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New York Rangers News: Brendan Bell Recalled From Connecticut

NEWARK, NJ - SEPTEMBER 23: Brendan Bell #39 of the New York Rangers scores the game winning goal at 16:56 of the third period against the New Jersey Devils at the Prudential Center on September 23, 2011 in Newark, New Jersey. The Rangers defeated the Devils 4-3. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

As per the AHL website, the New York Rangers have recalled defenseman Brendan Bell from the Connecticut Whale. With all of the current injuries, it seems as if there is some concern for Michael Sauer. Sauer sat out last night's game on Long Island, in a game where they desperately needed him on the back end.

Michael Sauer has been having shoulder trouble, after taking a vicious hit back in pre-season, by Zac Rinaldo. He played in the two games over in Europe, but it seems as if the injury hasn't healed much since then. Now with Brendan Bell being recalled, it remains unknown who will be sitting out. My guess is Woywitka will be sitting again, as he didn't really impress much in his debut as a Ranger.

It's all just speculation for now, but I guess we'll find out sometime before Tuesday's game against the Vancouver Canucks. We will update when we find out more.

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This makes for some tough choices.

MDZ, Erixon, Woywitka, Eminger, Bell. Choose 4.

And when Sauer gets back, choose 3.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

well you know media darling MDZ won’t come out so I think Eminger takes a seat. Emmy has disappointed me so far. started slow last year as well.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

True. Emi hasn’t been great by any means, but he doesn’t make those glaring mistakes that MDZ does.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hated Emmy the beginning of last year and then he played physically and played well. I was for re-signing him and glad they did. I would think it’s between Emmy and Woy-whatever but I thought Woy-whatever played well last night. Carp said he thought MDZ was good and Emmy and Woy-whatever were horrible. Did anyone besides you and me see those gaffes by MDZ? Anyone? lol.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess not. Most people seem to think he played well.

When it comes down to it, the question I ask is:

Who are you more comfortable with on the ice? Eminger or MDZ?

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

truth be told, MDZ is a train wreck defensively. I don’t care who agrees with that or not. the King saved his ass multiple times last night. Girardi got an interference penalty because he was covering for another MDZ lapse.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that because MDZ is a first round pick and has shown the flashy offense, people believe that we “need” to give him an opportunity. Add to that that Eminger is a journeyman, and it should be an easy choice.

But when you take preconceived notions out of the equation, at this moment in time, Eminger is the better defensemen.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a reason why Eminger is on his 6th or 7th team now.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Oct 16, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great, 6th of 7th team. Regardless, he’s been staying in the NHL. MDZ can’t say the same.

And wasn’t the whole point of this to take out preconceived notions?

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Staying in the NHL as a bargain bin 3rd pairing or 7th defenseman. Obviously he could never crack any real roster spot with a team other than the caps. This is also a guy who was drafted 12th overall in 02’. I liked mingler last year but now he looks like crap. He was supposed to be our injury stop gap. Well he’s failed so far. I would take MDZ over him right now. People may criticize that but I think people are criticizing him too much right now. If we were winning people might not be biching so much.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Oct 16, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously I agree that people are watching him way too closely and scrutinizing every little mistake he makes just because they can’t get over the mistakes he made last year. I’m sure if you were just looking for flaws you could bring up a bunch of things even on some of the best players in the league. Sure what MDZ does at times may not look pretty but he gets the job done more often than I would’ve expected coming into this year with the awful mistakes he was making last year.

by EricBrat20 on Oct 16, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't compare

MDZ was twenty years old last year and needed more development. Eminger is barely and I mean barely hanging on to his career.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well MDZ needs to get playing time somewhere. So, you can send him down, or give him 3rd line D time.

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by Brandon C. on Oct 16, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but everyone complains about the team not winning now. Right now, IMO, Eminger is better than MDZ.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said send MDZ to Hartford from the beginning of the season. Let him make his mistakes there, I have no problem with that. He’s got 33 NHL games before he can be claimed if he sent down. why not have him make his early mistakes there and let him earn his way onto the Rangers? trust me, no one is saying Emmy is a star. but he’s better than MDZ on the D side.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

MDZ is awful on the defensive side. you’re good at watching the subtleties of the game. watch him. the only thing is that Emmy is surprisingly bad so far. he should be better.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

there’s a big difference between having a future and being serviceable. I thought Emmy would be serviceable but MDZ has disappointed just as much based on the expectations for him. To me anyway.

by Richter1994 on Oct 17, 2011 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

MDZ got top 4 minutes with our club last night.

And you know what else? He was also a +2 in that game and wasn’t responsible for any goals against.

I didn’t catch most of the first two games, but he was fine last night.

He should be our number 6 defenseman right now. Looking at his minutes last night, you can say he is our number 3-4 (Erixon got 10 more seconds than Del Zotto). He is playing up to his competition and it is laughable to think that he isn’t going to make any mistakes. McDonagh has made mistakes in the past couple games. Staal makes mistakes. The good thing is he didn’t make the same mistakes.

And he did play better defensively than he did last year (given he had no where to go but up…)

And I am NOT a MDZ apologist. I was as disappointed as everyone else last year when he lost his focus. Obviously it was nobody’s fault but his. Moving on from that, he didn’t look out of place yesterday. End of story.

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by The Blue Seats on Oct 16, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t responsible for a goal against?

He was directly responsibly for the penalty Girardi had to take, which let to a PP goal for the Islanders?

how is that not responsible?

You just said you didn’t catch most of the first two games?

Well than.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was arguing with Blue Seats remark that MDZ wasn’t responsbile for any goals against.

Try reading the entire argument, buddy? It would be appreciated.

I never called Eminger, or Woywitka great by any means. It is my opinion that at this point in time Eminger is a better defensemen than MDZ.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

First of all calm down

Second of all I don’t agree that Eminger is better than MDZ or anyone on the backline..

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless, every day on here you make smart-ass comments.

You need to learn that not everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t arguing anything except how he was last game.

And yeah, not responsible for any goals. Made Girardi take a penalty which led to the goal? That was Del Zotto’s fault? Give me a break.

You’re looking for someone to blame. Give it a rest. I’m not even a Del Zotto fan but you seem unreasonably dissatisfied regarding his play last night.

You need to reestablish your expectations.

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by The Blue Seats on Oct 16, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, MDZ went down and flopped himself out of the play. Completely. He did it twice last nice.

Girardi had to take the penalty so it wasn’t an easy goal.

I’m not looking for anyone to blame. I’m purely stating that I believe Eminger is better than MDZ. That’s it.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

MDZ was abominable on two plays: In the first when he flopped down to the ice completely taking himself out of the play when the Isles were on a rush that led to a clear scoring chance that the King saved his bacon and in the 3rd when Reasoner went around him like he was standing still and again the King saved his ass. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE the play that Moshe is talking about where MDZ was out of position and put Girardi in a bad position so he had to take an interference penalty. THAT WAS MDZ’S FAULT. And not to mention the 5 or 6 (at least) 2 zone passes that don’t work. Please, people need to watch the games and actually see what these players are doing before commenting. The guy hasn’t learned a damned thing but please, keep praising him for his “+2” rating on Saturday. And if not for the King he would have been even if not minus. Girardi was -2, should we send him to Hartford? On top of it, our illustrious broadcasters refuse to criticize MDZ in any way inclusive of those obvious gaffes for all to see. Well some of us anyway.

by Richter1994 on Oct 17, 2011 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eminger!!

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

There both terrible. Neither. leaning more towards MDZ at least he shoots recently. Eminger is a terrible hockey player in general. I would of rather of kept Gilroy at least he scored some clutch goals

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by -19-AgainstAll on Oct 16, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

woywitka

i thought he played really well last night. he broke up a shore thing goal on a beautiful play by him and he was defensively sound last night. to be honest the more unnoticable he was the better cuz that means he was in position and played the puck well. making nice passes and using his defensive partner when that up ice pass wasnt there. good for him id like to see him in a few more games to see if he can repeat. very well played. on the other hand eminger looked completely lost. he missed assignment and was to slow to reover from his mistakes which is y the center had to double with eminger for half the game

by rangers4life on Oct 16, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree. Not sure how anyone could single out Woywitka and not mention Eminger is beyond me. Eminger was slow to respond on the Fish’s first goal and failed to use his stick. Had he simply stick checked instead of going down to one knee and thereby blocking Hank’s vision, that goal would have never happened.

by JordyNYR on Oct 16, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch the replay on NHL.com If you want to single out a player fine. It started out as a bad break out that failed to gain the Isles zone. Maybe he should just play invisible?

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry. I didn’t realize anyone here was related to him. Regardless of how the play started out, the Isles gained the Rangers’ zone 3 on 3. It was not an odd man rush. Tavares easily went around Eminger, the puck went past Eminger again after it was swatted away by another Ranger and Moulson was able to get off the shot without any challenge from Eminger. Eminger needed to use his stickand failed to so 2 times. He’s a liability but I guess until Staal or Sauer return, we’re stuck with his mediocre play. I thought Woywitka, by the way, played very well again last night against Vancouver.

by JordyNYR on Oct 19, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If, in fact, Sauer is more injured than originally thought

Then it spells major trouble for the team. Especially if the Rangers continue taking bad penalties.

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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 16, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

wow, that’s not good Joe. we started with a “deep” D corps… not now. wow. very bad news. we’re in trouble now.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

erixon is probably sitting

Wotwitka played solid 3rd pair minutes. We want to reduce penalties erixon has gotten penalties in each game. My guess is they sit the kid and see if bell can handle the spot to send erixon down where he can play top line minutes

by Pballer505 on Oct 16, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why?

Outside of rookie mistake on interference call he played a smart game. Still worried how he holds up against bigger more physical teams.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 16, 2011 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He needs time sheltering 3rd pair is fine if needed for a short stint but I want to see him developed and not thrown into a position that he can’t handle and lose confidence and come up lame like mdz might have (though mdz has not looked aweful)

by Pballer505 on Oct 16, 2011 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agree 100%

But if him struggling on 2nd pair minutes still gives the team better chance of winning versus the three amigos (Eminger/Woywitka/Bell) its really hard to stay the course on protecting him from an MDZ scenario.

The more I watch Erixon it concerns me less. But if Sauer is out long term this becomes a big factor in making a trade for d help.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 17, 2011 5:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

On another note, was just reading the Bees’ team report about Boychuk and they officially announced that Marc Savard is out for the year and probably will never play again. Very, very sad. classy player. what will it take for the league to get serious about protecting their players? those suspensions in preaseason to thugs is nice but I want to see meaningful action during the year when better players commit those acts.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Colin Campbell obviously thought Savard was just being a “little faker” and didn’t want to punish Cooke for Savard’s faking.

by EricBrat20 on Oct 16, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree, Campbell should be ashamed of himself.

by Richter1994 on Oct 16, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid phone..

The penalties are killing offensive flow. These are mostly stupid penalties, not desperate dives after getting beat.

Stop the penalties and the top three lines will settle in. Erixon and MDZ were fine last night. More worried about MDZ decision making than Erixon. Eminger, Woywitka, and Bell..randomly pick two it makes no difference.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 16, 2011 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Power Play

The more time and confidence they get at ES the scoring chances will come. The PK time breaks up lines..thinking about what George posted about ES scoring chances per 60..I would expect that to improve with more stable lines and time together.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 16, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed.

The second and third goals that put us under were scored on the powerplay, one of which was right off a 5-3 and people are already scapegoating MDZ and Torts.

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by The Blue Seats on Oct 16, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only 4 even strength goals have been scored on us in three games. If we stay out of the penalty box, we should be fine. We spent almost a third of the game in the box. Our defense is ok. It is workable. Remember our team defense is a function of the system. The system is greater than the function of it’s parts. We are missing (2) out of our 4 best defensemen. That is a lot harder to overcome than missing two of our best forwards.

 Hockey is a game of strengths and weaknesses. Usually, at least one player has to make a mistake for a goal to be scored. Even the best players make mistakes and cause goals. Shit, I saw Shane Doan beat Weber and Suter down low in the slot to score a goal the other day. Even our best defenseman make mistakes and cause goals. Just don’t understand why people are being so overly critical. The way it sounds, some should just find another team to root for. Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaa
 Saying all this, even if we totally bomb this season(Which I do not believe), we get excellent draft picks in what is supposed to be a strong draft. It would also be a good excuse to bring up some young kids.
Problems, yeah there are some. Our 4th line, our PP, the penalties we take, and the injuries. All fixable with time. We have a great core group of players.Chill out, drink a beer, and stop bitching.

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

What about some positives last night… Stepan, his play with the first line, and him taking the body. We had one penalty kill where we had 3 or 4 shots on net. Boyle beating Streit to the puck in the O zone. AA beating ? to the puck in the o-zone. We stripped the Isles D of the puck several times in the second period, although we did not capitalize on it.

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling Sauer could be out a while

maybe even longer than Staal. I don’t don’t get why Sather didn’t sign Sean O’DDonell in the offseason. He’d be a nice fit here.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

O’Donnell’s yet another 3rd pair guy. He wouldn’t do much to change the situation we’re in right now.

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by George E. Ays on Oct 16, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone wants the kids to play unless it's MDZ

as nobody has patience with him and can’t live with his mistakes and claim the pylon pair of Woywitka and Eminger are better dmen.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

No one is saying don’t have patience. No one is saying that at all.

We have lost the three games, and people are trying to figure out why.

This post is about the Rangers calling up a defensemen while they have 6 healthy ones, and the ensuing argument about who is going to be replaced, especially once Sauer and/or Staal get back.

Many believe at this point Eminger is better than MDZ, just like many believe MDZ is better than Eminger. It’s called an opinion. Try having a discussion about it instead of just trashing everyone else’s opinion.

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

decision is simple for me… MDZ is and Offensive player… Eminger is a mixed bag of shit… you want more offense you go with MDZ as he has an upside on offense, not saying he’s going to score 5 goals but he has the upside, Eminger finds himself out of position more often then MDZ and makes far worse decisions on pinching… Eminger finds himself out of position by trying to make a hit which is far worse than DZ being out of position on a pinch because Eminger tries to make those hits on the transition into our defensive zone…

More people are willing to accept the mistakes by the older more experienced eminger but a single turnover is unacceptable from MDZ…

MDZ took 24 shifts last night for 18 Minutes… +2

Eminger took 19 shifts for 16 Minutes and Change… -1

fact of the matter is MDZ was leaned on more last night and was more successful… I haven’t seen any reason for him to pulled from the lineup, and I’m sure bell was brought up to be an extra with uncertainty of Sauer… Considering we will be Western Canada and not local…

i think our defense has been fine… can’t fault defense for PP goals against… like it was said we’ve given up 4 EVS goals in 3 games…

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by Clalicata17 on Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many people?

I’ve seen you and like one more commenter say that. That is not many people. And I don’t thrash anyone’s opinion you do.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not trashing anyones opinion. I have a long history on this site about having strong discussions. You, on the other hand, have almost been banned numerous times for not knowing how to have a discussion.

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have?

I wasn’t aware of that. Anyway your comment of many people think Eminger is better than MDZ has not proven. I strongly disagree with your earlier comments that dreck like Eminger and Woywitka should play while MDZ should sit or be sent down. No better time to let MDZ sink or swim with two top dmen out.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop

Comparing these two players is down right dumb. Erixon does not belong, we want to slowly bring him up.. eminger, hate it or love it, he’s here when were down Staal and Sauer. Del zotto I thought had a strong game and was decent on the 2nd pp unit late in the game

by nhl_legendz on Oct 16, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Problem is Eminger was gonna be in the line up even if those guys were healthy

I agree Erixon could use some time in the Ahl, but the Rangers have no choice.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d go with the opposite personally.

I’d go with that a better time to let MDZ play his game would be with Staal and Sauer back.

With those guys back MDZ can play 3rd pair 15 minutes a night, and not hurt the team while still being able to improve.

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

using him on the third pair and on the pp is the best use of him, but with two top dmen in there might as well give him top four icetime.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, regardless of our opinions he wont be benched, so it’ll be his time to sink or swim.

And if he shows he can handle top 4 minutes, him being able to play bottom pair and focus on the powerplay should allow us to have a strong defense.

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by Moshe52792 on Oct 16, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I love is that players with talent need time, but players who are supposedly garbage should be able to handle a new team, or new defensive partner every game?

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

newbury

Is the last guy torts should have called up, esp with the problems were having with discipline, bell is more then likely a backup plan if someone flops out there on the western Canada trip.

by nhl_legendz on Oct 16, 2011 5:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Newbury called up last night and Zuccarello sent down.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 16, 2011 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

thought i would readdress

But it really seems like a bad coaching decision to bring up a guy like newbury when were struggling with discipline.

by nhl_legendz on Oct 16, 2011 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Newbury is a guy that fights a lot

more so than a guy that takes dumb penalties.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember preseason. All the hacking and slashing. Lazy skaters don’t belong on the team and we don’t need anymore goonies right now, becuase they take penalties, our biggest problem as of right now.

by nhl_legendz on Oct 16, 2011 7:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Erixon

Taken a penalty in every game so far. (2 x Interference, 1 x DoG).
He seems to step in front of guys without the puck pretty regularly and probably could have been called for two more in the three games.

I wonder if the SEL has a bit more lenience for interference?

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Oct 16, 2011 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

they dont have more lenience

Just more ice and time.. he needs to adjust, and not in the nhl. Any takers as to where players can go to adjust to the nhl?

by nhl_legendz on Oct 16, 2011 7:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

CT Whale...

But not when 2 of the organizations top 4 dmen are out. Learning on the job.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 17, 2011 5:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Woywitka played a helluva lot better than Eminger did. Not sure if we were watching the same game.

by JordyNYR on Oct 16, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought emmy looked worse

Woywitka wasn’t a stand out d man but he isn’t supposed to be, he had a stand out moment tho, which is more than I can say for Emmy.

by nhl_legendz on Oct 16, 2011 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Because we already established in every one of your posts that you don’t like Eminger. Now it is JW, who did not play bad at all. When Bell gets back, I know you already don’t like him. You don’t like WW either. Ok we get it. You praised the hell out of Mark Streit though. Maybe you should go root for the Isles then. Other than one play, Emi and JW looked ok. So if their name is not Staal or Girardi, they suck? They are both 7th D-men, what do you want, Norris trophy winners? Get over it. He is not going anywhere . Now you can bash JW,Bell, and Emi. Closet Isles fan……

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is Streit turns the puck over a lot… he’s another one of those offensive dmen… MDZ follows that mold… Streits bread and butter is on the PP… look at all the ODmen… they all are shaky defensively… but you gotta give some to get some on offense… when you have a top 4 of Staal Girardi, Sauer, McD… you can have a 3rd pair with an offensive guy who gets a chance on the PP… remember DZ is only 20 or 21… Streit didn’t establish himself until he was 28 or 29… Dmen “generally” take a long time to mature in the league… Pronger was god awful when he entered the league… you just have to deal with it…

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by Clalicata17 on Oct 16, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is Streit turns the puck over a lot

Dirty little secret in the NHL. Guys that turn the puck over a lot also have the puck a lot.

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by George E. Ays on Oct 16, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see Boyle beat Streit to the puck, and Boyle was far back? Streit did not look too impressive on that play.
We did strip the Isles defense of the puck several times in their zone, we just did not capitalize on it.
Besides, other than injuries, I think this just makes obvious storyline for 24 /7.

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by nathansfamous on Oct 16, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

One play means jack

He’s a elite pp qb. He would have been a much better signing than your boy Redden.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for attacking me

very classy. You are a shill on the level of a Al Trautwig. I’ve been a Rangers fan for over 20 years and yes the Rangers should have signed Streit over Redden in ‘08. As far as Eminger yes he’s crappy as is Woywitka. I’m willing to give Bell a chance. As far as WW no I’m not a fan, but I’m not close minded and if he plays well here I’ll change my opinion. If I offend you so much then ignore me.

by graves9 on Oct 16, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blah, blah, blah….. truth hurts , huh? BTW, I love Emi.

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by nathansfamous on Oct 17, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isles playing tonight?

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by nathansfamous on Oct 17, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isles playing tonight?

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by nathansfamous on Oct 17, 2011 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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