n make the playoffs.. but we all know what happened next
by BxBigDrew on Jul 9, 2010 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fighting against the Flyers no less.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Today we are going to play a little game...
It’s called: “Who is your daddy & what does he do?”
/ Sorry. The “Get to the Choppa” unleashed a slew of Govinator quotes in my brain.
Now, go sign Staal!
Pardon the terrible pun...
But I guess the contract talks have “Staaled” lol again my apologies for that
by b4mv01 on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really? Girardi gave up going to arbitration for a $400k raise?
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard 2 years 4 million dollar deal
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 9, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
wow that would be some serious lowballing by sather…. trying to sign a certain UFA with the extra cash lol
by BronxBeliever on Jul 9, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I take back my good job Sather above
now in 2 years he will hold our feet to the fire which could of been avoided by giving him a fair market contract(atleast 2.5 million) this year and hey another concept, lets sign some of these players for longer than 2 years . If staal’s contract is 2 years also i will break S**t
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Or, he signed a deal such that he can give Girardi more money when Drury/Avery/Rozsival came off the books.
There could be an understanding there, unless you were in on the negotiations and know something we don’t.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well glad its a moot point. I just don’t like it cause then don’t the rangers lose him as a RFA and 2 years from now he is a UFA. But I see what you are saying . I love how whenever I comment on something though you have these nice little smart asss remarks for me…lol
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that is fair and what he wanted so everone is happy?????????
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to the KHL with you!
The Los Angeles Kings appear to be out of the Ilya Kovalchuk sweepstakes again.
According to the Los Angeles Times, the Kings have decided to turn down the latest counter proposal from Kovalchuk’s agent Jay Grossman.
A team making a play at an RFA, and it ain't Staal...
The San Jose Sharks have signed Blackhawks restricted free agent defenceman Niklas Hjalmarsson to a free agent offer sheet, signing the defenceman to a four-year, $14 million dollar contract.
Chicago has seven days to match the offer. If the team does not match it, they will receive San Jose’s first and third round picks in the 2011 NHL entry draft.
Wow. It’s going to be tough for chicago to match 3.5/year and still fill out the roster.
by NTB on Jul 9, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
NYP_Brooksie Rangers bought 3 yrs of Girardi UFA. Looking to buy at least 2 from Staal.
Not sure what this means. 3 year deal?
by BillyDeeWilliams on Jul 9, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
It means
that after this season, Girardi would be an UFA, so by signing him to 4 years, they essentially locked up 3 of his UFA years in advance.
This also means that Staals deal would potentially be for more years, as he is younger and has less service than Girardi.
I think Staal should get Volchenkov's deal, I feel that would be fair for both sides
Since the face been revealed the game got real
no staal has 4 years left til ufa, staal would need a 6 year deal for that to be true
by Michael Gleich on Jul 9, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
I am confused, can they not sign him to more then a 4 year deal? Either way I think $.25 is good for Staal.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
they can but giving him more than 4 yrs would mean that he is giving up yrs where he would be an UFA and concievably be making more money, so players and their agents usually try and avoid that. what sather wants to do is give him a little more than he is worth now and in exchange staal would give up the first 2 of those years…. a little give and take
by BronxBeliever on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
o I got you
Yeah that makes the most sense to me I want him on as long of contract as possible.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Nevermind
NYP_Brooksie 4 at $3.325 fair deal for both parties.Staal 6 at 4.5 or so would be same.
by BillyDeeWilliams on Jul 9, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
If accurate on the Staal deal
would people still give Sather crap because these 2 were not signed on July1? I said no to worry…
Thos numbers are official
4 years 3.325 per
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If they give Staal 4.5 mil/6 or any term
they will have about 165,000 in cap space. So for any oyunger players to make the team, including McD, someone will have to go (Redden) and Sather has publically said a few young players can make it
FORWARDS
Marian Gaborik ($7.500m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Sean Avery ($1.938m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m)
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m) / Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Donald Brashear ($1.400m)
Aaron Voros ($1.000m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.822m)
Brandon Prust ($0.800m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m)
DEFENSEMEN
Wade Redden ($6.500m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
- Marc Staal ($4.500m) / * Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Matt Gilroy ($1.750m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)
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ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $61.497m; BONUSES: $2.163m; CAP ROOM: $0.066m
MZA in Hartford; Voros in Hartford
McDonagh and Wiese on Rangers
by NTB on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t go to the season with $66k in cap room. Something there has to give. They likely won’t carry 14 forwards, for one.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
remember only Brashear salary is counting; not the body.
by NTB on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Then his cap hit is only $1.3m then, and $166k in cap space.
Still not enough, but slightly better.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can replace MZA and Voros with Wiese.
The big question is does Torts carry a 7th Dman? If not, then I see McDonagh in Hartford. I’m like you, I won’t believe Redden in the minors until I actually see it.
by NTB on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s a sin to bury MZA in Hartford, however NHL unproven he may be.
He as much as anyone may hold the key to Redden. His money might force Sather’s hand, which would be kind of nice.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
he is coming out of a mans league in the SEL. In my opinion the SEL is the second best hockey league on the planet.
He will make this team. Bye bye Redden (I hope)
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by Joe Fortunato on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
gilroy down, mcD up saves another 450K, lol.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i may be in the minority here but
wow 3.325 for 4 years… i don’t like that deal. For these numbers he better step his game up. No more being Staal’s parasite, he needs to play well with whoever he is paired with, and consistently. If he can do that then it would be worth it. But as of right now i see him as an average dman with little physicality and ordinary offensive numbers, and they give him this much? just making Staal’s case even better.
++++100000 Def not the minority
Im so surprised everyone loves these numbers… At most I’d pay for girardi over 4 years is 2.5 3 mil for a shorter deal but that’s it. All h is is defense so we spent over 3 mil for that? He is great defensivly but he has his ups and Downs so let’s not all praise him like a staal. Not syaing anyone is I’m just saying that before anyone compares. I don’t get it somtimes his game has really not changed much since he’s been here. He’s been pretty solid since day one I don’t get why he needs a raise this big. I mean anything over 3m in this cap stricken era is nothing to overlook. That’s a lot of money and over 4 years!!! God damn maybe if we had some flexibility in cap it wouldn’t be so bad but we don’t so as of right now I’m hating this deal. I would have signed him for 2.5 for 3 years or 3 for 2. But since our year is going to be shit anyway I wouldv let him walk brought mcdonagh up let him take this year in stride and the year after I guarentee we’d forget girardi. I don’t know though maybe I’ll warm up to him and his deal during the season but now I hate it.
by klh2009 on Jul 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s excessive but it’s not outrageous. Typical Sather bump of $500-$800k.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is right about there
Look at what Tallinder got on the Devils, I would have to put those 2 defensemen at about similar skill and abilites, or even Salvador on the Devils makes 3 million. Yeah in a perfect world 2.5 would be the number but I am happy with the signing
Since the face been revealed the game got real
See i was going to do that and compare numbers to other players
But other players playe for other teams with other needs and have other cap issues. For us the deal is bad for the length more than the money. 4 years of almost 3.5 cap hit. Damn idk but I just so not see giradi as almost a 4 mil doller player. Crazy but like I said now that I mulled this over the length will hurt us if this was two years it’d be whatever to me but 4 years still don’t get it.
by klh2009 on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He’ll still be a very tradable commodity at that price in 2 years, if it came down to a situation where you needed to shed him.
Length isn’t the issue to me. The extra $500 Sather keeps throwing at people though does add up after a while.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
$500k that is.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed smurf and unfortuneatley i feel like i am seeing sathers plan unfold here. we had 7.8 mil to the cap left at the start of the day and hes going to use all of that to sign staal and girardi. thats not a terrible thing but he could have gone a little cheaper. then he’ll quickly dump brash and voros smoewhere and throw 8 mil a yr at kovy, and then his master plan is complete and he’ll be giggling like a schoolgirl
by BronxBeliever on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
4/11 was the going rate so sather did what he does
by Michael Gleich on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
We overpaid BIG TIME! This contract is gonna be “Rozi Jr” – Girardi wont be horrible, but he will NEVER live up to the price tag. And its 4 YEARS!!!
I like the signing and I’m def glad to have Girardi back in the fold. But let’s be real, who here would give Girardi 3.325? 2.75 max sounds better for a player like him. He’s a 3-4 guy on a better team. Hopefully he continues to improve though and really earn that cash. Girardi’s play always seems to be a matter of confidence. He just needs to get on a role and realize he can play gritty, aloof hockey all the time. Hopefully Staal takes that 4.5 now b/c there is no reason he should get more at this juncture, especially when you compare to other veteran shut down guys like Robin Regehr who earn just over 4mil (granted Staal is younger and still has a ton of potential). Kieth is now earning 5.5 as a norris winner with a few more years behind his belt and Seabrook is getting 3.5 at the moment.
i agree a bit overpaid in my eyes...
but he is a good dman and a top dman when playing with staal…i actually think staal now is gonna get 4.5-5mill now…but i think its gonna be like 7-8 years…which i don’t mind but hopefully its at 4.5
I agree I think he is being overpaid. Unless he steps up his physical game (not only refering to the gaborik incident) he is making too much. He should be giving staal some of that money …
by NYR9320 on Jul 9, 2010 1:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
over paid, but arbitration eligible, don't forget
Girardi had more leverage than Staal…so Sather can low ball him….the only way Staal gets that kind of cash is if there’s an offer sheet or if Sather feels like being generous
Look out Mr. Sather
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I am not working, but I can tell you TSN’s Gord Miller reports San Jose has signed Niklas Hjalmarsson to a four-year, $14M offer sheet.
That’s a bold move by SJ. They coulda really put the screws to Chi if they’d sent an offer sheet for Niemi at the same time.
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and with girardi deal coming first someone could stick the screws to us offering staal 5 mil a year on a sheet.
by Michael Gleich on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but can’t they exceed the cap in the of season by 10%?? Then that would mean they would have to dump salary.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
yes, we would have absolutley no problem matching a 5 mil a yr offer to staal financially so long as we dumped redden at the end of camp. sather might just take the picks at that point, but he would definitely have the capability of matching
by BronxBeliever on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s just wayyyy too much for Dan G. 2.75, maybe…3, I could live with….
but this is just too much.
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Not like its not been said but..
When you over pay other players, how do you take a hard line with your second best defensemen if he wants an extra 300k or he is not signing the deal???
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300k is fine
if the deal were under 3 mil.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Too much
Though it wouldn’t be a problem if we weren’t already so badly hamstrung by Drury and Redden (and, to a lesser extent, Rozsival and Brashear and Gilroy and Boogaard)
Maybe a bit high, TODAY
but, with the way the cap has been escalating, in 2 years, Girardi may be a 5 mil plus commodity, and we will have him for 3.3 then
A poster earlier was even alluding to this when he said he would be pissed if the contract was 2 years.
Plus, his streak of 280 straight games is currently 9th longest in the leauge. a 3 million player who only plays 70 games really costs you 3.3 when you average it out.
One day ppeople complain Sather doesn’t pay our people to stay, when he does, he gets slamed with it was too much.
Time will tell if it was a fair price, too much, or a bargain. Bottom line is they retained a core player on defense, something most people were clammering for.
Via Twitter
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#NYRangers acquire D Steve Eminger from ANA for F Aaron Voros and min.-lg F Ryan Hillier.
Extra 125K in cap hit, really at the ceiling now.
That move also points to the present we are all hoping to un-receive. no more Redden
Hmm….Eminger wouldn’t be brought in to sit in Hartford, that’s for sure.
So now you have:
Staal (presumably) – Girardi – Del Zotto – Rozsival – Redden – Gilroy – Eminger.
Somebody’s done.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Could roll 7 D
and occassionaly throw Gilroy at F where he played before college
There’s no real room amongst the forwards either though. So unless we’re going to have $6.5m in the press box, I’m not sure what they’re doing.
Unless they manage to trade Rozsival.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
if redden does go down to AHL, which i doubt
he won’t get demoted till after camp, so people need to get over the whole spending money on free agent bs….the only way the Rangers get a top forward is via trade
I for one would be happy just to see him go.
I could care less about the money, and hope it is NOT spent elsewhere
no
with the bonus cushion of around 6 million, if sather was able to dump brashear on someone he would have 7.4 million to play with. he can do lots and lots of damage with that
by BronxBeliever on Jul 9, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
no one is taking brashear, so why even talk about it.
by NTB on Jul 9, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
really because we got a serviceable player out of voros who only makes 400k less than brashear. why would a team who needs to make it to the cap floor mind wasting a nothing prospect on brashear. its one year and they can bury him the ahl as the team that signs the player over 35 is the only who cannot do thatw/o cap relief
by BronxBeliever on Jul 9, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Voros is 9 years younger and can still be used as a servicable 4th liner.
Brashear is best used as a paperweight at this point.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why? B/c Voros can actually play hockey. He’s not a bad 4th liner. Brashear cannot play hockey anymore. If a team needs to get to the floor, they are not going to just throw 1.4M down the drain. They would just bring up some minor leaguer or sign one of the dozens of FA still out there.
by NTB on Jul 9, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, i can live with overpaying HIM, 500K. Now, overpaying Boogard 500k which is giving him a 33% more than he deserves is absurd.
by louielounz1 on Jul 9, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is it true that nhl is looking to restructure the current cba after this season? Forgot where I hears it, but word is most general managers are looking for an option that would allow them to be able to buy out players in one shot without facing future cap restrictions? If that’s the case then rangers might just be looking toward the next offseason to buy out Redden and maybe even the final year of Rozi’s contract.
Girardi Supposed Contract
If the Girardi contract turns out to be $3.250 mil per year, it would be a waste of money. He is definitely not worth 2 Boogers. Sather continues to overpay. Rangers will finish behind the Islanders this coming season. Glad that “Are you ready to rumble” Voros will be quacking for the Ducks. Is Girardi worth 3 Steve Emingers?
step by step
this is solid news, just waiting to see the staal deal done now, then grab frolov or another steady winger and we’ll be ready for october! :)
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