Expectations Surrounding Young Defenseman

Since his entry level deal expired.

Right bottom is guys that faced good quality of competition, and didn’t do so hot.

And Left top, is guys that faced the kittens and mauled them?

Right?

Where do you think we get our data? Love the behindthenet guys

hmm, ok, that’s good to know, these soccer stats just confound me

Age 18 – Zach Bogosian

No

Age 19 – Erik Johnson, Drew Doughty, Luke Schenn, Dmitri Kulikov, Erik Karlsson, Michael Del Zotto, Tyler Myers, Victor Hedman, Zach Bogosian

No, Yes, No, No, No, No, Maybe, No, No

Age 20 – Kris Letang, Kris Russell, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Drew Doughty, Luke Schenn

Maybe, No, Maybe, Yes, No

Age 21 – Alexander Edler, Anton Stralman, Cam Barker, Jack Johnson, Jeff Schultz, Keith Yandle, Ladislav Smid, Marc Staal, Matt Niskanen, Brian Lee, Kris Letang, Kris Russell, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Erik Johnson, Jason Demers

No, No, No, No, Yes (/homer, but seriously, no), No, No, No (not older Staal for younger Staal), No, No, Maybe, No, Maybe, No, No

Age 22 – Andrej Meszaros, Braydon Coburn, Brent Burns, Brent Seabrook, Dion Phaneuf, Mike Green, Shea Weber, Alexander Edler, Andrej Sekera, Boris Valabik, Brett Festerling, Cam Barker, Chris Butler, Jack Johnson, Jeff Schultz, Keith Yandle, Ladislav Smid, Marc Staal, Matt Niskanen, Roman Polak, Cody Franson, Kris Letang, Kris Russell, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Niklas Hjalmarsson, Ryan Parent, Ryan Wilson, Taylor Chorney

No, No, No, No, No, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, Staal, No, No, No, Maybe, No, Maybe, No, No, No, No

I may be a little high on Letang and Vlasic, by the way, and low on Erik Johnson.

It’s just my opinion, but I think Staal needs to develop either a better physcial game, or a better offensive game to complement his positioning, before I but him in the upper echelon.

While I’ve been reading the comments, I realize my 75% figure might be a little high, since I included the most of the 18/19/20’s and there names kept popping up in the 21/22’s. Prob closer to somewhere between 50 & 60 percent. Granted, some of that is me thinking Staal might not hit his ceiling, and other guys will. The only two “can’t miss” 100% are Doughty and ’Neuf.

And since I know Smurf doesn’t wanna hear me suggest how we should move Staal for Ryan instead of overpaying him anymore….

How about Staal/Phaneuf centered deal with Toronto??

Here’s the my take on it

Toronto Gets: Staal, Reddon, Cally, Grachev

NY Gets: Phaneuf, Kaberle, Jerry D’Amigo and Christian Hanson

Before I get killed for putting everything you love in one trade, this could be huge for us.

Reddon is gone forever, he becomes Phaneuf. Not a bad deal at all. We take on Kaberle’s contract for this year, and we can keep him for under 4, he’s a better version of Rosi. ’Neuf and Kaberle can anchor the youth movement on D, with Kaberle checking out in a year or two (if we resign him) and Pheneuf here for the long haul.

Burke likes Staal alot, but he won’t go straight up for Dion, I’ve also heard he’s hot on Cally, and I think Cally’s skill set would be better served in Toronto where they have alot of young, skilled, players but you could use a younger grinder who’s been in the league a few years and can relate to the young guys, be a good influence (work ethic), but still be a regular player (he might be able to latch on in the top 6 there). It would take Staal and Cally alone to get rid of Reddon’s contract and land us Phaneuf, but I think that’s a tad high on our part, that’s why I added Grachev and expanded it.

D’Amigo and Hanson are the 8 and 13 prospects in their system respectivly. D’Amigo is WJC alum who had a great tourney along with Stepan, Bourque, and Kreider. It would hurt to give up Grachev, but I think D’Amigo would be THRILLED to land here. Hanson isn’t too high up in the organization, but he could be a solid third line center for years to come. We need depth up the middle, and he can provide it. He’s huge, but plays with the soft hands and good sense that a kid who came up around the pro game will have.

Fraid you lost me there. :( I know about behindthenet and QC and QT I got, I just couldn’t find a Corsi/60. I think I’ll do as redarmyline suggests and use RelCorsi.

Thanks, I’m familiar with BtN :) I just didn’t see a Corsi/60, is all.