Trading season is almost here lets look at what the bottom dwellers have to offer
Since we are coming out of December clearly in a position to play this post season lets assess what will make this team stronger, and see what is available with some of the sellers on the market.
Areas that the Rangers can use players I see 2
1. Another capable top 6 forward. Hagelin is playing great but I would not mind seeing another vet that can be brought in for cheap to help solidify a four line team of talented players.
2. Veteran D-man this is assuming that Sauer wont be ready at all this season which is likely. I am assuming that Staal makes a recovery before the deadline. If both come back this is not necessary we have the depth but if something is cheap and can be had for spares it wouldn’t hurt.
What the Rangers can give away in order of worth in my opinion
Wolski, MZA, Defensive prospect such as V-tank, Rupp (not needed), Christensen, Avery (doubt we can give these last two away). I wouldn’t want to give away any of our regular players because what we have works for us right now no reason to disrupt the roster besides moving around spares.
A strong strategy this year could be to cast off these outcasts for picks come deadline, this draft is supposed to be pretty strong bringing in some extra pieces to the stable is not a bad idea for spare parts or players that won’t be likely to resign.
Most likely sellers
West:
Columbus: mixed up team, fell way short of high expectations set by themselves, have some vets that can be moved as renters and some other assets that could cost more
Anaheim: A team that no one predicted to be down this low but it is obvious that the magic of the last few seasons has fallen off. There are players that have fallen out of favor and some rentals available maybe.
Edmonton: Team is pretty young I doubt there is much to work with as far as decent vets go, I think they will be expensive to deal with
Colorado: Have a few iconic players that can’t be moved and young kids that are finding themselves. Will be hard to negotiate out of them
East:
Carolina: Exploded this season in a bad way. Their stars are hurt or not performing, their defense is a mess, there might be some value players to pinch off this team like so many teams did to florida over the last few seasons.
Fishsticks (not tradable): they need to give some guys a change of scenery, their coaching staff is inexperienced as is the team, for the most part but besides Mark Streit their vets are bottom of the barrel and not the kind of players that are going to show the team the way. They need to make moves to bring in some quality to go with the JT, Molson, PA line so the rest of them can develop as they probably should have. Their GM is loyal but awful and I doubt much will change in their situation and many players will not live up to potential because the lack of guidance.
Tampa: Team is a disaster this year compared to last year. Though the new coach might have made them a fluke last year it seems that they have regressed back to their former selves. Players might be available but is there much worth for us.
Montreal (I feel their coaching change will not be making them better): A team that I don’t think is getting better since switching coaches. I doubt the coach was the problem in the first place. The GM is more responsible for continuing to let the team be undersized without adding more talent since the Gomez disaster and bringing in Gionta to reunite an old tandem of undersized players which didn’t work out.
What there is to sell
Columbus: Columbus could use some goalie prospects since Mason is a shit show for them, also some D prospects wouldn’t be denied for them. A good top 6 player could help them also if they wanted a wolski or MZA
Renters IE expiring contracts:
Huselius (pass)
Pahlsson (pass)
PROSPAL- if we can pick up prospal on the cheap as in just draft picks or a low prospect he will only make us deeper for low cost since he is an old vet on a one year contract that probably won’t resign and go through another Columbus drop ball next season.
Boll- RFA tough guy that can win faceoffs, unless something happens though we don’t need another bottom dweller on this team he won’t help to much unless one of our bottom guys is done for the season still wouldn’t want to go for him.
MacKenzie (who? Pass)
Dorsett (big pass)
Martinek- vet d man but he is not better then what we have going in our slap together whale bottom end, pass.
Nikitin- he is an rfa but I don’t know a thing about this kid withholding verdict if he is a solid guy MZA could probably fetch him if he is a bottom pairing guy we don’t need him.
Aaron Johnson- UFA but I don’t know who he is again doubt he is anything special
Anaheim: A team in turmoil, could use some Defense and offensive players that give a shit about playing 2 way. They might not have much available that isn’t going to cost a pretty penny (bobby ryan) but they are a team with their two best players not named Selanne hitting the UFA market in 2 seasons so they could move some cap space and reload for the resigning of their big guns.
Available players:
Bobby Ryan- was the big talk could Duby and V-tank get him? Doubt it if possible its something to consider I would rather keep the defensively responsible Duby personally for a friendlier cap hit, Ryan is not a short term thing either he is locked up for a while can lead to cap issues in the future.
Jason Blake: guy has the vet presence if he is cheap it could be possible pending injury situation. A complete rental old bastard.
Niklas Hagman (pass)
George Parros- if we want a real good fighter sure if we realize that this isn’t the 80s and fighters are a dying breed pass all day long.
Rod Pelley (PASS)
Nick Bonino- no idea who he is, rfa probably bottom 6 don’t feel he is needed.
Beauchemin- he has a list of teams he can be traded to, if we are hunting near the top we would interest him I bet, his cap hit isn’t horrific and if we need to add a solid vet to hold Sauer’s spot he might be the ticket if he can be had without sacrificing. Wolski/mza, D prospect or D prospect and a goalie prospect, and a 2nd ? If more probably not
Brookbank (pass)
Mark Fraser- rfa guy doubt we need him or that they want to give away a young D man as they fix their problem
Lydman- he has 2 seasons left would be cheaper then Beauchemin but I don’t feel he is worth pursuing with our current D depth.
Edmonton: team needs time to develop a few d prospects and goalie prospects might be a good thing since Khabby isn’t going to last to much longer.
Available players:
Hemsky- injury prone not really the guy we are looking for but if he is dirt cheap he couldn’t hurt not really into him.
Gagner- nice young player that is being overshadowed by better young players, he is a undersized center who I do not think we have a place for pass.
Petrell (pass)
Hordichuk (pass)
Cam Barker- I don’t us or them are interested in dealing for him
Andy Sutton- There are better vet choices not really feeling Suttons game especially old bastard Sutton
Peckham- again cant see interest to move him
Petry- no idea doubt we need him or they want to move him
Potter- bottom feeder no need pass
Colorado: A team in a rebuild, doing it correctly they have the iconic vets that can still play and great young players that are learning the game from quality players around them. Goaltending is a mess but they really cant shove more guys into the mix. Defense might need a few prospects but eh they seem pretty set to start moving up in the world with experience under their players belts.
Available players:
Duchene: no he is not going anywhere
Jones (pass with that cap hit)
Mueller (broken player)
McClement (PASS)
McLeod-idk who he is doubt he is a top 6
Winnik (pass)
O’Reilly- they shouldn’t trade him he is young and playing well great depth player though but we don’t need more centers.
Porter- again no idea why he would need to move he is fine for who he is.
Yip- pass
Galiardi- doubt he is in the market not really that attractive for us
Lindstrom- bottom 6 pass
Van Der Gulik- no idea doubt he is much from his cap hit.
Kyle Quincey- good D man they are trying to improve they won’t move the good ones
Erik Johnson- he isn’t moving for cheap they gave too much to get him to look that stupid selling him cheap
Wilson- Again why trade the good ones
O’Brien-pass
Hunwick-pass
Recap of the west biggest people I see to go for are
Prospal
Beauchemin
Blake
Hemsky
Could get prospal and Beauchemin wouldn’t be terrible.
EAST
Islanders: not even going to list them fuck em
Carolina: Team is exploding time to try and pick off some players I’m sure many will be swooping in on this carcass.
Available players:
ERIC STAAL: kidding but the fucker owes us after taking out our staal, he should be here out of principle for hurting the family.
Ruutu- good bottom 6 guy not really great top 6 guy, not needed but not a bad player that someone will probably pick up
Ponikarovsky- if we can get him without damaging ourselves he can fit the bill maybe
Anthony Stewart- he has 2 years left but I like his game and cap hit he wouldn’t be a bad fit at all
Bowman- fresh kid they won’t want to trade the fresh ones.
Tlusty- another fresh kid not really what we are looking for
Spacek- hahahaha
Allen- not really the vet we need might be serviceable
Gleason- another good vet choice if we can get him for a lot less the Beauchemin he might be a great addition to our second and third pairings. I like his game he could help us out.
Tampa: A team in turmoil, needs goaltending prospects and D prospects to right the ship.
Available Players:
Dominic Moore- strong bottom 6 guy we had him once he was fine we don’t really have a place for him again unless someone is out indefinitely
Ryan Shannon- eh pass possibly
Downie- good 3rd line kid, not what we really need doubt we go for him.
Purcell- I really like teddy’s game good guy to have has 2 years left but could be an option.
Adam Hall(pass)
Pyatt (Pass)
Blair Jones (pass)
Wyman- idk who he is but I doubt we need him.
Kubina- much better vets available for that price range.
Oberg- doubt they want to move him or that we need him.
Clark- (pass)
Gilroy-hahaha
Gervais (Pass)
Montreal: A decent team in a bad situation. They need size more than anything else. Wolski is big… some of our D prospects are big… maybe
Kostitsyn- I like his game he will probably cost too much but he is an option he might be the best one.
Moen- pass we don’t need bottom 6
Eller- pass bottom 6
Darche- guy plays great against us is a good guy pending injury status could be a possibility
White- pass
Blunden (PASS)
Nokelainen- rfa no idea who he is
Gorges- could be the vet D to bring in good cap hit and not a bad player
Gill- another worthy vet candidate could help us out but I doubt Montreal wants to lose one of their bigger players.
Campoli- pass
Emelin- rookie pass need experience
Diaz- rookie pass need experience
Subban- Pass he is an asshole
Price- let’s get him lol. Having Hank backed by Price is the best goalie combo period no chance he moves we don’t need him either Biron has been everything we asked for.
Recap the east
Not a ton of available forwards but a good number of Vet Dmen that can be considered.
Kostitsyn, Gill, Jorges, Darche, Purcell, Gleason, Stewart, Ponikarovsky, STAAL!!
I think there is more to pick from in the east out of the bottom dwellers but we will see how the trading goes in the next few months.
Opinions on the above players or people I neglected that are rentals that can help the team?
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I see you listed Rupp has not needed. I personally think he is. Prust can’t always be the one getting into scraps, it takes a toll on a player. Although, both Rupp and Prust can still put in a few goals as well. Rupp has been good since returning.
see George? someone else agrees with me, lol. exactly what I have been saying Bryan (that Prust can’t do it himself). That’s why I thought Rupp was a good signing, because he can scrap and still potentially score 7-10 goals. Rupp can play the game when he’s healthy.
Rupp also has size, he is veteran unlike prust. Also with his contract his unmovable. I think this team needs little and was actually built correctly (the only thing it’s really missing is another elite winger), I say we should only trade MZA for picks, maybe they could get a 2nd rounder for him.
Well, Wolski is here with the intention of being that winger. Offensively, he’s had a career of putting up points at a rate comparable to the best in the league, just with 1/2 the ice time because he doesn’t earn more.
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by George E. Ays on Dec 25, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see wolski ever making it back to the top 6 on this team.
He just dosn’t have the hustle and grit to stay on a torts coached team.
I don’t know but I would think Torts despises WW.
by Richter1994 on Dec 25, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I really think we need to assume that if we are to have a shot at the cup this year we will have to get past either Philly or Boston…and maybe both.
Size is going to be even more important in those games. Rupp is a player that could make a difference in those types of games. We need to stop looking at the stat line and look at the playoffs. You are going to need warriors to get past those two teams. Rupp is exactly that.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Gleason, Ruutu, Prospal
Those are the only players that the Rangers should be interested in and realistically, I don’t see the Rangers going after much, but if they were to try to get an extra guy, I’d put my money on one of these 3 guys.
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My yearning for the Rangers to ask about Johnny Boychuk hasn’t subsided. FA after this year and since he plays on the top pair with Chara the Bees may not pay him what a top pair D gets. Big shot and plays aggressive D. He gets zero PP time with the Bees because of Chara, Corvo, and Seidenberg. Boychuk would get PP time here. or should anyway. My other possibilities are Ryan (ducks still losing) and Statsny if they are available and do not gut the team for trade. making a lower trade is useless as we have enough depth at the Whale to bring up an equivalent as opposed to trade.
See, I'm with you.
I see a deal for Ryan, and a separate deal for Boychuk. Statsny is going nowhere according to all reports. I really don’t want an older veteran; I’d rather see this team get some size and speed brought back in a trade, both up front and on the point.
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it almost appears Ryan will be a trade casualty doesn’t it? The Ducks got nothing going even after the coaching change. Ryan back home (well near NJ anyway) might be just what he needs. And we could use a 30-40 goal scorer that’s relatively reasonably priced. I think Boychuk would be perfect for us. But what would we have to give up if he’s even available?
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A draft choice for Boychuk, as Boston is looking for little or no money back in a deal.
A point about Ryan…a deal with the Ducks will require giving them depth. They are not looking for the straight-up star-for-for deal or the Top-6, d-man, and 1st rounder people are speculating. I understand that everyone has sources and resources, but draw the conclusions by connecting the dots. The Ducks are lacking depth, big time…when you speculate and draw conclusions, this is something you need to bear in mind. Ryan will garner the depth their team is looking for. Getzlaf would, too.
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by Danz10 on Dec 26, 2011 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Which then causes a problem for team like us. We need to trade cap hit back to take on Ryan. Better suitors will be teams that can absorb the cap hit which are normally teams at the bottom of the league and who most likely have young players to trade back from the years of drafting high.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
If the Rangers have to trade a slew of players for Ryan then I would pass and go for Boychuk if it was not cost prohibitive trade-wise.
by Richter1994 on Dec 26, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I think the conversation starts with Dubi. Where it goes from there I don’t know but it would have to include a few younger players. I doubt WW has much trade value. MZA either as I am sure other teams know he wont be resigning with the NYR after this season. So whats left is roster players or kids.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Dubi is a logical place to start especially since they are in the same general $$ area. I would think Dubi and maybe Erxion would be the likely asking price.
by Richter1994 on Dec 26, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
WW has more trade value than you know. MZA’s value has decreased because the league saw him, and didn’t think much of him for starters. Pretty much, some in the league think he is getting ready to run back to the SEL.
WW is ready to break out, and needs a real chance to play. One thing about him is that he is a terrific skater. Colorado’s organization did his skating justice, and with a solid opportunity to play, he can score 15-20 goals regularly going forward. Playing long-term with a solid playmaker and power forward combination, he could really be impactful. His current contract is one that is easy to either let him return to a team as a UFA, albeit that he is an RFA at season’s end (offering no qualifying offer at the end of his deal).
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How do you figure? Right now he is nothing more than a rental player who has not even played this season and probably is woefully out of shape. This is not the type of player teams are looking to add for a playoff run.
He is a RFA at the end of this season and it is pretty much a foregone conclusion that the Rangers will not sign him at least at anything close to his current salary. Not sure if we need to give him +10% to retain his right or if he is arbitration eligible. If so in all likelihood he will walk as a UFA.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 28, 2011 5:23 AM EST up reply actions
Ok so I looked it up. We do not need to qualify him but he is eligible for arbitration.
No clue how that will play out but you have to assume any award over 2mil and the Rangers will walk.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 28, 2011 5:36 AM EST up reply actions
This is one part of how WW has trade value, and his size is another. Don’t look Anaheim or Tampa thumbing their noses at Wolski.
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by Danz10 on Dec 29, 2011 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not quite...
Boychuk is seen as a middle draft choice to some, and potentially a second-rounder for others. If Sather wanted to make this move, my suggestion would be a third-round pick either in 2012 or 2013.
Ryan (who did score a goal last night) on the other hand, is a big chip playing for the wrong type of team. He makes his team a playoff team, but only if the rest of the team is on par in their roles.
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you think that’s all for Boychuk? hmm, interesting since he’s a first pair D though he is a FA after this season. If that’s what it took then the Rangers should be very interested.
by Richter1994 on Dec 26, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
You think Boston is going to trade him to us?
I would have to imagine that Boston would look at us as a probable playoff match-up and would be hesitant to do a trade like that which would make us better but not give them any short term improvement.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt it as to your point but i certainly would ask. He would be perfect for the Rangers.
by Richter1994 on Dec 26, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Nj isn home for Ryan
yeah, he was born there, but mom and him left his abusive father and went to canada. To say its what he needs really isnt true, because he doesnt consider NJ his home. A change of scenery may be good, but hes having a bad year, similar to gabby last year. Regardless, he ll pick it up, and if we got him for the right price it would be awesome.
Actually Ryan isnt even his name. He changed it to hide from the cops. You should read up on his story, very interesting.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/02/us_olympic_hockey_player_bobby.html here it is just read it. wow, just incredible.
There is a better one but cant find it now. Goes more into his upbringing. How he played roller hockey in Cali and people finally realized that this kid was a lot like Bobby Stevenson since it was hard to hide the skill but said nothing. How his father was arrested by going to the draft day since he is not supposed to be near him and his mother but he went anyway.
If I find it I will pass it on.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
One of the reasons I like the kid. He was not a spoiled hockey star kid. To come from where he did and make it like he did takes a lot of internal emotional strength and character. Cant teach that stuff.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Here it is…courtesy of Dig Deep in a prior post.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3782270
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Tragic and great story at the same time. There’s something wrong in Anaheim as even Hiller is playing terribly. I really think Ryan gets traded and maybe some others. If Ryan is available and can be had for a reasonable package then I think the Rangers should go for it.
It been beaten to death in other posts and obviously it depends on the package but for kid with that character, size and scoring you would be a moron not to seriously inquire.
Really, imagine the following…
Ryan – Richards – Cally
Krieder – Step – Gabby
Haggs – Anisimov – JT Miller
If that’s not the perfect balance of size, youth, speed, experience, leadership, strength and toughness…I don’t know what is.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
just thinking of that makes me too excited.
by tommydrum33 on Dec 27, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Need a tissue?
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 28, 2011 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, what does this team really need?
We have 1 “hole” in the top 6 that either Dubi, Fedex, Hagelin, or dare I say Wolski can fill … trading “spare parts” for more spare parts seems a little foolish. If you’re thinking only for this season, well why pay a price to log jam JT, Kreider and others to compete for that one spot?
As for dealing our D, I was one that argued for dealing Girardi this summer. That was BEFORE Staals’ concusion situation was discovered. With our current situation, unless Staal is never coming back, and a premier top 4 D-man becomes available, we should hold on to all the prospects we have.
Stay the course. It has worked so far.
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by bleed'n blue on Dec 25, 2011 7:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Shane Doan and Jarome Iginla
Shane Doan- The guy is a solid vet in this league who would fit perfectly in our system. I feel that he is an older version of Eric Staal. He’s on the last year of his deal and hasn’t won a cup yet let alone get into the second round so maybe he wants to have a shot at that. Plus Slats is good buddies with Maloney.
Jarome Iginla- He will cost some prospects and first rounders. But it’s worth it to look into this kind of deal. The Rangers would be an extremely deadly team with Iggy and definitely would be great in Tort’s system.
I would suggest waiting until the trade deadline with both these guys so their cap hits are half of what they are.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Dec 25, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions
Iginla would cost waaaayy to much. Not worth it IMO.
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I have a feeling we might be calling about Doan.
I think after a few more games against Philly and Boston we should see where our holes are. Have we even played Boston yet? I’m curious on how we match up this year.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Dec 26, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
We haven’t played Boston yet, we don’t face them until Jan 21st. That game will be a good measuring stick to see what this team is really made of. Would absolutely love to see a Doan or an Iginla in a blue sweater. Although I have to agree with Moshe he will be worth way to much and not worth it, i’d say we could have a pretty good shot at landing Doan.
i say keep the phones open and listen to offers but...
don’t go nuts looking for a vet d-man, let our kids grow and play. They’ve earned they’re up to the challenge. Also try to trade our “scraps” (basically what you listed above) for some picks or for some prospects. This team needs another scorer but i don’t think they’ll find anything by trade now…maybe sather can use some of his crazy jedi skills and steal a player like jeff carter or bobby ryan
Petrell
I actually wouldn’t mind us going for Petrell.. he should be dirt cheap and he is a playoff type player. Big, strong, loves to jam in the front of the net..
Heart and soul kind of guy.
He is a fringe player though so whatever..
Yeah, if we’re going to get someone from the Oilers, it should be Paajarvi or Omark.
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by George E. Ays on Dec 28, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
He’s out with an ankle injury, I don’t believe it was serious. That’d make the cost cheaper anyway :-)
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by George E. Ays on Dec 28, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
oh, ok, when I first heard it, it sounded like he would be out for most of the season. I agree with you, he would really add skill to the team. he was in street clothes even before the injury with all the young forwards there.
by Richter1994 on Dec 28, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
That’s true, George. That’s a kid I’d be looking to deal for.
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