New York Rangers Practice: Brandon Dubinsky Sick, Maintenance Day For Brad Richards
by Joe Fortunato on Nov 21, 2011 1:56 PM EST
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There were a few talking points from the New York Rangers practice today.
The first would be Brandon Dubinsky missing practice due to the flu. The Rangers have another off day after today, so hopefully he's better by the time the team takes on the Florida Panthers, and hopefully it doesn't spread to anyone else. Brad Richards also missed practice due to a maintenance day.
According to Andrew Gross, where defenseman Anton Stralman fits into the equation is still unknown.
The first question, after a brief chat about where he's thinking of living and which preschools he's looking at and how nice an amusement park Rye Playland is (Stralman was unaware the Rangers used to practice there), was exactly where he was in the conditioning/learning process.
"Good question," Stralman said. "I try to work on it every day in practice. Right now, there are a little more practices than at the start (when I signed). Now, there's more system, how we play. That's a little harder. I'm trying to learn as quickly as possible. My timing is starting to get better, which is good."
It seems to me Stralman is either having a very difficult time impressing John Tortorella, or the coach simply can't pick a defenseman to swap him out with. In the end, both Steve Eminger and Jeff Woywitka have been serviceable on the back end and haven't exactly played themselves out of a roster spot.
Thoughts on all this guys?
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I had a bit of bad code in there. Should be all fixed now (after try 47).
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 21, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Looks good now. Those quotes are tricky.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
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who would have thought....
That Eminger/Woywitka would be a solid pairing that actually play smart AND have contributed offensively??? Not this guy!
by inHANKweTruST on Nov 21, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What really concerned me...
was the way that the Rangers struggled with the speed of the Canadiens. MTL did a great job of using their speed to overwhelm our defense and just skate by them on the wing and get the puck deep into the zone… I’m not sure whether it was MTL’s speed or the lack of any energy at all from the Rangers…
This could be a serious problem if it was MTL’s speed that disrupted our game. Both Philly and Pitt play a high octane speed game and if a mediocre MTL team can completely befuddle the Rangers what will a team with equal speed and better skill do to the Rangers?
Just a question to chew on… Personally I don’t think it was the case that only MTL’s speed was the cause… The Rangers were crap from the beginning our best line was the Deaveaux line which doesn’t really have that much speed… But definetly a concern…
Boyle has looked over matched and has looked as if his hands are made of stone not to say he is our best skill guys but he has looked worse.
I think by the end of this upcoming week and the following tuesday game against Pitt we will have a better understanding of where we are… If we continue to struggle with the speed… Hagelin and Bourque are going to look awfully nice with their excellent speed. It’s only one game… but how the Rangers respond and react to the great speed of the upcoming teams will be something to look for…
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It wasn’t their speed alone that was killing us. It was their transition game. The Rags couldn’t complete a damn pass in the neutral zone if they were just passing gas. It seemed every time they got the puck off a turnover our D had to stop and make a U-turn to cover up. We rarely made them come 180 feet through 5 players. Speed kills, but it’s magnified when you’re scrambling into defensive position after a neutral-zone turnover.
It wasn’t like Montreal dominated. We lose to an ECHL team that night.
As far as Boyle….I don’t know. He looks like he’s slower this season than last. I’m guessing his ice-time and possibly offensive chances are going down because of Richards (shot in the dark, I’m sure George has something on this-possibly a story for the site at some point). Prust has also been playing hurt so the line isn’t the same as last year. Don’t know man, don’t know.
And your last point, that’s why this upcoming Florida game is really important from a standpoint of getting their shit together. They’re bound to have a stinker here and there. In an 82-game season even the best teams have them. The test is how you rebound from them with strong games. Play a solid game on Wednesday and go into that 3 in 4 night stretch playing good hockey.
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I’ve talked about Boyle in a few comments. Yes, Richards is hurting him. Boyle has become Drury. Starts in the defensive zone 3 out of 4 times, and has to do it against decent competition.
Just not sure he’s good enough to produce offense in those conditions. Defensively he’ll be fine, if unspectacular.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 21, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
The Rags??
I’ve never seen or heard a true Rangers fan use that term. Hmm.
i agree with jordy
i smell a rat
caerid is an islander fan
burn him at the stake
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At what point do you attribute a preponderance of blame on Torts for not having these guys prepared for this game? While the Rangers haven’t looked like President Trophy contenders the Rangers have looked competitive during most of the first 16 games. The officiating was a joke but Torts wasn’t able to have an answer for anything Montreal was doing, so don’t blame the refs. If the entire team isn’t going it is again Torts fault for not getting the Rangers going for this game.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Nov 21, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Teams also tend to look faster when the other team isn’t going full tilt, which the Rangers were not Saturday night.
I’m not hanging it on Torts. Momma said there’d be days like this. I expect a much better performance Wednesday night in Southern NY.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 21, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah let’s fire the coach because they lose a game. I must have missed your posts giving the coach credit for the 7 wins on a row as well
Over 82 games even the best team will come out flat once in a while and look overmatched.
It really is amazing how NY fans get ready to jump off a cliff after 1 bad gane.
by GAThingy on Nov 21, 2011 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I never suggested firing Torts. But from talking to a number of people on the train and here on the boards. The question may be “why doesn’t Torts have these guys up for this game”. We were flat in the first, flat in the second and flat in the third. After the first period my coach would be flipping out and we would at least show more effort in the second. After the third some people would be benched for not working the first two periods. If you praise the coach for the 7 game win streak you have to blame the coach for the glaring loss that included zero effort after a break.
Do I think it is all Torts fault? No. But if the effort isn’t their from all of the players you need to see what management is or isn’t doing.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Nov 22, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
All seriousness...
Why the F is Zuccarello banned in Hartford? He is good on the powerplay and a decent player. I see no reason why he has to come up and get jammed on a 4th line. Why can’t he play 1st or 3rd. Or 2nd. The more quick pass playmaking the better. Guys are shooting more right? Time to set them up with set up guys. Dubi has been having terrible luck n now he’s sick. Keep him out and make it Zuccarello Richards Callahan. Try it out 3 or 4 games. What could we lose. Watching a kid like that sit in hatford annoys me. He wants to play hard and he does every game why deny him? The drive and motivation he has will launch him on any line with DECENT players. Not a Christensen line he needs a Callahan line or something at that stature. I don’t understand what the harm could be. It could only be better he just needs a good chance.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Nov 21, 2011 4:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Zuke is one of my faves, wish he was playing too.
by teknics on Nov 21, 2011 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Me too its pathetic to watch this kid dying to play here and coming out hard every night and we leave him with redden. He’s going to leave this organization and strike it huge somewhere in Colorado or something. Its BS he’s not playing. What are the stats with him on the powerplay as opposed to not?
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by -19-AgainstAll on Nov 21, 2011 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please tell whose line will he play on? Because lack of suitable linemates and ice time is why he’s not here, not because he doesn’t deserve it.
by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 21, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
excuse me
the only hockey story tonight is that bitch lips whining crybaby vagina face the greatest hockey player of this generation returned to the league and scored 72 goals tonight
granted it was against an ihl team, but it’s still the greatest comeback game, like, ever, except that game mario came back from cancer, and that other game when mario unretired, and that legends game when mario came back and played and looked like he was ready to dominate the nhl again earlier this year even though he was playing against other old guys
ugh, is that how penguins fans think? i need a shower, and a shot of vodka
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The NHL knew the islanders are sucking hard core balls so they made him come back for this. I watched the game and refs called the fishsticks for everything. If there grandma did something at her house they called them for something. It was terrible. They made sure tthere poster child got all the attention.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Nov 21, 2011 10:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lmfao Dipietro steals crosbys puck after game hahah
https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/138808522187083777
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by -19-AgainstAll on Nov 21, 2011 11:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Zuccarello..
I wish Zuc..would play ,he would make difference in transition plus he is skillful around the net..By the way Vinny Prospal,another 3 assists today,,,this season.6 goals and 12 assists,.Rangers did not need him.They have Cristiansen instead!
+1
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by -19-AgainstAll on Nov 21, 2011 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We definitely should have kept Vinny.
At this point we could have a 3rd line of Avery-VInny-MZA, which is solid.
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Anybody in Fla., and going to the game on Wed.?
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by NYR North pole fan base on Nov 22, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, but I will be tailgating in the parking lot. I’ll post tomorrow before I go. I am not sure how early I will get there. Usually, half the crowd are Ranger fans, but with the new Panthers, who knows? LGR!!
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by nathansfamous on Nov 22, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Good. If you like send me an e-mail at parlate2000@Yahoo.no. I’ll be checking it early in the afternoon.
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by NYR North pole fan base on Nov 22, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Seems as though Torts is the type of guy that will leave the lineup alone if it is working, which is the case now. The Rangers have somehow managed to navigate the injuries on defense and I give all the guys much credit for that.
The Canadiens were jamming the middle pretty hard, ala mid to late 90s Devils, and its been a while since anyone has seen that, except possibly in Minnesota. I would assume it would take a game or two to get used to that.
Does anyone know about that 1-3-1 controversy in that Lightning game? Is that a reference to the positioning of the players in the neutral zone? Apparently, it is against the rules. Thanks for any info!
Tampa wasn’t really playing a 1-3-1. It was more of a 0-4-1. They had 4 guys clogging up the neutral zone, so off of the opening faceoff the Flyers just sat in their zone and didn’t more the puck.
What the Lightning did was legal, but my belief is that if you aren’t going to pressure the other team. they have every right to sit back and do nothing.
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I think the ref made the right call by saying that Philly’s inaction is essentially freezing the puck. It is not up to the defense to pressure the puck but it is the offense job to advance the puck. Fraser said this should 10 seconds of inactivity but I think after that debacle the time frame will be firmed up.
72.1 Refusing or Abstaining from Playing the Puck – The purpose of this section is to enforce continuous action and both Referees and Linesmen should interpret and apply the rule to produce this result.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Nov 22, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
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