New York Rangers lose 5-4 in the shootout to the Ottawa Senators After Blowing 3 Goal Lead Late
Ok, I'll get this out of the way now; this game should have been over at 4-1 with the Rangers playing smart, defensive hockey down the stretch to seal the victory.
But that didn't happen. What did happen was another weak effort in the first period that saw the Rangers on accumulate 2 scoring chances the entire period and trail the Senators 1-0. The second period didn't start off well for the Rangers but after Zenon Kenopka's 5 minute major and match penalty for his board on Artem Anisimov, the Rangers woke up on the power play with Ryan Callahan scoring the Rangers first goal on a rebound from a Brad Richards point shot and Brad Richards followed that up with his first goal at MSG after an Ottawa turn over and a great feed from Gaborik in front.
For the first half of the third period the Rangers kept up the pressure and even added two more goals, one from Gaborik off a nice feed from Derek Stepan who found Gaby from behind the net, and Richards second goal of the game that came from a great feed from Gaborik.
After Gaborik's goal, Ottawa scored their second of the game and while the Rangers were still playing pretty well everything changed after Wojtek Wolski decided that it was a good time to elbow Daniel Alfredsson in the defensive zone while Alfredsson didn't have the puck anywhere near him. Spezza scored on the ensuing power play to put the Sens within one and Milan Michalek got a tap in in front while the Rangers stood around Henrik Lundqvist or something
With every Rangers fan in existence on egg shells, the Rangers mercifully got the game to overtime and then to the shootout
In the shootout Eric Christensen did what Eric Christensen does nowadays which is less than nothing (he had 10 shifts the entire game, 6 of which came in the first period his longest shift was 1:26 and it was in the 2nd period) while Milan Michalek pulled a nice move on Henrik Lundqvist and beat him high under the cross bar. The Rangers second shooter Brad Richards missed the net just over the crossbar and hit the glass. Jason Spezza was stopped and the game fell on the stick of Wojtek Wolski and maybe a chance at redemption...he's supposed to be good in the shootout right?
Wrong.
Wolski came out wide, skated in and put a weak attempt on Craig Anderson who knocked it away with ease. Which I found fitting as Wolski really handed this game to Ottawa on a silver platter.
After the jump some thoughts on player performances (Spoiler Alert: Some optimism here), video highlights and my star and goat of the game
So much for the Wojtek Wolski-Eric Christensen-Marian Gaborik line eh?
Gaborik was his usual self as he was flying in this game early and often and it payed off with him getting a goal and an assist tonight though both came without Christensen on the ice. Gaborik and Richards were creating offense tonight, and need to be put back together post haste. There are no excuses for breaking Gaborik and Richards up after this game.
Callahan and Dubinsky are slowly working their way back
Ryan Callahan played his best game of the season hands down tonight, and while there are still some hiccups in his game, he was around the net and pressured the puck both on offense and defense blocking back to back shots a penalty kill in the third period. Brandon Dubinsky looked to me to be looking more like the offensive player he needs to be. Getting chances and setting up the offense off the forecheck, he just needs to start finding the back of the net.
Two penalties are the story of this game
Zenon Kenopka's kinda-sorta boarding call on Artem Anisimov, which was a bad hit in an awkward position, led to the Rangers waking up a bit on offense and got them to their first two goals. Meanwhile Wojtek Wolski's blatant check to the head, as it was called, gave the Senators the game basically as they scored to make it 4-3 and the Rangers could not recover from that.
My player of the game:
Marian Gaborik: Gaby was flying today as he has been all season and he got on the board with a goal and an assist tonight. Marian has been the Rangers best player by far this season and really looks to be back in top form early
My Goat:
Wojtek Wolski: How can I make this any clearer? go back and look at his penalty tonight and that is the moment where the Rangers lost this game
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Wolski came out wide, skated in and put a weak attempt on Craig Anderson who knocked it away with ease.
He what now? He beat Anderson clean and rang it off the post.
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I must have saw wrong…my bad, I was writing this as the shootout was going on
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Maybe you should change your article to reflect what happened on Wolski’s shootout attempt, you might be confusing Wolski w/Christensen, who made a move on his attempt that was more like what you describe….and I also think the penalty on Wolski was a tough call, it was not a deliberate action by Wojtek to knock down Alfredsson, but one of those tall guy/small guy collisions where the shorter player’s head was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It was a penalty—no doubt there, as it was a hit to the head—but it wasn’t carelessness or laziness on Wolski’s part here (for once), just bad timing and bad luck.
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by greifi griffie on Oct 30, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile Wojtek Wolski’s blatant check to the head, as it was called, gave the Senators the game basically as they scored to make it 4-3 and the Rangers could not recover from that.
I’m not defending the penalty, but the Rangers were still up a goal after the PP. Saying that penalty handed them the game is a weak cop out and overlooks a whole lot of suck after that PP.
by NTB on Oct 29, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Have to disagree. I think Wolskis elbow did all the difference. Even though he played a decent game until then, that was a bad move that gave the Sens the opening they needed in the final minutes.
"He went up with his arms and really played it out, and I told him to stand up," - Henrik Lundqvist on Crosby's diving.
by NYR North pole fan base on Oct 29, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It also took out one of their best players. Allfredsson did not return. The entire team is to blame. They completely let up.
Yes, they let up. And don’t get me wrong. I’m not putting the entire loss on W2s shoulders. It’s just the damned situation put the team in a bad spot. Rangers lost momentum, froze, got scared “uh-uh – not again” – call it whatever you want. I’m not even sure the elbow-hit was intentional, but imo it was the turning point of the game. Wojtek Wolski has to take his share of the responsibility for the outcome…
"He went up with his arms and really played it out, and I told him to stand up," - Henrik Lundqvist on Crosby's diving.
by NYR North pole fan base on Oct 29, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He gets a share certainly. He’s not close to the sole reason for the loss.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 29, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, Ok
I get it. The W2 bashing might seem a bit unfair. Decent match – check. Two assits – check. Me – got home from work late. Wife with a headache watching bad homegrown TV-“entertainment”. Suddenly NYR are playing well for more than two shifts – getting on the scoreboard. Yeah!! I like what I see on the S***ty stream. Give me some slack. Hereabout the sun sets at 4 pm at this time of the year. And it gets darker day by day. My mood was on an upward swing. The Rangers were winning. Then there’s the elbow. You know the rest of the story.
I know – it’s a team effort. And there’s a coach in there somewhere. And I’m a grumpy old man that jumps to conclusions. But that penalty…
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by NYR North pole fan base on Oct 29, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
To blame this game on WW penalty is pathetic.
This team was up three goals……an the team and coach decided they did not need to finish the game and lost because the HEAD COACH IS AN IDIOT.
Why sit on a lead?
Why change your style after going up by three goals late in the third?
Why stop hitting and rushing the puck when up by three goals
Why is this idiot still our coach?
This is actually how I saw the season going
When it was announced they’d be without Staal for an indefinite amount of time. I thought the offense would be the strength and the D would struggle. Now while this loss was a collective team failure, it was nice to see the important forwards elevating their offensive game. They played with a lot of jump after the first PPG and there were several shifts from the partial Pack Line that started to resemble the hustle of last year.
They are obviously not playing anywhere near the way they need to be in order to have any sort of sustained success but getting the offense in synch isis the best the team can hope for right now.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions
Marian Gaborik
Gabby had a goal and two assists..!! boy…Read my lips…Best player today……and get rid of Wolski and Cristiansen ,both are waste of time and money.Also start looking for a new coach,,this one is an idiot!!!!!
You really think
The coach told them to play like that iin the last half of the third? It’s the players who are on the ice.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Since we’re not privy to what’s said on the bench or in the lockerroom, I’m still going with blaming the guys that are actually playing the game.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
we are cognizant of a few things
like how torts handles the line changes, benching of players and how he handles certain players in other ways
Line changes seemed to work this game in that they scored 3 or more goals in regulation for just the 2nd time this season and twice on the much maligned PP.
The D pairing of Eminger and Erixon was brutal today but the team is pretty handcuffed with the D right now and you can’t have Girardi and McD on the ice for 28 mins every game.
They “played hard for him” plenty enough last year. You know, the hard working team that everyone loved. I doubt that 9 games into a brand new season they’ve quit on him.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah we'll see
no matter how positive you are, if the rangers continue to play this way, everyone is going to blame someone—when a team regresses, especially after management supplies expensive upgrades, my cross hairs are always on the coach.
It's not being positive per se
But I’m betting that this is a rough patch for a team with a difficult start to the year. Several players are underperforming and if a few of them start to even conform to their career averages production-wise, the team will get better.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
when is ever going to bad coaching
il say over and over again this team will not play for torts. when can we say its bad coaching or do we blame the players all season
Torts is never held accountable.
Seems like the players are fed up with his benching’s and horrible line changes.
Torts sure made a great adjustment when the team went up by there goals….we used to call it the TURTLE MOVE…..
Torts is never held accountable.
Torts is held accountable by the fans as much as anyone
Torts sure made a great adjustment when the team went up by there goals….we used to call it the TURTLE MOVE…..
Just about every team in the league will play “defend lead” in the last 10 minutes of a game when they are winning 4-1
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by The Blue Seats on Oct 30, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Enough is enough of this guy. He needs to go. I dont know who you bring in, but Torts’ time is up.
Gaborik
Nice to see Gaborik playing well. Richards did a good job carrying the puck into the zone and setting people up. Callahan looked like his old self for awhile too.
That said, even though we’re only 9 games in, this loss is troubling. Torts needs to take the blame.
11 of the 15 teams
In the East are at best 1 point above NHL .500
The play has been poor and uninspired but the season is far from decided.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok if you don’t want to fail for nail right now you gotta be joking me. Can’t beliee I listened to this game on my phone because my power was to see them lose like this. Great that the offense clicked finally but can we please play some defense and play with the puck in their zone just a bit more. It’s really frustrating right now with NYR but the sad thing is if they win Monday I’ll be happy about this team again. Also if wolski is suspended please call up hagelin, or even just send christensen down to call up hagelin. This tea
Needs some change NAND any kind of change.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Oct 29, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well ok then:
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Tortorella said Anisimov out of rotation in 3rd because of performance, not injury reasons.
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Well, Wolski certainly played well enough to garner ice time. The other two didn’t see much ice in the 3rd either, so there’s a standard there.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 29, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t WW on this team to score during the shoot out?
Also thought, Christensen was our shoot star.
No one has scored during the shoot out so far.
Rather see Avery stir up some crap than watch these other fourth line morons run around after the puck
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by Stepan the Ice! on Oct 29, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
WW is on the team in part because he’s one of the most successful players in the shootout, yes.
Here’s the breakdown of their career shootout shooting:
EC is 51%
WW is 42%
BR is 41%
Rest of current NHL roster combined 7.3%
Simple fact that sometimes needs explaining – 50% means he misses half the time. This shit will happen, freaking out because they went 0-2 makes zero sense other than to fuel a hatred that doesn’t need fuel.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 29, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wolski is on the team because he has the highest career PPG ratio of anyone not named Richards or Gaborik.
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by The Blue Seats on Oct 30, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he’s 4th highest on the team in points per game, and leads the team in points per minute at even strength.
So I’d say he’s fine so far.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 31, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and why was wojtek put back in after the penalty torts becnch people all season after vtaking bad penalties. And is it me that i cant stand EC or did it look like he dident care about the shootout
All you Fire Torts people crack me up.
If he benches someone, you bitch.
If he plays someone, you bitch.
If he changes the lines, you bitch.
If he doesn’t change the line, you bitch.
Just watch the fn game and stop bitching. If you can do a better job or know someone that can then you can bitch.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Oct 30, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is
And he doesn’t even try to hide it.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gap Control
There has been quite a bit of talk about what ails the Rangers thus far…and while I agree that EC and Wolski deserve to be dumped, and Rupp and Newbury are redundant, so one should, and I’d love to see Zuk and either Borque or Hagelin brought up, personnel are not the reason this team is struggling. Watching these games, particularly 5 on 5 when the Rangers are struggling, their gap control is awful. Offensive rushes are three man rushes with no defenseman joining at all (McDonaugh has been the occasional exception, and he is the only defenseman who has produced results). In our defensive zone, forwards are too high, forcing defensemen to make long passes to break out; they don’t come back down until the other team gains possession, and by then its too late. Until this team starts fixing gap control, they will not create sustained pressure and they will continue to give up their defensive blue line and get hemmed into their own zone.
Definitely agree this is one of their problems.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 29, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This sounds like a strategy…philosophy problem. Players are likely being told to do these things…sounds like a coaching issue to me.
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by Stepan the Ice! on Oct 29, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried to point that out multiple times last season, but didn’t think anyone got it.
It’s more than just gap control offensively, the forward and d spacing is usually too big when the other team breaks out of their zone too. Makes our left winger unless on d if he locks, but the d are too far back to step up and take away the second pass. Either our young d isn’t getting it, our it’s coaching … or I still have no idea what “system” we’re trying to implement.
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by bleed'n blue on Oct 29, 2011 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Look too, Bell made a bad pinch and off he went back to the AHL. He has been patient with MDZ, and played him right away after bad mistakes, which I totally agree with. After watching other teams, be glad we don’t have some of their rookie /soph. offensive defensemen, you guys would blow a gasket.
So, our defense does not pinch in as often as possible. Is it lack of confidence, or afraid to make a mistake. Saga is absolutley right about our forwards, it is too late to come down after we have lost possession of the puck in our zone.
I would have several practices of just passing and shooting, for hours, instead of skating. Instead of bag skating, bag passing/ shooting.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 30, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Who will you blame???
What if Rangers don,t make play-offs?..who will you blame for that ?..A team.or a coach or both???.or will this be another year of developement..? changing lines,adjustments ,possilble trades ..etc etc.. and knowing each other???..and dreaming of’ winning a cup in the far away future?…..
I don't know about you
But I never thought this year’s team was supposed to challenge for the Cup. Especially not after Staal went down. And I tend to believe that last year’s team overachieved quite a bit with a few players having unexpectedly good seasons (Boyle and Stepan up front, McD and Sauer in the back). So I’m not completely surprised to see a team that had to back into the playoffs that basically have offsetting personnel movements of the addition of a top tier center cancelled out by the loss of a top tier defenseman struggle to gain traction so early in the season.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Oct 29, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I am a yes man today… Last year when I criticized Torts, i got jumped on by the “experts” because I failed to see that this was another development year. Not when most of the guys on that team had been to the playoffs before. We are past the development years now. Every team brings in young guys each season, so every year is a development year for most of the teams in the league. Torts has had his chance and now it seems the guys have had enough of him too. Dump him, send EC to the AHL, trade WW for a serviceable veteran defenseman to give Erixon and MDZ (yes, he still looks clueless on the ice) a break, bring back Avery (since he will be an all-star without Torts), and put AA back in between Dubi and Cally (not on the bench u A-hole Torts.) Felt good to vent all of that frustration…bad day in sports- Rangers blow a 4-1 lead and RU blows a 10 pt lead to WVU. If the Jets lose tomorrow, I’m moving to New England…
Del Zotto
How come whenever this kid makes a defensive mistake, everyone is saying how bad a player he is but today he play a heck of a game, strong defensively, very good on the pp, almost 25 min of ice time, yet nobody even mentions his good performance. Give the kid some credit…
Altough he played a good game , I think in a game like today we can see how important Staal is to this team! We really need him back so we can have 3 steady defensive pairs.
Last thing, Get Christensen out of here and call up Hagelin and Zucc
The mistakes are not necessarily his fault....
Look at how many of his turnovers come because he has to find a forward to outlet, but they are all up at the blue line when he is below his own goal line.
I’d rather see Borque than Hagelin…a bit more seasoned, but same speed and some scoring punch.
be honest though
I like the guy and he’s developing, but he’s still out of position quite a bit. Sauer’s sliding save against Tor was a DIRECT result of MDZ turing the puck over. I’m not expecting the second coming of Borque here (no pun intended), but buddy’s got to concentrate on being a solid D man before adding the O … Sure makes it tough when he’s been forced against some top line forwards since Staal’s been out.
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by bleed'n blue on Oct 29, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
easy answer… two years ago wade redden was banished… and this year chris drury was bought out… so MDZ becomes a scapegoat… it’s like a lot of people love to hate him, they call for drafting cam fowler and he’s been atrocious… absolutely awful… back to MDZ he’s played better competition this season so far and has fared very well…
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by Clalicata17 on Oct 30, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Except for a game or two, MDZ has been improving, not regressing. If he was regressing, I would be all for sending him away. Sometimes young offensive defensemen need more time, what can you say? Watching Cam, Buf, Subban, they all have made some really horrible plays that would make you kick the screen. It happens, but he is improving. He needs to play against NHL competition to improve. As I said, it is sink or swim. In my opinion, he is doing more than just treading water.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 30, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Blame has to go to the coaching staff
For failing to address issues like poor gap control, thinking instead the issue is line combinations.
Didnt look like Wolski was really looking at Alfredson
To me it looked like they were both watching the puck and collided, I did not see wolski’s elbow come up at all either it was all shoulder collision with a guy he wasnt looking at. Penalty is a penalty I dont have any complaints about that but MSG and this thread using Wolski as the scape goat is complete BS.
He did get a shitty call but we were up 2 and he had 2 assists on the night, and he just clanged one off the post instead of shooting high like richy or idk wtf EC did. It wont be good if he gets suspended say what you will Wolski is better then having Rupp or Dingleberry trying to make a difference in the game.
EC played like shit Tortollini’s power trip on the fans had to end when he realized that EC truly does suck even though he blows the coach for ice time.
We were shit again its what it comes down to. Cally and Duby looked better, or it might have just been the Ottawa defense being worst. Richards and Gabby looked good together or apart they were playing well I am glad we somewhat have 2 lines that can bring the offense (reducing our defense in the process though). We really need another player who can chip in 40 points a trade has to come to settle these lines and make 4 useful ones we really only need 1 more 40 point player to do that.
Arty has been bad to me. The effort seems to be there, and his defense hasnt been terrible but the guy just does not seem right. I feel he needs to hit more, I counted 4 opportunities for him to complete a solid legal check and he just tried stick checking and skating by the player. He is a big boy I want to see some grit out of him if his hands are not carrying him through which they are not at this point.
Big issue we are still having is our back checking is not putting pressure on the other teams offense. I count 2 periods all season where we had an effective back check that caused turnovers in the neutral zone or give aways to our defensemen. Another big issue is the lack of shots still, fuck the fancy passes get the damn puck on net.
MDZ thank you for shooting atleast someone took the we need to shoot more seriously. give aways suck but the kid has been getting better when staal gets back he will be plenty fine on that third pairing.
Ice surface looked nicer tonight no fucking idea how our brand new arena ,that hasnt had a basketball game on it yet, had terrible ice the first night. Looks terrible for our newly renovated arena to still have shitty ice.
Our PP worked fine either Torts told sully to have a seat and coached it or Sully has started taking ideas from good powerplays.
Final thoughts we still are sucking a fat one, though it is getting more consistent. Shoot more, hit more, jam more. Maybe we should give incentive bonuses for players to shoot in the next round of contracts. We need to be more physical as a whole on the defense as well, to many guys left to stand in front of the net.
Geez, Girardi with 33 + of ice time.
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Looking at this..
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/ES020140.HTM
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by nathansfamous on Oct 29, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
At the end of the day...
there are two missing elements this team needs: a killer instinct and a defensive presence both up front and on the blue line. When you have a team down by three goals, you should be able to hold that lead. Point: give Ottawa credit for not quitting, and, the Rangers let them back in. Teams recognize that they can quickly strike back on the Rangers, and that has to be fixed, immediately.
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by Danz10 on Oct 29, 2011 7:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agree 100% on the lack of a killer instinct. We really need to learn to go for the jugular once we’re up.
by Eastern Impact on Oct 29, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if someone gets called up Mitchell?
I don’t see Zuke getting called up unless Torts can guarantee him top six ice time and that’s unlikely. Woywitka sucks maybe they signed Stralman?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING......
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by -19-AgainstAll on Oct 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
umm... erixon?
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by FIRESATHER327 on Oct 29, 2011 8:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
we need to change our names to FireTorts and FireSather lol
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by Fire Renneyy on Oct 29, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sure you will all disagree, but all said and done, tonight was actually our best game of the season, so far. We played a good 40-50 minutes of the game instead of the usual 20. Of that 40-50 minutes, a good 20-25 minutes of it was actually “Rangers hockey” for the first time this season. Dubi and Cally looked like they are getting their game back. Felt like 6-7 players giving effort instead of 3.
we were not good for 40-50 mins, dont know what game you were watching. we werent good in the 1st, and werent good until the 5 min PP. after that we were good until it all fell apart. it was 25-30 good mins not 40-50
by nyrangerfan521 on Oct 29, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
+1.
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by nathansfamous on Oct 30, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
For all the bitching about Torts line changes it looks like the brief change with Richards might have woken him up a bit. He played his most engaged game of the season so far.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Oct 30, 2011 3:17 AM EDT reply actions
Really?
If were gonna fire somebody, at least make it Sather. Tortorella is doing absolutely nothing wrong. He creates the lines and the PLAYERS go out on the ice and play the game. I say we fire Sather and bring Messier into the GM position.
Fire Torts and Sullivan and
replace them with Ken Hitchcock and Mark Messier.
Hitchcock and Messier could never work together. 2 immovable forces cannot coexist. Sullivan is the bitch in their relationship so it works for them.
by Richter1994 on Oct 30, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell...
I wouldn’t mind Gretzky and Messier at this point.
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