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Offseason Plans Excluding Richards

So the big news coming out of today is obviously that the Rangers may not be permitted to buy out Chris Drury due to his old man knee. The importance of that is obviously the $7.05 mil cap hit we'd take as a result. And with Glen Sather and the franchise cash strapped and already trying to navigate a payroll, this is quickly turning into a potential mess. But I'm not here to speculate about if we are going to be permitted to buy Drury out, and how this would affect the team's pursuit of Richards. Instead, here are some other options (cheaper) that I think the Rangers can explore this off season.

 

Some people have already speculated about this guy, but Patrick Sharp seems to be on the market with Chicago looking to clear cap. I have read that some people feel that Sharp is not the explosive offensive player that would fix our offense, and I completely agree, BUT, I think Sharp would be a great piece to add. I think he could do great on a line with Stepan, and could really give Derek a great option on the wing. Or, maybe he centers a line of Gaborik, and the Rangers chase a guy like Brad Boyes in 2012 to add some grit to that kind of line, and it turns into a two-year project. Sharp is certainly an offensive talent, and a guy that has never been asked to be a top scorer in his career. That being said, given the opportunity, who knows what he is capable of producing? If the asking price for Sharp is not too high (and personally, I'm willing to part with two young defensemen and a pick) I think Sharp could be part of the solution for the Rangers' offense. 

 

Reports have come out of New Jersey recently (I think some of you know where this is going) that the Devils and Zach Parise are destined for an arbitration hearing. Parise is endeared by the Devils fans, but with Kovalchuk eating up a large chunk of the annual cap for the Devils, there's a chance Parise might command to much money for the Devils to keep him. That is not to say his price tag might not be too lofty for the Rangers. But it will be interesting to see the type of money he could ask for coming off injury. When he's healthy, some consider Parise to be a top 5 scorer in the league. But then again, there's no telling how he will come back post-injury. However, if he plays up to the level Rangers' fans know he can, Zach can certainly help out any offense. And, if he goes to arbitration, and his asking price is too high for the Devils, but low enough for the Rangers, I would love to see Sather take a run at him. I might be playing with fire he, but a line of Gaborik - Stepan - Parise would have to put up big numbers, right?

 

I'm going to stay in the Atlantic Division, and take a look at the Flyers. The Flyers have two players on its roster (one is an unrestricted free agent, and an old friend, the other is under contract) that could be good fits for the Rangers. The first player as many of you may have already guessed is Nikolay Zherdev. The latter is Kris Versteeg. Zherdev returned to the NHL this year and showed why the Rnagers plucked him from Columbus; his offensive ability. Zherdev scored 16 goals in 52 games and was an offensive spark for the Flyers. Philly obviously plays a very different brand of hockey than the Rangers, and it's possible that it better suits Zherdev than Tort's system. But, if Zherdev can continue that kind of scoring touch next season, I see no problem signing him (for a small price) and plugging him on the third line with Stepan and Wolski, or something to that effect. Now Versteeg is the more interesting case. There have been rumblings from the Flyers camp that the team is looking to move a forward to clear some cap to sign the newly acquire Ilya Bryzgalov. While some have speculated Jeff Carter may be moved, I highly doubt Philly would do that. Instead, Kris Versteeg, who was acquired in a mid season trade, and makes about $3 mil per, is a more realistic candidate. Versteeg is a bump-and-grind forward who has recorded 20+ goals his last three seasons, and a good power play forward. Is Versteeg the fix for our offense? Not by himself, but he's certainly a player that could help the Rangers. As for who we send to Philly, I heard Pennsylvania is big on geese from New York, so many we can ship a few birds for the winger. But seriously, I have no clue who Philly would ask for in a trade, but it's an interesting possibility.

 

I don't know if Richards is the answer, but any of these aforementioned players could certainly help out the club. And don't discount what we already have people. This is a (very) young team that is still learning and growing, that battled through injury last season, that still made the playoffs, and was competitive with the number one seed. These players will continue to grow, and help is on the way in the system. It could be small, strategical moves in free agency to solidify the little things that could put us over the top.

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Versteeg would be perfect for the Boyle-Prust line, but now that Hagelin is in the system, he can fill that role… Hagelin might be as good defensively, and will certainly be cheaper.

I don’t think Zherdev has a role on the Rangers so long as Tortorella is coach. I liked him though.

Hopefully Parise takes a one year deal, then looks toward unrestricted free agency next offseason. Of course he’d have to want to sign with the Rangers, but they can deal that if/ when the time comes.

Sharp is an awesome player. I don’t think the Blackhawks will trade him this year. They’ll probably look to extend him during the season for 3-4 years at $5-6 million per. They’ll have their core locked up again, and have to do something about filling out the rest of the roster. It was a bad move matching Hjalmarsson’s offer sheet. Anyways, I’d be all for getting Sharp, but the Rangers would have to figure out a way to ensure that he re-signs with them.

I would like Boyes on the Rangers, but he needs a center to be successful…. , and I think Sharp is better on the wing I think that’s why Boyes’s past two seasons with the Blues were so underwhelming… they had wingers playing center, and neither he nor Backes were getting the puck where they needed it. At this point, the Rangers don’t have a center to put him in position to score. If Boyes is smart, he’d stay with Buffalo to play with Roy and Vanek. That’s a sick top line.

by Hoggo on Jun 18, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

The only players I would trade for at this point is Statsny and Weber (who will be off the market soon). Trading for Sharp will cost a boatload of players and I don’t think he’s worth depleting the roster for. Richards is still in play regardless of the Drury debacle and he makes the most sense because the rest of the team stays intact. Zherdev, NO!! Parise? He’ll be in NJ. Adding to the roster via FAs like Richards and Jussi is the way to go or just don’t do anything unless you can pry Statsny away without having to fully deplete the roster to get him.

by Richter1994 on Jun 18, 2011 5:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I know Weber is awesome but do we need another defenseman? And does he come in and take the #1 status away from Staal? That won’t sit well. i think the Rangers should look inro Stastny in a serious manner. And soon because the 1st round pick would be going back in the deal….among other players.

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by earthworm on Jun 18, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

When talking about Weber, we can’t just say “another” defenseman. He’s easily one of the best in the league, offensively and defensively. Either way, if we get him, we could trade away some of our defense to get some offensive pieces back.

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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 18, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weber is arguably one of the best 5 players in the league but it appears he will be locked up soon so the point is moot. Statsny on the other hand may be available as the Avs are building around Duchene and now Johnson (as they got fleeced by the Blues, lol).

by Richter1994 on Jun 18, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, I just see the potential to what we currently have and don’t want to rock the boat.

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by earthworm on Jun 18, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m ok with what you just said and that’s why I want Richards because it is (big) addition without player subtraction. It is almost imperative we get him here even if it costs Gaby’s contract (5 years @ $7.5M per). Did I say imperative? lol. Richards makes them better 5 on 5, wakes up the PP, and allows the other players to play on lines that fit their talents. While the Rangers should not bid against themselves (been there, done that), they should do what they can to get him here.

by Richter1994 on Jun 19, 2011 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we trade for Weber, Staal might be in that package.

Having a 1st pair of Weber-Staal could easily be best in the league though.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jun 18, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do really like Stastny, but I’m a little concerned about his asking price. And Weber? I absolutely love him as a player, but it would take quite the package to pry him away, and, considering how strong our defense is, I don’t know if its worth it. Also, do you then put Weber in a pairing with Staal, and create the super-ultimate shutdown unit, or do you break them up, and try to balance out your system?

And also, I don’t think a deal with Sharp will necessarily deplete our system. A deal of maybe Valatenko, Grachev, MDZ and a pick could do it.

by callahanisgod on Jun 18, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

After getting Erixon we certainly don’t need to shake up our D but hey if you can get Weber you do it. I proposed it mid-season with the thinking that Nashville may struggle to pay him and we have a lot of D to give them but also their winning a playoff series this yr gives them more $. My brother just graduated from Vandy and said that town, Smashville, was really into their run too.

On Parise I think it’s doubtful he ever winds up with us. Just looked at the Devils cap and after this yr they Rolston, Brodeur, Colin White and Salvador all coming off the books and while White and Brodeur will probably remain, they will be the same price and cheaper respectively i would guess. Either way the Devils r gonna have to fill out their team with good prospects in the future and maybe use Elias’ money on some FAs but they can have Parise and Kovy and build around, although success may be hard to come by. Thatll be fun to watch :)

Stastny is interesting, see what the price is and who they draft this yr as someone aptly pointed out if it’s RNH stastny is even more available…

by bwl1 on Jun 19, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

off season plans

nice original post, however, I see some issues with some of the players you noted.

 I would love Zach Parise on the Rangers and would give up vitually any player on our roster to get him (maybe aside from Hank and a few others), however, the issue with Parise is the same issue with acquiring Jeff Carter – namely that the Devils and Flyers would never trade one of their best players to a divisional rival, the NY Rangers. Those type of trades with that magnitude of players simply does not happen within a division, let alone a conference usually. Do you think the Devs or Flyers would try to help their rivals, the Rangers by trading some of their best players (Parise/Carter) to the hated Rangers? Do you think the Rangers want to send some of their franchise players (think Hank, Cally, Stepan, Staal, McDonagh, etc – cause at least one or more of these players would have to be involved in the deal), or combo of those players to either team and risk seeing them flourish for the rival Flyers or Devs? Not a chance in hell.

When was the last time the Rangers made a significant trade with either of those teams? The last significant trade with the Flyers that I can remember was the Lindros trade which was completed in August of 2001, yeah that was 10 years ago this August!. And remember at the time Lindros was damaged goods coming over from the Flyers who basically could dictate the terms of the deal and were probably confident that his concusion injuries would prevent him from having that much more of a lasting and impactful career in the NHL and for the Rangers (which they were completely right about). And to be honest, I can’t even remember the last time the Rangers consumated a deal of any significance with the NJ Devils.

Given what was noted about about trading within our division, let alone our conference, if it comes to Sather looking to fill a need at center or anyplace significant via the trade ruote, he would most likely try to pull off a trade with a Western Conference team (remember our favorite trading partners – Don Maloney and the Phoenix Coyotes? If we accept that fact, then we would have to assume of the players named in the original post, that Stastny and Sharp would be more likely trade options for Sather instead of Parise or Carter, if we are talking about those 4 players primarily.

As for Parise, the NJ Devils elected to take him for arbitration this summer, as it protects him from being able to sign an offer sheet from another club. It also likely means that it buys the Devils one more year with Parise, one to evaluate how he responds after a major knee surgey from last year. It is also one year in which they would hope to use to get him signed to a contract so that he does not make it to July 1, 2012 and become a UFA. If they can’t sign him during the year next season, the Devils could at least trade him at the deadline to try to load up with prospects and picks. Therefore, the best scenario for the Rangers would be for the Devils to take Parise to arbitration, they then agree to the 1 yr deal from the arbitrator, Parise plays this upcoming year but does not come to terms with the Devils and he hits the open market on July 1, 2012 as an unrestricted free agent who would be able to choose which team he wants to sign with for boatlaods of cash, and you better bet the Ranges would be sitting there waiting with a blank check to get him on the Blueshirts.

Let’s look at Stastny. The Avs are a young up and coming team who, two seasons ago had low expectations under a new GM and a new young coach, Joe Sacco. Yet they surprised everyone in the league as players like Stastny, Matt Duschene, Craig Anderson in goal, Anthony Stewart, TJ Galiardi, etc, had breakout years. The team made the playoffs that year. Last year didn’t go as well for the Avs, but they still have a strong young team, now with Erik Johnson on defense. I would think that Stastny fits into their plans in Colorado and I don’t see a reason they would be looking to trade him.

In addition, I believe when we think of Stastny on Colorado, we probably think he is one of the top 2 or 3 players on their team, if not THE top player. Let us first note that since coming into the league in the ‘05-’06 season, Stastny has been often injured and has, in fact, only played 2 full seasons of 82 games in that time span, which were the ‘06-’07 and ‘09-’10 seasons.

 From a stats perspective, Stastny is not that much more impressive than some of the players we already have. Last year he had 57 pts on the season. For comparison purposes we can look at Brandon Dubinsky who led the Rangers with 54 pts last season, which was one of the lowest point totals for a player who leads their NHL team in pts at years end.. I may be in the minority, but so far in his NHL career Dubinsky has been a 2nd line player at best, which numbers/stats wise would be where Stastny falls as well. If we are looking to acquire a center, are we not looking to get a 1st line center essentially not a 2nd line center? Plus, what would be required of the Rangers to give up to get Stastny, cause the price wouldn’t be cheap?

I like the idea of acquiring Patrick Sharp, but the Rangers would have had a better chance, and more leverage, to trade for him last summer when the Hawks were cap screwed and needed to move salarys. The Hawks are in a better position now to keep Sharp presumedly. And again, is Sharp a 1st line center/forward? How much would we have to give up if we got him this summer? Ad would it be worth it to try to trade for him if we bank on him becoming a UFA next summer that we could sign without giving up any of our own players? Doesn’t make much sense to trad efor him now given that. And again we must keep in mind as to what the Hawks would demand in return for a trade from the Rangers if the Rangers tried to trade for him before he becomes a UFA.

Just my thoughts on the topic…..yours?

by Bueke23Boom on Jun 19, 2011 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

All of those points make sense to me, and for the most part I agree. The Rangers wouldn’t make a trade for Parise, but you make a good point that I missed in that by going to arbitration, no other team could extend an offer sheet his way.

The Rangers certainly have less leverage on a Sharp deal than this time a year ago, BUT, I still think his asking price won’t be out of reach (in my original post, I called for two defensemen like MDZ and Valatenko, a pick, and Grachev). But most of my ideas were more geared towards attacking this offseason without going after Richards. For some reason, there are some things about Richards that scare me (his lack of ability on the defensive side of the puck, and his concussion). But I’m going to reiterate what I ended my post with; I don’t think the Rangers need to make a huge splash in free agency to solidify this roster. Sign the core guys, and make small moves; dealing for Sharp (a slightly bigger move) signing Jokinen, maybe bringing in Boyes in 2012. I trust our core, and I think the Dubi – Anis- Cally line is our future number one. We have a guy coming along, Chris Kreider, who is a STUD. I saw him play three times this year, including the Beanpot Championship game in which he scored 2 goals, assisted on the OT winner, was named the tournament MVP, and certainly showed skills that will translate to the NHL game. Put him on a line with Stepan and Sharp or Boyes and we have two lines that teams have to stop every night. Trust the core people – we’re well on our way.

by callahanisgod on Jun 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH!

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jun 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

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