Rangers Recap: Youngsters Shine as Rangers Dominate Wings, 5-1
The Rangers improved to 3-1-0 in the preseason with tonight's 5-1 victory over the Detroit Red Wings at Madison Square Garden. Even though the Wings did not have some of their big guns in the lineup, this should still be looked at as a very hopeful sign for the Blueshirts. This was their most complete win and they did in a dominant fashion against a very skilled hockey club. More importantly, there were some major individual performances, especially from the players that are unsure if they will survive the final cuts or not.
The Rangers got things kick started early in this game when Marian Gaborik scored on the powerplay exactly one minute into the first period. You have to give Michal Rozsival credit on the play for drawing the Wings' entire defense towards him, opening a lane for Gaborik to take the shot. About three minutes later Sean Avery received a pass from Ruslan Fedotenko, which he threw on net from a sharp angle and happened to score. A big message from head coach John Tortorella this season is to shoot from anywhere and everywhere. Avery did it there and obviously it paid off.
Defenseman Mike Sauer also scored in the period when his wrister from the point banked off the post and in behind Howard, giving the Rangers a 3-0 lead over the Wings heading into the intermission. That was probably the best single period New York has played throughout the entire preseason, not only offensively, but defensively as well.
The second stanza, however, fell in favor of the Wings as their top guys tried to regain control of the tempo. Henrik Lundqvist stood strong, though, only allowing a single goal to Brian Rafalski, which was deflected by the stick of Michal Rozsival in front. The Wings held the lead in shots in that period, 14-9, but were unable to convert due to the outstanding netminding from Hank.
The Blueshirts widened the gap in the third, scoring two more goals and keeping the Wings from gaining on their lead. Derek Stepan had one of those goals, as he slammed a kick-pass from Fedotenko to the back of the net. You could tell Derek was amped up at that point based on his enthused double fist pump. It was the perfect thing for him to finish off an impressive performance.
The prettiest goal of the game, to me anyway, was Michael Del Zotto's. Michael and Alexander Frolov started a give-and-go in the neutral zone, which eventually ended up with Frolov feeding DZ with a cross-ice pass for the one-timer at the top of the circles. Plays like that normally are not easy to pull off, which is why you do not see them too often. But this particular one was executed perfectly and surely brought a smile to coach Tortorella's face.
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There is a whole list of individuals that played well tonight, so I am going to quickly run through the main ones that stood out to me. First up is rookie center Derek Stepan. Stepan was moved around the lineup a bit tonight, but primarily skated with Sean Avery and Fedotenko. Regardless of which line he was on, Derek showed some eye-opening individual efforts throughout the tilt. He is very creative when it comes to cutting from the outside to the slot and maintaining control of the puck. That is a hard skill to master but Stepan, showing confidence, pulled it off several times. In my eyes, he has made the team, and that would hold true if he scored that goal in the third or not.
Ruslan Fedotenko also had a great game. He is a player that was invited to training camp on a tryout basis and does not have a contract at the moment. He is a very smart passer, I have noticed, and his playmaking ability is what jumps out at me when I watch him play. Ruslan and Avery have apparently formed some chemistry with each other, so that could be a potential third line tandem for the season.
Speaking of Avery, he was on tonight. His confidence is booming right now, as you may have noticed based on the dekes he was whipping out. There was a shift in the first period where he juked a Red Wing in the neutral zone, came in and did a behind the back drop pass, and then later in the play put the puck through his legs as a self-pass to himself in the slot. Yes, that was Sean Avery out there, not Gaborik wearing his jersey. If Avery has the skill to pull off those moves I think he has been hiding a lot over the past few years. I think he is going to have a career year, personally.
Sticking with the forwards, I think the first line of Frolov - Christensen - Gaborik got better as the game progressed. At first they were misreading each other and looked sloppy. But by the third period their forecheck was in full swing and they were creating scoring chances left and right. All three skated strong and played some exciting hockey. We shall see if Tortorella elects to keep them together for Friday's game against the Senators.
On defense, the two youngsters ran the show. Mike Sauer and Pavel Valentenko both played very well and are making a case to stay with the team. Tortorella is going to have a very tough decision to make between these two because, in my opinion, there is only room for one of them if either happens to make it. They both play very physical and are crease clearing defenseman. It is hard for me to pick one, but I might have to go with Valentenko.
Oh yeah, I will be a man and admit that Sauer proved me completely wrong in my earlier piece saying there is not room for him on the team. He played much better than I expected tonight. Good for him.
Matt Gilroy had another flashy night. By that I mean he was very noticeable out there on both ends of the rink. I love what this kid brings to the team, and I do not know if I am being biased because he grew up playing at the same hockey rink as me, but I really want him on this team. I do not know what you guys think, but to me he has done everything Torts has asked of him. No doubt in my mind Matt is in the lineup come opening night.
And last but not least, good ol' Henrik Lundqvist. Hank returned to form in this game after hitting a rough patch on Saturday in New Jersey. A 35-save effort from the King helped the Blueshirts to victory, without a doubt, and we expect to see a lot more of that during the regular season. No word yet on if he will be playing Friday. I would think not.
Another round of cuts will be made tomorrow (Thursday) as the coaching staff works their way down to their regular season roster. I am going to predict that Todd White will be sent packing, because he has been invisible. He seems like a nice guy and all, but he has done absolutely nothing while with this team. The rest, really, is all up in the air.
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Looks like competition is really heating up between McD, Valentenko, and Sauer. Good game overall, excited for Ottowa.
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by Scratch and Snif on Sep 29, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Taking Valentenko over Sauer would be shortsighted imo for a couple of reasons. One, Sauer would probably be lost on waivers. Two, Valentenko has more upside so he needs playing time so let him be a 1st pair guy in Hartford instead of a 7 up here.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Yeah it really is a toss-up, I just went with the one that has been more impressive in my eyes. But I agree that he may need more time. Although that snarl wouldn’t be bad to have on the team this year.
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by Nick Montemagno on Sep 29, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well to me it is a combination of him needing more time, but also having 1 vs both in the organization.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
defense depth
Not impressed with Rosi tonight. He looked terrible on the PP. Rather have Valentenko shooting the puck. Lot of depth on defense, might not be a bad idea to package Rosi with another D man/forward to get something we need.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but not going to get much for him, his cap hit needs to be cut in half for that
He does have value to some teams, he needs to have a good year then we could move him
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A team with some cap space in need a veteran Dman could take him off our hands seeing how his actual salary for the next 2 years is not as much as the 5 mil cap hit
by nyrangerfan521 on Sep 29, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
next offseason or even maybe at the deadline this year to a cheap team looking to hit the cap floor he will be attractive because his actual salary is only 3 mil next year.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yea 2 million for free to a cap floor team
The Rangers could even get something decent in return
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and did you see him cough up the puck and make bad passes the rest of the game ? same old Rosi, one good thing, two bad things. Time to move on without him. He’s not exactly a stud defensive defensemen or leader. We need another Beukeboom.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
not saying he had a great night or that he will or should even play the pp when it counts. just saying if we bash we should also admit what was good. he is nothing special but none of our other guys are ready to play top 4. next year he can go suck on a lemon.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If Rozsival would use his wrist shot that he’s famous for, I could easily see him getting PP time… but he’s gotta take chances… puck cycling and pinching in just below the right face-off dot, he’s got a relatively quick release on his wrist shot that finds its way to the net.
In contrast, if all he’ll do is settle for parking by the blue line and letting off that wild slap shot that rarely results in a shot on goal, I’d rather keep him off the power play.
we have a couple beuke’s coming, but just because we want one doesnt mean we should rush them and possibly screw them up.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
check this out: http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/blue-notes-1.811976/rangers-3-wings-1-end-of-2-1.2324891
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by Nick Montemagno on Sep 29, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
we speculated during the game of sauer to phx.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
All speculation on the trade front, but Columbus scouts have been watching Rangers, two people have mentioned Sauer to Phoenix for Tikhonov and C Stephen Weiss may be available in Florida. As was the case last year, teams are apparently asking about Dubinsky. Rangers almost always decline to comment on trade rumors.
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by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
O wow I missed this post I just saw it
I thought Weiss had a NMC. I think they would use Weiss as bait to try to get Olesz off the books, if Weiss could be moved in the first place.
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Tikhonov
Sounds like another Enver Lisin but to get something for Sauer (if the team decides he can’t make the roster) would be good.
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Tikhonov
is a much bigger prospect than you (and a lot of the hockey media) give him credit for. He was part of the Coyotes “rush up out prospects” campaign and it slowed his development. But that kid is a big time scorer and has soft hands.
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by Joe Fortunato on Sep 30, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I love Dubi, but if we’re getting Stephen Weiss, I can live with moving him.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 30, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
…but I hope in a year or so, he and McIlrath join, McD, MDZ, Gilroy Staal….I think Valentenko shows real promise.
It really depends on his rate of development. His development in the second half of last season was immense, especially with the Isles’ D prospect getting traded and McIlrath getting some time to shine. If he keeps that up all season, he may get a long look next season.
de haan, who should make there club this year
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
as far as him getting a long look we are going to probably have 5-6 basically locked in and no reason to rush him in an mdz situation where it is junior or here and he ends up suffering bigger struggles. treat it like staal let him have two more years in junior and then come.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I am hoping for 2 years
but it took Staal longer I hope 3 worst case.
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MDZ is out of his mind right now. Save it for the games that count, chief.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Sep 29, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
How can you not like him scoring in pre-season games
lol
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by Joe Fortunato on Sep 29, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sauer to Phoenix?
That is a rumor coming from Steve Zipay of Newsday. So maybe my pick of Valentenko will be right after all: http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/blue-notes-1.811976/rangers-3-wings-1-end-of-2-1.2324891
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by Nick Montemagno on Sep 29, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
I want at least a second
Surprising with his brother oin the roster.
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actually it doesnt necessarily mean that as they could keep eminger and still send Tank down cause they “need a vet” will be the reasoning.
tikhonov could be a nice piece to get if they were going to cut sauer anyway.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
two people have mentioned Sauer to Phoenix for Tikhonov
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
O I was just kidding, I really like Yandle and it would take a lot more to get him anyway.
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well if we are talking about who we like can we get ekman-larsson ;-)
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
he will be excellent top 3 D prospect in the game right now w pietrangelo and carlson.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he going to the AL this year or staying over seas?
Carlson is the Wash player right? I get him confused with the Ott d-man but I think he is with a Karlson with a K.
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O he played last year and he was ripping the league up I remember
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ekman-larsson is in camp. think he is going to make their team. Carlson is the one i wanted over MDZ in the draft a few years back. yea, washington.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He is still in the KHL I think
I don’t know about that trade.
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like i said, if u r going to cut him and probably lose him to waivers no harm in it.
kid scored 14 goals in 25 games in the K last year at 21, that’s production.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I would hope they would just keep him in that case
but if they decided he was not making it he is a pretty good prospect for free. And I am not sure if Sauer can even stay healthy
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Better to get something
For Sauer than to see him walk and get snagged on Waivers. Tikhonov sounds interesting- former 1st rounder, 22 years old.
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yeah a couple people I have talked to said
if that was the trade, it would be good for the Rangers.
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rookie defense
Don’t be afraid of keeping Valentenko. Up here in MTL they are keeping PK Subban to run the PP until Markov returns and he will scare the crap out of you with his serge savard/denis savard spin o ramma’s. High risk, high reward. Try to get another defensmen from MTL named Yemelin.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
subban is in a completely different situation and on a totally different level than tank. subban played in the playoffs last year and in his playoff stint showed he was more than ready. pk is seen as a top pair D and his stint in the nhl (16 games) was nearly as many as Tank has played in total b/w hamilton (ahl) and the khl the last 2 years (19). no reason to rush tank.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
Tenk is a RFA anyway, if we kept him in the AHL and brought him up next year we could have 3 more years of him if he signed a normal deal.
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They are different types of defensemen but Subban is not a good defensive defenseman. He won’t be a top pair d/man but an offensive one. He may be a poor man’s Brian Leetch or a better Souray. Point is that Valentenko is a hitter and can actually play defense.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Green plays top pair and he cant defend me.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
thats why washington is in so much trouble.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
they would take scott stevens or Rod Langway in a heartbeat over Green
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Green is even better than the one they have right now.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 30, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Wondering if someone could help me out if they know off hand.
M Zuc A is on an entry level contract. If he was a free agent signing, why does that happen where his cap number (per cap geek) is 1.75 million and he only gets 900k if he plays in the NHL? I know if happens with draft picks but didn’t know that free agents can have it also.
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The 1.75 is because of bonuses just like McD says 1.3. Base salary is probably around 850, dont remember their exact numbers and dont get the base unless in the nhl
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad I missed this game
it looked like a great one
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by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
white is for sure. if step makes it then one of boyle/kennedy is the likely out.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope steph makes it, he looked good. i understand the reasoning of dropping him down but it would be fun to watch him this season
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by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s retro and classic. Would love to see a third jersey with this theme. I have a mitchell and ness one and it’s great.
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
no got a link? and the reason I don’t like it is because I don’t feel like I am looking at the garden… maybe it will grow
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by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 29, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
How did you end up being a ranger fan?
Did you move up there or just happen to pick that team?
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o okay lol
I was going to be pretty shocked if you were born there and were a NYR fan.
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I have season tickets in MTL and I love to mess around with the French fans. They are so easy to piss off. Price is my favorite target right now. I’ll wear the other teams jersey just to cheer against MTL.
They like Gionta in MTL and he deserves it
by ranger fan in mtl on Sep 30, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
how’s the reaction in Mon to Gionta being captain?
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It is special
To remind us of all the success the orginazation has had over the 85 years !!!!!llol
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Am I the only one thats scared that Fedotenko is going to get cut?
I think this guy can be a PERFECT 3rd line winger for any team in the league, just has been playing over his head in Pitt the past few years. For some reason I feel like the Rangers arent going to keep him despite his great play. Reminds me of what happened to Nedved a few years back.
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he isnt getting cut. has played too well and has history with torts
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember being disappointed when Nedved got cut that year
But there wasn’t really a roster spot for him and he had definitely lost a step (still he scored I think twice in preseason, maybe three times).
Feds has done everything to earn his roster spot, I was never on the Feds being a good idea bandwagon (I don’t think there is a bandwagon…) but he seems to have some chemistry with Avery on the third line and will do the dirty things near the net that need doing. I’ll be happy if he is a Ranger.
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I thought Kennedy played very well tonight, and he has surprised me this preseason… I think he makes it as the 13th forward
I guess I under estimated him also
But I did not know a lot about him. A couple people who know him told me they pretty much expected him to do well.
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good post
I agree I think Avery is gonna have a career season
he has the skills I know that and finally it seems his head is in the right place
if there is one guy i think on verge of a breakout career year its him
Frolov watch is gonna be money too
Stepan this kid has “it” he does everything well, he is gonna be fun to watch and a fan fave for his play
love Stepan so glad he is here now
I thought when we brought Fedentenko in I thought wow that guy is a decent player to be getting just a tryout
I really think keeping him on this team would be a very smart decision
Avery Stepan Fedentenko is a line I want to see more of
Valentenko should make the team as our last defenseman like his physical play we need another banger not another offensive guy
MDZ is gonna breakout not if he is he is realyl talented
I like Gilroy alot I felt bad for him last season that was a tough year for him with really big up and downs
gotta keep this kid because if not he will shine somewhere else and burn us I know it
but I always wondered if he would make a better forward
Tim Kennedy I thought at the time was a f’n steal, guy is young and talented thats another kid we should keep
this is a talented team its crazy because a year ago i didnt think we were that talented heck even 5 months ago
Gabs Frolov Christensen Cally AA Dubi Anisimov Avery Prust Kennedy Fedentenko Stepan MDZ Staal Girardi Valenteko Gilroy Henrik
man thats a really talented hockey team
if Drury comes back and is decent man thats even more talent
the Rangers are gonna be a team thats slept on, we dont have the big names outside of Gabs and Henrik and we dont need shiny big names
talent and depth is what we have with a worldclass goaltender
my expectations of this team are the highest they have been in a long long time
by Archie Barberio on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
I am looking at AA and or Dubi to take a giant step this year.
AA has a great shot, I think they are moving him up a line so he will get more ice time.
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there are so many wings out there right now that unless we role 4 legit lines on nights where we sit booger im worried our younger centers get shafted
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends if they keep Stepan imo
I think AA will get a look on the second line and either Dubi or Cali will be on the 2nd the other on the 3rd. I hear you though, I think Prust could be more then a 4th line player (not based on this preseason) It is hard to project. You think we will see the same Torts chnging lines twice a week this year?
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here’s the problem. say EC gets the 1st line job and AA gets Dubi and Cally. If you keep Aves-Step-Fed together, you are going to play Prospal and Dru on the 4th line?
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they will Float 4 lines
It is a tough call. Cali and Drury will get extra minutes on the PK but I see your point.
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more likely is Torts claims he doesnt want to overwhelm AA and sticks him way down the lineup. The wild-cards are Aves, Fed Prospal.
I could see:
Frolov-EC-Gabby
Dubi-Step-Cally
Prospal-AA-Fed
Aves-Dru-Prust
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
if step goes 1, then i put AA 2 and EC 3.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
and if they send stepan down?
try prospal at 2nd line center? I would love AA being able to handle the 2nd line, it would slove a lot of problems if step does n’t make it
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i dont see them sending him down after tonight. if he goes down.
Fro-EC-Gabs
Dubi-AA-Cally
Prospal-Dru-Fed
Aves-Boyle-Prust
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he couold handle it
If he could play well at his age as the first line center for the New York Rangers, he would be a pretty special kid imo.
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right on cue from torts
"I have to be careful with Artie and not skip a step here and throwing him in between them," Tortorella said. "Last year, I moved him up and it seemed to be too much for him. He is playing with a ton of confidence right now and I don’t want to screw him up by giving him too much. It could happen. I tried it with Derek Stepan and I thought he handled himself very well in that situation and I think Artie will too."
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Nice to see all the beat writers finally asking why AA hasnt gotten a shot, maybe they saw my post ;-)
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I love AA, I have been picturing a future of AA and Grach on a second line of doom for a few years now :)
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i see kreider and werek both ahead of EG right now.
what will be interesting is following this year and a number of key guys dont have deals for next year. those decisions will determine a lot. we have cally, dubi, aa, frolov, gilroy all up, so we have a lot of money possibly as well.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I have been complaining about the way Sather handled this
To have all that talent up in the same year,(not Frolov) they could have some leverage. I hate to say it but I don’t see a situation where Cali and Dubi are both kept.
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well i think if Slats knew he could get Frolov for what he did and Step would be ready at least 1 if not both of Prospal and EC might not be here.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean take frolov and stepan out and we have exactly 14 forwards right now. lines wouldnt be as good, but we would know exactly what they would look like.
prospal-ec-gabs
dubi-aa-cally
aves-dru-fed
kennedy-boyle-prust
booger maybe white.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
leetchie...
why are you always trying to place dubi and cally together? i think drury and cally need to play together with some speed and two way versatility on the other wing. that’s our best defensive combo IMHO. come playoffs they should be on the ice every third shift.
Frolov-EC-Gabby
Prospal-AA-Dubi
Avery-Stepan-Fed
booger-Dru-Cally
kennedy-boyle/white-prust
Kennedy could swing up and down the chart and get PP time
then again...
not all of these guys will be here. expect a trade dumping two of them plus a prospect for a top name, scoring forward and then we begin to resemble Chicago’s mix of speed, youth and strength.
I like Dubi & Cally together, as they have played well together in the past and make a good penalty killing combo. And Drury at this point is probably a 4th line center (though he’ll also get PK time and take key defensive faceoffs), while Cally is not.
While I hope Stepan makes the team, I am not convinced he will. But if he does, the forwardsassured of being in the regular lineup are:
Gaborik, Frolov, Dubi. Cally, AA, Avery, Stepan & Booger, and Prospal, EC and Drury (once healthy) are nearly sure. That makes 11 forwards, assuming no trades, so only one spot left (2 until Drury heals). Fed has probably earned it in the preseason, leaving Prust, Boyle, Kennedy and White out – hopefully Boyle and Prust stay as depth, Kennedy goes to Hartford and White gets cut. If that is case, my lines would be:
Frolov – Prospal/Stepan – Gaborik
Dubi – AA – Cally
Avery – Stepan/Prospal – Fed
Booger – Drury – EC
Boyle or Prust can fill in for Drury while he’s hurt. I suppose EC could switch with Prospal, but Stepan certainly won’t be a 4th liners (I don’t see a problem with 3rd line though; 12-15 minutes a night should be plenty to justify keepng him in NY). The only other alternative to keep EC off the 4th line would be to have Fed or Avery move down, probably Fed until he proves himself more in the regular season.
they arent cutting him 3 months after giving him a 4 year deal.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK I am a big Grachev guy, I think that once he gets it we will see a night and day difference not like slowly progressing each year like most.
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im big on effort and i know with Werek and Kreider i get it every night, im not sold Grach is giving that. I think talent wise he is ahead of Werek, but not all around game or effort.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah i think he has some maturing to do, would love Cali’s motor is Grachev’s body. Players like Grachev who have a lot of natural skill have things easier coming up, They don’t have to put in anywhere near the effort that a Cali would. But NHL takes more then just skill. Once he understands this I think we will see what we were all hoping we would see out of him. He should have a chapped ass from getting sent down, this will be an important year for him to show that he wants it.
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one concern is if Step stays not sure the play maker at least at center isnt much better than last year. he will have mza though.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree on kreider, but I doubt Werek is ahead of Grachev at this point. Werek is coming off a 63 point season (in 57 games) in the OHL as an 18 year old. A year ago, as an 18 year old in the OHL, Grachev put up 80 points in 60 games. While Grachev was disappointing the 2nd half of last year, I am not sure that a 26 point season in the AHL as a 19 year old is necessarily less impressive than a 63 point season in the OHL as an 18 year old. Or to look at it another way,. a year ago Grachev was one of the Rangers last cuts in training camp, and he played in 2 preseason games this year (although didn’t do much). Werek didn’t play any preseason games this season. If the Rangers truly believed that Werek was a better prospect than Grachev right now, I would think they would have played him in a game or two.
Werek’s 63 points in 57 games translates to 26.28 NHLe points (NHL equivalent, based on 82 games)
Grachev’s 80 in 60 translates to 31.71 NHLe points. His year in the AHL translates to 12.628 NHLe points.
Grachev 18 > Werek 18 > Grachev 19
I agree the organization sees Grachev ahead of Werek. I don’t necessarily agree that the organization is correct in their assessment however.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 30, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not sure how much stock to put in these translations in evaluating their status as prospects. If taken literally, Werek’s numbers imply that if he was on the Rangers last year as an 18 year old, he would have essentially replicated Anisimov’s season as a 21 year old, which we are all pretty excited about. That would have made Werek the Rangers’ 8th or 9th leading scorer, and a few points from #5. If he really could have done that, the Rangers should have cleared a spot for him this season.
Grachev’s translation looks more reasonable, but even there, a player who puts up 13 points in the NHL as a teenager can have huge upside. And it is worth being cautious with reading too much into Grachev’s translation, since virtually all AHLers are older than Grachev, with less room for future development. For the first half of the year Grachev played well enough to earn an injury callup to the Rangers for a day or so. I’d like to attribute his 2nd half slump to stamina issues being a teen among men, adjustment issues to the pro game, linemates and possibly language difficulties intensifying the other issues (i.e., as long as he was playing well in NA, he couldn’t get too depressed over language barriers, but those can have more of an impact when things aren’t going so well). I hope that is the case anyway.
the difference is Werek did it by himself in Kingston while Grachev had Hodgson and Duchene
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
we have guys that are very young, and very likely will be household names in a few years… also callahan doesn’t get the respect he deserves from the league, anybody who watches a Rangers game or when the rangers play their team notices ryan callahan just a heart and soul player that fans love to watch… But don’t be surprised if in 3 years guys like Kreider, Stepan, Valentenko, Grachev, Anisimov become well known players around the league, maybe not world class, but at least known…
by Clalicata17 on Sep 29, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yes...
glad you said what i’ve been thinking too. people were polling us low this season, even folks on here. my guess is that we finish between 10-15 games over .500 and seed between 3-6 in the east for the playoffs this year. i also think we’re built to go deep into the playoffs if we can just get our foot in the door. with all the depth we have we’re also one trade away from pulling in an amazing talent when it becomes open. other GM’s will be sure to be scouting this team and Sather’s phone will be going off the hook. Watch. he’s going to be offered some great deals but i think the cards are in our hands and he needs to wait, wait, wait. he’s got two years to pull the trigger on getting the right person to fill whatever holes in our chemistry need to be addressed. there’s talent, and then there’s how the talent gels. we just need to watch and see what happens. whatever line-up we go with on opening night, its just the beginning. kids are going to go up and down, injuries will happen, someone is going to take control of Hartford and come down 95 and prove themselves just like Subban did.
this should be a very interesting season.
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It is hard to say, this division is real tough even with NYI catching up
I would love to be as high as a 3rd seed, I just don’t see it with Shitsburg and Philly and NJ. 6th is what I thought they could be unlss a major injury to a key player happens.
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nyi took huge hits with streit and okposo so they wont catch us this year.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed I just meant they are not terrible, they are closer to lke an
Atlanta or just a young team that is tougher then they look.
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watch tampa. gagne, a goalie, some nice moves
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Ellis
was a freaking steal at 1.5 million. I was shocked.
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any idea if connolly is going to make their club this year?
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Gange
might allow them to keep him down a year. They got a pretty sick top 6
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i think we have more going on than Buffalo did last year. in addition to gabby and frolov i see a bunch of potential 20 goal scorers on the club: dubi; calli; AA; Stepan; Vinny. After that we have a bunch of 15 goal scorers in Avery; EC; Fed…
who knows…
I can see why EC has driven people/teams crazy in the past.
With his skill set, he can easily be at least a 65 point guy especially if they put him on the top line. I hope he will step up his game knowing where he will play the next two years. It seemed like he thought about his future and where he was going to play next year, (which is understandable) now he can just focus on his game.
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I think we will see a lot more for his real good days then the days where he is playing and you ask yourself “Did EC dress today?” So I think 20 goals or so from him is not lock you up crazy to expect.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. If Christensen can find consistency, I easily see him scoring 25 easily. He’s got the talent of an elite goal scorer, but doesn’t give 100% every shift. He was a +11 last year during his time with the Rangers, so if with a full 82 games and hopefully Torts runs 4 lines, Christensen absolute ceiling this season will be 25-20-45, provided he’s got a decent puck-moving defenseman feeding him breakout passes. He’s a shoot-first kind of guy, and he has the skills to finish. I’m not saying I see him without a shadow of a doubt scoring 25 goals this season… I’m saying if he realizes that if the coach thinks he’s been invisible for a couple games, he could easily see some time in the press box (especially if Torts goes with a full roster), and steps his game up a notch or two like he’s shown he can.
I’m merely used to him taking it to the net, not concerned at all about his passing. If he can score 20-25 goals this season, I won’t care about the number of assists, though he’ll probably have a 55-60 point season if he’s centering Gabby and Frolov
Even if EC shot at his career high rate (13.5% his big year in PIT), he’d need 185 shots on goal to get 25 goals. If he has a better than career average year of 10% shooting, he needs 250 SOG. His career rate is 2.02 per game (165 shots).
Does it mean he can’t do it? Nope. But “easily scoring 25” is a ridiculous expectation for him.
Be happy with 15-20-35. If he gets full 1st line time, 15-30-45.
I like him, but temper the expectations.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 30, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
if he gets 1st line time i expect 35-40 assists.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the third line with Avery & Fedotenko, I think I said these two would be on the same line together or close to it. For Stepan it doesn’t really matter where in the lineup you can put him. He will shine regardless. I feel very confident for Stepan and let’s see if he is going to keep his #57 or change it up.
I agree with Mantemango. Christensen looked alot better as the game progressed. Hopefully he will be that center that will do well with Gabby & Frolov. I feel pretty good about this Rangers team right now. I believe a better season is coming & making the playoffs. But right now, that’s as far as I can expect them to go.
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 29, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
said all along i see him flipping to 21.
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever he wants mleetch, whatever he wants. ;-)
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 29, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't
assume that the rangers are going to tear things up… it’s a very young team and there is going to certainly be growing pains… championships aren’t built over night in the NHL
Did I say a Championship? I said make the playoffs.
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 29, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m just saying that they are building a team for a championship (or so they say)… so the goal isn’t just to make the playoffs and be happy with that… i wasn’t saying u inferred we’d win a championship… just saying it’s going to take time i think before we become a consistent team…
by Clalicata17 on Sep 29, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i see us 2 years away. we have a lot more on the way with MZA, Werek, Horak, McWrath. Gabby and Hank still at their top, MDZ and AA, McD, Step further along and a 14 mil coming off Rozi, Dru, Aves
by Michael Gleich on Sep 29, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching the Rangers in 60 from tonight’s game. After Stepan Scored, there was a OH YEAH! from the crowd. That’s awesome to hear.
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 29, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Frolov will calm down Anisimov
I see Frolov helping out Anisimov this season. Frolov will probably mentor him as both are Russian’s. Give him more confidence and hopefully score more than what his totals were last year.
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 29, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
i loved what i’ve seen from anisimov so far… he’s been using his body well and protecting the puck like jagr used to do… (he’s not jagr) he looks very good…
by Clalicata17 on Sep 29, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Anisimov definitely did more than bulk up a little in the off-season… He’s almost always kept his head up when he enters the zone, which is one of the few things he needed to work on. I think we’re all gonna like what we see of him this season :)
I was pleased to see that too
Keep your head up Artie! Not only can you make more plays that way you’ll stay off of YouTube in highlight reel hits.
I want him to shoot more, especially around the net, he had a chance against Detroit where he should have just threw it on net but he went for a pass instead and the play got broken up. He wasn’t in a great scoring area but he had no one in front of him.
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Frolov
is going to make a compelling argument to be signed for a nice contract at the end of the season…
i would love those numbers
I am just afraid it would be more like 6/30-6/32
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If he has a 60+ point season, I don’t see him signing for anything less than 4.5-5m per year. I’m sure after all the PP time we’ll give him that he’s virtually a lock for 60 points, and if we don’t give him a suitable contract he’ll bail… unless he really enjoys playing with Gaborik and Anisimov and we go on a decent playoff run.
I don’t know if anyone noticed, but during one of the penalty kills McDonagh had a hard time clearing the puck out of the zone. While it didn’t result in the goal, he has to handle the puck a little better. In his defense, though, Detroit was playing a very aggressive forecheck all game, making quick reactions… I’m sure he’ll continue to develop once he’s a little more used to the NY spotlight.
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by Joe Fortunato on Sep 30, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick, fantastic summary but
“But this particular one was executed perfectly and surely brought a smile to coach Tortorella’s face.”
You should know that Torts doesn’t smile.
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this is why I love infusion of prospects and youth
on a veteran team. players who are hungry and want to win, and want a secure job.
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Broke his nose and kept playing. I really, really like this kid and loves what he brings to the club. I will be downright depressed if he doesn’t get a legitimate chance to make the roster next year.
Another great article by Jesse Spector Valentenko a Real Dynamo
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My CUTS after last night
White has to be gone after last night. Buy him out or Trade with Weise, Byers or Kennedy Prospal (Though I like Prospal to stay). Sign R-Fed. Drop Eminger and rotate McD, Tank and Sauer for 25 -30 games each or send McD or Tank down for some more seasoning and run each McD/Tank and Sauer for 40 games. Can they expand the roster to 25? It would just make it so much easier.
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