Brad Richards Days in Dallas are Over
by Bryan Winters on Jun 2, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
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TSN is reporting that the Dallas Stars will not be offering a contract to forward Brad Richards, which means he is hitting the free agent market.
Quote from TSN:
With the Dallas Stars' ownership situation not likely to be settled until later this summer, the team will not be making a contract offer to Brad Richards.
Richards, who becomes an unrestricted free agent on July 1, will be playing elsewhere next season.
The Stars would be interested in trading exclusive negotiating rights with Richards before July 1, but such a move would require Richards to waive his no movement clause and there are no guarantees of that happening.
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Big bombshell from the Dallas Stars today, via Bob McKenzie of TSN: "With the ownership situation in Dallas not likely to be settled until later in summer, Dallas will not be making contract offer to Brad Richards(notes)." Joe Nieuwendyk is going to get slaughtered for not trading him, which is a joke. The team was in the playoff hunt until the final day of the season; and given the ownership situation, keeping him was Nieuwendyk's only shot at re-signing him. In other news, congrats to either the Leafs or the Rangers on your new No. 1 center. [TSN]
Here we go Rangers fans!, it's time to get excited, we have a clear shot at landing Brad Richards now. Let's make this happen!
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It’s all falling into place. If he really wants to come here and play and by all accounts he does…past history with Tort and hell he is vacationing with Avery right now….all he has to do is refuse to waive his NMC when Toronto offers up something for his negotiating right and wait for the Rangers low-ball but only offer they can take.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
As a Leafs fan
all he has to do is refuse to waive his NMC when Toronto offers up something for his negotiating right
I’d be interested in this happening… at least the offer. If he refuses to waive his NMC for a trade, there’s a good chance he has no intentions of signing in Toronto…. better to know early, before the draft in particular.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
Yeah I think it’s a shitty thing to do. But then again he might look to try to get Dallas as much of a return as he can.
But he apparently has been quoted that he would play for Toronto so who knows.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya... Toronto is pretty much boned.
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told Brad Richards’ first choice is not to sign where hockey’s life and there are a lot of reporters. He may not have that choice.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
if that's true
then he’s going to Winnipeg
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I hear Columbus needs a center for Nash…. can’t get too much more obscure than that.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
Or he could go to Atlanta…oh…wait
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That is a horrible quote for a player. Translation: I want boatloads of money, but not to be bothered, so if I start to suck, no one will care.
by NTB on Jun 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he came out and said that. This is the only quote I could find
‘"When the time comes, if that’s an option, Toronto is always a No. 1 hockey destination," says Richards when asked about playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs. "It would be great being a Canadian playing in Toronto but we’re not even close to that bridge yet and, like I said, I’m focused here."’
But big difference in what he says publicly and what he says personally. It could just be a way for him to let others know what his intentions are without being able to come out and directly say it.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely understand his point. It must be hell in Mtl and Tor when things aren’t going well. It’s just…ouch, that can be spun so many ways to make you look like a jackass.
I heard him on NHL Live during the playoffs. He gave the usual, I just want another chance at the Cup. If he truly means it, then Toronto should not be in the picture. It will be interesting to see if he sacrifices money for a more established Cup contender.
by NTB on Jun 2, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If he truly means it, then Toronto should not be in the picture.
OH YOU JUST WAIT MY FRIEND, YOU WAIT
We’ll be back…. eventually. Maybe.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
Just add a couple top 10 talents in the draft and you’ll be all set.
(sorry, your name brings it out)
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by George E. Ays on Jun 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I totally agree, it just seems as if everything is slowly working out how it is suppose to. This is one of the final pieces left that has finally fallen into place. I’m excited to see what happens from here on out. Glen Sather, fire up them phones, you’ll be a busy man shortly :)
5th round from Calgary and negotiating rights to Gilroy would be my offer. They can actually look to get a body back in this and a draft pick.
I can imagine any other team puts up much more than that knowing in the back of their minds that he might only want to play for the Rangers or at least will wait to hear from NYR before he signs anywhere else.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
he might only want to play for the Rangers or at least will wait to hear from NYR before he signs anywhere else.
When did Richards allude to this? Did I totally miss it?
by NTB on Jun 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think those have been the “whispers” as Joe would say, and it has been said that Richards would like to be reunited with Fonzie
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 2, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah don’t think there has been any direct quotes but there have been whispers. Now have those whispers been started by the media or came from somewhere else off the record.
And I think it was ‘reported’ during the trade deadline that he would only waive his NMC for NYR.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine there are a whole bunch of teams willing and able to give him is money, so it probably is the Leafs and Rangers spending derby.
by NTB on Jun 2, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta through LA in there I assume.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Kopitar’s still there so they don’t really need another top line center
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 3, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
If the thought is he’ll only play here, why on earth would we pay anything to get his rights?
Just let it play out, if he wants to come here, he’ll do so on July 1st. Patience!!
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by George E. Ays on Jun 2, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly… it’s the same situation with Carmelo Anthony. Why pay when you can get him for free? Richards is under no obligation to see that Dallas gets something in return for him leaving.
I actually can’t believe Dallas made it this easy. Nieuwendyk shouldn’t have been so greedy at the trade deadline. I doubt he was asking for the king’s ransom that was rumored, but he should have at least tried to get something reasonable… he should have known that the ownership situation wouldn’t have been resolved by the opening of free agency.
Anyways, Richards won’t go to Toronto. Their defense is good, but their goaltending is in the air and only Kessel is a guaranteed star. Lupul was a great pickup for them, but that’s all they have going for them until Kadri shows something. The Rangers, on the other hand, have balls-deep defense, and a top-5 goalie. The forward corps is pretty much in the same situation as Toronto, but the whole package has Rangers in the lead.
I say Richards to LA or NY.
+sideways 8.
Don’t give up anything if we don’t need to. Its between NYR, TOR, and possibly LA. If LA isn’t interested and BR doesn’t want Toronto, than don’t give up anything for him. And please don’t sign him for over 4 years or 7.5 mil. Please.
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Why why why do you guys want Richards?
Me personally, I like people with two first names.
For the others, no clue as to why they want him. though I heard he can play hockey pretty well.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Playing hockey pretty well is very overrated.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 2, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually have a cat….named Richard..lol
by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 2, 2011 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lmao boom
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Ok I will add a “s” to my cats name to make you happy…just til we make the deal lol
by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 3, 2011 1:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes it does he could be like my butler cat lol he is black and white after all like a little tux…his name actually is short for Richard Cranium which to you youngsters out there is a nice way of sayin Dick Head…but I can affectionately call him Richards lol
by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 3, 2011 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have always disliked firsty-firsties....
well that’s what i call them. There’s also the lasty lasty, such as Robinson Cano or the very rare and much maligned firsty firsty girly girly, such as Jody Shelley.
but I digress. I agree with NewburghHockey. I do not want Richards and I have several reasons.
First, he is coming of a major concussion. That is always big albatross. It makes a player more susceptible to further concussion, even from normal checks. See Savard for proof. And players can play knowing they had a concussion and could get another at anytime. Lindros’ game was never the same after the Stevens hit. I am not saying Richards would follow suit but it has happened. It is their livelihood. And we cannot afford another soft player. I am looking at you Gabby.
Second, the guy is 30. How many good years does he have left? He will want to finish his career here. I do not want a 7-8 million salary for an over the hill player in 4-5 years. We cannot compromise tomorrow for today. If he signs for 3-4 years, I would sleep much better. And thanks to the Devils, we must tread lightly with the funky salaries. No more $500,000 for a player’s remaining years, especially when those years the player would be over 40 and unlikely to play anyway.
Third, can Richards handle New York scrutiny. He will expected to be the missing piece for a Cup, or at the very least the missing piece to Gabby’s game.
I have just seen too many players signed for too much money towards the latter years of their careers. He may be better than signing Marcel Dionne or Guy Lafleur, but he at best ending his prime.
That’s my two cents.
by truebluesince75 on Jun 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
On the 2nd point, I wholeheartedly agree that the 90 point version of Richards does not have many years. I also agree that a long term deal is scary as shit.
That said, from 33-35 I don’t see him regressing to, say, 45 points all of a sudden. He’ll likely experience the same decline as many other playmaking centers before him, something like a 15-20% drop off, give or take. That will bring him down to around 70-75. Even if you want to take a more pessimistic view like 60-65 points, it still represents a level of talent we don’t have [yet] from anyone aside from Gaborik. It’s significantly different than signing a 37 year old, as in your two examples.
The entire key to him is the contract.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 2, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
1. He came back from the concussion to play great hockey for his team in their playoff push. There is never any safe bet with someone he has had a concussion, but as far as I know it is his first concussion-related injury (though I feel that I am almost certainly wrong about that point). He doesn’t play a very physical game, which should help him stay away from contact and more concussion-related injuries.
2. How many good years does he have left? Maybe as many as 5 maybe even 6. We aren’t after him for the good years though, we are after him for the two, three, or four great years he has left in him. The difference between a guy like Richards and a guy like, say… Gomez, is that Richards makes everyone else around him better and that Richards twilight years will see him scoring over 70 points, most of which will be assists.
3. Being the missing piece to a cup team is asking too much of anyone, even Brad Richards. The missing piece to Marian Gaborik’s offense? Brad Richards can do that and much more.
4. As I was writing this comment George was writing his and brought up most of the things I wanted to say. I hate you George.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 2, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
my response
1. I wont lie and say i have watched Richards play in Dallas ( I already get too much shit from my wife for watching so much Rangers’ hockey) so I dont know his game since his Tampa days, but I am not that keen on a player without a physical game. That type of game is key in the East and to successful players. So that comment scares me a bit.
2. he may have 5-6 good years left but he will want to finish his career here. he may ask for as many as 10 years! he will have much less leverage at 35-37 after his game has deteriorated. this is his first free agency. he will want to be set for life.
3. I hope so. Gabby needs a good center. Prospal has been great but his best years are behind him. dont get me started on freakin Gomez. all I can say is it had a happy ending (ie, McDonaugh) so I will let Sather slide.
anyway, it will keep me interested during the long, hot summer.
by truebluesince75 on Jun 2, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Truly skilled players don’t need to play a physical game. When was the last time that Henrik Sedin threw a body check? Not many first line centers in the league throw the body, not even Big Joe Thornton takes the body as much as he should. The fact that Brad Richards doesn’t play a physical game shouldn’t scare you off of him because of the fact that he has 70-90+ points in his stick.
We can do little more than speculate about what exactly Brad Richards will or will not want in his contract. If he wants to finish his career here we can get him on a long-term cap-friendly contract. If he wants a shorter term deal, he will be a huge cap hit but we won’t be stuck with him forever. I wouldn’t have said this two or three years ago… but I have faith in Glen Sather to make this work. He’s been on his game.
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wow
those are words I never thought would be written here: “I have faith in Glen Sather.” that should go as the site’s heading. here’s hoping you are correct and Sather doesn’t sign Richards for 12 years and $120 million. Sather loves to throw money around. my guess is that he views it as Monopoly money and that he believes its not truly real. sort of like a teenager with his first credit card.
by truebluesince75 on Jun 2, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
To be objective, Slats maybe had such a great offseason last year because there were no real big targets for him to go crazy with… he certainly does like to buy new toys.
Maybe I don’t have all that much faith… I try to have faith in Sather, but it is hard to overlook the mistakes of the past. His track record recently gives me faith and hope for him making the Richards contract work.
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"big targets" is the key
Sather has done well when he’s not tempted, but my analogy of a teenager with his first credit still applies. When Sather see shiny new toys, he is not shy about spending cash. And Richards is pretty shiny, although not shiny new. ok my analogy is wearing thin.
I am all for Richards if:
1. no more than 5 years, throw in a bonus option year
2. no more than $7-8 cap hit per year, he is not worth $10 mil/year
3. can we make his contract incentive laden? say with games played or production? may not be feasible for his age.
4. and please do not include the Do Not Move clause. I know this loophole will be corrected during the next CBA talks but it really puts a team in a horrible position.
so if he isnt signed for 10 years or for 5 years at a cap hit of $10 mil/season, I am ok with this endeavor. I hope you guys are correct about him being concussion free. I am really curious to see how Crosby plays next year. will he shy away from contact? will his production fall? will he be the same player? I still have Lindros fatigue after the Rangers signed that ogre.
by truebluesince75 on Jun 3, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Re: #3 – no can do.
Only ELCs for rookies and over-35 contracts can have any sort of incentive clauses.
And there are also some special provisions for guys who’ve missed a lot of games in recent memory. Not sure of the exact rules, but I’m pretty sure Marco Sturm is one such player.
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by red army line on Jun 4, 2011 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we should thank Messier not Sather.
by Leetch4prezofNYR on Jun 3, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have faith in Glen Sather to make this work. He’s been on his meds
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meds for what ailment?
you cant medicate stupid. sorry, that’s the best I could come up with.
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I have a better question:
Tell me why we don’t?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 2, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Shameless plug
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/4/16/2114151/center-of-attention-brad-richards-edition
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
you really want a list?
1) No number one center
2) No power play…at all…
3) Brad Richards is an awesome name
4) I may have preordered about 50 home, road, and alternate jerseys with his name and number on it
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49…..I stole one.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 2, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit
I knew one box felt conspicuously lighter
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 2, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yea how would we able to play all those top line centers we have here
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Remember all the times we said things like:
“Boy I wish someone could actually carry it into the fucking zone!”
“I wish we had someone to get the puck to Gabby…”
“I wish we had a number one fucking center. Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck.”
“Our powerplay makes me want to swallow a hand grenade after I pull the pin out of it.”
“You know what would be nice? If someone on this team could make everyone else around him better…”
“CAN NO ONE ON THIS TEAM MAKE A FUCKING PASS?!?!?!?”
Brad Richards would ensure we don’t have to say those things, or at least we wouldn’t have to say them as often as we used to.
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Seriously though, why is it so hard for the Rangers to make a clean pass? The puck gets caught up in their skates more than any other team I’ve seen. You’d think they’d learn how to kick the damn thing up to their skates to keep in stride, instead of stopping, spinning, getting hit, and turning the puck over.
It’s frustrating.
The Garden has shitty ice and we have very few great passers. Torts called Erik Christensen the bast passer on the team, or was that Zuke? I forget. The point is we don’t have nearly enough guys that can set up teammates.
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But seriously, the ice can't be bad everywhere...
whereas the Rangers’ passing.
And I think he was talking about Zuccarello.
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no pressure Brad, come to NY, the media is friendly and we won’t go Marik Malik on you if you don’t deliver!
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we won’t?…because I’m getting my torch and pitchfork ready, ya know…just in case
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Let’s not forget that Richards is currently sitting on the beach with Avery and Voros. I’m sure there is off the record chatter going on.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 2, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that true? Someone on the Stars actually liked Avery?
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by Plusch on Jun 2, 2011 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if Avery gets Richards here then the Rangers will let him play on the 4th line for his final year, lol.
http://lockerz.com/s/105983070
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 3, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
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Goes to Sean Avery.
Only thing I'm worried about
is that it seems we’re gonna have a lot of cap room and the ‘Gar will have no problem throwing it at Richards. At least he has a good chance of living up to the cash since he’s played with Torts before and he just was making a ton of cash and played very well, so its not like the money will get to his head.
Still, seems like he’d be a top priority for us and a hell of a signing. One top line guy like Richards will go a long way with allowing guys like Callahan and Duby to not worry about carrying the offense so much, or at least attempting to. It has as good a chance as any of reinvigorating Gaborik as well.
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by Plusch on Jun 2, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he may or may not be my source
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So, as a maybe not-so-objective fan of the game, in order to sign Richards to what will most likely be a $7.5M + contract, who gets bought out or dismissed to the Minors;
Chris Drury $7M
Wojtek Wolski $.38M
Sean Avery $1.937M
Im not going to lie, Richards in a NYR uniform scares me as a Devil fan
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It could be any of the three but I would be surprised if it was all three
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Not only that, but buying out Avery isn’t split with Dallas (like his salary and cap hit are).
If NYR buy out Avery – they assume the entire burden of the salary and cap hit remaining:
Sean Avery buyout from CapGeek.com
2011-12: $1,208,333
2012-13: $1,333,333
by dbmaven on Jun 2, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
People keep forgetting that detail.
But as we all know, the details are what this is all about.
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I wouldn’t count on it being $7.5m+ unless it’s a short deal. I could completely see Sather albatrossing this with a nice 10 year, $60m deal to keep the cap down, and before the CBA closes the loophole.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The more I think about it the more I want Richards here unless the contract is beyond redden-stupid.
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by Plusch on Jun 2, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, me too. We have a skill deficit and every time I saw him this year, even post-concussion, he made shit happen.
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by Plusch on Jun 2, 2011 7:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea I see 5/6 most likely. Maybe he tries to push it and goes for that bank breaking 7th year.
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by Plusch on Jun 2, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Be prepared for it to be Gaby’s contract: 5 years @ $7.5M per. there is no way Richards takes a 4 year contract at 31 years of age. this is his last big contract.
Sign me up, that’s well within my comfort range
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by Plusch on Jun 2, 2011 8:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Remember he will be trying to negotiate around the 35+ clause. I doubt he wants the contract to end right when he hits 35. Most likely he would want to eat up some of those over 35 years. Either that or take a semi-short term and try again for a home run contract but I highly doubt that.
This is really his last big payday contract. Only good thing is he has been getting paid big bucks so might not be that motivated to strike it rich…but then again its a lot of money.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 3, 2011 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions
some brad richards quotes courtesy of Pierre LeBrun over at ESPN
Obviously, I have to move on," Richards said. "I had fun in Dallas, and I like the city. But the [ownership] situation is unclear, so I really didn’t have a chance to stay there. I will move on and look forward to the opportunity to [be] a free agent. I’ve never had that chance in my career. It’s a real big moment in my life to say the least.
It would be great to try and help Dallas out if something was reasonable and made sense for both sides," said Richards. "But we’ll see what happens. You never know what will happen. I think my mindset right now is to see how many options I have.
Make of those what you will here’s the whole article
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Boy I sure like the sounds of how this is turning out...
He is already even hanging out with rangers!!!!!!! I know a lot of you don’t think VInny is coming back next season and I wasnt for him being brought back at all last year, but when he returned to the ice from his injury we really started to win again. I noticed a difference right away ocne he came back. I wonder how gabby and vinny on wings and brad at center would work out? I think the reason gabby underperformed this year is because he was playing with guys who didnt belong on the top line ot begin with.. but vinny and brad sure do!!!!!!!!!!
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1) Drury retire
2) Sign BR
3) Sign Jagr
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If money is too right buy out Wolski and resign Feds or bring in a rook.
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I would love Jagr back too, for a third line roll and a deadly Power Play. Jagr in the circles. Richards feeding him and Gabby. Insane..
Whats he worth?
We are talking about an all start here. DOnt be cheap. 7.5 to 8 mil for 5 or 6? Gilroy and our 1st?
I wouldn't overpay for him either
I dunno why we’d be giving up the first, so I’ll leave that alone. And for the contract, this is the Rangers..right? Signings with the best of intentions have turned out to be disasters over the years.
Hopefully he really, really wants to come here and Sather’s checkbook is running low on checks
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I don’t know which to reply to so I’ll just put it here.
An important thing to remember with the whole Richards deal is that anything longer than 3 years means Richards is a 35+ guy when the contract expires. Now, lord knows what the next CBA will bring, but you can bet that the 35+ rule will stay in place. So he stands to do better by either:
a) SIgning only for 3 years and getting one last negotiation in before he turns 35
b) Signing a “Kiprusoff” deal (I think that’s who started that crap) and going for the retirement contract now.
If he’s smart, he’s considering all this. Thus, a 5 year deal is probably the worst thing he can do.
This benefits the Rangers in that a shorter term deal means they can [potentially] avoid paying him too much for not enough production at ages 35-36. The downside is that a shorter term deal may result in a higher cap hit, such as a 3/25 type deal.
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so what you're saying
is that we should throw everything including the kitchen sink at him?
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by George E. Ays on Jun 2, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…i can see that
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...
who?
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exactly!
actually my initial thought was something along the lines of: “who the fuck is Blake Parlett?”
You’ll never guess what position he plays, not in a million years…
Defense?
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lol
he had a slightly less than a third of a chance of getting this right.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jun 3, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets get this done... 5 Years $38 million. Not a penny more.
What worries me is Sather may end up bidding against himself again, I’ll gag if its 5/45MM or 6/50MM.
Is he really vacationing with Avery? Those two must be running a train on some high end clam. God bless the life of professional athletes.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jun 2, 2011 9:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Speaking of whispers I had this dude on nhl 11 the other day tellin everybody in the game how he’s got the inside info and Richards is goin to Toronto signed sealed delivered I called him out asking where in the hell he got this garbage from but of course he couldn’t back it up..everyone else in the room bought it like it was gospel…I will say it made me a little queesy so I’m anxious about seeing a deal done too…id hate to see us miss out on him..I also really REALLY REALLY wanna see a free agent come in here and be productive…obviously other than Gabbys first season its been awfully depressing…Frolov…Higgins…Drury..Gomez…Kotalik…God my brain hurts just thinking of those few…oh and of course Brashear that was special lol
by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 2, 2011 9:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I didn't know Eklund has an XBOX
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by Bryan Winters on Jun 2, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it was probably incarceratedbob
He was up to his usual bullshit right after this story broke
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by Kevin Power on Jun 2, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh yeah I saw that prick with his draft day deal is already in place for rights to Richards…ugh Twitter is goin ape crap with crazy ass rumors like ducks conditional first rounder for rights to Richards and all kinds of bullcrap…
by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 2, 2011 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow
let the rumors start
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what about Vile Leino???
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is Chris Higgins available too?
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i just threw up in my mouth a little bit
by nyrangerfan521 on Jun 3, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
How about this?
Jagr-Richards-Gaby; Dubi-AA-Cally; MZA-Stepan-Hagelin; Avery-Boyle-Prust
Staal-Girardi; McD-Sauer; Erixon-Babchuk
King-Biron
EC and Gilroy as spare parts.
Not bad, huh? and I’m not counting Thomas who will probably get the “9 game look-see” before deciding whether to send him back to juniors. I think Hagelin is ready.
What?
No Jagr?
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by Kevin Power on Jun 3, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I sense a Jedi mind trick...think we're looking in the wrong direction..
If any of you follow Rumor Central on ESPN.com, there’s a report from Tampa that the Lightning have interest in bringing him back, if Richards hits the market on 7/1.
I get the feeling that if he gets to free agency, he’s more likely to go there. And with Stamkos looking at $8.5 million, we may something else emerge…just a thought.
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by Danz10 on Jun 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jason Spezza
I’d rather take my chances with obtaining him. He turns 28 on the 13th of this month, so he’s a few years younger, and he only has 4 years left on his deal. Which would be the max amount of years I want to offer Richards.
Not sure what it would take to acquire him.
by MyMarriageIsVeryMessier on Jun 3, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If they don’t sign Richards, Spezza would likely be an explorable option. It would likely cost nearly the same as what the rumored Stastny deals would cost.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 3, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
What would it take to get Stastny?
by MyMarriageIsVeryMessier on Jun 3, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
One of Stepan/Anisimov.
One of Sauer/MDZ
A first round pick
Maybe a prospect depending on selections above.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 3, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking Colorado might want another stay at home D. They were just so bad last year on defense. They have JM Liles for the puck moving/PP QB role. Even with Erik Johnson they’d probably want someone like McDonagh more than MDZ no?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 3, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think there’s a prayer the Rangers trade McDonagh. They might want him, but he’s not going anywhere, IMO.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 3, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think they trade him either. I believe he’ll basically become Staal Part 2, but what I’m saying is that McD would probably be more in line with what the Avs need more so than MDZ.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 3, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
They’d take Sauer then. If we got lucky, maybe they take Kundratek instead, but I agree they’d want an NHL-ready defenseman.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Who would you rather have, Stastny or Spezza?
I don’t like Spezza’s injury history, and he’s been fairly underwhelming since Heatley went to San Jose. Still a very good player, but seems a little fragile.
Stastny, pretty easily.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 3, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Girardi and AA for Spezza?
by MyMarriageIsVeryMessier on Jun 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hah no. Spezza isn't worth AA
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by bleed'n blue on Jun 5, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Spezza has the laugh…
I don’t know if thats a plus or minus hahaha
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Jun 3, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Richards
Will sign with NYR unless he signs elsewhere
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jun 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
wow
is that breaking news?
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Indisputable fact lol
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jun 3, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Richards to sign with an NHL team no earlier than July 1 (e9001)
There’s a reason none of us will give his site hits, the guy is trash. He may break a trade or two, but even a blind quadriplegic monkey can hit a bulls-eye if he tosses enough darts. And Hacklund isn’t taking precision aim, he’s spreading buckshot all over the damn place playing spray-and-pray.
i see
that Ranger fans have still learned nothing.
Still counting on other teams players to win games.
Jagr??? really? he’s almost 40
Richards will be yet another overpaid waste in New York. I hope he goes to Toronto.
there’s the optimism we’re all looking for
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