Rangers Analysis: Rangers Will Have Options At 15
by Joe Fortunato on Jun 23, 2011 9:27 AM EDT
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Tomorrow marks the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, probably my favorite day of the hockey year.
Clark did not rule out making a trade to acquire some extra picks, particularly in the second round, if when it comes time to pick at No. 15 there's not one of their main targets left on the board. Unlike last year, when the Rangers went into the draft knowing they wanted to take bruising defenseman Dylan McIlrath at No. 10, Clark said they had "no real plan like that" but, if all things were equal, he's probably leaning toward taking a forward.
It's not surprising at all that the Rangers aren't going in with a concrete plan. This is one of the most unpredictable drafts I can remember. On one hand a top-10 talent might fall to the Rangers at 15, on the other hand the Rangers might not like what they see at 15 and trade down to get a pick in the second round to add to a later first round pick.
If guys like Joel Armia, Mark McNeill, Sven Bartschi or any of the other high end talent we have reviewed here on the Banter are available, expect the Rangers to nab them with the 15th pick. But if Glen Sather and Clark don't like what they see when it's their turn to pick it would be smart to trade down, especially since there will be some talent to be had in the second round.
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Although it might not seem like it, the Rangers already made their first pick of the 2011 NHL Entry draft by acquiring Tim Erixon. Clark talked to Gross about Erixon and where he thinks he would have fallen if he had re-entered the draft:
Clark said just because the Rangers acquired Tim Erixon from the Flames - Clark pronected that Erixon, had he gone back into this year's draft because Calgary was unable to sign him, would have been selected around eighth or ninth overall - does not preclude the Rangers from drafting another defenseman. Clark compared defenseman to pitchers in baseball, as in, you never have enough. But it was more than wanting to draft a defenseman last year. Clark said the Rangers specifically targeted McIlrath because of his physical play, which Clark thought the organization was lacking. As far as drafting an impact player, Clark believes Erixon fits that description.
I went into detail on how Erixon would be impacting the Rangers after the trade, and it's easy to forget the Rangers already acquired a top-10 talent who could have been part of this draft pool.
Clark also told Gross the Rangers might also take a goaltender in the draft.
As far as goalies, Clark said he feels the same way as he does about defenseman, you can never have a glut. Obviously, the Rangers are set with Henrik Lundqvist and Marty Biron as his backup. Chad Johnson and Cam Talbot should have split last season in Connecticut and the organization is very high on Scott Stajcer, a fifth-round pick in 2009 who has been signed to a pro contract. Clark is also keen to re-sign 6-foot-8 Jason Missiaen, who the Rangers initially signed out of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League in March. Still, Clark could see using one of the Rangers' picks on a goalie this weekend.
In the end, it's going to be a very fun and interesting draft.
Thoughts on all this guys?
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a goalie hm..
I was hoping lundquist was going to play as our goalie until he physically died…but I’m getting the feeling an 80 yr old lundquist is not a good idea
by XxC17xX on Jun 23, 2011 9:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just look at the 80 yr old DiPietro playing for the Islanders as proof
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe DiPietro will get better with age… i think thats what the Islanders had in mind with the huge contract
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by Clalicata17 on Jun 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think at this stage Armia’s the kid I want, but I’d be ok with trading down and nabbing Jensen or Puempel. I know Biggs is probably the most Clark-like player, but I don’t think this is the draft to grab that type player. It’s so crapshooty, I don’t want a ‘safe’ pick like him or Jenner.
My biggest fear is that all the forwards go and it’s a never-ending string of defensemen left.
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I’d probably just turn it off and crawl into a bottle of Jack if that happens
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by Kevin Power on Jun 23, 2011 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Puempel, please.
Matt Puempel has a frame on him and two 1+ ppg seasons on a Peterbourough team team that has been in the basement of the Eastern Conference in the OHL the past two seasons – imagine what he could do if he had help.
NYR, scoring upside by the numbers, please; you won’t regret it.
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As long as it's not another fucking defenseman
You already got Erixon Gordie now go for some offensive fire power (Armia, or if you trade up…Strome/Zijabadabad)
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by Kevin Power on Jun 23, 2011 9:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
side question...
I have to go to a wedding tomorrow night that starts a 7pm. I will have my phone on me.
I think you can guess where this is going… in typical guy fashion, I’m looking for a good app or website that will have the draft picks in real time.
Anyone have any suggestions? Should I just keep refreshing the NHL site? Will the Banter have all the picks or just the Rangers?
As for me, I’m hooping the Rangers get Armia, McNeil or Namestnikov. Couturier too but I don’t expect he will be there at 15.
We’ll have an open thread going, and I’m sure all the picks will be posted in the thread
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 23, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
also you can sign up for mobile alerts direct from the rangers when the pick is made
i did that last year while at a dinner and slammed my fist down on a table when i read the message demanding to know “who the fuck is dylan mcilrath??? was cam fowler gone?”
tomorrow night i’ll be at a mini-school reunion and probably too inebriated to read who gets picked
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the funny part on the 2010 draft
the morning after i was at chelsea piers for a golf lesson and, after it was over, i was hanging out around the rink, reading the banter post-draft wrap up on my phone, still steaming over the pick and expecting jessiman part deux, and someone (i think it was george) had this long post about how people are overreacting, this is an organizational need, this kid is no jessiman, etc, which kind of calmed me down a bit
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Wasn’t me, i flipped out initially. Maybe after I calmed down.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
usually you're the voice of reason
thought it was you….maybe i should go backtrack a year and see, it’s a slow day today
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yeah definitely wasn't you
6’5 215.
Fits right in the mold of all the insane fans who want "grit" and "crease clearing" and all the other bullshit this team doesn’t need.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 25, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up actions
i’ll calm down eventually.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 25, 2010 8:43 PM EDT
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
stalker :)
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just read through the open thread of that draft
it was quite entertaining
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by Kevin Power on Jun 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
jim's "quick thoughts on the mcilrath pick" and fake joe's "well thought out analysis of dylan mcilrath" are worth a read too
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wow i wasn't on the open thread that night but DAMN there was a lot of hate for mcilrath, sather, sather's mother.....
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ah, research
okay, just to summarize….in june of 2010, after the mcilrath selection, most posters here went initially apeshit batshit fucking nuts slightly crazy
in the light of day some people backpedaled and after thinking it over didn’t hate the pick; others still raged against it considering fowler & gormley were on the board, and some of us are just hoping it’s still not jessiman part two (that’d be me)
additionally, in looking at the defensive prospects and measuring up how this impacted the system, some posters here were advocates of dumping one michael sauer, and many of those guys are now his biggest fans
in other words, to quote the great william goldman, “nobody knows anything”
let’s all take a step back and take this as a reminder not turn your living rooms into downtown vancouver no matter who gets picked (or traded) tomorrow night
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but what am i gonna do with all of these Molotov cocktails and rags soaked in oil and gasoline?
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by Kevin Power on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
you're starting to sound like the model for the new canucks logo
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Let me know how that works out for you . . .
by SimpleManiac on Jun 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I had the idea my friend executed in Photoshop called it the caschmucks logo
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by joereiter on Jun 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
then the rangers better not draft a defenseman in the first round
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by Kevin Power on Jun 23, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that’s no fun.
If they pick a Dman, I may find my neighbors cat and throw it in my microwave just to get the true visual of what Kovalev and Tortorella would be like together.
Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York!
For the empty net, Mark Messier... do you believe it?! Do you believe it?! He said we will win game 6 - he has just picked up the hat trick!
Actually, I just read the thread from last year. Poe678 liked Skinner. The thread is hilarious, especially when the Isles take Nino and when Dylan is picked. It was the slow momentum of Fowler falling in our laps and then WHO?! A fighter? lol The dissapointment was bad, but look, I’m an adult and, a year later, I’m almost totally over it, and looking forward to McWrath taking a load off Prust’s pugilistic duties.
Yeah, my biggest issue at the time was that McIlrath was completely off the radar, and the draft coverage did nothing but mention his fighting over and over again. Nothing about his skill, nothing about his shot, no offensive highlights. Just him beating the crap out of people.
It was infuriating, especially when he was an unknown and Fowler was there otherwise.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted Skinner in the worst way. When the Rangers picked McIlrath I went ballistic. And then when I stopped being an ignorant fan and did the research then I was very happy. Let us not forget that Fowler was a -21 in his first year with all the accolades he’s getting. MDZ got those accolades the 1st year as well while he was a -20, so… Point is, let’s not compare Fowler and McIlrath just yet. I think Gordie made the right move.
I still think the McIlrath pick was a mistake. You read all of these GM interviews, and they all say that you take the best player available, and don’t draft for need when you’re high in the first round. The Rangers did the opposite.
I do have a greater appreciation for McIlrath, though and realize that other teams did have him rated higher than we all had realized at the time… about a month ago I watched this special on TSN documenting the Oilers and their path two the first round pick. I think it was their player personnel guy who said that there were 7 players worth trading up for, and they were: Hall, Seguin, Gudbranson, Johansen, Fowler, McIlrath, and Campbell.
ARMIA, Scheifele, and Puempel in that order. Armia is my “Skinner” choice for this draft although a year or two away.
Considering Gordie Clark knew EXACTLY who he wanted going into last years draft, yet no one knew outside the draft group . . .
I’d expect he has a high target or two in this draft and saying “DMAN or Goalie is not out of the question” is just subterfuge. Or perhaps saying they don’t really care about the first pick at 15 is just driving up the price to potential suitors?
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
Another angle on Clarks statements.
Considering this draft is thick in forwards, proposing the Rangers will take a Dman or goalie makes those with second round picks think long and hard about taking the best talent over organization needs.
For example, since Edmonton and others need D – do they take the best talent available (at forward) and risk having their second round D target scapped up by the Blueshirts?
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
by SimpleManiac on Jun 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
if they do
I have a feeling 8k will burn his house down with his Molotov cocktails
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by joereiter on Jun 23, 2011 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and before you ask 8k no you can't stay with me if you wind up homeless after arson
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by joereiter on Jun 23, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't worry
I’ve already made plans with the state…they’re gonna move me up to this nice facility upstate
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jun 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
(shudder)
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I love the Banter..
But this is an obvious statement. Sorry. we will have many, many choices and chances to grab a guy who can break the east wide open. I say go for size and speed and teach him the rest.
Anyone see who won the Hart & the Rocket Richard Trophies last night? Corey Perry! drafted 28th overall in the infamous draft of 2003. For those of you who don’t remember that class, look it up.
I’m not saying this class is as deep of that one or even half as deep. But I am pretty sure, with the great hockey minds we have drafting for us this year, we are going to get a stud who will be helping us sooner than later. I personally would just like to draft some size and speed.
For those of you who don’t remember the 03’ draft. Here’s the first round:
Round one
- Player Nationality NHL team College/junior/club team
1 Marc-Andre Fleury (Goaltender) Canada Pittsburgh Penguins
(from Florida Panthers) Cape Breton Screaming Eagles (QMJHL)
2 Eric Staal (Centre) Canada Carolina Hurricanes Peterborough Petes (OHL)
3 Nathan Horton (Right Wing) Canada Florida Panthers
(from Pittsburgh Penguins) Oshawa Generals (OHL)
4 Nikolai Zherdev (Right Wing) Russia Columbus Blue Jackets CSKA Moscow (Russia)
5 Thomas Vanek (Left Wing) Austria Buffalo Sabres University of Minnesota (NCAA)
6 Milan Michalek (Left Wing) Czech Republic San Jose Sharks HC Ceske Budejovice (Czech Republic)
7 Ryan Suter (Defence) United States Nashville Predators U.S. National Team Development Program (NAHL)
8 Braydon Coburn (Defence) Canada Atlanta Thrashers Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
9 Dion Phaneuf (Defence) Canada Calgary Flames Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
10 Andrei Kostitsyn (Right Wing) Belarus Montreal Canadiens CSKA Moscow (Russia)
11 Jeff Carter (Centre) Canada Philadelphia Flyers
(from Phoenix Coyotes) Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL)
12 Hugh Jessiman (Right Wing) United States New York Rangers Dartmouth College (NCAA)
13 Dustin Brown (Right Wing) United States Los Angeles Kings Guelph Storm (OHL)
14 Brent Seabrook (Defence) Canada Chicago Blackhawks Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL)
15 Robert Nilsson (Right Wing) Sweden New York Islanders Leksands IF (Sweden)
16 Steve Bernier (Right Wing) Canada San Jose Sharks
(from Boston Bruins) Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL)
17 Zach Parise (Centre) United States New Jersey Devils
(from Edmonton Oilers) University of North Dakota (NCAA)
18 Eric Fehr (Right Wing) Canada Washington Capitals Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)
19 Ryan Getzlaf (Centre) Canada Mighty Ducks of Anaheim Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
20 Brent Burns (Defence) Canada Minnesota Wild Brampton Battalion (OHL)
21 Mark Stuart (Defence) United States Boston Bruins
(from Toronto Maple Leafs) Colorado College (NCAA)
22 Marc-Antoine Pouliot (Centre) Canada Edmonton Oilers
(from St. Louis Blues) Rimouski Océanic (QMJHL)
23 Ryan Kesler (Centre) United States Vancouver Canucks Ohio State University (NCAA)
24 Mike Richards (Centre) Canada Philadelphia Flyers Kitchener Rangers (OHL)
25 Anthony Stewart (Right Wing) Canada Florida Panthers
(from Tampa Bay Lightning) Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)
26 Brian Boyle (Centre) United States Los Angeles Kings
(from Colorado Avalanche) St. Sebastian’s (USHS)
27 Jeff Tambellini (Left Wing) Canada Los Angeles Kings
(from Detroit Red Wings) University of Michigan (NCAA)
28 Corey Perry (Right Wing) Canada Mighty Ducks of Anaheim
(from Dallas Stars) London Knights (OHL)
29 Patrick Eaves (Right Wing) United States Ottawa Senators Boston College (NCAA)
30 Shawn Belle (Defence) Canada St. Louis Blues
(from New Jersey Devils) Tri-City Americans (WHL)
no here has forgotten the 03 draft…but thanks for winning the “First post to mention the 03 Draft” contest
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jun 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to have to post a
Jessiman wasn’t a bad pick post. Seriously, at the time, Jessiman was a great pick. He blew out his knee after his was drafted and was never the same player after.
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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
or how about a ban on all 03 draft talk forever?
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don't get me started on this again
he hurt his knee two years after the draft and he wasn’t impressing much before that
also with parise brown and getzlaf all on the board and jessiman rated way lower yes it was an awful awful pick and makes the 77 drafting of Lucien Deblois over mike bossy look almost not terrible
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by joereiter on Jun 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WOW!…i didnt know that Marc Staal had a brother who was drafted that year.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jun 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
for fucks sake
I was ALMOST over 2003 until you did that
are you secretly an islander fan? do you want me to hunt you down and feed you to the pigs?
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by joereiter on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you know what i say?
who cares who we end up drafting, as long as we were able to lock up Chad Kolarik for a few more years of AHL service….i mean i was really starting to get worried we were going to lose that guy.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jun 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
If we draft a defenseman...
would my excitement be misguided?
I know no one is totally crazy about any of the forwards that we think will be available at 15, so if we pick a defenseman I would assume that a major trade would be in the pipeline. Essentially, drafting one of the top defense prospects at 15 will be the only way we will bring aboard a true, elite, NHL ready forward without giving up any essential assets. Am I off base?
If Beaulieu fell, then maybe. Guys like Siemens, Olekiask, Morrow…I don’t see them giving us that much more leverage in terms of flipping our prospects.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys..
I didn’t want to post the draft but the more I looked at it, the more I had to post it. All 20 of those guys are solid NHL’ers. Unreal. Jessiman? But I digress.
I read that the Rangers passed on Bossy TWICE in that draft. TWICE!!!!
On a real draft note though, Big Solid Forward. That is a need and there will be a few available. Skinner still stings though..
You look at two rookies who have shinned this past year, Skinner and Grabner, and what do they have in common? Crazy Speed. That’s why I think Grimaldi would not be a bad pick.
You could trade down a bit and still get him, so you can get a draft pick out of it. Then you trade Thomas or Bourque with a surplus Dman and you have the start of a good package for your elite player.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
or is that trade up? I always get confused.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s down. And ugh to trading Thomas.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You think he projects better than Grimaldi?
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s a lot closer to ready than Grimaldi, who’s at least 3 years out.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn’t answer the question ;)
but true and good point.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have no idea who is better down the line. Neither has played an NHL minute. I’d rather take my chances with the guy knocking on the doorstep than the guy who hasn’t done anything in any significant league yet.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 23, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
Maybe I have been drinking too much French wine but I would like to see a MZA-Grimaldi-Thomas line. It would almost be like an entire Lord of The Rings movie.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh MZA obviously.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 24, 2011 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions
1977
deblois and duguay over bossy
why? because the knock on bossy was he “couldn’t play defense”
al arbour told bill torey “I can teach him to backcheck, you can’t teach goal scoring”
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by joereiter on Jun 23, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You think he projects better than Grimaldi?
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
Some jean model.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jun 23, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell me you can't see,
Skinner Modeling one of those One piece Male Figure Skating suits?
I read the only
Knock on Skinner was that he had Sequenz and feathers on his Ruffled Hockey Socks.
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