New York Rangers News: J.T. Miller Makes USA WJC Roster
by Joe Fortunato on Dec 22, 2011 10:42 AM EST
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The New York Rangers' first round selection in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, J.T. Miller, got another big boost of confidence today, when he made the final cut of the United States World Junior Championship roster.
Miller has been fantastic in the OHL, compiling 13 goals and 26 assists for 39 points in 31 games. Miller will follow in the footsteps of Rangers' prospects like Derek Stepan and Chris Kreider. Stepan lead the entire tournament they year he played, and Kreider was a constant threat the years he participated.
Now the Rangers will hope Miller, who has grown significantly as a player since he joined the OHL, follows in their footsteps. This is the next step in his development since the WJC is some of the best competition a young player can have at this point in his career. It will be interesting to see how he handles it.
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Arguably our 3rd best prospect now, behind Kreider and Erixon, and right there with Thomas.
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Thomas is still a bit higher up.
I can’t fault him for his season after getting cut early.
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by Jonathan. on Dec 22, 2011 11:13 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It is interesting how big of a jump he has taken
I talk to the Plymouth Whalers twitter guy after every game, and he’s always raving about his overall play along with his scoring.
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by Joe Fortunato on Dec 22, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I think this was to be expected
But it still is nice to see how wrong I’ve been about blowing up over J.T. Miller during the draft
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by Kevin Power on Dec 22, 2011 11:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions
you mean threatening to burn down your house, the neighbor's house, your second grade teacher's house, etc.....?
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Yeah…that…
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by Kevin Power on Dec 22, 2011 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could be good draft class.
St. Croix projects bottom six but is taking another step forward in terms of production. Wildcard will be the 3rd rounder Foggarty from the Grachev trade.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Dec 22, 2011 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FACT - JT Miller plays NHL regular season game for NYR before C. Thomas.
Kid will make roster out of camp next year.
Kreider/Dubinsky/Miller…strap that shit on for a third line. Gets me hot just thinking about it.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Dec 22, 2011 12:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
someone needs a visit to west garden spa
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Too lazy...
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by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Dec 22, 2011 2:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kreider needs to be a first liner for us
Put him with Gaby and step and watch him put up 60 points as a rookie
kreider-step-gaby
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Yeah, and than you lose the entire defensive presence on that line. It’s not all offense. If AA isn’t doing the dirty work on that line, they don’t get the puck out of the offensive zone.
Why break up your best line? Just put the dude with BR and Cally.
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I think you’re underrating Kreider and Steps defensive abilities. The speed/skill of kreider and Gaby on the same line would be tough to deal with for opposing defenses. I think pressure they can put on offensively outweighs the defensive downgrade.
@btown46
I disagree. Almost every single 2 v 1 opportunity Stepan and Gaborik get is due to AA making the defensive play. Maybe Kreider turns out to be that good, but who knows?
It’s waaayyy to early to pencil in a guy who has never played in the NHL on a first line, especially over the best two-way forward on our team. Yes, AA is the best two way forward on our team.
Kreider has yet to even dominate college. What evidence do we have that he’ll put up 60 points as a rookie. And if he is that good, why not put him on another line to get some other guys going.
We have one consistently good line. Don’t break it up. Instead, use different combinations to get other lines going. Shit, put Kreider or Hagelin with Dubinsky and Thomas. That’ll get Dubi going right?
AA Step Gabs
Hagelin BR Cally
Kreider Dubi Thomas
Why not? I highly doubt Miller is ready next year anyways.
Perhaps I am underrating their defensive abilities, but you are definitely underrating what AA brings to the table, and you are definitely overrating Krieder. He’s never played an NHL game and you already think he’s going to put up 60 points?
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First off, I only project 60 points if he plays with Gaby.
Second, it would be far from the first time a rookie scores 60 points in the NHL, and far from the first time a rookie has been projected to score 60 points; just because they haven’t played in the NHL, doesn’t mean you can’t project their success.
He’s a first round pick who has opted out of playing in the NHL a few times and is now a man. He’s huge with blazing speed and good hands. I don’t think Boston College is as good as projected, so he is getting keyed on, which is limiting his scoring, but he is still managing to lead the team in points against the best competition in the nation.
I don’t doubt that anisimov is our best two-way forward. i think if he plays with Brich and Cally, i think it can be an upgraded “pack line” with kreider-step-gaby as that dynamic first line that we wish we had last year.
@btown46
Fair enough. I just don’t understand the logic of breaking up the one great line we have. AA and Step are on pace for 60ish points, and Gaborik is at about a PPG pace.
Why change that?
If Kreider is that good let him bring another line up. Put him on that second line and then we have two dynamic lines.
Why change the one thing that’s working?
Good problem to have regardless.
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I see what you're saying
through my eyes, the offensive potential of such a line is seductive and enough to break up the gas line..besides, a lot changes in a year.
The reason I feel comfortable doing this is an anisimov-brich-cally line would be like an upgraded pack line and could be an extremely useful, effective line in all situations.
@btown46
Fair enough.
Well, having Gabs/BR/Step/AA/Cally/Dubi/Miller/Thomas/Kreider/Hagelin/Boyle/Prust
is a hell of a lineup, no matter how you break em up.
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Off the Subject...
Dubi, Wolski,MZA, V tank and a & Third round pick for E. Staal…..
Nope. Dude makes waaay to much money for his production. We would have 4 players (BR, Gabs, E.Staal, and Hank) making like 30 mil.
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His cap hit is 8.25 Million through the 2015-2016 season. He also has a NTC. Not worth it.
by Eastern Impact on Dec 22, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
From what I’ve seen of and read about Miller, he seems like a really good prospect. He is not the potential superstar that some fans say the Rangers need in their system (hey, every organization, save for the Oilers, needs one of those), but he projects as another good two-way forward who can chip in 60 or so points.
Having five 50 pt guys is better than two 100 pt guys.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Dec 22, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Not in my book.
100 point players are Black Swans and can make 30 point guys into 50 point guys. Would you rather build your team around Crosby and Malkin or Dubi, Cally, AA, Step & Richards..I love the Rangers but I’m going Crosby/Malkin.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Dec 22, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
only problem is the 100 point guys command upwards of 8 mil per season… so you are piece mealing the rest of the line-up together…
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They filled out the team pretty nicely… no?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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