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Ryan McDonagh's Breakthrough: Blueshirt Banter Talks To Jim Schoenfeld

NEW YORK, NY - NOVEMBER 06: Tanner Glass #15 of the Winnipeg Jets is hit in the crease by Ryan McDonagh #27 of the New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden on November 6, 2011 in New York City. The Rangers defeated the Jets 3-0. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

There have been many bright spots for the New York Rangers over the past two years. Players like Artem Anisimov, Derek Stepan and the growth of players like Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky as well. 

Another young player who started his career in the Rangers' system is Ryan McDonagh, a defenseman who was drafted by the Montreal Canadiens in the first round and was acquired by Glen Sather in the Scott Gomez trade. McDonagh started the season in Hartford last year, before getting called up to the Rangers and never looking back. 

Now McDonagh is a staple on the Rangers' blue line, and due to the Marc Staal injury, currently playing first-pairing minutes with Dan Giardi. It's not just the fans McDonagh is impressing with his play. 

"He's a player that started the year in Hartford last year and I think the coaching staff down there, Ken Gernander, J.J. Daigneault and Pat Boller, did a really good job in getting him ready," Jim Schoenfeld, assistant general manager and assistant coach of the New York Rangers said. "He was only there for a few months and I would be able to watch him frequently and he was just finding his way."

The move to the NHL is a difficult one, no matter what position you play. But Schoenfeld says McDonagh showed the qualities of a great defenseman even when he was in Hartford.  

"It's a big jump from any program to the NHL," he said. "Ryan just needed to get acclimated. You could see [right away] his power, strength, skating ability and his one-on-one capabilities. He didn't lose many battles down there and once we called him up, bit by bit he started to feel more comfortable and then he started adding a little aggression to his game. He spent less time in skirmishes because of his explosive power. He's also an intelligent player, obviously, because you can't match up against other team's top players without having a great understanding of how to play the game."

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"[McDonagh] and Michael Sauer, we didn't know if either player was going to be on the team last year and they moved right into our top-four and really logged some important minutes for us," Schoenfeld said. 

Now, more than ever, McDonagh's emergence as a quality top-pairing defenseman is paying off tenfold. With Staal out for the first 16 games of the season, and still no timetable on his return, the Rangers found someone to take his place in Girardi, and someone to fill the No. 2 defensive spot with McDonagh. 

But even though the loss of Staal hurts, Schoenfeld says the team refuses to use it as an excuse. 

"As much as we miss Marc and would love to see him in the lineup, we can't spend time talking about players who aren't available to us," he said. "We would certianly love to get him back. And as soon as he can come back he will come back and play at the top of his game. But in the meantime we'll talk about the guys who are managing things up top."  

Those other players who are seeing significant minutes due to the Staal injury are Steve Eminger and Jeff Woywitka. Both players Schoenfeld praises for their ability to step up and fill a defensive role when the Rangers needed them to. 

"Even though they aren't playing top-four minutes for us they are part of the six and they've done a real good job on the blue line for us," he said. "So it's been a concerted team effort, it really has."

But in the end, it's a lot easier when you have a player capable of playing first-pairing minutes. 

"But McDonagh has emerged and he's very comfortable, I think he relishes the role," Schoenfeld said. "I think he loves being a matchup guy and he's also scored a couple of big goals for us."

The Rangers are hoping there's more of both in the future.  

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It's been said before but

how pissed must Montreal fans be? Get Gomez, give up McD and cap space (with which we signed Gaborik).
McD is the real deal. His smarts and skating ability are going to keep him at the top for a long time. He’s now part of the core of this team.

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by Broheem NJ on Nov 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Essentially, sather traded gomez for mcd and gaborik.

Quite a lopsided trade. Not to mention the other fill in piece in valentenko.

by GAThingy on Nov 17, 2011 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget other pieces that got moved around...

Higgins got moved with Kotalik for Prust (and a Sex Panther rental which I don’t even acknowledge). Valentenko may or may not pan out, but he WILL be an NHL D-man, perhaps not here, but we’ll at least get a pick for him if he does get moved.

by Kritikal on Nov 17, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

right

if Montreal had the cap space, you know they’d be in on the Gaborik sweepstakes

@btown46

by Town on Nov 17, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well they did, until they brought in Gomez.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

…and Valentenko

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by earthworm on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not saying that Jeff Woywitka is our savior but he has come in and filled a void and played respectable hockey for a third pair guy. Nobody thought he was a good pick up. but he’s worked out well so far.

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by earthworm on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed Eminger and Woywitka are holding their own back there.

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 17, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I still can’t figure out Montreal’s rationale of trading away McDonagh and Pavel Valentenko for Scott Gomez….is there any logic behind it that I’m not seeing?

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by Kevin Power on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly, if you look at what we did with the cap space from that trade(Gaborik) and what we got, McDonagh. That has to be one of the more lopsided trades post lockout.

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 17, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Thank you for the laugh, dude!

by icespree on Nov 18, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's true though

At least to some extent. When McD was drafted he was thought to have the tools to become an excellent offensive defenseman. But his offensive numbers in college were not that impressive, and didn’t improve much. His defense and leadership, and even puck movement, were fine, but as his offensive game had not progressed anywhere near what had been expected, he was deemed to be expendable.

Last season, we didn’t see much offense from McD either, although this season we are starting to see those skills blossom. Hopefully that will blossom, and then we will have two top-tier left defensemen once Staal returns, plus MDZ if he keeps playing well.

by LJR on Nov 18, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The biggest reason why they felt they could let McD go was the play of PK Subban.
I think he surprised them and was ready sooner than they thought he would be – which made McD – not expendable – but available.

In retrospect they probably don’t make that trade. But boy are we ever glad they did…..

by dbmaven on Nov 18, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Good writeup Joe

Next time you get the opportunity to talk to Jim – it would be great to get his perspective on the rest of the defensemen in CT and in the system and how they’ve fared so far this season – Erixon, Valentenko, Parlett, Klassen – and what they’re hearing about Pashnin.

I keep telling people that, presuming Staal comes back 100% by next season, with the current group and adding guys like Erixon, McIlrath – the NYR will have hands-down the best defense in the NHL. Imagine:
Staal – Girardi
McDonagh – Sauer
McIlrath – Erixon – Valentenko – Woywitka etc……

OMG

by dbmaven on Nov 17, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

No MDZ?

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Not deliberately – pure oversight on my part.

Double OMG !

Why didn't we draft fowler??

by dbmaven on Nov 17, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Db are you still on the I hate Michael Del Turnover bandwagon? If so why? nothing personal Im just curious.

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 17, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve never been in the “hater” club.

Moshe, and others, can probably attest to the fact that I was STRONGLY against MDZ staying with the NYR 2 years ago. I felt that they should have sent him back to London after 9 games to get another year of OHL seasoning (not unlike what they did with Marc Staal at the same age) – on a team where he would have been a leader. It was a mistake to keep him – and as the year wore on, and then last year – it became obvious.

I panned his quite obvious defensive gaffes – because defensively he sucked. Not a little – a whole lot.

This year, he’s showing that he’s learned – he’s paying attention to defense first. Yes, he’s still young and he’s still going to f-up, but I don’t have a problem with that as long as there are signs of improvement. And there have been. So all we hope is that it continues.

And since it might not be obvious – that’s the ‘sarcasm font’ on the Fowler comment. I’m sick of hearing the whining (Y’all want some cheese with that?) about him and what a huge error it was not to draft him. Bullshit. It would have been a mistake – because in Tortorella’s system it would have been MDZ II – The Sequel – just a year later.

I laughed MAO with the “Del xxxxxx” lines – some real classics there.

by dbmaven on Nov 17, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah totally agreed, in hindsight it wasn’t a good move to keep him 2 years ago. But right now he is improving which is good. And last year I remember hearing you or somebody else(almost positive it was you) on Banter radio busting out like 5 or 6 of those Del xxxx whatever lines lol. And yeah the Fowler crap is annoying, the kid can’t play defense for his life idk why everybody was flipping a shit cause we didn’t draft him.

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 18, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

The “Del Turnover” stuff was, if I remember correctly, started by Mandar. A bunch of us jumped on the bandwagon – not because we hate him – but because it was “can you top this” kind of fun…..

And really – if you think about it – at one point last year he was Del Turnover…. ;-)

by dbmaven on Nov 18, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahh yeah your right it was Mandar lol

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

RAWR!!!

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Sauer gets overshadowed by McD. Sure McD deserves every bit of the praise he gets, but Sauer is the very definition of rock solid back there. You could pair him with EC and he’d still managed to be a plus player.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Nov 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed. I’ve seen him save MDZs ass more than a few times already.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget that Sauer’s been mentoring MDZ on both sides of the puck. MDZ looks a lot better because of it (even sees PK time), and appears to make more timely pinches (Sauer’s most impeccable attribute) instead of doing it and praying that his D partner can save his ass if it results in an odd-man rush the other way.

by Kritikal on Nov 17, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Did not know this. Wow. That’s good to know. And it says a lot about Sauer’s character that he would assist someone who once was or could in the future become a rival for a roster spot.

by icespree on Nov 18, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yes sauer's contributions are understated

but McDonagh is just so much more dynamic and skilled than Sauer. Sauer will prob never be an all-star, McDonagh will be several times

@btown46

by Town on Nov 17, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s going to be very interesting in few years. Who do you guys forsee being the odd man out?? We could potentially have 7 guys (staal, McD, Girardi, MDZ, Sauer, Erixon, Mclwrath) that should all be in the top 6. I had originally thought it might be Girardi that gets shuffled out in the next few years, but he he has been jsut incredible the past couple season making me think he will be the exact type of leader this young d could feed off going forward. As much as I love Sauer, I fear that it might end up being him. Either way, whoever gets shuffled out would make an excellent trade chip to bolster up other parts of the roster.

What I like the most is the mix of two way, stay at home, and offensive dmen we can roll out. You could realistically see 3 top notch d pairings that can play with anyone in the league.

by Peter North Stars on Nov 17, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

It’s a good problem to have.

We could always package a guy like Sauer with one or two of our forward prospects for a great player.

Imagine what you could get for something like Sauer, Miller, and Dubinsky?

Or something like that.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This will end up a discussion in the summer for sure, but I"m in agreement with you. When you look at the presumed roles, the one obvious overlap is with Sauer and McIlrath, and thus Sauer would be the one in trouble.

Before this year I said Girardi without question, simply because his role doesn’t match his production (he doesn’t drive play against 1st line forwards, yet still matches up against them.). That’s still true to a degree, but I’m warming to the idea that he’s just too valuable in his own zone, thus you can live with it when you have McD or Staal as a partner that can drive the play.

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by George E. Ays on Nov 17, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

George,

Do you think in the future all three pairs will essentially be playing 20 minutes a night, or do you think torts will still ride his top pair for 27-30 minutes a night? If so, does it make sense to keep all these guys if one or two will be playing 12-15 a ngiht or are they more valuable as trade chips? I think a guy like Sauer would fit in extremely well in a 3rd pair role, if that role is 12-15 a night.

by Peter North Stars on Nov 17, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re not going to see 30 min a night if he trusts the guys on the bottom pair. In the event everything comes to fruition, you’ll see a more balanced split. It won’t necessarily be 20-20-20 because that depends on special teams, but I think you could see a situation where even strength time is better balanced.

Thus something like the current 27-20-13 (20-16-12 at ES) gets replaced by something closer to what Vancouver currently employs 24-20-16 (18-16-14 at ES).

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by George E. Ays on Nov 17, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Which would be great towards the end of the season. No one would be gassed.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 17, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking, If McIlrath comes to fruition as a solid shut down guy with a mean streak, Sauer is exactly who’s going to be the odd man out. And I would have no problem with it, Sauer is older and McIlrath is younger simple as that moving forward assuming that McIlrath can play at Sauers level of course.

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 17, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like Sauer might be one to stay because, obviously this depends greatly on the progression of everyone else, he might end up being the cheapest option available.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Nov 17, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree to an extent… It’s ultimately going to come down to who they can afford. We can’t pay four guys as top pairing d-men.

by j-red on Nov 18, 2011 7:15 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

To an extent because I’m not sure it’ll be Sauer that stays.

by j-red on Nov 18, 2011 7:16 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

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