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Rangers Vs. Canadiens: Rangers Top Canadiens 5-3, Win Third Straight

NEW YORK, NY - NOVEMBER 05:  Brad Richards #19 of the New York Rangers celebrates his goal with teammate Brandon Prust #8 against the Montreal Canadiens at Madison Square Garden on November 5, 2011 in New York City.  (Photo by Nick Laham/Getty Images)

The New York Rangers topped the Montreal Canadiens tonight in New York, and extend their win streak to three. Just four minutes in, things got ugly real quick. Mike Blunden stepped off the Canadiens bench for a line change, and crushed Brandon Dubinsky with a questionable open ice hit. Ryan Callahan took exception to the hit, and went right after Bluden.

After all was said and done, there was a total of 30 penalty minutes handed out, including two game misconducts for Michael Sauer, and Petteri Nokelainen. The Rangers were than awarded a 5-on-3 power play from the resulting penalties. Just 40 seconds later, Erik Christensen netted his first goal this season, and put the Rangers on the board first.

The Rangers didn't stop there, they added two more goals coming from Dan Girardi and Michael Del Zotto. The play that setup Del Zotto's goal was pure insanity. Artem Anisiov dished the puck over the Derek Stepan, who threaded the needle to the streaking Del Zotto. A nifty play, and it put the Rangers up 3-0 heading into the locker rooms. It's also worth noting that the Canadiens were held to just three shots the entire first, and the Rangers had 16 shots.

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The Canadiens came out in the second period fired up, and basically turned the shot count upside down. As a result, there were rewarded with two goals coming from Andrei Kostitsyn and Max Pacioretty. The Rangers seemed out of it until Brad Richards absolutely picked the corner on Carey Price, and gave the Rangers the insurance goal back.

With just under two minutes left, Carey Price left the ice for the extra attacker, and Brian Gionta cashed right as he hit the bench. In a last ditch effort, the Rangers resorted to blocking everything towards Henrik Lundqvist. Although, Hank did bail them out a few times after that. Ryan Callahan was able to find corral the puck and shoot it on the gaping empty net.

The Rangers went on to win their third straight game, and will looked for four straight against the Winnipeg Jets tomorrow night. We'll be adding some new spice to our game recaps, and you'll find tonight's three stars, along with the "Broadway Hat" recipient. Enjoy!

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Remember when half the fan base wanted to trade DZ for a bag of pucks? The kid is getting better every game and is responding well to the responsibility being thrown at him with Staal hurt. his offensive potential is certainly there and hes been solid in his own zone all year. Sure he’ll still make mistakes every now and then but hes 21. the kid is gonna be a stud

by nyrangerfan521 on Nov 6, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

we dont know how good those pucks would be to us

by Zesta02 on Nov 6, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA! +a trillon internets for you sir

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Nov 6, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

The pucks provide jam

R.I.P Derek

Rangers FTW!

by BleedsRangerBlue on Nov 6, 2011 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

a new technologically advanced bag of pucks

Yea but come on, I’m sure those fans wanted the pucks equipped with fox track system from the late 90’s early 2000’s not just the ordinary run of the mill pucks.

by The Richards-Gaborik Connection on Nov 6, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wasn't for trading him

but i didn’t think he was going to live up to his first-round status. Looks so far that I was wrong—and I would only trade him for those illuminated pucks that turn red when a shot goes a certain speed from fox a few years ago.

by Town on Nov 6, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree 1000% regarding DelZotto. This kid is horrific defensively. Don’t let the +/-fool you the team has played strong defensively around him. The sporadic offense he brings is offset by the giveaways he makes. He is too small and physically too weak – just watch him in front of his own net. Classic DelZotto play is letting the forward stand there unchecked or getting out muscled on a rush by the opposing forwards. It happened last night, (resulted in a goal) it has happened just about every game he plays – it will most certainly happen the next game and all future games. TOO SMALL

by Blue Skys on Nov 6, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Habs fans on various websites are crying SO MUCH about the officiating, ugh.

by BigB22 on Nov 6, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

nah, they have good cause

I thought the officials were pretty bad tonight, but the Habs gave them no choice a few times. I don’t understand why they called interference on the first 5-3. It was clearly too many men, but the check knocked hit Dubi while he was still on the puck

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by Scratch and Snif on Nov 6, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

My guess is because he had a breakaway obstructed by an ineligible player and the refs felt something needed to be called for it.

by BigB22 on Nov 6, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya probably. But if that’s the case, then they’re punishing on merit as opposed to strictly by the laws of the game, and even though the ultimate call was just, the Habs have good reason to be upset with it

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by Scratch and Snif on Nov 6, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interference has to due with an ineligible player preventing the play to continue

When you have a Too Many Men penalty, it’s a bench minor. The interference penalty is attributed to Blunden & that’s your 5-on-3. It’s pretty simple. Whether or not the hit is clean doesn’t matter, it’s not a legal check b/c he interfered with an odd-man rush.

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by BriGuy27 on Nov 6, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You did read BSB after the Islander game, right? Fans bitch about refs, it’s what they do.

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by George E. Ays on Nov 6, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I applaud the 3 stars and hat-winner at the bottom. That’s awesome.

Just to get it out of the way, MDZ has been outstanding the past 3-4 games. As somebody who has been hard on him for his mistakes, he seems to have righted his ship (though it’s just a handful of games yet). The biggest difference I see in him is that he’s simplified the game in the defensive zone. No more high-risk stupid plays, just simple passes/chips/lugs out of the zone when it’s safe. He’s also been picking good spots to jump into the offense instead of just randomly flying in and leaving an odd man rush/breakaway behind him.

As far as the penalties/scrum….Cally probably should have gotten the instigator. Also, the interference call seemed like bullshit, but I’m guessing that it’s an extra penalty (too many men + ) if you jump on the ice early and hit somebody? I wonder if there’s something about that deep in the rulebook? Whole thing seemed odd.

Terrific vision by AA/Stepan all night. They were finding guys with good passes all night and AA seems like he’s starting to feel comfortable out there.

Gaborik seems to have slowed down a bit. Be nice to see him pot some more goals.

McD and Girardi continue to be beasts at both ends of the ice. They actually make one hell of a pair.

by Caerid11 on Nov 6, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

It was a too many men penalty because the montreal player being replaced on the ice had yet to get back to the bench, so Blunden by hitting Dubinsky was in effect “playing the puck”. If it was the puck coming up the wing instead of Dubi and he played it, it would have been no different.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Nov 6, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bzzzt. We know it was too many men. But they called the too many men AND an interference penalty for the hit (which by all intents and purposes was perfectly clean and legal as far as conducting hits is concerned). My question was why was he also given an interference penalty for that hit, and I’m assuming it’s because he came off the bench AND hit a player…but I’m not sure.

by Caerid11 on Nov 6, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could it be possible he came on the ice too early therefore becoming the 6th man on resulting in a delayed penalty and then while being that illegal 6th man on he interfered with Dubi. I guess that could be 2 penalties but it all happened so fast.

by I.Am.Spartacus on Nov 6, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I’m just guessing clean hit or not, if you’re extra, you get an interference for whatever you do. My question is, is that an actual rule, ref’s discretion, or did the ref just make a really bad call.

by Caerid11 on Nov 6, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

clean hit… i just think like somebody said… it was a combination of too many men and but for the too many men dubi would not have been hit and would have had a nice odd man rush making him guilty twice… I just don’t think they knew what to do in that situation…

I was screaming at my computer when the CBC broadcast was bitching about it being a clean hit… nobody said it wasn’t… but the 6 guys on the ice was a penalty which meant he interfered with the play by jumping on… (2 penalties)

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by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’ve been trying to read through the rules to figure it out and it says that if the new player plays the puck he can get called for interference. Is checking the puck carrier “playing the puck?” if yes, then it was legit.

by Phildo on Nov 6, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It was the correct call. If a player who is not eligible to be on the ice intentionally interferes with the play( I.e. jumps over the boards, grabs another play as he skates by, etc.) Its interference – doesn’t matter if the hit was clean or not the opposing player its interfering with the play on the ice and is penalized. The Canadiens got a bench minor for the 6th attacker, the ref ruled Blunden knowingly jumped over the boards to stop a scoring chance when he wasn’t eligible to be on the ice and therefore was assessed an interference minor. Its all about intention here. Montreal did not argue, in fact their coach pretty much acknowledged this as he was shown yelling at Blunden and sat him pretty much the rest of the way.

Think about it, if its not called this way, everytime an opposing team gets a breakaway, the defending team could just send a 6th man over the boards and swap a major scoring chance for a 2 minute minor. The key here is accidental vs intentional. (As an example – intent to injure penalties are more severe than accidental injury penalties)

by Blue Skys on Nov 6, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

In some alternate universe, being an extra player and making a clean hit (which it was) means you’re guilty of interference.

If it were the Rangers on the other end of that, we’d all be PISSED.

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Nov 6, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

We’d be pissed about the call at first, then, once it’s clarified, we’d be even more pissed at the player for not only jumping early, but essentially taking two bone-headed penalties in one dumb decision.

by Kritikal on Nov 6, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And BTW by Gaborik slowing down do you mean literally? Or like his production has slowed? Because in terms of speed he was like Bure out there.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Nov 6, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. No complaints about Maggy tonight, he was quite good.

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by Scratch and Snif on Nov 6, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

great string of games by DZ. for sure. the stint in Hartford last year, that some of us advocated, obviously did him well.

;~}

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by voice22 on Nov 6, 2011 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree that he has been playing well, but personally I don’t think the AHL stint has anything to do with it. If you look at his first few games this year, he was playing somewhat similar to what he did last season. It was only after gaining confidence and comfort on the ice that his play improved. I think it was all mental and while the AHL stint was intended to improve that aspect of his game I’m not entirely sure that it was what accomplished it.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Nov 6, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

He needed to go through that development. His arrogance was causing him to make the same stupid effing mistakes over and over again – and NHL players made him pay for it. When Torts tried to take his arrogance down, he lost confidence – he needed the AHL to find his game, and he needed to get right mentally.

by j-red on Nov 6, 2011 7:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Frankie does not agree

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Nov 6, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Mdz only played like 12 games in hartford, an injury ended his season early. Not sure how much improvemenrt can be attributed to that

by GAThingy on Nov 6, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Erik Christensen

finally. that is all

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by -19-AgainstAll on Nov 6, 2011 12:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’ve always liked Girardi but he’s quickly becoming one of my all time favorite Rangers.

by voice22 on Nov 6, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Del Zotto! Finally, someone proves that I am not insane!

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by Brandon C. on Nov 6, 2011 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

But who can we poop on now?

Deveaux? Let’s get down on Deveaux.

by OmarLittle on Nov 6, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

EC’s still on the team isn’t he? He shalt remain the fecal receptor.

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by Scratch and Snif on Nov 6, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth. I like “fecal recptor” by the way

by OmarLittle on Nov 6, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deveaux has been good! I vote that “Giraffi” guy. Or is it Giraredee?

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by Brandon C. on Nov 6, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something like that. Might have the same name as that doofus baseball manager

all that guy ever does is get on his knees and occasionally stand in the way of soft shots from the opposition. Weak sauce

by OmarLittle on Nov 6, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, anyone can block a 90 MPH shot. How about getting hit by a car?

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by Brandon C. on Nov 6, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

so why did we sign Stralman when we could've had this badass?

by OmarLittle on Nov 6, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because Stralman supplies jars of Strawberry Jam for Tortorella

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by Brandon C. on Nov 6, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

well then, makes perfect sense.

by OmarLittle on Nov 6, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course!

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by Brandon C. on Nov 6, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

‘clears throat’

You and me both.

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by Plusch on Nov 6, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic, right!

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by Brandon C. on Nov 6, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stepan really looks like he is benefiting from Richards being there. EC is finally doing something looks like Avery put a boot in ass. All that is left is for Dubi to get off the snide but u cant deny his effort. The king is giving up way to many rebounds i thought the same thing last game im sure he will correct this. I wonder if Biron will get the start against the Jets with the Rangers playing back to back games on saturday and sunday.

by Zesta02 on Nov 6, 2011 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

id be very surprised if marty didnt get the call for tomorrow

by nyrangerfan521 on Nov 6, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless marty isn’t ready to go with missing time due to family issues… i’d be shocked if lundqvist is in net… Biron has played well enough to warrant the start… although torts may opt to go with lundqvist to try to steal the win… and make it 4 in a row… to end the homestand…

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by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stepan is gonna have a few 50 assist seasons in the not-too-distant future

by XLII on Nov 6, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that’s pretty optimistic. He looks more like a guy who, in his prime, will average about 20g 40a.

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by Scratch and Snif on Nov 6, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be really surprised if Step averages 20 goals a year.

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by George E. Ays on Nov 6, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Gabby. I think will be fine. yeah, points have slowed a bit, but knowing him… he’ll go on a tear again.

Looks like the team got their bearings back, but 1-8 on the PP is bad. But hey…. our PP beat the habs tonight. Nothing else, not the 4 ES goals. nope. not at all. lol

R.I.P Derek

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by BleedsRangerBlue on Nov 6, 2011 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve seen a few comments about the lack of production lately regarding Gabby and I figured I’d just respond to this one: the silver lining here, I think, is that were producing without relying on him. Hes flying out there and getting his chances, he just hasn’t netted a few that he probably should have. In short, no worries about Gabby.

by OhCallyMyCaptain on Nov 6, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

not only that...

but he’s playing so well that we don’t need to stack our talent on his line. this gives us more depth. yea, it would be great to have richards and gabby side by side, but we’re a more balanced team now. dubi will wake up in the next bundle of games.

by voice22 on Nov 6, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

the PP is God awful (last night should have been a blowout). they just refuse to throw the rubber at the net from the point. they constantly stand still and allow for the opponent to defend against them easily. until the point men fire away at the net and force the opposing goalie and D to move then we will continue to see the same thing as we have for the last 3 years. which is crap. all those PPs last night masked how the Habs totally outplayed the Rangers 5 on 5. the problem is for the Habs that the game spent very little time 5 on 5. there was no way the Rangers could keep up with the Habs’ speed 5 on 5 because they weren’t clogging the neutral zone like they need to against fast teams.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't shoot shots from the point if you know they'll get blocked

Montreal did a great job of getting in the lanes last night.

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by BriGuy27 on Nov 6, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you shoot anyway. passing laterally from point person to point person will guarantee you that you won’t score. I’ll bet my life on that. they’ve been doing this for 4 years now, it doesn’t work. again, it doesn’t work. they are so easy to defend against on the PP that it’s laughable. time to try something else, right? throw the puck at the net and see what happens. it has nothing to do with the Habs last night. every game is like this.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It somewhat worked when the point men were moving around and they actually got one-timers off. When they’re standing still, it does nothing to help the team whatsoever expect maybe being a pass option (rather than a double-threat pass/shoot option).

by Kritikal on Nov 6, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

even though the Rangers had even strength goals, one was BR’s rip, one was an empty-netter, and the other 2 were not too long after the PPs were ended. when both teams were settled into 5 on 5 play (no PP carryover momentum) the Habs were the much better team. Shots at one point were 17-3. after continuous 5 on 5 play the shots were 25-22 rangers. and then even at 25.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally agreed, without the PPs we would probably have lost.

by CrazyRangerFan on Nov 6, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The differance maker?

The Rangers are undefeated since Avery has been called up! i figured i’d throw this out before anyone could tomorrow haha. He is obviously the offensive spark that we’ve lacked and we have now catipulted to favorites for the cup. See you guys in June during the parade down Broadway. WOOOOOOOOO!

by The Richards-Gaborik Connection on Nov 6, 2011 1:44 AM EDT reply actions  

So where are the debbie downers that have been hanging around to rag on the team and MDZ… like i’ve said they only show up when the team is doing bad… The only thing that pisses me off about those people is that they have nothing positive to say… they only want to point out the negatives… and it’s not the regulars…

Let’s beat the damn jets tomorrow and make it a good homecoming…

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by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 2:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I see what you're saying

but this site is also an outlet for some fans to vent so it doesn’t bother me too much when they come around

by Town on Nov 6, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Clialicata17- You and I went round and round about MDZ a few games ago. As I said then and will repeat- I am rooting for MDZ to succeed. HOWEVER- dont stick your head in the sand either. MDZ has some excellent offensive plays (more lately than previously) but he still is lacking defensively and turns the puck over too often in his own zone. He needs to improve his defense -thats all I am saying.

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by RangerFanInChicago on Nov 6, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

totally agreed. I hammered MDZ but have praised him him the last 3 games because MDZ DESERVED THE PRAISE just like he deserved the criticism. the game against the Leafs he was TERRIBLE. JUST T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Since then he’s played much better. you guys who think you “corner the market” on being a Ranger gives this blog a bad name. there are other way more knowledgeable Ranger hockey fans that have stopped posting here because of this kind of stupidity that is said here about analyzing the games properly. here’s a news flash: without the PPs last night, THEY LOSE THAT GAME. That’s right, they lose the game. I was there last night. The shots were 17-3 at one point and then 25-22. guess what? when it was 5 on 5 consistent play the Habs were the much better team. is that Debbie Downer or saying the truth? if you can’t take the truth that’s fine (and that’s your problem) but don’t criticize other posters just because they (including me) see the truth and say so. be mad at the players who don’t play well, not the posters who see it and deliver the message accurately.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

a win’s a win’s a win… i for one said the game against the leafs was terrible however… i did not rant for days about firing the coaching staff… trading players… “fail for nail”… the toronto game was a disgrace… i never criticized anybody by name and you are one of the regulars… i’m talking about the people who only show up to rag on the team… when they play bad I’ll tell you they played… last night they won, whether it was 5 on 5 or 5 on 4 or 5 on 3…. they played a good hard first period earned a lead and put it in cruise control… we also were missing sauer for the entire game and we had 3 dmen playing 25+ minutes…

for people who show up just to put this team down 7 games into the season is the dumbest reasoning i’ve ever heard… a loss by a sports team is something you must vent about for days… you’ve got bigger problems…

somebody basically said torts intentionally lost a game… are you kidding me… thats the outlandish behavior i’m talking about

@clalicata17

by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, then if I misinterpreted, then I apologize. I apologize for lumping you in with some that post here that tear fans apart for saying negative things. I certainly do not like when fans come here, dump and leave. I call them “seagulls.” They come, dump a pile of crap, and then leave just as quickly. and yes, I was also telling fans in a gentle way to step away from the ledge less than 10 games into the season which is knee-jerk reaction. I think MDZ has been great after a terrible start and that includes the games he was a + in (which deceiving sometimes). Quite honestly, and don’t get upset, but I hope he keeps it up for the team’s sake AND to see if the preds take notice to include MDZ in a package to get either Weber or Suter. I’m happy for MDZ and the team but if trading Dubi (who is one of my "faves), MDZ, and a #1 gets me Suter then I am doing cartwheels. you would have to add a top prospect to get Weber.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

we did and i will agree to disagree with you because as a 21 year old his play has been exceptional this year… and exceptional in the context of himself… not in the entire NHL the guy has killed penalties and played over 25 minutes a game and posted a plus for the season… the guys going to screw up… hell i’m 23 and i make mistakes every damn day… in the context of other 21 year olds on defense… he’s played very well… and those people calling for cam fowler… his play is dismal…

MDZ is progressing and is going to have the occasionaly set back for 1 or 2 games… but it’s the crucifying of the guy that i don’t get by some people… after the home-opener DZ was singled out… the team blew that night after the 1st… to start the year DZ was supposed to be a third pairing guy… now he’s playing top 4 minutes against some good god damn lines… in the ducks game he was either stuck with the Selanne line or the Perry line… against the Sharks it was either the thornton line or the Couture line… he’s not being sheltered… and thats why i think he’s played very well…

so for now we’ll agree to disagree…

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by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Its all good- the term banter means to present varying ideas and philosphies. No offense taken.

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by RangerFanInChicago on Nov 6, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

and no offense intended

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by RangerFanInChicago on Nov 6, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I Wrong About The Rules...

Unfortunatley I was working tonight so I only got to see the first period. What i got to see was a perfectly timed “clean hit”. but anyone one who has played hockey knows you do not have the timing to jump off the bench and hit somebody like Dubi got hit. So after they replayed the highlight of too many men on the ice another fan brought it to my attention that one of habseyesontheprize contributors said that the officiating was unfair. So after the game I decided to check and see if there feelings had changed and this is what I read…

The catastrophe started when Mike Blunden jumped over the boards and nailed Brandon Dubinsky with a clean hit. Dubinsky took exception and raced after Blunden. In the mean time, Rangers captain Ryan Callahan got into the ruckus too and dropped the gloves with Blunden.

Callahan and Blunden both received fighting majors, and Blunden also received a minor for interference. Interference, for hitting the puck carrier with a clean hit! Say what? And with Callahan jumping in, where was the instigator call?

The interference call may be derived from the fact there were six Canadiens on the ice, and it is appropriately treated as so. If someone can check the rule book to clarify that, please do. Regardless the missed call on Callahan spurred the momentum.

Now by know means think there should be a suspension I feel all justice has been done with the 2 minute minor that was served considering the form of the hit and that Dubinsky is okay… But it is Not a clean hit when there are 6 skaters and a goalie on the ice… AND can anybody clarify what he was trying to say in that last paragragh?

by Ranger McJersey on Nov 6, 2011 2:55 AM EDT reply actions  

basically… it’s a whole… if he hadn’t jumped on the hit wouldn’t have occured so he technically interfered with play…

thus… jumping on creating a too many men… (1 penalty) the extra player then making contact and breaking up the play was interference for if he did not take the first penalty by jumping on and then the sequential penalty illegally interfering with the play… there would have been no penalties at all… so basically the way the play happened it was a 2 for one… and the too many men created the interference call… without the too many men there is nothing wrong with the hit…

regarding the cleanliness of the hit… had it not been a too many men instance… the hit was a clean hit… he didn’t target the head it was shoulder on shoulder/chest… the hit on its own was clean…

@clalicata17

by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly what I was saying… it was me saying how they were crying about how they broke the rules…

by Ranger McJersey on Nov 6, 2011 4:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blunden should not have been on the ice, essentially he was a “bench” player:

56.2 A minor penalty shall be imposed on any identifiable player on the players’ bench or penalty bench who, by means of his stick or his body, interferes with the movements of the puck or any opponent on the ice during the progress of the play. In addition, should a player about to come onto the ice, play the puck while one or both skates are still on the players’ or penalty bench, a minor penalty for interference shall be assessed."

by BigB22 on Nov 6, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

DING DING DING

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 6, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This was a fun game to watch.
I’m really glad to see MDZ coming around nicely. And I really like what Torts had to say about him after the Ducks game.

As far as the hit: I’m not rules expert, but I imagine they treated it as if someone on the bench had interfered with Dubi. Imagine a guy reaches over the board and hooks Dubi to stop his break away – they’d probably call interference. Well, same thing, except the guy was on the ice as a 6th man. Makes sense to me.
The penalties were lopsided, but I don’t recall any on the Habs that were BS or phantom. They all seemed legit to me. And the Rangers have been very disciplined the last few games, legitimately.

by j-red on Nov 6, 2011 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Amazing what confidence can do, either way. MDZ has been great since a forgettable game against the Leafs when he was a turnover machine. He is much more comfident and it is showing in his play. i watched him last night when I was at the game and his positioning was outstanding. The play with him getting the feed from Stepan (great vision on that play) was a thing of beauty. Conversely a lack of confidence can make your game a mess like it is now with Dubi. The effort is there, no question, but he has a hard time receiving passes cleaning and having something 15 SOGs at this stage is terrible. He needs to shoot more by loosening up on the grip of his stick. That hit was a clear blind-side as the Hab came off the bench (probably the extra man BTW) and at the speed of the play looked like a high hit. Other than maybe one call against the Habs, they earned every one of those penalties. The Habs’ fans should whine aout their team not the officials. They were not disciplined at all after playing the night before at home.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

Just saw the replay, clean hit, BUT he was clearly the extra man that came off the bench to hit Dubi. Possible interference as well as the puck was gone. It’s when you’re at the game because they don’t show replays like that.

by Richter1994 on Nov 6, 2011 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

2 things to love

Rangers are finally picking up for Hank….Lundqvist has been merely human the last couple of games and the Rangers aren’t getting shaken by it at all. Offensively this team is skating so much better than they did earlier in the season….hate to say it so soon but it’s hard to see a spot on this team for Mike Rupp now, Deveaux and Avery bring size and athleticism that Rupp didn’t seem to have with his bum knee.

Del Zotto has looked like the player we all want him to be in the last 3 games….I’ve been hard on him because of turnovers and poor defensive positioning in the past, but he has been very solid playing big minutes for the Rangers. Not only that but his offensive-zone vision appears to have returned—he has set up numerous good chances in the last 3 games and obviously is putting the puck on and in net when shooting it. I’m still not sold on his decision-making when it comes to taking the body, but as long as he can keep contributing smart play in the offensive zone he will be a very useful member of this team. Happy to say I’ve been too hard on the guy, and it looks like he’s learned something about playing pro hockey from his difficult season of 2010-11.

Prole art threat.

by greifi griffie on Nov 6, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah if Hank could play like he did against Vancouver every night then we’d be in good shape.

We are going to go to Philadelphia... and we are going to win.- Glen Sather

by RichieToGabbySCORE on Nov 6, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

hank needs to get a bunch of games in a row… which is tough cause we don’t want to kill the guy… he’s a better player when he plays every night but when he plays every night he’s dead tired by game 82

@clalicata17

by Clalicata17 on Nov 6, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, I get it.

The Too Many Men call is a BENCH minor – no call on Blunden. To step off the bench and lay an “unfair” check, even if it’s clean, is reason for a penalty.

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Nov 6, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

It’s like when a player comes off the bench and tackles the runner heading in for the score.

by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Nov 6, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

And let's be fair

Even the Habs fans surrounding me couldn’t figure out the two holding calls that gave the Canadians the five on three. Interference would have been questionable. Holding on those calls was ridiculous.

The overall problem in that the officiating can’t keep up with the game. Not a new phenomenon

by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Nov 6, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Power Play

Was absolutely horrible yeasterday. The Rangers had man adventage 8 times (except the 5 on 3) and didn’t capitalize.
Richards was awful on the PP. I don’t understand why they keep two quaterbacks (Richards and MDZ) on the same PP unit.

by 68 Forever on Nov 6, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

Dan Girardi

How I love you. I always shy away from thinking or saying things like without “X” we’d be lost, but let me just say that if Girardi hasn’t earned your complete respect yet, I dont know who will. Forget “without,” WITH Girardi I sleep better at night.

by OhCallyMyCaptain on Nov 6, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

Funny how when girardi signed his new contract last year, the majority of posters thought we way overpaid. Seems quite the bargain now, especially with staal out forever.

by GAThingy on Nov 6, 2011 2:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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