The Flyers have placed Niky Zherdev on waivers. I think everybody here knows my opinion so I'll spare everyone another post outlining why.
Should the Rangers claim Zherdev (or Craig Rivet)?
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For lack of a better word
Yes
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions
snag him. hes free. all we do is complain about no skill on this team.
we would be stupid not to jump on this.
ZHERDEV > NEWBURY.
plain and simple.
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At this point, there’s almost no reason not to try and claim him. Expiring contract, Gaborik is lost for who knows how long, and there’s really no better options. Pick him up, put him together with Prospal and EC, and hope they find a way (they’re gonna be poor defensively though…) or have Prospal/Boyle/Zherdev so they have a little toughness and better defense and then have Aves/EC/Prust as the 4th line (don’t like splitting up Boyle/Prust, but Prust could use fewer minutes for a while considering how banged up he is).
No thanks on Rivet, unless there’s evidence Staal is hurt long-term.
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What could it hurt, he has an expiring contract we have the cap space and we need goal scoring. I know he does not mesh with Torts but maybe he could light a fire under his ass who knows its worth a shot. And if he doesn’t work out well sit him in the press box or whatever. the only drawback I could see happening is that Z could bring a bad attitude into the locker room and the whole team concept goes to shit but I dont think that would happen so, why not bring Zherdev back. Plus I would be cool to use my Zherdev jersey and actually have him on the team lol.
while thinking about this a lot today
I’ve persuaded myself to say that we could use Zherdev a lot more than we could use some other players that are out there…he’s got the skill that we all need and if we could put him on a line with stepan and zucc who would do the gritty work to get him the puck and besides he’s cheap and wont cost us pick/prospects
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I was thinking if we did claim him maybe set up the lines like so:
Dubi/AA/Cally
Wolski/Stepan/MZA
Avery/Prospal/Zherdev
NewB/Boyle/Prust
It’d kind of look like a poor man’s Flyers, rolling three lines with two-way capabilities and no strictly “defensive” third line. There are worse ideas in the world.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Feb 23, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I like those lines a lot…zherdev won’t be forced to play out of his comfort area
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Yea I do remember Dubinsky and Z having some good chemistry back in the day so maybe you could switch Cally and him, but I am not exactly a fan of tinkering with what is working.
neither am i, that’s why i was hesitant at first because i wouldnt know where he would fit and i didnt want to break apart any of our better lines
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speaking of people getting waived....
The Buffalo Sabres placed captain Craig Rivet(notes) on waivers on Wednesday in a bid to clear their books of a defenseman who has spent much of the season struggling to get playing time.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AjwhQPMbhlcVAXKqbuztmy17vLYF?slug=ap-sabres-rivetwaived
so if the Sabres can waive their capitan, why cant we?
i mean obviously Dru is in a slightly different situation…and Rivet is making half the money that Dru is (3.5m)…but why don’t we have the balls to do it….
who knows, maybe now that he’s injured it doesnt matter much…does his NMC factor into being able to waive him? Technically we’re not actually moving him if we waive him, are we?
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 23, 2011 5:09 PM EST reply actions
well his NMC keeps him from being demoted but idk if that means he cant be waived.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 23, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
what the crazyrangerfan said.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
wow a lot has changed in a few days.
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i think
after Gaborik went down with his concussion people gave up their past grudges
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if people can look past the name
and realize the situation, its not the worst idea in the world. especially now that hes on waivers and youre giving up nothing. i dislike zherdev, i think he’s a waste of talent, but right now he has a use.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
that’s the light bulb that went off in my head…only question is his contract one year or two+
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his contract expires this year Im pretty sure
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 23, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
They’re all agreeing to Rivet, they’re just trying to confuse you.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 23, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
damnit.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
haha....
didn’t see the (or Craig Rivet) there when i read that real quickly.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 23, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions
Guess I'm in the minority
I want nothing to do with Zherdev. Been there, done that.
I’m just as frustrated as the rest of you with this team’s inability to score consistently, but I don’t think it’s worth taking on that kind of baggage. Reeks of deperation. And I can’t imagine Tortorella would be too crazy about bringing him on board, especially considering how many times he’s praised the character and “compete-level” of this team.
Inconsistent work-ethic, laziness, defensively indifferent. The guy already wore out his welcome with 3 teams. But whatever, just throwing in my 2 cents.
If he continues with this level perceived level of lethargic play than he can just go sit in the press box; serving as an example to the young kids that we don’t tolerate that type of lackadaisical nonsense.
Can someone tell me
What it would cost to pick him up? Is it half his pro-rated salary for this year?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 23, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions
Full salary, pro-rated based on the number of days left in the season. Roughly 500k, without checking capgeek.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 23, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
It’s his 2 million dollar cap hit (I believe we have close to 10mil in space as of right now) and then whatever money he’s owed.
they'd still have enough space to make more moves. plenty of space.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
via capgeek
http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=623
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all he would do is eat up minutes of a younger more deserving player, and disappear for most of the game, not saying our younger guys are better or will help us win this year but i’d rather find out then waste time on garbage like him, would’ve much rather claimed prucha when he was available
whose minutes?
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Pruchalove…..ugh
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 23, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
pruchalove doesn't die jim, we know this.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
he's playing for the blackhawks.. oh wait.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
…
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i know
i just couldn’t care enough to think of a snappy comeback
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haha...
i think he lead the KHL in goals last season…must mean he’s good…we should get him back!
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
What are those younger guys doing with the minutes
Zherdev was a #4 overall pick, cause he has a skill set like few other players in the world. He doesn’t know how to APPLY it to a winning team all the time, but when he can, he can bring EXACTLY what this team needs. It’s a low risk high-reward situation. Everyone’s concerned he’s going to “hide” again when the going gets tough. I think that’s going to be hard to do. When you watch our team enough, you’ll see most of the good hiding spots have been taken.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 23, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
To me, it’s completely about the “why” more than the “who.”
If we’re claiming him as an offensive ‘savior,’ and planning on giving him 20 minutes a night alongside Dubinsky, hell f-ing no to claiming him.
If we’re claiming him to fill out the bottom of the roster, 8-10 ES minutes a night against Charmin-soft opponents, with some splashes of PP time…I’ve got no issue with it.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 23, 2011 5:20 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
that's why i want to claim him.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
But you know Torts a couple of goals from Nik and he’ll be playing 22 minutes then when he starts to suck again he will scratch him. And so the carousel spins.
charmin-soft opponents……brilliant!
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Well then you have to look at it like this:
For 500K, even though there is a past with this guy, is he not a better option than Lobster Newbury?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 23, 2011 5:25 PM EST reply actions
Trying to be logical I guess
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 23, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
ok mr spock
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Yes but does he have the requisite JAM.
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It comes with flowers!
Which, by the way, have no jam.
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that's Zherdev
some great tasting jam…but a whole lotta flowers that blow away quickly
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Zherdev is more like Diet Coke, pretty good at first but with a shitty after taste, with that said Im ready to give him another shot on the third line this time.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 23, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I guess I would reluctantly claim him too. Very reluctantly.
If he comes here and shows no effort or interest, bench him and scratch him. I think we relied on him too much at the end of his season here and now we wouldnt need to if he were to be same old zherdev
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We already have Zherdev part Deux, only he wears #26 and he actually can score in the shootout. Otherwise they are the same player, once every 10 games they do something dazzles you, and then disappear again. No room for two of those guys. Pass. And Rivet isn’t playing on a team out of the playoffs, why do we want him????
I’m no Zherdev fan, but comparing him to Erik Christensen is like, is like, well its like something
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 23, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
the pot calling the kettle black?
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I am not a fan of either, I would actually like to see them pass on Zherdev and find someone else so they can put EC upstairs.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
idk
I got mixed emotions
I liked Zherdevs talent, hated his attitude and when he disapeared
but he has ALOT of skill and score
I just dont see it happening, Torts hated this dude
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why are we even talking about Alice Kotacowlick?
shits and giggles
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Hmmm
yeah, let’s just claim everyone on waivers.
Why do Ranger fans constantly want to add proven losers
The Rangers need to be dumping, not adding.
The younger the roster is post deadline, the better the Rangers will play.
I agree. This Ranger team has played very well for most of the season without Prospal, Callahan and Dubi’s injury stretch, not to mention Gaborik. Now that Ganorik is out indefinitely, everyone wants to occupy that spot with another no-show talent who already had his shot once before with this club.
Forget about the “he’s practically free, what could it hurt” rationale. You like the black and blue collar identity this team now has. You talk about trades and guys who can and won’t fit, then you want a guy like Zherdev back?? Friggen bunch of flim flammers. lol
Amen. I was wondering the same thing when reading this thread.
I’d rather call up Kotalik than sign an inconsistent overpriced forward waived outright by one of the team’s primary competitors. The same gent who believed in the KHL being his preferred home no less than a year ago.
…and Craig Rivet? Giloy, Eminger > Rivet. Heck, perhaps even Redden > Rivet. The rest of the starting 6 better. What are we thinking, folks?
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kotalik? are you serious?
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Apologies. I mean KOLARIK. (slapping forehead)
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well thats better.
kolarik did some good things in his short stint up here. but he isn’t anywhere near capable of making a big impact.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 24, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
The younger the roster is post deadline, the better the Rangers will play.
Zherdev is younger than both Newbury and Christensen, the two players who’d get the shaft by adding him.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 23, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Kovalev vs. Zherdev
If you had to chose one, who would it be?
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions
go young
take zherdev…basically the same players with the same skillset but zherdev’s legs are younger
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also zherdev comes free…kovalev we’re gonna have to give up picks/prospects/players that we really dont want to
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Does this decision come with a time machine?
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
In all honesty. Yes it would. Unfortunately we don’t have time machine technology.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
I think this means he’s going with Zherdev unless you have a time machine, in which case he would go with Kovalev.
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The facts remain the same
Gaborik is out and we don’t know when or if he’ll be back. The young’ns are good but if we make the playoffs we’re going to need some more scoring, whether it be Kovalev, Zherdev or someone else
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions
since when are the playoffs guarenteed for this team? Why not take a shot, it’s low risk, moderate to potentially high reward
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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Exactly! No guarantees either way. But I can guarantee that Zherdev will be EXACTLY the same player we have all come to dislike. You think it’s coincidence the Flyers placed him on waivers? It upsets chemistry. Not everything has to be a desperation move with this organization. I’ve learned that watching this garbage go on for 30 years with this club. If you suck, throw money at talent, yet here we are with 2 cups in 38 years.
Stand pat, let the rest of the season play out. If you make it you make it. Personally I’d rather put another 20 games of NHL development under a prospects belt than Zherdev.
you can guarantee that?
can i get the weather for december 22nd 2012?
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Nope, can’t guarantee the weather for that date. I CAN guarantee Zherdev would be about as useful as tits on a bull if he donned a Ranger uniform again smartass.
actually tits on a bull
make it a cow…which makes it actually pretty useful
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Newbury is still going to get time
they’re completely different players. Zherdev would take third line ice time, Newbury remains on the fourth. Taking a chance on Newbury doesnt have anywhere near the potential as taking a riskless chance on zherdev.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone was bad in the playoffs then
I don’t see you condemning Callahan for scoring a moderate two goals or Lundqvist for having a pedestrian .908 saving percentage
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Who cares if Zherdev is lazy?
If he can dominate on the 4th line, what is the downside to replacing Kris Newbury? So what if he doesn’t have to work as hard to score goals… he still scores those goals
exactly. let him play on the 3rd line with avery and prospal.
hes cheap, comes free, we can give him weak mins.. let him do his thing..
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Zherdev
I see the argument, that he comes cheap on cap hit, nothing in players or picks, and has an expiring contract, and can this PP really not use a guy with those tools dishing and shooting the puck? That PP can’t get any worse, and can use a selfish shooter. I am just having flashbacks to the end of that season where Torts was pulling his hair out with him.
Only if he shaves that nasty she-male mustache
I’d prefer they try and go KHL route, maybe Maxim Afinegenov. Put up good points in ATL last year. Not sure if he’d clear waivers with douche bag Snow on the prowl, but where’s the downside to trying.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Feb 23, 2011 6:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Snow probably claimed Zherdev
And everybody else on waivers
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
No!!
Zherdev is one lazy player that can screw up the hard work others put in. Think he enters the zone…dangles the puck…. loses the puck… goes back half as fast as he did to play D and forcheck…Rangers give up a goal on the play… Everyone in here needs a memory check…
Yeah
But his +/- is always good and he’s a scoring threat, something we need….Internal conflict, don’t mind me.
Maybe he can teach some of our kids to dangle
We need that. We’re so worried about “jam” we forget what skill means.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 23, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Three things you should never pay for
Water, sex and Zherdev, because they all come free
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 6:24 PM EST reply actions
I wasn’t too keen on the idea of trading for Zherdev because I didn’t like the idea of giving something up for him… and I didn’t think it was in any way possible that the Flyers would do a trade with us, especially when both teams are in the playoff hunt. The other factor being how high the market price is… but this is a moot point now that he is on waivers.
I was also critical because Zherdev and Torts didn’t exactly ‘mesh’ well. Zherdev’s play and attitude fits into Torts’ system like a… well it just doesn’t work well, and there is evidence of it from their time together here.
That being said if we can pick him up on waivers, play him in a limited role (Powerplay, 3rd line) against soft competition I see no reason not to go for it. We need a little more skill injected into the lineup and if this falls into our lap there is no reason why we shouldn’t do it. The rewards outweigh the risks now, no reason why the Rangers shouldn’t roll the proverbial dice on this one.
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well....
the flyers aren’t exactly in a hunt for anything right now at first in the conference 7 pts up on TB…
anyhow, regarding zherdev….if he’s going to play 3rd or 4th line against a bunch of scrubs he could be real dangerous especially if we have anyone that can make playes playing with him….maybe avery……even prust has had some great setups this season off the usual hard forecheck or w/e.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
interesting tweet...let the speculation run rampant
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Oh lawd! Let the rumors begin again.
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evander kane for sullivan and a used jock
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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Kane for White and Boogaard.
what? its Sather we are talking about. We got Atl to take Rissmiller and Brashear already.
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Feb 23, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
done
signed, sealed and delivered
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
okay...
dustin byfuglien and tobias enstrom for matt gilroy and michael del zotto….STRAIGHT UP.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
According to Chris Broussard
The New York Rangers are expected to be major players at the deadline. Sather has been talking about possible deals with the Senators, Panthers, Sabres and Maple Leafs
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 6:45 PM EST reply actions
chris broussard? the espn guy?
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
That's him
He’s got some of the best sources in sports, so I trust him
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
this guy?
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"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot" Evgeny Nabakov on Garth Snow
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Isnt that Woody Paige?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Feb 23, 2011 6:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nope
its chris broussard
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Isn't that Woody Paige?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Feb 23, 2011 6:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's the NBA guy.
guess ESPN is really cutting corners these days.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN will bring hockey back in 2012 after VS deal expires. Hopefully they get rid of Melrose and Barnaby, they are atrocious in my book. Would love to see Chris Drury and Wade Redden making their NHL Analyst debuts on Hockey Night in 2012.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Feb 23, 2011 7:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We’ve heard about Kuba (Sens) and McCabe (Panthers). Who do you suppose they’re looking at on the Sabres and Leafs?
Sabres (Connolly?); Leafs (Defenseman, Clarke McArthur sp?)
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Broussard?
Unless the Rangers are becoming major players at the NBA trade deadline, you got the wrong guy.
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HMMM…more rumors….
Senators: Spezza?
Panthers: Booth?
Sabres: hmmm this is harder….Vanek? Stafford?
Leafs: McArthur? Kessel?
anyways…all those guys for Matt Gilroy and EC
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
oh yeah...
of course McCabe on the panthers as well….oh and that fan with the nice tits.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
To those of you endorsing Zherdev Part Deux
Your like school boys hot for their ex-girlfriend when she wears a low cut top or shakes her ass. You forget that the relationship was mostly horrible and she left you with crabs, with the exception of two or three minutes when you played “just the tip”. You also conveniently forget that up until yesterday she was banging your worst enemy and he got rid of her because it wasn’t that good. Seriously, move on people. (As a disclaimer to the thought police, you can substitute the ex-girlfriend for ex-boyfriend or make this a same sex couple, just trying to show parallel in human nature, not denigrate anyone/thing).
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Feb 23, 2011 6:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think you
only denigrated yourself with that allusion.
Zherdev is a human being, not the embodiment of evil folks
everyone is now dumber for reading this. i award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Feb 24, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
well...
this almost makes pretty good sense…haha.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
My fan emotions tell me
To pass on Zherdev, been there done that with him and it didnt end well. But for all the complaints of his last stint here, his reputation for loafing it and the idea that he doesn’t fit with the “new grinding identity” I look at the Rangers offense for the last 20 or so games and think the “new identity” is basically producing the same results results right now as the old non-identified teams of the recent seasons. And “right now” is the operative term, Zherdev shouldn’t be anything more than a solution for “right now”. So, what the hell if he’s unclaimed might as well take him. Would people rather see them sending assets of any kind to get McCabe who’d be playing a role of giving the offense and PP a shot in the arm?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 23, 2011 6:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No No No No No No No....
……….NO. We don’t need other teams’ cast-offs. Christensen and Eminger are quite enough thank you. U know what Zherdev’s most famous offensive weapon is? Its disappearing for weeks at a stretch. If he can’t succeed on the deepest, most successful reg season team in the league what makes you think he will make a lick of difference back in NY? He’s an unengaged floater who occasionally strikes but is mostly useless.
PASS.
I wonder why the flyers placed him on waivers
and didn’t trade him?
He’s an absolute trading material considering his talent and the length of his contract. A 3rd rounder at least? C’mon.
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Flyers GM told the media that Zherdev and his agent weren’t happy about Zherdev’s situation with the Flyers(being a perpetual scratch every game specially when they got Versteeg) so they wanted out but no other teams were willing to give up any assets for him…
I don’t understand why people fail to see what an unnecessary mistake this move would be to try and get him …
He didn’t work out the first time, he performed this season as he performed for our team when he was here … he was good for the Flyers up until Christmas and then has disappeared just like he disappeared for us when the going got tough and the games are now more of a grind … he cannot help us no matter how talented he is because he’s not the type of player that will battle through games at this time of year and because of that he will fail … “But stick him in the press box or waive him” if he’s claimed off waivers he cannot be waived again this season by our team, he has to remain on the club from what I understand with the rules and he was already unhappy in Philly and wanting out of there because he was being scratched so WHY would you bring in a player that has shown he cannot help you during this time of year who will be a negative presence on the team if he’s scratched instead of a good teammate because he won’t be happy?
This team, as flawed as it is, plays a hard, gritty game and they almost never give up … Zherdev has nothing that will mesh with the team the way it’s constructed … I really liked him when he was here but after I saw what he didn’t do once the Calendar turned to February I have no desire to ever see him wearing Ranger blue again
by Claudia Matty Pepin on Feb 23, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
One thing
I don’t really want to add Zherdev but if we end up in the 8th spot and play #1 Flyers or face the Flyers in round 2 it could be good to have him if he will play extra hard against the team that waived him
by bcranger21 on Feb 23, 2011 7:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Chris Broussard reports
The Stars have inquired about the availability of some the Rangers younger players including Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinksy, Michael Del Zotto, Artem Anisimov, Derek Stepan and Evgeny Grachev. At least two of those players would have to be included in a potential Brad Richards blockbuster trade, Broussard’s sources say
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 9:16 PM EST reply actions
link?
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Again
Broussard is a basketball man. Do you mean Buccigross? (Probably spelled wrong) If not, I doubt those are real rumors.
Also, Richards isn’t getting traded.
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Another Broussard post
“Broussard reports that some role players including Matt Gilroy, Steve Eminger and Vinny Prospal could also be included in the deal. It is now come to attention that it may take only one of the Rangers young stars to get the deal done”
Man the rumors are heating up, can’t wait to see what happens
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 9:52 PM EST reply actions
link or its not true
This smells of eklund, and to use dig’s phrase, “his ilk”
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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 9:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
link?
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t have one, but that’s what those kinds of rumors sound like
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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This isn’t true …
- because Broussard is an ESPN NBA analyst, he knows nothing about Hockey and as such wouldn’t report anything about Hockey … if you go to his ESPN page there is only NBA stuff there …
In any case Brooks already reported that teams were asking the Rangers for Callahan, Dubinsky, Stepan, MDZ, Staal, Girardi, ect when it comes to trades … and that the Rangers are unwilling to part with their young core … specially for a player, Richards, who can be had for only money in the summer … getting Richards now will not make the Rangers into a Stanley Cup contender this season so it would make little sense for them to give up valuable young core players for him …
by Claudia Matty Pepin on Feb 23, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
He is mostly known for his NBA work
But he does do NHL stuff on occasion
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
show me a link where he’s done NHL work … there is nothing on ESPN or online that show him doing any NHL work … unless I have missed it but there is nothing …
by Claudia Matty Pepin on Feb 23, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
U Better Recognize
Broussard has written about all of the major sports, I don’t know if your familiar with his work, but he is a very reliable source
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
again, where’s the link to his work on the NHL?
by Claudia Matty Pepin on Feb 23, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Can't you just take my word for it
Besides, what is a link gonna prove anyway?
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
link wont prove anything.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
They're not on any website yet
I’m getting text messages from my sources
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Now that’s credible
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by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please stop hurling insults my way
I know you hate both myself and Kovalev but there is really no reason to attack me like you just did. I really though we buried the hatchet a few weeks back
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
You’re reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much into that…it wasn’t an attack, it was a sarcastic reply that was borne from hearing one too many similar trade rumors these past few days and its been a bit grating
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 10:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I knew you'd understand
Like I said before, I don’t mean everything I say, just having some fun is all
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes
You push your jokes and stuff a bit far…but I guess its my fault for taking it seriously
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
C'mon, when haveI ever went to far
Don’t let my Kovalev wishes get to you, it’s just something I feel strongly about
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think as seen above and below
Any rumors surrounding the rangers and trades get people riled up and wen u put that rumor out there people are gonna want answers
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Once you see Chris Broussard, you know it's a joke
Though all of us know that the Stars are most likely going to want at least one of our young’ns in a Richards trade
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 23, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I should have, but I didn’t
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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 11:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah...
im gonna have to say i saw that sarcasm all the way….but maybe cuz im good at catching it….since i generally tend to be so myself.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
+100
i loled a bit…
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
And again
Broussard is a basketball guy. Back it up with a link.
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND.........................................no.
This would be so stupid. Zherdev’s brand of lackluster, disappearing act hockey has no place on Broadway. Maybe back in the grim forgettable late nineties, early 00’s but not in the Era of Tort Reform.
Why poison our hardworking lineup with this floating, perimeter playing waste of a good hockey player?!
As I’ve stated earlier, I’d rather see us fall out of the playoff race than sign somebody like Zherdev.
And……….why is anyone thinking the Rangers could be dumb enough to trade away our assets for a guy shelved with a concussion whose starting the downslide of his career?
I hope that last tidbit is Eklund nonsense and not something Glen is trying to cook up.
There is little to no risk in signing Zherdev
What are we giving up?
Prospects? No
Picks? No
Players? No
If he doesn’t work you stick him in the pressbox and ride out the end of the contract
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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, stick him in the pressbox so he can be a negative influence on the team because he will be unhappy just as he was in Philly which prompted him and his agent to ask for a trade … our team doesn’t need that because Zherdev has proven that down the stretch he disappears and that’s where our team is at so he cannot and would not help us
by Claudia Matty Pepin on Feb 23, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are underestimating the personalities on this team
If you think that one winger picked up on waivers could destroy all of the chemistry that this team already has. Its not like he’ll be looked upon as some kind of savior, Z would be adding much needed scoring depth at a very reasonable discount. I don’t think its fair to compare the team he was on in 08-09 to this year because they are two different teams, with different mentalities. On that team he was expected to be our number one goal scorer and he couldn’t take the pressure, now he’d be asked to suppliment the goal scoring
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by Kevin Power on Feb 23, 2011 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
these guys are professionals
one guy being a baby being stuck in the press box with no significance changes nothing.
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by John Merrigan on Feb 23, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
You lost me at
I’d rather see us fall out of the playoff race than sign somebody like Zherdev
That’s just a silly comment.
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……okay that was a little over the top…..you’re right I wouldn’t wish to miss the playoffs. I just don’t want any bandaids to take ice time away from developing kids.
Sure Zherdev wouldn’t destroy the team chemistry; its just….why put players on the ice who only give a spotty effort at best?
And whoever said, well if he doesn’t score he’ll fit right in needs to rethink that: here’s why. Brandon Prust goes eight games without a point. Okay, but during that stretch he’s a) hit everything in sight b) fought when its needed c) been a great locker room presence d) played smart good defensive hockey and d) killed penalties like a motherf**ker.
Same stretch for Zherdev: no points in a X amount of games, what ELSE is he giving you? Nothing, that’s what.
And that is just something we do NOT need in our lineup.
I’ll say it again: if he couldn’t find a niche playing with Briere, Richards, Giroux, Carter, Pronger, Timmonen, Leino, and whatever other talented bastards lurk in that awful orange and black uniform, he isn’t going to find one on the Rangers.
He’s a complete waste.
by KingHenrik30 on Feb 24, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Zherdev Fun Facts
The only player to score more goals then him, since Z left Broadway, was Gabby last year.
Zherdev put up 23 goals next to his +6. He’s not the liability he gets made out to be. The worst thing that can happen if we pick him up, is he doesn’t score. If thats the case, he’ll fit right in. It’s worth taking a chance on. We need what he can bring BADLY.
What sounds like a more likely scenerio for a playoff run
Zherdev catches fire, and we ride his scoring to some wins through the first, maybe even second round ….
OR
We stick with what we have we get through two rounds of playoff hockey with no scoring, and through 3rd period comebacks….
Being able to comeback in the 3rd is good. Trying to win a series with 4 third period comebacks seems like a stretch.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 23, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Zherdev catches fire……..
……..because Torts douses him in lighter fluid, calls his buddy Arnold (Gov. of California), who reprises a scene from “Running Man”, as he tosses a lit flare at the combustible soaked Niki in a corner of the locker room and says
“Need a light ?”
ahahah....
+1
this thread is really turning into a real “laugh-fest”….
good job guys….really getting me throught he work day…..despite several outbreaks of laughter in a pretty damn quiet office right now.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Feb 24, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Unless the ONLY skill guys we bring in are Richards, Lecavlier, and St. Louis, Torts will have a problem with them
As I’ve said before, Torts has some inner issues to work out. He needs be brought back to earth a little bit. If Zherdev came in and didn’t do anything, nothing is lost, if he can add some goals, and get back chemistry with Dubi, we get the goals we need AND Torts gets a reminder that you can win with guys who aren’t just full of “jam”
by BuckarooClub on Feb 24, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Think you've got the wrong guy that needs an attitude adjusment.
Not one GM claimed him off waivers. So – it’s not the guy who’s being tossed around as a possible Adams candidate. It’s the player…
Just sayin’…
Torts would be an AWESOME ECHL coach
He can preach his “jam” and conditioning, which is mostly what he knows. Take late round picks and turn them into NHL roll players down there. He’d be the best. He doesn’t seem to relate to skill players. It’s one thing to expect them to cover on D and stuff, but I don’t think he knows how to use them. People point to guys like Richards and Lecavlier in Tampa, but I don’t think it’s as much a case of him making them, as THEM being awesome and brining him along for the ride. Torts was a dick to the media guys last year, then it seems like he got a talking to in the offseason, and has been a bit more relaxed, and they all commented on that in the beginning of the season.
Torts hasn’t shown a real embrace or understanding of any of our skill guys, he just wants to break them into guys who play his game. Torts is starting to look like he could be the new Roger Nielsen – A guy who can turn ANY team into a .500 team.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 25, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
For all the Torts for the Jack Adams talk
We’re not really anywhere different this year then last year. Our safety net has come from team like NJ and Buffalo having tough starts then us establishing ourselves.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 25, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I submit the following:
1 – When Niki won his arbitration hearing, Darth Sather breathed heavily into his mask, and declared that he would walk away. And he did.
2 – During that entire free agency summer period, nobody bit on Zherdev. Not one NHL GM or team. Zero. None. If he was THAT good, wouldn’t SOMEBODY have taken a flier on this guy ?
Answer: Nope.
3 – Zherdev and his ridiculous agent(s) head for the KHL, where he posts a positively mediocre season. If he had all THAT TALENT, shouldn’t he have positively dominated and posted record numbers??
Ooops – not so much.
4 – The Flyers take a flier on him, at a significantly reduced price (roughly 1/2 that arb. award of only 1 year earlier. And now he’s a healthy scratch for how many games in a row?? And he and his agent are “unhappy with his situation” ? He didn’t deliver on a consistent basis, showed the same attributes that landed him completely out of the NHL for a year, and he’s unhappy?? YGBFKM
I don’t think it matters how much people think the NYR “need” him. Sather doesn’t. And he won’t. That bus left the station 2 years ago with bad feelings all around. It got a thousand miles away and ran off a steep cliff.
No more Broadway Sequels. Sorry.
Your pretty much probably right, even I would like to see Z come back. Talent is sexy, and Z is that sexy girl that has all the looks in the world but is the biggest most cold hearted bitch ever.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 24, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
you just wanted to say ‘the flyers take a flier’ didn’t you hahaha
incidentally i agree and don’t think we should bring him in
however, since we wouldn’t be giving anything up, i wouldn’t be too mad if we did
at least he would stop scoring goals against us every single frickin time we play against him
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 24, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
+1 year and 2 million
I don’t want this guy anywhere near our young guys and our team chemistry. I know our locker room is strong right now, but there’s no real good that can come of adding his personality into the mix.
I’m much more focused on the long-term growth of this team, and less concerned about how many goals Zherdev might add to our playoff push.
I’d prefer this team to battle with what they have. It’ll only make them stronger as a group.
Zherdev got along great with everyone his first time here.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 24, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Well, except Tortorella.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 24, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Who does get along with Torts?
I’m just saying, it wasn’t a case of him being a guy who no one liked. He shouldn’t screw up any chemistry. If anything, I think that he might bring out the skill game in some of the guys we need to step up.
by BuckarooClub on Feb 24, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
yea, but didn’t he drink himself stupid on off nights? I heard rumors about his partying and don’t really want him around guys like AA.
Besides, this is a different team now – its’ clearly Torts’ team – he has reshaped it’s identity. I refuse to believe that the relationships would be exactly the same as they were two years ago.
I just don’t see the benefit the way others do… He’s not going to replace Newbury in the 4th line checking role; a young guy is going to lose minutes over him. When looking towards the long-term goals of the team, he doesn’t fit. We’re not winning the Cup this year, so unless we’re getting a piece for the future, I think we should stand pat.
In my opinion, the benefits of letting this team fight and grow together, as is, down the stretch, outweighs the benefits of bringing on Zherdev as a rental.
My sources are telling me that.....
Chris Brousard is tweeting that James Dolan had a sitdown with Carmelo Anthony and he will be suiting up for the Rangers and will play left wing. He also reports that Albert Pujols is open to a trade to the New York Rangers and has no problem becoming an enforcer on the 4th line so we can protect Prust and keep him out of fights.
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by RangerFan5 on Feb 24, 2011 1:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Buster Olney is.....
Reporting that Andy Pettitte will come out of retirement and will sign on with the New York Rangers and play left defense. This is great news if it is true. We can use a vet to coach our young dmen like del zotto and sauer.. Hope this is legit.
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by RangerFan5 on Feb 24, 2011 1:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if del zotto can learn to shoot with the accuracy and movement of pettitte’s cutter we will never lose
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 24, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think we can find someone else to healthy scratch night in and out
shit I can scratch myself and be more productive.
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