New York Rangers Breaking News: Tim Erixon, Ryan Bourque and Carl Hagelin Among Those Cut
by Joe Fortunato on Oct 1, 2011 10:11 AM EDT
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The New York Rangers have trimmed their roster down to 25 players, cutting Dylan McIlrath, Tim Erixon, Ryan Bourque, Carl Hagelin, Dale Weise and Chris Newbury.
That means that both Mats Zuccarello and Michael Del Zotto are still odds-on favorites to earn their spots on the New York Rangers 2011 starting lineup. Andrew Gross is reporting that John Tortorella wants 13 forwards for opening night, and that Erik Christensen and Sean Avery are fighting for that final spot.
The Rangers have kept around Brendan Bell and Stu Bickel, but I assume one of them will be cut once Marc Staal gets back into game shape.
I will be honest with you here: Tim Erixon being cut is a surprise to me. I fully expect him to play for the Connecticut Whale for some of the year to get seasoning, and be a mid-season call-up for the Rangers like Ryan McDonagh was last year.
For Bourque and Hagelin, this wasn't their year to make the team, it's next year when they can shine. Both of them might end up being mid-season call-ups themselves, although we'll have to wait and see on that one. All but McIlrath were assigned to the AHL. McIlrath was sent back down to juniors.
The Rangers will be looking for him to step up next year as well, but he had a fantastic camp and really opened some eyes.
The Rangers official press release is below the jump, along with all the remaining players on the roster.
New York, October 1, 2011 - New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has assigned forwards Ryan Bourque, Carl Hagelin, John Mitchell, Kris Newbury and Dale Weise, and defensemen Tim Erixon and Blake Parlett to Connecticut of the American Hockey League (AHL). Dylan McIlrath has also been assigned to Moose Jaw of the Western Hockey League (WHL).
The Rangers now have 25 players remaining on their active roster, including three goaltenders, eight defensemen and 14 forwards. The Blueshirts will continue their European exhibition schedule tomorrow, October 2 vs. HC Slovan Bratislava in Bratislava, Slovakia (11:00 a.m. ET), before opening their 2011-12 regular season schedule on Friday, October 7 vs. the Los Angeles Kings at Stockholm, Sweden (1:00 p.m. ET), as part of the 2011 Compuware NHL Premiere.
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Never thought i’d see Bell have a shot at the opening night roster. I admit I gave his tweet a hard laugh when he said “Really pumped for camp and pushing for a spot with NYR opening night”. That was August 12th when it seemed he would have no chance. And now look at him.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Oct 1, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
That’s exactly what I said. He caused a lot of laughs at the time, not many people are laughing at that comment anymore. He could definitely be a solid third pair defenseman.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Whale D will be stacked
Erixon, Parlett, Redden, Kundratek, V Tank and Niemi. Not to mention Bickel when Stasl gets back.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 2, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Will Weise and Mitchell clear waivers?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd be surprised if they don't
Weise is a bottom six forward with some upside, so there is a chance he gets picked up. Mitchell? I’d be very surprised though he had a good camp.
by graves9 on Oct 1, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could be wrong but I don’t think Weise needs to clear waivers, as he has a two-way contract
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Oct 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You sir....are WRONG
Checkout Torts press conference commments today about potentially losing Weise to waivers.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why does the NHL have it set up like this? I can understand if you want to send a guy down mid-season maybe then he has to clear waivers, but this season hasn’t even started yet and we could lose a guy just because he played some NHL preseason games.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Oct 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
otherwise teams could stockpile guys
Plus it would limit players earnings by keeping them in NHL.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How would it enable teams to stockpile guys? These guys being put on waivers are already under contract so having them open to being picked up allows the other 29 teams to stockpile with your players. Not trying to argue this rule just seems stupid to me.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Oct 1, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
50 contract limit.
Also, two-way != doesn’t have to clear waivers. ELC guys are exempt, and once you reach a certain age (24ish) you become waiver eligible, I think.
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by red army line on Oct 1, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The concept of waiver for veterans is as follows
Promotes parity so bad teams gets first dibs on better players not good enough to make other teams and it prevents guys from being “trapped” in AHL. For example, if weise wasnt waiver eligible he would be forced to play in AHL for 60k and not have chance to go elsewhere and make 8x that in NHL for another team.
I think they should allow teams a limited number of exemptions, but would need to incorporate in new CBA.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really surprised
I expect Bell to get the call over Bickel if one of the two is going to get playing time. Erixon, Hagelin could use some seasoning in the minors.
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Torts says Avery/EC fighting for one spot
Also said Staal flew to Buffalo and got cortisone shot in neck.
Anybody think thats good news?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 10:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
and that spot is...
healthy scratch most nights
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Would a player prefer to be an NHLer in the role of Healthy Scratch, or to play consistently in the AHL? And…would there be an issue with either of the gents clearing waivers?
Maybe someone that's looking for a center picks up EC
nobodt will pick Avery up on waivers.
by graves9 on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
depends on contract
If you have two way deal the NHL minimum is 8x the standard AHL 60,000 salary. I’d take the money and put my competitiveness in my back pocket.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as for staal
at least he is flying…with real bad concussions, flying is not a good thing. i don’t know if the shot itself is good news, but don’t they have cortisone shot administrators in nyc? very weird…
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think cortisone would be used to treat concussions either. I think maybe they’ve moved from the concussion diagnosis to something else.
Just speculation on my part
by teknics on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
interesting D battle
between del zotto, bickel, and bell for the last two spots. curious to see how it shakes out.
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Del Zotto … maybe for now … just don’t see him playing long term for torts. Torts players are mentally tough … this kid, while still very young doesn’t appear to be in that mold.
you never know when someone can change their mentality about the game, especially when he’s so young.
by CrazyRangerFan on Oct 1, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
quick thoughts
the rangers are probably going to stick with del zotto, at least for a bit, but on a short lease. erixon is looming in hartford.
bell probably becomes the 7th dman as a journeyman
bickel is younger, so is the staal replacement, and then goes to hartford to play everynight
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Not surprised, Bourque and Hagelin had little to no shot at making the team once Zuccarello started impressing. As for Erixon, This is good for him he is going to take the McDonagh path to the NHL and he’s going to be better for it, too bad we didn’t do this with Del Zotto 2 years ago….
We couldn’t have done it with MDZ, it was juniors or the bigs, no inbetween
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Oct 1, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Slight correction
Bourque and Hagelin had little to no shot to make the team before Zucc started impressing. Once Zucc started impressing and there was no rash of forward injuries, the “little or no” went to “no.”
Still, they made good cases for being mid year injury call ups. Especially Bourque. So I doubt they are terribly disappointed.
by LJR on Oct 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one
that is really surprised that Bourque got cut? I thought he outplayed EC AND Avery. Not hard to outplay EC at this point, and while Avery worked very hard, I thought Bourque was the best. Maybe it’s a veteran vs rookie thing? Or maybe Torts would rather Bourque gets 1st line minutes in Hartford rather than 4th line minutes in the show?
In my very humble opinion, I would’ve kept Bourque as a carrot in front of EC and Avery. “Hey guys, this kid is making you guys look terrible. Step your game up.”
nah
bourque needs minutes every night in hartford this year…he’ll be better for it and really ready to compete next year
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Torts was using the young guys to motivate fringe bottom six forwards
MZA and Avery have been two of the better forwards tgis preseason. I’d say mission accomplished.
Bourqe is great back up for Zuccarrello on 3rd line. Leave him down in CT until MZA struggles or gets injured. Would love to see him on 3rd with Boyle / Stepan next year.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Much as I was rooting for Bourque, not surprised at all
He played very well, but didn’t put up many points, and didn’t even play on the PK. The former meant that despite a really good camp, he didn’t force his way into the opening night picture, which is what he needed to do. Especially since by not using him on the PK, which will probably be a key to his value once he is in the NHL, Torts was basically saying he wasn’t planning on keeping him on the opening day roster unless he really put up such spectacular numbers that he just couldn’t send him down.
by LJR on Oct 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rangers sign another DMan (Campoli?) Del Zotto looks like he will never be the Dman they are hoping he will be.
i’m actually okay with who they on the roster…assuming staal only misses a little time.
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hope they don’t.
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by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
while he may be a bit bad in his own end
It’s still too early to say that he’ll never be a type of player we all expected him to be. It’s also too early to start proclaiming him a player reborn. With DZ you take the good with the bad and let him learn through his mistakes
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by Kevin Power on Oct 1, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Avery will become a part time player on this team …. at best. That was evident with the emergence of Prust and the aquistion of Rupp.
yep
if rupp can skate with stepan and hobbit wizard, then avery only plays when he’s needed to agitate…flyers, devils, isles, etc.
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I enjoy watching him play … "when the restraints are off’
by Blue Skys on Oct 1, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I enjoyed watching him play
back when he was good in 2007-2008. It’s not Torts’ fault that Avery scored a pathetic three goals in 77 games and is a putrid defensive player.
Come on
Avery scored a palyrt 3 goals because he had a 2.2% shooting percentage. Many defensive defenseman shoot better than that.
by LJR on Oct 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. It was an anomaly, rather than a standard.
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He had a 2.2 shooting percentage because he consistently takes bad shots.
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by The Blue Seats on Oct 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Than how come over his career his shooting % and goals have been much higher?
Unless of course you believe that his mental capacity has shifted so much in one year that he had forgotten how to score goals
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It seemed like he forgot how to score goals last year. But if you want an actual explanation, rather than just write it off as an “anomaly”…
His shooting percentage (as well as almost all of his other stats) decreased steadily from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season.
Year Sh. %
07-08 12.0
08-09 10.0
09-10 7.9
10-11 2.2
It seems as though the game, and more importantly the team, changed over this time period and Avery stayed the same.
Defense is a lot tighter than it used to be limiting him to one of his two plays: Taking a weak shot or skating it into the corner with speed and throwing it in the slot.
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by The Blue Seats on Oct 1, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes there is a steady decrease, but the drop-off to 2.2 percent is definitely an anomaly. Even with a 7.9% shooting percentage, he would have scored almost 4 times as many goals.
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by Moshe52792 on Oct 1, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t have data to compare it to, but Avery definitely took a lot of non-scoring chance shots this year, easily one of the worst forwards by percentage in that category.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 1, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
With his classic rough-angle-foot-from-top-of-circle-wrister-to-goalies-chest shot.
by teknics on Oct 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there really a non scoring chance shot on goal…. Some are lower chance of success but non-scoring chance shot is a ridiculous term.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not that there’s no chance to score, it’s that it’s not from the scoring chance area George uses to track “high quality” chances.
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by red army line on Oct 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If you look at Avery’s offense in terms of chances and shots in relation to his career average, last years 3 goals were an anomaly. He’s much more likely to have 10 this year. You also ignore all his assists and provide no basis for saying his own zone play is putrid.
I agree he’s not part of the future and will not be every day player but your not being fair on his production.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
According to who? I would say that Avery back checks damn hard. I would say he’s great in the corners, and knows how to pass very well.
With a normal shooting percentage, his #’s would be effective, even without counting for his ability to draw penalties.
So who’s right?
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by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Aves is an average player with slightly better than average skating ability. He played 4 minutes a game last season when he was not paired with Gabby. He had 21 assists as well. Skillwise, I think he has more skill than most of the Rangers bottom 6 players. As for the argument that Avery is a poor defensive player, last season he was a -4, you have to go back to when he was with LA to get another minus season. Rupp has pretty much been a minus in every NHL season he has played except in 2010 when he was a +5. Prust is a career +4 to Avery’s +14……pointswise even if you doubled Prust’s career of 5yrs to Avery’s 10, its no contest there either. Argue that Prust is younger…….thats pretty much it. I’m not saying Rupp and Prust should not be here…..I am just defending that Avery belongs as well and his numbers support that.
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Avery did not play four minutes a night last year
Prust wasn’t much of a player and until the second half of the ‘09-10 season.. Since then he’s been unquestionably the better player.
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same here, he can definitely be effective, but torts won’t let him…changes his game entirely. if there’s a team looking for an agitator, sather should trade him for a draft pick or prospect
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
Who would trade a prospect for a 31 year old with eroding skills?
not to mention how hated he is. but but he'd scored 40 goals if not for Torts
Your way off base.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If a team feels that they need his skill-set, they will.
Regardless, no one is saying he’d score 40 goals. So by putting that line in there you are just trying to make the opposing argument seem extreme, rather than have a thoughtful discussion.
Its childish.
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Not sure many teams would be willing to take his cap hit
and Tom Renney is really the only coach he’s ever gotten along with. I’m not sure a coach would wanna see him brought in.
Cap hit is a barrier for sure, but after this year his contract runs out. If he’s not on the Rangers, I’d be willing to bet he finds a spot on an NHL team.
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If I recall right if we were to trade Avery the team would assume 100% of his 4mill+ contract which is still kind of overpaying for him even if he replicates his best season of 39 pts.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Oct 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct.
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i think everyone can agree that
avery is a good hockey player who had a bad year last year. The biggest knock on him is how he is treated by the refs and that everyone is gunning for him and he is more than willing to reciprocate
assuming staal will miss a few games:
wolski-richards-gabby
dubi-anisimov-cally
boyle-step-zucc
prust-rupp-fedotenko
mcD-girardi
sauer-Bell
Eminger-DZ
That top nine is solid, all have 20+ goal potential.
Worried about penalties. Its been a steady parade to the box this preseason. Need to clean that up.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Swap Boyle and Wolski. If anything, Boyle has earned that top spot with his defensive skills during the preseason. And as offensive-minded as Richards and Gaborik will be, adding Boyle’s D will create mire offensive chances in transition. The same of Dubinsky on the second line…which is why I think AA-Cally is the duo to watch; and when Wolski and EC are dealt/released, the player who replaces (Weise) will be used for exactly that purpose.
Sather and Torts are getting on the same page, regarding the needs of this team; and, you’re starting to see the plan coming into focus.
Nice work by the whole organization.
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by Danz10 on Oct 1, 2011 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would at least see what Wolski brings this season. The guy has an enormous amount of talent. Hopefully he will surprise everyone this season and bring some consistency to his game. That is his only problem, consistency. I think he will have that season.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Boyle, but he does not pass. Therefore, he has no business on this first line. He’s in the right spot with Step and Zuccs. I think Wolski with Step and Zuccs leaves Step without physical support and that’s what the third line needs to do. If anything, put Fed on the first line, Wolski next to Boyle and Step and have Zucc skate with Prust and Rupp.
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His job wouldn't be to pass
it would be to stand in front of the net and deflect the puck in the net and create havoc like Knuble does.
Regardless, if you are going to play with guys like Richards and Gaborik, you need to be able to keep up and pass.
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I don't see Knuble having an issue of slowing down Backstrom or Ovie
or Holmstrom slowing down Zetterburg and Datsyuk.
Knuble and Holmstrom are on a different level than Boyle.
Boyle has had one good season, a season in which he barely made the team.
I love him as a player and I hope he continues with his success, but he is no Knuble or Holmstrom. Not even close.
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Knuble was a third or 4th liner until he was given a chance to play with Thornton in the '02-03 season
since then he’s been a really good power forward. Why can’t Boyle take the same career path?
Agreed. Especially after the work he has been doing to improve his game in all areas. He looked real good so far in preseason. I think he is going to prove last season was no fluke. If I was him, I would plant myself in front of the net, or high slot and say,“Move me, I dare ya.”
Wolski has the talent to be on the first line. You will see, it will work.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know...
like I said, I’m not dissing Boyle. It’s just that he hasn’t been the stand in the crease guy. In fact, Avery seems better at doing that than Boyle from what I’ve noticed. Boyle works best on the hard checking line that can bulldoze into the zone, work the boards and scrap it out to the middle with possession while being a scoring threat. I lost track of the times Boyle didn’t see open guys in George’s “zone” waiting for a dish.
Gabby and Richards need speed, strength and puck mobility. If the second line weren’t so perfect as is, they could use a Dubi or Cally or Stepan. But we can’t spare them. So I think it will come back to Feds. Wolski can skate and pass but I’m worried that after a quarter season that threesome will be worn down and picked on by goons.
Everyone seems to be in love with Boyle in front of the net because of his size. However, he hasn’t shown the ability to be effective in that spot, and until he does its just a hope.
I am confused with your second paragraph however. You mention our second line, but than place Step there instead of AA.
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Not saying he can’t be, just that its WAAAAY to early to compare them.
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Adding another defenseman..
Figuring Staal is unlikely to play until Islanders game at the earliest and probably the home opener, I think you go with the Bell 6th Bickel 7th combo for ten games, hoping the offense and Hank pick up the slack.
However, I anticipate the Staal situation lingering and Erixon needing at least two months in CT and the line up above getting exposed. I fully expect Sather to make a move to get someone better than Eminger via trade or waiver wire.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
a lot of people have boyle prust and feds split up… i don’t think thats going to happen… Rupp is really not a defensive player…
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by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d take that fourth line of some teams second line.
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
by SimpleManiac on Oct 1, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Your both wrong...
Because Boyle is not a defensive forward anymore on this team. He wasnt last year based on how Torts used him. The trade off of any perceived weakness of Rupp in 4th line versus Boyles continued offensive development is a no brainer.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wasn't a defensive forward?
yeah, he was, just chipped in offensively too…boyle killed penalties and his line with the wolfpack line got the matchups against other teams top lines. the same should happen this year, where you have two defensive lines that can score too…
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
has the ability
but he will be asked to create offense for us this year—we can still use him on the penalty kill if we want to
I will be utterly shocked if Rupp is trusted to play in a defensive role.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 2, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Boyles line later in season and playoffs was put out for offense regardless of opponent. Expect it to ontinue.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
which is why the line should stay together…
by brodeur hearts avery on Oct 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No..its a case for getting him on ice with better players more frequently. Which is why he will be in the wing with stepan and zuccarrello at some point soon.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think with the rupp signing
brass were really banking on boyle taking a huge step forward offensively this season
Its a good point. With the top 9 being set at (perhaps) Richie, Gabby, Wolski, Pack Line, Stepan, MZA, and Boyle, Rupp is a good addition for the 4th line.
Of course, thats only if Boyle is actually moved up.
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to me
it makes the most sense. If they were planning on using boyle in the same role, the rupp signing seems pointless
Thats my opinion as well. If Boyle is staying on the 4th line, we would have been better off signing a somewhat skilled 3rd line guy, or bringing a kid up rather than forcing Rupp in there.
This is my favorite lineup:
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Boyle/Wolski Stepan MZA
Fedotenko Rupp Prust
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Deal Christensen for D?
Forgive me in advance if this has been discussed already, as I haven’t been on the Banter much lately… I don’t know about you guys but I don’t feel particularly confident having Stu Bickel and/or Brendan Bell on the 3rd pairing and I’m still uneasy about this whole Staal situation. I know a few people have mentioned the possibility of acquiring an established defenseman to shore up the blueline. Although he obviously wouldn’t net a huge return, any possibility we can dump Erik Christensen on someone in an attempt to land a d-man? (Does he have ANY value at this point??) It’s apparent that Avery and EC are fighting for their roster lives, one of them has to go, and we all know Sean is untradeable. Forget the free agent market – it’s pretty much dried up. I don’t see anyone that’s any better than Bell or Bickel on that short list.
why pay anything for EC when you can get him via waivers for nothing.
Unless a good team at back end of waiver priority wants him bad, Rangers lose him for nothing.
I see a scenario where he goes to Islanders and scores game winner in OT shoot out winner to beat Rangers and this board lights up with “why did we let him go” and “EC is so talented”.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
meaning...
if EC were to be odd man out and sent to Connecticut, he’d have to clear waivers first? Maybe I don’t fully understand the situation…
Yes. EC/Avery/Weise all need to go thru waivers if sent to AHL.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Useless, unless it is a shootout.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny that its Avery vs EC given their history.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Wojtek Wolski ($3.800m) / Brad Richards ($6.666m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Michael Rupp ($1.500m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m)
DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Mike Sauer ($1.250m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Steve Eminger ($0.800m)
Stu Bickel ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)
BUYOUTS: Chris Drury ($3.716m)
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $527,000
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,535,334; BONUSES: $1,487,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $764,666
I would replace Stu with Bell, but Bell doesn’t exist according to capgeek :) Regardless, here’s the opening day roster.
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wow...
I know anything can happen during the season in terms of production, but it is nice to see the salaries lining up with what the players are capable of. (i.e. no 7 mil 4th line centers and such)
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Right?
Our line-up actually makes sense. Three elite guys making 6.5-7.5 mil. 6 core guys (well, idk about Wolski) making between 3.3-4.5 mil. And the rest of the roster made up of solid vets or young kids making between 800k-2mil.
Looks good to me.
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Why so much surprise on Erixon.....
Nothing changed with Erixon since my comments in the TC wrapup.
I really laugh out loud at some of the bloggers who are ‘shocked’ that he was sent to CT.
It is absolutely the right move for him…and if he ends up like McDonagh (and I think he will), then people should be grateful they didn’t screw up like they did 2 yrs ago with DelZotto.
Agreed 100%. On here there seems to be unconditional love for some guys who have never even played an NHL game. Yes, one day, and hopefully one day soon he will be special, but we need to be patient with these guys and bring them along at a steady pace. Especially with defensemen.
db you rarely get on here. I miss ya.
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Thanks.
Been busy w/work and just got back from 2 weeks vacation…which was mostly a ‘no tech’ break. I also try to stay away from the off-season discussions which tend to be ‘wishful thinking’ not necessariy based on any facts – where I have nothing to add
I’ll be around more with the season starting up…
by dbmaven on Oct 1, 2011 5:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds good to me. Where was the vacation?
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Right there with you
Given how well it turned out for McD doing half a season in HFD along with the re-signing of Eminger I thought the idea that a roster spot being Erixon’s to lose was a bit premature.
Add in his age and his adjustment for the smaller ice and it was going to be an uphil battle for him to make the team. His hockey IQ looks strong and he has a smooth looking game but he’s not quite ready for primetime.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 1, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
we didn’t watch erixon much until traverse city—all indications were that he was totally ready to step in. He did nothing to disprove that in traverse city—preseason is where he truly struggled.—i’ve alwasy thought a year in connecticut would serve all parties best.
Bingo.
15-20 games, or even 40 can only help Erixon. The AHL is a great league, especially for defensemen from another country where the ice surface is bigger. It is a shame there is a negative connotation when it comes to the AHL and European players.
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by The Blue Seats on Oct 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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Mitchell and Newbury are confirmed on waivers.
Interesting to note that Weise, as far as I know, has not been placed on waivers. He needs to clear waivers this year, but he hasn’t been officially waived.
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Trade for a draft pick looming?
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Podsibly. Torts likes Weise and basicslly said today he’s going to play in NHL this year. Just a matter of what team he is on.
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More likely to see Weise packaged for a vet defenseman if there’s a trade.
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Or a pick that you package with EC for a slightly better dman.
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That too.
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EC would lower Weise’s trade value
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I think AZRangerFan said it best,“So EC’s pretty much useless.”
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
separate trades
Weise to team A for a sixth and then the Rangers trade their 5th and EC to team B for a solid 3rd pair dman making under 2 million in contact year.
Or they could gave just kept Gilroy (joke).
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This has all been very predictable, except I suppose Mr. Stu Bickel.
The forwards turned out how we imagined. Avery will be the healthy scratch in case any of our guys need a rest, Christensen may or may not be with the team but he wont play much, and on defense our starting six is what many of us expected. (The hype for Erixon has been absurd). The only question is that 7th dman, especially with Staal being a ?.
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Bickel has played well so far. So has Bell. Bickel definitely earned points the other night.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
MDZ flashed offense and occassional turnover potential. Erixon was exposed more and more with each additional game. Give him 2-3 months and he’ll be up and in the line up every night.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed Gabby
Erixon will be good. He simply isn’t ready for the pace of the NHL. Some time in the minors can only help.
I have been reading all the quotes from M. Staal, and from what he is saying, it does not sound promising. Why not just sit him out for several weeks until the medical staff or Dr.‘s can get a better handle on what is causing the HA’s. Like it sounds now, a pinched nerve in the neck could do it.
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I'm setting the over/under (before/after) for Staals return at Oct 27 - home
Opener.
What are your thoughts?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Home opener? Sounds about right.
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by The Blue Seats on Oct 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say not a game sooner.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
UNDER
Based on what information that nobody else has are you making this diagnosis???
by dbmaven on Oct 1, 2011 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Listen son...
When you grow up and wear big boy pants you will learn that what you read and hear are at best half truths. Seeing thru that noise and having the ability to analyze and form your own opinion is called critical thinking.
In this instance we know Staal has a mystery ailment associated with a hit seven months ago. He’s still not able to go full speed with contact. Now he’s getting cortisone shots in the neck.
If you think he’s going to play anytime soon i fear for your safety in the real world and please…don’t send money to any Nigerian princes who send you emails.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait, so questioning one opinion and replacing it with your own opinion is critical thinking? I like how facts played no role in your definition.
by NTB on Oct 1, 2011 6:39 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Facts versus spin of Rangers brass who kept this quiet for a while. Think about it.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ROFLMAO
When you get to be my age you can start calling people “son”. Hell – if you’re even within 15 years of my age I’ll cut you a break.
Until then – it’s useful to back up your statement(s) with whatever form of “thinking” produced them – allowing others to follow your thought process.
Given that you’ve provided some of that thought process in your condescending diatribe – I’ll still take the under – since it’s been widely reported that the docs found some pinched/constricted nerves in the neck area that seem to be constricting blood flow – thus the cortisone shots to see if the swelling can be reduced.
I don’t know if I’m laughing with you or at you…but I’m definitely laughing.
Jokes aside, there are two indisputable facts here 1) he’s hurting from a hit he took 7 months ago and 2) he can’t practice full speed with contact.
I’m sure its the pinched nerve and the shot will clear it up.
Baaaaaaaah… sheep.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yay for condescension being a proving point of your “critical thinking”
You sir have won the innerwebs.
by teknics on Oct 1, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Furthermore, when a player uses the words,“…unless something dramatically improves” to describe whether he will join the team and play in the next few games should be a clue. Players don’t often talk about their situation like that. Using the words,“dramatically improves” to describe his situation implies something is dramatically wrong. I hope I am dramatically incorrect.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 2, 2011 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions
reasonable expectations ...
I fully expect this season to be an opportunity to mature a team for NEXT years window. We have a glut of potential defenseman, now appropriately maturing in the system, with a couple of stop gaps holding down the club. I fully expect some mid-season ups and downs for McI, Erixon, and some bench time for Bell, Bickel, MDZ and Emminger. From a long term perspective, a couple of them will most likely be trade bait. I would have said the same for Girardi if Staal was fully healthy and there was more “I played too well for the coach to send me down” from these prospects. Same goes with forwards … Avery and christensen are not part of the long term solution. Remember Chistensen was picked up from waivers when no one else wanted him, and he hasn’t exactly played at a level to change that perception. Avery is still being paid half his salary by Dallas – no one will want to pay him his full contract. So we either keep them or cut them – there is no feasible trade involving these two. Hopefully they will both ride some pine and give space for forward temporary call-ups as well.
I look at this season to evaluate where the team is maturing toward, figure out the holes to fill to make us a contender, mature some prospects, make some trades and set ourselves up for a cup run next season. That’s my expectation – if we play and achieve more, great, but I’m keeping my expectations realistic.
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Let me summarize..
With Staal this is a top 4 team in the East. Without him 5-7.
Only trades this year eill be for stop gap D to cover Staal and possibly scoring veteran forward down stretch if it is reasonably priced puts us over the top and keeps foward flexibility.
Next season subtract Zucc/Avery/Feds/Eminger and possibly Wolski for UFA left wing/Kreider/Bourqe and Hagelin.
Future is bright.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It is my understanding that if Avery is put on waivers and anotherteam picks him up, then we would be responsible for half his salary.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, full salary.
Although it’s best to wait for db or George for these types of things.
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I never got a response from either the NHLPA or NHL offices when I inquired on this topic.
It is my belief that the NYR would not be liable for any of his salary….since his original contract is with Dallas, and the NYR and Stars currently split his salary and cap hit.
by dbmaven on Oct 1, 2011 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sounds about right ...
Not being an expert on these “double waiver” claims, but I was under the impression Dallas in only on the hook for 1/2 Avery’s salary as long as the Rangers keep him with the big club. If NY waives him, then whichever team picks him up is responsible for his entire salary. If NY brings him back through the re-entry waiver process, Dallas is again off the hook – either NY pays his full salary upon return, or a claiming team is responsible for his entire salary. Again, I’ve never found a definitive answer on this; it’s just my (potential) BS interpretation.
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by bleed'n blue on Oct 1, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
where's our boy george
to come through this thread and blow up half our arguments with air tight stats
I’m without computer at home so only checking periodically.
There’s really no new arguments here though, aside from the notion that somehow Boyle isn’t needed for D this year, which is pretty entertaining to me.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 1, 2011 7:46 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
i think he will be used on the penalty kill
but will be looked to improve his scoring this year with stepan and zucc. He will be a defensive anchor on that line though
George
You don’t think Boyle will be expected (given more opportunities) to generate offense this year compared to a year ago?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
No, I don’t. I think the heavy offensive situations are going to go mostly to Richards, with Stepan getting the scraps. IIRC, Boyles had heavy defensive zone starts both years, I don’t see that changing.
He might get some PP time to help boost his offense, but at ES I expect him to be the primary defensive center, save for the top competition that the Pack line takes
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by George E. Ays on Oct 1, 2011 9:18 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
If he gets time at wing (which many speculate) it would shift.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see it in late game spots where they’re down a goal, and when inevitable injuries hit. Not to start the year.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 1, 2011 9:38 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
His OZ starts were 39.1% in ’09 and 40% on ’10, but 50% in ’10 playoffs.
Do you know any where to find this by game?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
http://timeonice.com/faceoffs1011.php?gamenumber=20001
You have to change the game number at the end of that URL for each game you’re looking for.
Yes, Boyle was up to 50% in the playoffs, but he was still near the bottom for the team (only Prust was worse)
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by George E. Ays on Oct 1, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
sweet..
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Roster Limit Question
Okay so excuse my ignorance but the active roster is now at 25. The roster limit is 23 yes? So, assuming Stajcer and either Bell or Bickel will be cut, why couldn’t we carry both Avery and Christensen for a while until everything shakes out?
Simple answer is Tortorella doesn’t want to.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 1, 2011 9:15 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
It is 23.
Torts carries 13 forwards 7 d and 2 goalies normally when everyone is healthy. With Staal looking doubtful they will carry 8 d until he returns. Then the 23rd spot becomes about Torts discretion.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right. It is 23.
My interpretation is simply that Torts doesn’t want 14 forwards.
Also, it could be that he wants to carry 8 D until Staal gets better.
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Seems senseless to carry 8 dmen since Staal can be placed on injured reserve for a minimum of 7 days if he’s not ready. He then wouldn’t count towards the 23 man limit.
I thought it was 14 days. Then it is just about Torts not eanting “extra pieces hanging around”.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it’s 7 days. I see no reason for Torts to take that approach. Keenan kept good players on the roster (the “4 Aces”). That seemed to work out pretty well!
I think he hates Avery and EC…. for completely different reasons but wants one of them gone.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 1, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Avery wins that last spot
And when Wolski shows he is just another guy with a lot of talent that never pans out to his full potential, Torts better give Avery a shot of the first line. I am not saying by any strech that Avery is a first line player, but for some reason him and Gaborik have chemistry. Last season the only time Gabby really seemed on was when Avery was feeding him the puck. Give the guy a chance, with his skating, passing and grinding ability to be another feeder for Gabby in the slot. EC belongs no where near the last cut, time and time again this guy has showed he doesn’t have the stomach to be an effective NHLer. He belongs in the AHL or on the Islanders. You put Avery on the wing with Gabby and Richards, and the guy will put up 50 points this year. I am tired of hearing about guys that need to play up to their skill level, EC is a career minor leaguer and Wolski isn’t much better.
I'd much rather give far more talented guys like Boyle and Dubi and even Stepan a shot
over Avery, who scored all of three goals last year and is really of best use as a 4th liner or a extra forward.
Avery and Christensen had similiar seasons last year, but
Christensen is the worst player in the world and Avery is pretty damn good according to you.. They’re both spare parts at this stage. Avery’s just a bit better.
Wolski averages over 40 points a year. Now he has the potential to be a PPG player but he’s never played up to it. That being said while he’s an underachiever he still achieves more than Avery could hope for.
by EricBrat20 on Oct 2, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quote, “EC is a career minor leaguer and Wolski isn’t much better.” LOL. Far from the truth. He may be an underachiever, but he is an achiever. Do not confuse the two.
Besides, Wojtek (The Soldier Bear) had a rough childhood as evidenced," As the bear was less than a year old, he initially had problems swallowing and was fed with condensed milk from an emptied vodka bottle. The bear was fed with fruits, marmalade, honey and syrup, and was often rewarded with beer, which became his favorite drink. He also enjoyed smoking and eating cigarettes.34 He enjoyed wrestling and was taught to salute when greeted. "
Hopefully he has his career year that he is capable of. To confuse him with Eric (Tuckursackback) Christensen is ludicrous.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 2, 2011 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions
This season needs to hurry up and start already, before this blog implodes heh
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Oct 2, 2011 2:52 AM EDT reply actions
It’s quite evident that we’re going to get to the finals in 2013, if not win the Stanley Cup outright.
For some reason this particular bit of news inspired me to say that. We’re so stacked that guys like Borque and Erixon aren’t even the final cuts.
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by old hickory on Oct 2, 2011 3:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This. Rec’d
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by nathansfamous on Oct 2, 2011 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely in need of game thread today.
We are beating these topics to death.
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Sun 05/27 | TBA |
Last 5 Games
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Mon 05/21 | L 1 - 4 |
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Sat 05/19 | W 3 - 0 |
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New Jersey
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Wed 05/16 | L 2 - 3 |
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New Jersey
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Mon 05/14 | W 3 - 0 |
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Washington
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Sat 05/12 | W 2 - 1 |
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