New York Rangers Recap: Rangers Fall 2-1 To Ducks In Shootout
by Bryan Winters on Oct 8, 2011 4:25 PM EDT
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After coming off a disappointing overtime loss against Los Angeles, the Rangers were looking to bounce back with a win. Although, it didn't pan out the way they were hoping for.
This game started off with tons, upon tons of penalties being called. I think we only saw a few minutes of 5-on-5 per period. Andrew Cogliano got the Ducks on the board first with a goal coming about halfway through the first period. The Rangers had a defensive lapse, which left Cogliano wide open for a tap in.
The Rangers came out in the second period, looking a little bit better than they were in the first period. Although, they still were unable to generate anything. Lundqvist was amazing for the Rangers again and made probably, the save of the year, on Bobby Ryan.
The penalties seemed to subside in the third period, and we finally witnessed some 5-on-5 hockey. With under five minutes left, the Rangers looked all but done, until Brad Richards ripped a shot over the shoulder of Hiller. Richards knotted up the game at one, and the Rangers stole a point from the Ducks.
Follow after the jump for more, and individual player analysis.
Nothing came about in overtime, and we headed to a shootout to decide the final point. Erik Christensen, Brad Richards, Mats Zuccarello, and Artem Anisimov were the four Rangers shooters, but were unable to beat Hiller. Both Anisimov and Zuccarello had Hiller beat, but couldn't lift the puck over his leg.
The Rangers came out with a lucky point in this one. They head back to North America tonight, and have two points to their name. No doubt that the European stretch had a factor in the Rangers energy throughout these games. The Rangers will have the rest of the week off, and will face the New York Islanders next Saturday at 7:00.
Now onto the individual player reports.
Marian Gaborik: He had a good game up front, and had a couple of chances. It was a very defensive and sloppy game tonight, and Gaborik couldn't bury one.
Michael Del Zotto: He started out fine, made some great plays. Although, in overtime he probably gave all of New York a heart attack, when he skated back into his own zone. Other than that, it wasn't a terrible performance from him.
Henrik Lundqvist: What else can you say about Hank? He played absolutely insane for the Rangers today, and basically stole a point in this game. Without Hank in these last two games, we would easily be coming back empty handed.
Brad Richards: Again, like Gaborik, he wasn't able to generate much offense. The Ducks gave him no room, but he wound up tying the game, which was very clutch.
Dan Girardi: The only thing he didn't do the Rangers today was score a goal. Other than that, he was blocking shots, making great defensive plays, and was easily the best defenseman out there for the Rangers.
The Rangers come out of Europe with two points. While it's always nice to win, coming home with something, is much better than nothing. The Rangers will have a week off, until they face the Islanders next Saturday. Have a good one, everyone.
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Sheldon Brookbank and Nate Guenin were two of the Ducks six dmen in the line up
and their defense got torn up yesterday and it was their weakness last year
and yet the Rangers couldn’t get a forecheck going at all. That is pretty pathetic. The Rangers PP looked as bad as ever tonight. Rangers very fortunate to get a point tonight thanks mostly to Hank. McDonagh and Girardi were excellent again tonight. Boyle’s gotten off to a slow start and Rupp can’t move at all. EC was awful. How bout shooting Erik? The Ducks shut down the Richards line until the last two minutes when Richards scored. Rangers getting a week off is a good thing as the team is dog tired obviously.
Penalties
For me, the biggest issue the first two games has been the never ending parade to the penalty box. The Rangers haven’t been able to roll their lines out the way they need to in order to have a forecheck. It takes three or four consecutive good, hard-working shifts to develop a good forecheck and the stop-start nature of special teams play has been getting in the way of that.
The Rangers have to cut out the penalties or this is what we are going to see all season.
I think the cause of the penalties is because we’re being outplayed. We’ve gotta come up with a plan to compete, and execute it.
Ummm .. Anaheim had more penalties than the Rangers. I was speaking more to the constant interruptions disrupting the Rangers ability to build momentum.
Both teams were sluggish, I wouldn’t say either outplayed the other. Just a boring, choppy game lacking any flow.
It doesn’t make the ones we’re taking any better. The Rangers need to have a plan that ALLOWS them to build momentum. We haven’t seen that yet.
by BuckarooClub on Oct 8, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank the lord this is their last game in Sweden on that horrific ice surface. I hate knowing that the Rangers will have to do this for the next two years. Starting off in Europe that is.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Oct 8, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
every Ranger fan will hate the Mike Rupp signing by December. I hated it on July 1. What a useless log that guy. ill take avery over him any day of the week.
Richards made some nice passes today before his goal. Gabby was pretty invisible all game. This team really needs somebody to play LW on that line so Dubi can go back with AA and Cally. Wolski wont be the answer.
Rupp really got handled by Parros. Parros is an animal though. I give Dubi a ton of credit for stepping up and taking care of business with Cory Perry though. Perry is a tough customer.
Rupp brings absolutely nothing to the table and i hate when the Rangers bring in ex-devils or guys that have always beat the Rangers throughout their careers
by nyrangerfan521 on Oct 8, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we need to give more than two games to make these judgements
but he has been invisible the past two games
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ive been anti-rupp since july 1 and the first 2 games just showed just how useless hell be all season. its not like hes young and has a high ceiling but hasnt showed it yet. we basically know what were gonna get from him
by nyrangerfan521 on Oct 8, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 i agree wolski is definitely not the answer. i don’t care how many clutch goals he got last year I’m sick of taking chances on these inconsistant guys that seem to get worse when they reach ny. torts is a tough great coach I’m sure but he’s not a miracle worker. we can’t just assume a talented player who is wildly inconsistant is going to be put on track when brought to ny. yes i approve the trade for him from rosival but we need a consistant guy up front.
Callahan has been rediculous these last two games. he wears that c very well. there is not a moment he is not out there getting rocked for this team. i hope at this rate he makes it to the playoffs because i can’t see a guy who works this hard in the beginning not out with some sort of injury later. lets just hope its not a chara hit….again
mdz….idk why they want him on this team so bad. is there like a secret fan base telling this organization “please you HAVE to keep him as a ranger!” because don’t get me wrong he’s a good kid but he’s 21 now. its time for him to grow up n play NHL hockey not neighborhood street hockey. i would rather have those other two dudes we sent to the ahl.
rupp is terrible. everyone bitched about mccabes legs when honestly i would of rather of slapped McCabe on offense. i bet he would be better then this goon. at least mccabe had a rocket.
Richards…as long as he keeps getting assists n goals no matter how terrible the game is i couldn’t care that means the guy is worth the money.
gabby is still not hitting the back of the net often enough yet but he looks like he put on some muscle and i thought today that he was gonna have a break away at one point. he definitely feels better and i have high hopes for him this year. he’s probably not going to be as good as season 1 here but he will definitely be better then season 2. he kind of reminds me of a weaker ovechkin the way he thinks about going around players when he sees a large number of bodies in front of the net.
this team was obviously exhausted. these European trips suck in my opinion and should never happen again. made zucc look better then he really is. all in all i have a good feeling this team is gonna be great this year. just gotta give em time to shake the European drugs and skank off. there gonna destroy the islanders for sure!
LETS GO RANGERS!
by -19-AgainstAll on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
easy on the bold statements. its early wait till mid season.
by tl656 on Oct 9, 2011 8:23 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Gabby not hitting the back of the next often enough?
He’s on a 41 goal pace…that’s not good enough for you? Are you kidding me?
Shouldn't have Perry been tossed?
His jersey clearly wasn’t tied down. He should have been tossed from the game…what gives?
It might have to do with It being a roughing penalty instead of a fight.
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
by SimpleManiac on Oct 10, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
While I agree that travel fatigue played a part, the other three teams in Europe all managed to rise above it with better efforts. We are the only team to leave there without a win.
I understand that’s only two games, but it’s a been a disheartening and disappointing start to the season. Frankly, for a lot of the two games, the Rangers looked mediocre at best, at times, downright inept and awful.
Frankly I’m glad they lost because they should sneak away from such a bad performance with a win.
The only positive (other than a few cases of individual stellar play, esp Hank) is that the team knows now that they have a tremendous amount of work to do and Tortorella will make sure they are held accountable.
I fully expect them to rip the Islanders to shreds next Saturday night. Anything less is unacceptable.
"To everybody else we're underdogs, but we go in thinking we can handle any team in the NHL."
Brandon Prust, #8, New York Rangers
The three other teams were in Europe for half the time the Rangers were?
They played a total of three games apiece. We played a total of six.
I think the fatigue factor is more lopsided than you think.
by MyNameIsJohnnyMotto on Oct 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
in fact, Los Angeles, Anaheim and Buffalo didnt get to Europe until this past Tuesday.
The Rangers had already been there a week at that point, and played 4 games in 5 nights in 4 different countries.
You can tell they were gassed and disinterested. Thank god theyre on their way back right now.
by MyNameIsJohnnyMotto on Oct 8, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
And we’re missing our star defenseman.
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 8, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah – EC – you are worthless. And you look like you couldn’t care less.
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yah i agree he plays no defense and glides the entire time on the ice i was surprised he made the team since he has no good skill set
Wait . . .
. . . his wrist shot does produce an amazing goal once every fifteen or twenty games. So don’t go sayin’ he has no good skill set.
T
Seriously, it’s like he’s the 13th forward on an NHL team! Oh, wait … he is.
by BuckarooClub on Oct 8, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
penalties
the rangers are taking to many bullshit penalties instead of skating hard for the puck they take penalties and they even got away with some. the two ducks players should have gottin a penalty because there jerseys werent tied down but that wasnt called. is that not a penalty anymore
we only got like 15 shots on him and not many decent scoring chances. there are games where the rangers play will but just cant slip one by a hot goalie. today wasnt one of those games
by nyrangerfan521 on Oct 8, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i was just sayin'
it wasn’t based on today—i think he is the most talented goalie in the league—one he gets some seasoning he will be great
The trap really ruins the flow of the game. It makes the awesome and badass sport of hockey look choppy and dull. Idk if I would be able to root for a team who waters down our great sport. The ducks are now on my teams to root against list.
Great game by hank. Any average goalie would’ve had a crooked number of goals allowed in that one.
How sweet would it have been if Zucc buried that one? man, so close.
Clutch goal by Richards even though it was kind of a broken play with the dubi turnover. Made up for Richards and co. not doing much else offensively.
Terrible PP. MDZ and Richards look awkward together and seem like a great recipe to let in a ton of shorthanded goals this year if they stay on the 1st PP unit.
MDZ (known as the next Brian Leetch by many on this site) has the decision making of a first year squirt. WTF was he doing skating backwards with Perry and Getzlaf in the zone still?!
I have gotten comments removed by the writers of this site for (rightfully?) criticizing the sub par play MDZ. I want to clarify I am a fan of his (as I am of any ranger) and hope he pans out, becoming a reliable two way player. However, it completely defeats the purpose of a blog to delete comments simply because they don’t go along with the unrealistic optimism sprouting from the writers of this site. I guess now I am aware that the editors base their power structure off of 1984 communist Russia.
MDZ
We’ve gotta decide what we want to do with him. Do we want to let him try to be a game changer, and take our lumps along the way, or do we want him to play a super safe game, knowing that it’s better safe then sorry. Ideally, the coach sits down with him and lays some ground rules – take some chances early, if you’re on, we’ll roll, if not, settle in and play d-first. When we’re up or down by a bunch, cut the chains again, and let him see what he can and can’t do.
by BuckarooClub on Oct 8, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
We talked about how good he was last night
but Ryan McDonagh stepped up big again today. The pass he made to Brad Richards was brilliant, and his play in his own end has been fantastic as well. Great to see him play well today.
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I think we're going to start seeing
just how good Girardi is while Staal isn’t here.
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not gonna blame the Rangers’ struggles on bad ice, as Duguay did. (BTW, when will the dude realize it’s not the 1980’s anymore?)
I’m not gonna blame the Rangers’ struggles on the officiating. It was too tight on both teams. Although someone did say the league is telling referees to call it close, esp. anything near the other guy’s head. Which I suppose is a good thing. Yet, do we want to see six or eight penalties a period? And such start-and-stop play? We may never get to hear Joe Mich say, “Sam, this game has pace!”
I’m not gonna blame the Rangers’ struggles on the Grand Tour of Europe they took.
Rather, I would say they were unprepared to face the Ducks, who gave a team D look they didn’t give last year. And I would say the NYR looked a little overconfident. Never, ever underrespect the other team. Boyle? Christensen? Del Zotto? Dubinsky? Anisimov? Rupp? Gaborik? They all looked overconfident. Lost races to the puck, lost one-on-one battles, didn’t finish their checks. In the shootout, The Great Zucchini thought he had the game won and didn’t finish his play. Hiller is too good, too flexible to assume anything. Overconfidence and laziness are bedfellows.
I support all these NYR guys — they comprise a bright future, short term and long — but I’m thinkin’ what kinda tough love Torts is gonna give ’em on the long plane ride home.
T
How can anyone blame the ice? Both teams are playing on the same ice surface. Also, in both games, the Rangers played their best in the 3rd period, when it would likely be at it’s worst.
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by NYRangerFan718 on Oct 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially when the garden is notorious for shitty ice.
by GAThingy on Oct 9, 2011 1:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s almost impossible to keep up at this pace the whole year but Richards was 9 for 11 in Game 1 and 10 for 13 in Game 2 on faceoffs. 19 for 24 (79%) combined between the 2 games. Including 7 for 7 in the D Zone. Last year the Rangers were 25th in the league @ 47.7%. A HUGE problem last year. With Richards being the #1 Center, we could see a huge improvement. Also, the players who struggle on faceoffs will get a chance to play @ wing.
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Excellent Point
I saw BR’s FO numbers yesterday and was impressed. Today’s numbers are just as impressive. Thanks, 718!
T
Thats the first thing I noticed from the first game.
Faceoffs are huge for a team that lives and dies with their puck possession and it goes a long way in the standings.
by MyNameIsJohnnyMotto on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
Girardi is getting 1997 Chris Chelios ice time.
Over 30 min against tough opponent. I think he’ll sleep okay tonight.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Interestingly, Pronger is the last D-man to average 30+ min/game (1998-2000) for St. Louis.
Girardi is going to collapse mid-way through the season if something doesn’t change.
by NTB on Oct 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The Power Play
More than once on today’s PP, MDZ tried for a home run pass from blue line to blue line. Each time it almost clicked. But it never did. And each time the puck bounced off the end boards to a defender, who cleared the length of the ice.
Our PP needs to set up in the O zone, right? Esp. with MR’s passing proficiency. MDZ needs to lead a teammate 15 or 20 feet ahead of him and not 30 or 35 feet ahead of him. To listen to him in interview, we could think he gets that now. Maybe not.
In his behalf, I do think he’s a different player than last year. 21 is, after all, a lot more mature than 20.
T
The power play has been a disaster
It’s a good thing the Rangers have a week to work on it.
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't they have all offseason to work on it?
it sucked last year and the year before too
just saying
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 8, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
PP is a BIG problem
But we haven’t seen any drastic changes to it, over the YEARS it’s been a problem. Why?
by BuckarooClub on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
its so perplexing that no matter the personnel, up to this point the powerplay has been atrocious for as long as I can remember. hopefully with more chemistry this year Richards can help make it work, but so far its been brutal and the second PP unit has looked better.
by CrazyRangerFan on Oct 9, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Torts/Sully have to step up with the PP
Or, we have to bring an assistant/associate coach who will. Something tells me that a coach who can set up a good PP might also have some ideas to improve the rest of our tepid offense.
by BuckarooClub on Oct 9, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
is it just me or
did it seem like the noise and energy level in the rink was incredibly low? I couldn’t hear Friday’s game (was streaming it on my laptop during a meeting w/o sound) but was it just as dull in the rink? I get that most of the “fans” aren’t picking one team or the other and are basically just hanging out there, but it was pretty weak for a hockey game.
Did anyone else feel like it looked like a scrimmage? Wonder if that had anything to do with the energy level you know?
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absolutely
Look at game thread…was like a preseason game or an Atlanta Thrashers regular season home game.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 5:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think that's an excuse
Fatigue might be an excuse, but either way, the Rangers need to come out flying against the Islanders, plain and simple.
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Long Year
Horrible game again from this team.
No shots = no scoring chances.
We were out played in every zone.
When do we start blaming coach?
Hold on let me do some quick math here
Season started Thursday
Rangers played one game Friday
And then one Saturday
So…carry the one…
The Rangers have played a total of….TWO games
Relax
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Are you telling me that two FULL games doesn’t give us enough proof to conclude that our season and, by extension, entire lives, are over?
Blasphemy!
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by Scratch and Snif on Oct 9, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I assume you are ready to fire girardi as well as the yanks fizzle in the playofs again.
by GAThingy on Oct 9, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ozzie Guillen would be the greatest thing to happen to NY sports ever!
by BuckarooClub on Oct 10, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
This team misses .....
Sean Avery!!!! He brings grit and some skill on the lower lines and Erik Christensensen sucks…. So much for Christensens shootout prowess… Anyone think we will see Aves up on the big club at some point this season?
In 94 I thought i could die in peace... Now I watch a ranger game and just want to die.
by RangerFan5 on Oct 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
In two games where the wrong sneeze drew a penalty, Avery was not something missing from this team.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 8, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You get the point......
Christensensen sucks LoL!!!! Auto type on phone. Avery should be on this team and Christensen should be in the minors or in another teams press box. His salary is the only thing holding him from being on another team. He can thank Brett Hull for his pay day but it will ultimately ruin his playing time elsewhere unless he hits re-entry.
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by RangerFan5 on Oct 8, 2011 7:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hope so
We need to right this ship before we dig ourselves a huge hole.
by nhl_legendz on Oct 8, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's too early to be talking like that
after two games for the Rangers Penguins and Flyers, all three teams have two points.
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right sir
my bad, I misread the results
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by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
…oh wait, you were serious weren’t you? Oh in that case then no, this team does not miss Sean Avery
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by Kevin Power on Oct 9, 2011 10:13 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
yes…we do
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SEASON OVER!!
Since everyone knows how your team plays in the first 2 games determines the rest of the season (especially if they start in Europe travelling the continent), I think we need to address some key questions now:
1. Who can we trade Richards and/or Gaborik to?
2. Who are the top draft picks?
3. Who are the prize free agents?
4. Who should the next coach be?
same old shit
same as last year to many players playing with no heart except for a few and we all know who they are .pp has not changed it sucks other players are not able to step up.cant blame the ice or travel cause other teams did it too. im starting to belive it might be time for a coaching change i know its early but if things do not change il give it 15 games something has to be done.
by nytrueblue on Oct 8, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fatigue is bs
The Ducks got beat down in another country last night only to come out and fap off on us. If it wasnt for Hank and a stellar effort from our top D line we would have been blown out. The ducks should have looked like shit tonight, as we did playing the last 2 games against European teams when we played after we got off the plane. They didnt because they are a better team right now.
All three of the other teams in Europe can all be considered some of the elite teams in the league who I expect to be top 4 in the east and west. We are not a top 4 team without Staal on the top defensive line, and with MDZ just playing mediocre on the PP.
Brad looks good, Gaborik looks like a better player then he ever was, I see him hitting people with a little grit in his play. I just hope his added muscle means he is less glass like.
Mike Rupp… I hope things get better I dont want to see EC playing more games then we absolutely need him to. Otherwise that signing is equivalent to shitting the bed. He was never a good fighter he only plays good against the Rangers, not really sure what he was signed to be we dont need another enforcer we have guys on every line that take the body and are more skilled then he is.
Callahan has been the man should have given him the C a long time ago if we knew he would play even harder then he already did, lets just hope the team gets the message.
Dubinsky way to drop Perry, absolutely a stellar fight, but I want more out of Duby then just hitting and fighting he needs to be more assertive when he was infront of the net and make some room for his linemates with his new strength.
Stepan needs more skilled players to be with his game relies on players that can give and go as they move up the ice, I love Boyle and Prust but they are not the skilled guys that Stepan needs around him.
Penalty kills we are taking stupid penalties I hope torts pulls some souls out for these dumb ass penalties.
Power Play, looked good first night not as much tonight, Ducks were more aggressive but we cant keep passing it to guys that are covered they have to move their feet more.
Neutral zone, we looked atrocious, clogging up the neutral zone, and having a strong backcheck, was something that we relied on last year, we cannot go back to running through the zone and letting the other teams go through it with no pressure. We need to clog the Neutral zone up make body contact and frustrate other teams with physical in your face play that wont allow them to make cross ice passes flying full speed into our zone.
Hank played great what noise was in the stadium was Rangers based,these last two games were like home games, more so for us then LA and the Ducks.
The Ducks
Didn’t play as many games in as short a period of time as the Rangers did, the Rangers traveled almost twice as much as the three other teams did in Europe, there was definitely fatigue in those legs
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
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whale score 37 seconds into opener
Newbury from Kundratek.
EVIL Cam Talbot in net.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 7:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Avery not in line up.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Whispers are that he might not report at all
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"We can trade Lisin for a gun, then hold it to Drury’s head and make him waive the no-movement clause" - XLII
"Tortorelli sounds like a kind of pasta… an unforgiving, stubborn, chewy, flavorless pasta that demands ‘jam’ from other pastas." - Dig Deep
by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that. Rangers can suspend him (I’d guess).
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
His contract is just voided
Blueshirt Banter: Covering the New York Rangers the only NHL team with three home arenas.
"We can trade Lisin for a gun, then hold it to Drury’s head and make him waive the no-movement clause" - XLII
"Tortorelli sounds like a kind of pasta… an unforgiving, stubborn, chewy, flavorless pasta that demands ‘jam’ from other pastas." - Dig Deep
by Joe Fortunato on Oct 8, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
you sir...are correct
Failure to report, Rangers can terminate contract with no penalty.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m sure he wouldn’t mind. He can just take up a job on vogue or as Hank’s stylist or some shit like that.
Take it to the net and keep jamming and jamming until somebody comes on you.
- Eddie Olczyk
by Scratch and Snif on Oct 8, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ironic how Avery would make fun of Clarkson and call him minor leaguer
And now he’s the one riding the bus.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Newbury again. This time from Nightdale. 2-1 whale.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 7:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
END OF 1ST PERIOD WHALE LEAD 2-1
2 goals 4 SOG for Newbury. Hagelin +2 and 1 SOG. Bourqe +1 and 1 SOG.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 7:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hat trick for newbury whale up 3-1
Redden and mitchell get helpers.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 8:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hard to decide who I want to lose. I want each goalie to give up 5 , but there are like 6-7 players i hope don’t score. So conflicted.
Going picture in picture with Fishstix in a few minutes.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
blackouts
Hope everyone enjoyed the games. I, unfortunately was blacked out. I was born in NyC and live near Albany, 2 1/2 hours away. Somehow the nhl thinks I should watch the Sabres who are six hours away. I pay for msg and versus but they don’t care, just block me out. I have had it I will be boycotting a few games myself. An the nhl wonders why their ratings are so low. I am fed up with hockey. Took my grandson to the Devils/Rangers in Albany. He loved it. I was going to go to River Rats/Whale but now we are going skiing-no blackout. I called nhl headquarters but they have not returned the call. Doubt they ever will. No more hockey for me.
Your 290 miles from buffalo and 150 from NYC. I would imagine Buffalo gets regional broadcast in most of upstate (probably 60-90 radius from nyc).
You have two options. Buy the center ice package or shop your cable provider to see if another carries NY stations. The center ice package is great..doesnt cost much more than a day of lift tickets/lunch/gas.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 8:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Center Ice Package still has blackouts
The 1st game wasn’t on center ice, or VS, and it will happen more during the season. If a game is scheduled for VS/NHL Network, and the Sabres are playing, they pull it from Center Ice, and black it out on NHL/VS
by BuckarooClub on Oct 8, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
thats not standard for all cable privuders
I lived in philly region with comcast and had center ice. I never had to miss a Ranger game. Philly games always blacked out in center ice but if philly was on versus and rangers played same time/date. Philly gets shown on vs and Rangers are on center ice.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 9, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Directv and Center Ice/NHL are pathetic
I have Directv and the sports and Center Ice package and still, both games were blacked out.
Also, both Islander and Devils games were blacked out on HD,
Who wants to watch a game in Standard Def?
NHL has done this in the past……horrible way to treat fans.
Center ice package, as noted in their advertising, is for fans living OUTSIDE their fav teams local market. I live in ATL, only games I had to watch on other than MSG were ATL game, when I had to watch there broadcast. Not an issue now!
by GAThingy on Oct 9, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Montoya gets start for Islanders
Interesting..
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Oct 8, 2011 8:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
well its extremely early but..........
MDZ is hot garbage, dude sucks for real, what a bust he turned out to be
they had all offseason to work on this power play and its the same, it still sucks, it sucked the last few years and I thought this power play would be so much better
I guess it takes time but they really need to step that up, our power play has sucked for a long time
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 8, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
So after not watching the first two games and just by going on the comments in the recap
Its safe to say
"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
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This season blows
Shame I really thought this was our year
by Guess Who's Back? on Oct 8, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
The Rangers have had zero chemistry in the first two games.
The lower 2 lines are pretty much terrible right now.
Stepan and Boyle have been largely invisible, unless Boyle is taking yet another penalty.
The Rangers need to stop playing in Europe for awhile.
Thanks.
Twitter - @peterman7
Since when is chemistry instantaneous?
Hyperbolic
Stepan is playing on the 3rd line with pretty unskilled wingers
Agreed there. No need to pull a NY Redbulls : win an overseas tournament against a top 15 team in the world but play like crap domestically
Take it to the net and keep jamming and jamming until somebody comes on you.
- Eddie Olczyk
by Scratch and Snif on Oct 9, 2011 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not down on the team at all.
It’s hard for a team to find chemistry out of the gate, but teams do it.
It would be nice to find some damned finish on this team.
Richards scored a goal because no one else can finish, and he was brought in to set up plays.
I am just not convinced that Gaborik is going to get it done.
Twitter - @peterman7
its been two games
"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Follow me @8kpower
I don’t know how you assess this team after 2 games and after the trip they have to taken to get to this point. We won’t know until into November to get an initial read on things.
exactly…everyone needs to calm the hell down and relax
"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Follow me @8kpower
Stop your biatching. Take this all as a positive. How, you might ask? Well, not matter how bad we played, we still took two points away. We probably should have even won tonight in the shootout. We could have, nothing stopping us there. This is the bottom, we have nowhere to go but up. I am always a glass is half full type of guy(And I usually don’t specifically bash any player). We only played two games. When we are half way through the season and still play bad, I will concede. Give it some time. Just think, if we eeked out two points playing like this, how are we going to look when we play well?
Some points I want to say without rehashing all the other ones 500 times…
With the PP, I think it looked the best when we kept two defenseman and three forwards. Having all 5 forwards on the ice just did not work well.
What is with these pansy, lobbing shots? How many shots were EASILY blocked by Anaheim today, just because their player was standing there? Put some bitch slap in the shots from the point. If they want to blockl them, make them think twice. The soft wristers three feet off the ice are for nothing.
Our D- line will get better, give them a few more games. We played some elite talent, and still forced OT both games.Lucky or not? Yes, I consider hank part of the D.
Hank, what do you say? Did you notice, during the shootouts, the players already looked resigned that they were not going to score on him?
If the Captain keeps up this pace, he will be gone before 20 games are over . Nothing like leading by example though, unfortunately nobody is following yet.
Several times we did beat them to the puck on the forecheck, but we did nothing worth it. It looked like only one player was FC and the other two said F it.
Hockey related : Buffalo is going to be a beast.
In short, only two games have been played. Just give it some time. Torts will workk this out, and I definitely see him bringing up some talent from the Whale soon.
PRUSTOSTERONE!!!
I am gonna F-n kill Giroux!
And yes, I just got in from a party.
PRUSTOSTERONE!!!
I am gonna F-n kill Giroux!
by nathansfamous on Oct 9, 2011 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Uf we look like that vs the fishsticks THEN worry. Hank got beat in the SO only on a fluke. The ship will be rightened. I dont think Torts is just gonna let this slip by.
R.I.P Derek
Rangers FTW!
by BleedsRangerBlue on Oct 9, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I swear, when the camera showed the faces of Perry, Getz, and Ryan, they looked beat before they even started. Going against the King must suck.
PRUSTOSTERONE!!!
I am gonna F-n kill Giroux!
by nathansfamous on Oct 9, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
msg sucks
well msg did it again if they are the only ones to broadcast they wont let center ice have it in hd.they did that 2 years ago.so when i watch rangers devil or islanders or other teams being aired only by msg i have to watch it none hd .i just gotta hope the other team airs it also to be able to watch it hd .thanks msg for being sucha fucking scumbag
even with staal out and richards in im still worried about the offense alot more then the d. maybe its torts style he wants them to play.
by tl656 on Oct 9, 2011 8:29 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
0-0-82 is not the worst of the day. Have to think we would break 4 records most games without a win, most games lost, most overtime games played, longest point streak, and still might be in the running for the last playoff spot
We would also finish higher then the devils and the islanders in the standings with that record
by Pballer505 on Oct 9, 2011 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lmao
"It's far from done, but we did get something accomplished."
by -19-AgainstAll on Oct 9, 2011 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in the east
82 points might get us the 9th or 10th seed…not bad
"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Follow me @8kpower
by Kevin Power on Oct 9, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Try and think positive. Negative thinking gets people no where :)
"It's far from done, but we did get something accomplished."-#19 B.Richards
by -19-AgainstAll on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
So
according to the posts here (most of em, anyways) we should be 82-0 this season, and every player should have 500g, 900a?
R.I.P Derek
Rangers FTW!
by BleedsRangerBlue on Oct 9, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
yes…otherwise its a complete failure and the team needs to be blown up
"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Follow me @8kpower
Ok just checking. Was worried there for a moment
R.I.P Derek
Rangers FTW!
by BleedsRangerBlue on Oct 9, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey , we can still be 80-0-2.
PRUSTOSTERONE!!!
I am gonna F-n kill Giroux!
by nathansfamous on Oct 9, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
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