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Rangers Analysis: Would Brad Richards' Contract Be Worth The Risk?

DALLAS, TX - MARCH 09:  Center Brad Richards #91 of the Dallas Stars skates in the shootout against the Calgary Flames at American Airlines Center on March 9, 2011 in Dallas, Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

They are the questions everyone in the hockey world is asking, especially now that the 2011 NHL Entry Draft has come and gone. Where will Brad Richards go? Will he be worth whatever contract he signs?

Larry Brooks wrote an article in the New York Post today, talking about whispers he heard during the NHL Draft. From his story: 

If I heard it once, I heard it a dozen times during this Entry Draft weekend in Minnesota: "[Brad] Richards told [X] he wants to come to New York."

And this, too: "Slats [general manager Glen Sather] is going to blow his brains out to sign Richards."

To which I respond: If Richards "wants to come to New York," $32.5 million over five years -- starting at $11 million this year to protect against a potential future rollback -- should be enough money and enough of a commitment for him to achieve his dream.

And this: If Sather does indeed "blow his brains out to sign Richards," to borrow from the vernacular, then the GM truly will have lost his mind.

Richards represents a tremendously high risk, high reward scenario, especially if he is actually looking for an eight-year contract. 

At best, Richards will rejuvenate Marion Gaborik, infuse like into an inconsistent power play and add another legitimate threat to give opposing defenses fits over. At worst, Richards won't put up the points expected of him but he will still be a threat on the power play and at even strength at the beginning of his tenure. It's the latter years of the deal where people see the contract as being a dangerous one. 

Since Richards told Dallas he was not going to re-sign with the Stars there has been speculation that Richards wanted to come to New York and reunite with former coach (and still good friend) John Tortorella. Until the above article from Brooks was published, there was no conformation of the reports. 

But if Richards wants to join a team that has a legitimate chance at becoming a Stanley Cup contender, especially if he joins the roster, there has to be a limit. 

Join me after the jump for more. 

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Brooks goes on to talk about the risk reward level of the long-term deal Richards is looking for. From his article again:

For the Rangers to even think of giving Richards the eight years and $50 million to $55 million that apparently will be the starting point of negotiations when the market opens on Friday is so far off the charts, it shouldn't even be a consideration for a franchise that has been burned over and over and over again on long-term, pricey contracts for free agents who all "wanted to come to New York."

Don't read this as an attack on Richards, for he's not positioning himself any differently than any other player has in dealing with the Rangers. It's just, when is enough, enough, and especially for a player who has already earned close to $50 million in his career, and has spent the greater part of the last eight months telling friends he wants to play in New York?

Here is the kicker: What happens if Sather agrees the contract is out of control, and he turns Richards away? Suddenly, the Rangers are (once again) without a number one center. Suddenly the Rangers have another tremendous offensive hole to fill, and don't seem to have a solution in site for the stagnant power play. Suddenly, we're back at square one.

If this scenario pans out, and it might, the Rangers will obviously look towards a Plan B. We have gone through the names, guys like Jason Spezza, Paul Stastny and Patrick Sharp have all been brought up. But those players don't just cost money, they cost prospects and possibly draft picks. 

If you covert guys like Artmen Anisimov, Derek Stepan, Christian Thomas, Chris Kreider and the likes (and you should), then you don't want to see the Rangers have to look towards a secondary plan.

See, with Richards the risk is based around his performance looks against the cap hit and the years. For a Plan B player, the risk runs who you give up and then how the Plan B player preforms alongside his cap hit and years. You also have to assume that, in the case of Stastny or Sharp, you'll be looking at a big (potentially long-term) contract down the road anyway. 

So which road do you chose? The floor is yours. 

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Sather would blow his brains out

I just got a boner

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by Archie Barberio on Jun 27, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

personally

I love Sharp or Statsny but Richards instantly makes this team a contender, honestly I think either of those guys would be fantastic here

I know we have had bad contracts but at some point we need to take a leap of faith again

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by Archie Barberio on Jun 27, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I want him here… just so Philly doesn’t get him. Yes, I know they’d have to move a lot first..but anything is possible. See Carter, Jeff and Richards (Dubi’s bitch), Mike

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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jun 27, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d rather trade for a player under contract currently.

There has always been something about free agents, big contracts, MSG, and failure.

We’ve been here many times before and it seems that the resentment with these “big additions” builds quickly, every single time.

I understand the attraction, but I think I would rather see Brad Richards and his 7+ million dollar cap hit on another team.

It’s careless management to just throw big money at a player like that, especially since Richards has NEVER played on a big stage. He’s played in big games yes, but not in a big market. It just stinks failure.

The Rangers could land a solid offensive minded player like Brooks Laich in free agency, or via trade.

by Peterman700 on Jun 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Brad Richards won the Conn Smythe, not really concerned about him battling the pressure of playing in NYC when he probably would not even crack the top 50 most well known athletes in the NYC area. Signing guys with little skill like Brooks Laich in free agency is how you murder cap space, Brad Richards is an elite point per game center who won’t cost young assets for us to acquire. Besides what makes you think someone like Jason Spezza will be able to handle the “pressure” of playing in New York? Not to mention the fact that the Rangers team that Spezza is surrounded by would be worse than the one Richards is.

by KingHenrik on Jun 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that Richard is an “elite” point per game center. Totally.

The problem that I have with this is that the Rangers have had endless failures in free agency. Endless. One could argue that Gaborik has been a failure. I think that he is a failure thus far, but perhaps that stems from a lack of a true playmaker at the top.

I see both sides of the argument clearly, and as a fan of the Rangers, I tend to believe that sticking with the current path is the best option.

I am not a Spezza fan.

I think there are other options and not necessarily at center. The Rangers can benefit from a left wing too. There are plenty of options moving forward.

As far as Laich goes, he’s a “rah-rah” type player with a nose for the net, pardon the cliche. I just threw Laich’s name out there, because he is also a UFA.

by Peterman700 on Jun 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

How has Gaborik been a failure? He had one season at 86 points. This past season he didn’t produce because he was asked to play like Brandon Prust.

Do you think Brandon Prust would be successful if he was asked to play like Marian Gaborik?

by Hoggo on Jun 27, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

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by earthworm on Jun 27, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point above about trades requiring the loss of assets is a fair one; Richards will only cost money, not players to sign. I don’t see how acquiring (and inevitably overpaying) Brooks Laich fixes anything for the Rangers. To say that the Rangers shouldn’t sign Richards because of bad luck or previous failures with free-agent contracts is a little more superstitious than reasoned. It is true that the Rangers’ free-agent history is littered with the likes of Valeri Kamensky, Brian Skrudland, and Chris Drury, but realistically speaking each case with each player is different….though it may not seem like it!

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by greifi griffie on Jun 27, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

First off I don’t agree with your comment that Richards will only cost money. The Rangers will be once again tight to the cap ceiling and this may cost the Rangers players that they have spent time developing. The Rangers are in an excellent financial situation right now, especially good since it looks likely that Drury will be bought out.

The Rangers can find a playmaker for half the money, and continue to give time to Stepan, Anisimov and company.

by Peterman700 on Jun 27, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What else will Richards cost then? In a salary-capped sport salary level obviously impacts the overall roster…to pick up Spezza, Stastny, or any of the other “Plan B’s” offered up so far will cost actual Ranger players in all likelihood. Guys like Spezza and Stastny aren’t cheap in terms of salary either….they could easily lead to the same roster issues that you believe Richards is going to cause.

Richards is the best option for the money. Notice I’m not advocating it either, just saying if Spezza is the #2 option that the Rangers should make a move on Brad Richards instead. Spezza is not a fave of mine; talented but fragile physically and mentally. Ottawa proved to be a demanding market for Spezza, he’d go insane in NYC….

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by greifi griffie on Jun 27, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about 7 for 7?

And if he fades for the last two years could we bury him in the minors like redden or let him retire? I know you guys think the pipeline is where its at, but there are no gaurantees that any of these guys will do what you think.. (See Grechev). By the time the kids really do come around, Hank and Gabby may be done about done too. So if we are going to have a good shot at winning a bunch of games here in the next few years I think BR will make a real fine addition to this time. All I can say is that I am excited. Hope it happens………..

by Toad McGee on Jun 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

No desperation

One possible mistake the Rangers and we fans make is thinking that we need to ‘do it all’ this summer. Since most of us agree that we aren’t contending this coming season with or without Richards, if the deal he seeks is ridiculous and would hurt the franchise down the road, then maybe the #1 center issue isn’t one we can address this year.

I just think it’s always a bad idea to make long term decisions from a position of desperation. Since the idea is to contend in 2-3 years, we don’t necessarily need that #1 center THIS season, and with Richards, the worry is that in 2-3 years he could have lost some of his effectiveness/motivation, and the concussion issue is a concern as well.

In short: while acknowledging that Richards does fill a hole and he is a great player, the Rangers should get the contract THEY want, and not simply let Richards himself dictate the terms. If he’s unwilling to meet us at least halfway, then he can take a walk and we’ll keep looking and staying patient with the process.

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by Joe1969 on Jun 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Total Agreement Here

I will emphasize what you only mentioned in passing: Richard’s concussion. To me this is the greatest concern as it is entering into the great unknown. We all know athletes who have never quite been the same after a concussion and are more susceptible to future concussions. If he demands an insane contract, we would be insane to give it to him.

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by Stepan the Ice! on Jun 27, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, I’m not desperate, either. It’s obvious that the Rangers are on the right path (though Hank is getting older…).

I don’t see why AA or Duby can’t be developed into the 1st line center we’re looking for. They both have the tools, don’t they? (Unless I’m just brainwashed by team propaganda.)

by icespree on Jun 27, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing as Dubinsky spent this entire season and a 3rd of the last one on the wing I really do not see #1 center in his future.

by KingHenrik on Jun 27, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fair. If Torts and Duby stay on the same team, I doubt Duby will be developed in that direction, and more’s the pity.

And LJR, you’re right, I was totally remiss in not thinking of Stepan. I usually don’t, even though his performance last year merits these thought, just because he’s so young.

by icespree on Jun 28, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

That should be plan A. If Stepan doesn’t learn how to take faceoffs or AA doesn’t develop further, then use the cap space to sign a big FA center next year.

by LJR on Jun 27, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree, but you know this

by mike1967 on Jun 27, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burke and Sather sitting in a tree

B-I-D-D-I-N-G

Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.

by nhlcheapshot on Jun 27, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Might work out, maybe Richards will own the team instead of Dolan by the end of it.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 27, 2011 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can't see that as a bad thing

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell if he gets rid of dolan then give him whatever he wants

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't see it happen again

I would rather send some assets off (it’s hard to argue the rangers don’t have lots of them) in order acquire a young center ala Statsny then sign Richards. He is great no doubt, He will be great for the first 3-4 years. However one more concussion and he could be done for. Don’t forget Drury and Gomez were solid in the their entry years.

by smitty046 on Jun 27, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

i feel like everyone overlooks the concussions. and they shouldn’t.

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by Papa T on Jun 27, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had one small concussion, Its really not a big deal. Now if he had 3 or 4 than it becomes a big deal but as of now their is nothing for you to pit against him with having one concussion.

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 27, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is when youre giving him nearly 8 million dollars to play at 31 years of age and throwing the weight of this team (pp woes, offensive increases, cup contention) on his shoulders alone..shit were gonna be put on suicide watch every times hes constipated if we sign him

by Kevin Papa on Jun 29, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not Sure

I’m not liking the big push for Richards… Richards seems like he’s out for big cash because this is his last chance to do so! We have a few problems with contracts to clear up before we actually do something here. I either see Sharp with a five year contract than Richards. I lie both players but lets not forget that Richards is damaged goods!!! If he gets hit hard once hes going to be out for some time! I just dont want another Dury factor on my team for 5 years. Yes, I know Gabby is damaged good as well!!! I’m not even going there! lol We need a leader not another player that love to go to the tanning salon!!!! Yikes Avery!!!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

huh?

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya had me up to here
I’m not liking the big push for Richards…

then you just got derailed there

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Time will tell!!! I’m usually right about these BIG FAIL TRADES!!!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not a trade

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes!!!! Koolkev!!!!!

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by Stepan the Ice! on Jun 27, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL 2

Don’t get me wrong I’m just a hard nose fan! Sorry! I wanted leadership on my team!!!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Sharp and give Derek Stepen the reins! Keep your money in your pocket Sather! Look for mid season trades and next year!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blackhawks just cleared a bunch of cap space. I think keeping Sharp past next season was part of the reason they did so.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Richards, I love Richards, and Im going to hate his damn long term contract. But with that said I think you either go with Richards or you don’t make a plan B trade for Spezza or Sharp both are not nearly as good and still cost a lot. I would love Stastny but I think we would have to give up WAY too much to acquire him. So I would want to sign Richards this summer, but if we don’t acquire a number 1 center this summer, Im fine with that as well.

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 27, 2011 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Contradiction...

I am getting conflicting messages from this whole scenario. On one hand, I hear that Richards is looking for the big pay day deal. On the other I read that he is looking for a team that gives him the best chance of winning a Stanley Cup with.

To me, that sounds contradictory. If he wants the big pay day – fine. If he wants to sign with a contender – fine. I just don’t think Mr. Richards can have his cake and eat it too.

I would hope (if the rumors are true) if he wants to play in NY for the Rangers he would be willing to meat them half way on a contract and realize that he needs these guys (read home-grown talent) around him to be able to contend for the Cup.

Just my thoughts. I kinda feel if he’s all about the money, the Rangers sit pat and sign a Sharp, or a Penner next off season.

by Mike_from_NNJ on Jun 27, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd much rather go after Richards then any of these trade ideas

Its a risk either way, but at least Richards cost you just money. Stastny, Sharp or Spezza all could get hurt too and also who knows how they’ll mesh with Torts.

If Richards gets hurt, we’d still have all the prospects we’d trade away otherwise to make up for it. Much better situation.

Also if the prospects are going to be trade bait, I’d much rather augment Richards then go out and get a player now. The Rangers aren’t quite there yet.

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Only now, that the herd in this race has thinned

am I interested in Richards. The Flyers are not a real option to sign him, I don’t think Chicago has much room either. To compete with just Toronto makes it much more realistic we’ll get a fair deal for Richards.

by NYdemo on Jun 27, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

LA opened up a lot of space from trading Ryan Smyth. They’re in win now mode. 3 lines centered by Richards-Kopitar-Richards would put them as a powerhouse.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

but who are their wingers?
I think they would look into a Top line winger first.

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 27, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernier might be the piece they move for a winger.

by Hoggo on Jun 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dustin Brown, Justin Williams?

What top line wingers are available?

They could always slide a center over to wing. The Flyers did that when they had a surplus of centers.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think the trade for the other Richards leaves my team out of it. It’s a nice idea, but Brad Richards’ age always left a short layer of overlap with the rest of the core, and we do need more depth at wing. I’m not sure BR would be OK with shifting over there again. Plus, Lombardi always has a point beyond which he will not go. I imagine the Leafs and the Rangers, who both still need a number 1 center, will swiftly outbid.

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by Niesy on Jun 27, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torts & Avery

Does Torts & Avery give the Rangers any leg up in this race if it does come down to Toronto & NYR?

by Mike_from_NNJ on Jun 27, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Tortorella gives you a leg up

Avery puts the leg right back down again

by Hillbutton on Jun 28, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Avery and Richards are close friends so I’m not sure what you mean by that.

by KingHenrik on Jun 28, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard that before. I know it was Modano who spoke out against Avery, didn’t realize he had a buddy on that team . .

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 28, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were pictures on twitter like a month ago of Avery, Richards, and Voros vacationing together on the beach.

by BigB22 on Jun 28, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t Twitter. I feel like such a caveman.

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 28, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, there good friends. So 2 legs up!!

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by Moshe52792 on Jun 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Left and right, or left and middle?

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 28, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mention a plan B option getting a long term deal as well, spezza is signed til he’s 32, and Sharp is only 29, 5 year deal puts him at 33-34, not 37-38… long term with statsny at this point is a non issue…

I don’t like richards, but you can’t deny that its only money to acquire him, and I don’t want to give up assets, but on the flip side if we had to give up a prospect to get a YOUNG established NHLer I can deal with it if it comes to it, i don’t prefer it, but Richards may force our hand on this issue if he’s unwilling to come below 7 years 7+ mil… it would be irresponsible for Sather to give out such a contract

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by Clalicata17 on Jun 27, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Typically you would need to give up more

than A prospect to get a YOUNG ESTABLISHED NHLer, and therein lies the problem.

by NYdemo on Jun 27, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be willing to part with 2 top prospects for a guy like Statsny…

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by Clalicata17 on Jun 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe more…

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by Clalicata17 on Jun 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Column A – Staal, McDonagh
Column B – Dubinsky, Anisimov, Stepan
Column C – Kreider, Thomas, Hagelin

Choose one from each column. COL might listen.

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to give up either from Column A, even if it was for Stastny. I think Staal and McDonagh are the cornerstones of the Rangers defense for the next decade.

by Hoggo on Jun 27, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

… which is I why I don’t think Stastny should be our plan B.

by j-red on Jun 27, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something’s gotta give for the Rangers. I don’t think Stastny’s moving, at least not for what the Rangers have to offer. Besides, I think they would have drafted Huberdeau if they had a mind to move Stastny.

The Rangers are 2 centers away from legitimate contention. If Richards does sign, I hope Sather can pull something out of his magic trade hat…. I was pissed when Peverley went to Boston. I really like that cat. He’d be a perfect 2nd line center for the Rangers.

by Hoggo on Jun 27, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hagelin is easy to give up. Nowhere near Kreider or even Thomas as a prospect.

AA would be expendable if Stastny comes.

I’m not giving up Staal or McD though, but if another player would do it (e.g., Erixon) or a #1 pick, then that’s fine.

by LJR on Jun 27, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

nobody available is worth A or B

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by dsteak on Jun 28, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something a lot of people over look is if Richards Signs a longterm deal worth a lot of money, and becomes a bust, he is going to affect the prospects we have either in blocking them moving up through the pipeline, or hindering the Rangers ability to retain them if they turn into something good… so making a trade for a younger player and giving up an asset and getting a Statsny is very relative to signing richards… EX. if the rangers did not bite the bullet on redden Sauer and McDonagh would still be sitting in Hartford… not knowing what the new cba will be, we may not be able to bury a contract so easily, and if the cap drops as it’s likely to do in the next cba a 35 year old richards is going to be murderous on our cap situation… even more so if he’s not performing…

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by Clalicata17 on Jun 27, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Richards has gotta be limited to 5 years. Maybe 11-8-6-3-2, that would be ideal at 5/30, along with being a 3/11 deal in terms of real cash after the first two years which should be extremely attractive to contending non-ceiling type teams such as Nashville or even Tampa. As good as that would be, if necessary Sather has to be willing to go a bit higher, maybe to an 11-9-7-6-4.5, as a 5/37.5 type deal with a 7.5mil cap hit, similar to gabby. However i do feel that should be the max both in terms of cap hit and term.

As plan B’s I think the rangers options are:
1. Stastny – especially cause the only real Richards contender is Toronto, which would eliminate them from Stastny contention

2. Spezza – will be expensive in terms of prospects/picks/players, but would fit in great in NYR and has a fair and relatively short term contract. In my opinion he is a notch above Richards as a player, along with not having any concussion problems.

3. Tim Connolly – A true fallback option, someone established coming off a down year with an injury history, not a true top line center, but a good offensive player that would become our best center and could be a bargain.

4. Nothing – Let Stepan, Anisimov, and Boyle grow as a top 3, maybe even move dubi back to center. This would be a last resort though

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 27, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

What makes us think Stastny could be had?

Have Stastny or Colorado said he is available? Colorado has plenty of cap space and therefore little reason to move him… unless he asked for a trade. If that happened, I missed the reports other wise I don’t get all the hoopla.

by NYdemo on Jun 27, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colorado has repeatedly said Statsny is not available.

by j-red on Jun 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay… maybe not repeatedly, but it was mentioned this weekend.

by j-red on Jun 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh huh, and richards and carter were untouchables for philly too….
not saying he is available, just dont take everything you hear at face value

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Jun 27, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I’m not at all… I’m not dumb. But I think Rangers fans need to stop talking about Stastny as “Plan B”… like “oh, we’ll just go pick him up.”
I think plan B should be hold pat.

by j-red on Jun 27, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

and actually, no one said Carter was ‘untouchable’ leading up to that trade. His name was thrown around starting as soon as they acquired Bryz. Richards wasn’t even mentioned – that was surprising, but no one said untouchable.
Schenn on the other hand, was considered untouchable… so I thought.

by j-red on Jun 27, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Richards was a surprise, as was Schenn. But you gotta get to give, I think they both made out on that deal.

LA is looking to win now, they have all the pieces, they just need to add 2 top-6 wingers.

by Hoggo on Jun 27, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Penner, Williams, and Brown, they only need 1. Re-signing Hanzdus finishes it quick.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 27, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Projection now that Smyth is gone?

by Hoggo on Jun 27, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats a sick top 6.

Richards, Kopitar, Penner, Brown, Handzus, and Williams. WTF.

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by Moshe52792 on Jun 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clifford-Stoll-Loktionov is no slouch of a 3rd line either.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 28, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhh

I can’t believe we’re going to rehash all of this for the 7,412,231th time.

Nothing has changed. NOTHING.
Brooks doesn’t like Tortorella (and certainly that feeling is mutual), and he’s never been shy about being a “public pseudo-GM”. If you hate Sather, you’d hate Brooks more if he were the GM. So here he is, yet again, throwing out a perfect rehash of the same tired arguments.

Everybody breathed a sigh of relief when the report came out last week about a 7 or 8 year deal worth 50-55mm – which would be a ~6.5mm cap hit over the course of the deal. Now, suddenly, because Brooks “questions” whether Richards is a “good match” for the Rangers, it’s back to square one. Sigh

Reality is that Anisimov is 2 years away, if he continues to progress, from being acknowledged as a real 1st line center. Stepan is in the same boat – anywhere from 2 to 4 years. There’s nobody else in the system at center that can handle the role at this point. You don’t even begin to discuss the current draftees (from last week) until 2 years from now at a minimum.

So – if you bring Richards in, he’s the legit 1st line center for 3 years. At that point maybe Anisimov and Stepan move up a line, he drops to 3rd. You can then afford to ease the prospects into the picture without a lot of pressure.

If he ends up getting hurt – and it’s career-ending (thinking about the concussion scenario here) – then he ends up on LTIR and it effectively costs you NOTHING.

It’s basically known that Sharp is not going to end up a UFA – CHI kept him and let people like Bufyglien and Niemi leave. There have been clear reports that OTT will not trade Spezza – and pretty distinctive signs that NYR aren’t interested in him anyway. Statsny – who knows whether he is or isn’t – only time – and the right (highly inflated) package will tell.

Not directed at anyone in particular – just my general thougths. Tired of the same stuff over and over and cannot wait until the drama is over.

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

thanks for stealing my ideas DB, you saved me a lot of typing

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

/brohug

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is Brooks

Larry Brook’s job is to get you to come read his articles and get his name out here to be talking about him, It is not about whether he is right or wrong but did he get you to talk about him?

Answer is yes

And if he tosses out a 10 million dollar salary he is going to get you to react to it again it is not right or wrong but are you talking about Brooks?

As for Richards, his agent is doing that time test method which is using the word Rangers to raise the dollar value of any bidding war.

But can we remember it was just last week that Larry Brooks was telling us that Richards was not at all interested in signing with the Rangers? How credible should we take Brooks when his story about Richards changes almost daily.

Are the Rangers interested in Richard yes they are,

Is Glen Sather going to bust the bank on Richards no he is not in large part because he is looking at the 14 million dollar drain from Drury and Redden.

And as for me, I want no part of Richards unless 2 things happen: The first words out his mouth are "I am here because they offer me the chance to win.

And the 2nd is the willingness to take less if he wants to play for the Rangers (which Brooks said he would not do 2 weeks ago)

by theprospectpark on Jun 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

As usual we agree on most things, Jess.

The whole “Brooks said ….” thing makes me nuts – because there are those of us who know that it’s self-serving nonsense most of the time – and while he does seem to have some reliable sources, I wonder if he spins what he gets from them to suit his purpose. It’s one reason that I will not “click through” to his blog just to deny him the hit count…..just like I won’t go to Hockeybuzz – same reason.

As for Richards – if he truly wanted a chance to win he’d be trying to get to WAS, SJS, VAN, PIT or DET.
:-D

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm saying

Richards risk is only money, he will put up numbers here no matter what. Why trade for someone who will give you the same problem in the future?

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is......

I am nervous for Friday like its “Report Card Day”

Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, and terribly worried about the punishment Dad (in this case Pope Glen) will dole out.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Break out the Jameson's

Everything will be just fine….

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya!

Agreed!!! How long till Sather’s contract is up! I’d like to get a fresh face in that seat asap!!!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least five more years

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Theres only one Pope!

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by Plusch on Jun 27, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stars fan here

Just letting you know that Richards didn’t say a thing, it was the stars as an organization that said they wouldn’t be signing him because of the ownership dispute. Just a little something to keep in mind

by Hillbutton on Jun 27, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm saying it right here Richards isn't the answer for us Rangers Fans!!!

I don’t understand how we don’t learn our lesson from the passed with these dead end trades! Stop poopin’ it up Sather!!!!!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

1) its not a trade its an UFA signing
2) He’s better than any UFA we’ve signed in the last 4 years

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But older and more expensive

Better to save the cap space for next year.

by LJR on Jun 27, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

older and more expensive but....

…….one of few point per game players, which is why getting him is a no brainer. UFA….check……..point per game……check…………no players go back for him…..check….will absolutely light a fire in Gabby’s pants…….check…….I think we really need this guy around and I really think he is going to be a tremendously positive influence for Stepan. As in watch Step turn into this guy in 4 yrs. And if injury concerns are the ummm…concern, he gets hurt can’t play again, not on the cap.

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by earthworm on Jun 27, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROFLMAO. Post…of…the….day…..

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx for the correction BUT!!!

 I still think of it as a trade because when Richards contract is up we’re going to have to work on Damage Control! Trade one or more players to entice a team to take this joker!

by Koolkev on Jun 27, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Or they could bury him the AHL like they did with Redden unless he has a NMC.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top of the muffin, TO YOU!!!!!!!!!

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally off subject, but

whatever happened to Frankiec?

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by Stepan the Ice! on Jun 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

banned…like a week before i came on staff i think…i was sad about that I wanted to do it myself

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? He said some pretty outrageous stuff but I didn’t think it was ban worthy. It was kinda funny to see what he’d say next.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno…but ill be sure to find out

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He stirred people up too much, and it just got to be too divisive.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

But who will keep track of FDNs?

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or…there will be a huge twist of irony when the Rangers sign Boll, Stoll or Rupp.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean he stirred up George cause he didn’t want to believe the numbers. That’s a big no-no with George. I’ll miss those insanely misguided posts.

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Haha…I wasn’t even online for his banning. I was quite pissed that I missed the final nail.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankie’s posts were so absurd I barely considered him a person. JARED BOLLLLLL BROOKS LAICH

by KingHenrik on Jun 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey hey… easy… I think Brooks Laich would fit this team perfectly, we need a big bodied net presence…

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by Clalicata17 on Jun 27, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

.....on the 3rd line

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by earthworm on Jun 27, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks Laich just re-signed with the Caps.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 28, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank effing god, now we can stop hearing this “sign him” nonsense. Don’t need another grinder.

by BigB22 on Jun 28, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not when it took 6 years and $27M to do the trick either. It would have been more if he went to another team.

I never understood the desire for a player whose stats get a nice bump from playing on one of the league’s highest scoring teams the past couple of years.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 28, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol someone in this thread reminded me of him just a tad bit lmao.

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s why I asked the question. I’d been meaning to for quite a while. I also thought he was kinda like “comic relief.” Too bad (although I admit I didn’t read all of his posts, so I assume there were some over-the-top ones that were the final nail. . . .)

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by Stepan the Ice! on Jun 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yes, But there’s alot of funny business going on with that kinda of talk! Why even bother getting him!

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You really, really like exclamation points. Do you shout a lot in real life? Are you really this exuberant all the time?

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAYBE

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a friend who typed in only caps all the time, she actually talked like that. So Im assuming Koolkev talks with exclamation points lol.

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 28, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with DB on all accounts as with regards to how far away AA and Stepan are away from being legit 1 and 2 Centers which I think they will be. Richards gives you the same potential of quality play over the next 5 years then any of these previously mentioned trade prospects can.

He can be front loaded on his contract and made an easy trade bait later on or if he has health issues he can be the new Wade Redden. Spezza, Stansy, and Sharpe while all possible are not probable and to pay them Richards money if not more while giving up prospects just isn’t good business.

 Realistically we are 2 years away from being a higher echelon cup contender. Two years from now we could have a young/playoff experienced team with depth at all positions along with an all world goalie in a Torts system that rewards hustling youths. Richards gives us what we want with more flexibility at the back end assuming we can sign him to a 5 year deal MAX with a cap hit of like 6-7.5 a year.

Lastly how does this decision not just come down to money? if he wants 8-10 years at 50 million we can’t do it. Even 6-8 years at 38-42.5 is too much.However, if we can front-load a 5 year deal around 32mil and pick up a #1 Center who will lead by example in a system he is familiar with and has been successful we have to do it.

P.S. Slather isn’t the biggest problem you have to chop the head off the snake a.k.a. Dolan. That man can cripple a team with one move just like what he did with Carmello when we all knew he was coming here anyway. Slather is just the Isiah Thomas of the Rangers without the rape….

by Duballahan on Jun 27, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Isiah was much much much much much worse to the Knicks, than Sather is to the Rangers right now.

by CrazyRangerFan on Jun 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Jun 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dolan is not a “hockey guy”. He more or less stays out of Sather’s way, with the probable exception of 2 items:
1 – total amount of spending including Hartford. He probably had to approve the Redden banishment.
2 – “do whatever you need to do to get to the playoffs”

Now I’ll admit that’s speculation on my part – and he may have had a hand in putting Messier and Graves “on staff” (keeping the whole ‘94 thing alive) – but he’s nowhere near involved as he is with the Knicks.

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not Slat's biggest fan

but in no single way is he IT. He’s had more years to show what he’s got and I would say the rebuilding process we’re doing with the Rangers is great, something that never would’ve happened with the Knicks.

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

F*ck it!

Sell the farm for Stamkos minus that horrible mustashe.

by KingHenrik_theVIII on Jun 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think he’s available for trade. Their best shot is an offer sheet.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't signed with Tampa yet

just saying

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would give up the 4 picks for him in a heartbeat, wouldn’t even think about it. I’d make that trade like I was playing NHL11. In a NY minute I do that trade. I guess I’d do the trade really fast is what I am trying to say.

Of course, I’d be giving Jess less work to do, but he’d understand

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d do very dark things to get him…very dark

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you use a cigar?

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 27, 2011 9:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

only if i need light

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I’d believe they’d do everything possible to sign him up until June 30th. You think someone would trade whatever the asking price is for him right before the exclusive negotiating window expires? You run the same risk as Tampa with being vulnerable to offer sheets.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

To clarify, if Tampa gives up trying to sign him and decide to trade his rights, presumably the asking price for him via trade would be nearly cost prohibitive. Then there’s the issue of his new team trying to sign him before July 1. If they can’t do it they’re subject to the same offer sheets that Tampa might be should they fail to sign him.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa will announce a contract with Stamkos before 5 PM on Thursday.

Bank it.

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying they won't

but it’s something to keep an eye on. He hasn’t signed there yet …

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

To each his own Joe. I see no value in keeping an eye on something that’s not even remotely likely. If it’s not done/announced by Thursday 9PM, wake me and I’ll think about it. Otherwise, not even worth daydreaming about.

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well now

Obviously you haven’t heard the latest “Stamkos to the Rangers” rumor. Dude, it has an E5 next to it, that has to mean something.

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by Joe Fortunato on Jun 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah ... it means

that it’s the equivalent of a (DB0)

:D

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean “bank it!!!!!!”

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

“FROM THE SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!”

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no doubt about that, my line of thinking is that it would be tough to trade with a team if the negotiating window is down to only like a day or two.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sather does not believe in offer sheets soo..

by KingHenrik on Jun 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

offer sheets start on friday

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Scoring Update

Koolkev has used 49 exclamation points in this thread.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

what’s the record?

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m looking into it!!!!!!!

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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by Stepan the Ice! on Jun 27, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

cocaine!!!

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

FREEBIRD!!

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 27, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAZEL TOV!!!!

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 27, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he likes math!!!

(n!) / [k! (n-k)!]

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by icespree on Jun 28, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

My feeling about the number of years is that if signing Brad Richards gives us the ability to be a cup contender for the next 3/4 years I really could care less about how the contract looks after that, it is very much worth the gamble.

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+10000 it can’t always be about the future or you never have a present….

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Breaking News _Per Larry Brooks

Rangers just Claim Hugh Jessiman off Waivers

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Dr. Sather is gonna boil him down for parts

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s good to have around in case Gaborik needs some extra groins during the season

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Where is this?

by KingHenrik on Jun 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richards 1st two seasons (begun @ 20 YO)
21-41-62 (-10)
20-42-62 (-18)
Stepan rookie @ 20
21-24-45 (+8)

I don’t know where I’m going with this, help me

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 27, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

“I’m sorry. The number you have reached is not in service in this area code.
Please check the number and dial again.”

Sorry – you’re going to have to go this one alone….

by dbmaven on Jun 27, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn I was tired when I wrote that . . .

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 28, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I was just having fun.

The comparisons between Richards and Stepan might be a bit premature.
And you have to look at who they were lined up with in their respective early seasons.
If Stepan had been teamed up with more skilled players, it’s possible that he could have matched the assists #‘s put up by Richards. I ’sense’ that Stepan has a bit more goal-scoring ability – which can’t be a bad thing.

Time will tell – if we have – and can continue to develop – Stepan and Anisimov into legit 1st line players, it bodes very well for the organization in about 2-3 years.

by dbmaven on Jun 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Richards just completed a 5 Year Deal, 7.8M per.. 39M total.

I was thinking 5 or 6 at 7M would get it done, but he’s sure as shit not taking a pay cut given state income tax difference and his last big contract. I’m moving towards biting the pillow and blessing Sather to go 6 and 48-50M. Richards is the guy. If he declines in three years the team will be past Redden and Drury problems and have the ability to move salary when the current crop of RFAs are moving towards UFA status.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jun 27, 2011 6:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

+3

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

+8

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jun 28, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

-potato

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

Follow me @8kpower

by Kevin Power on Jun 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t give him over 8. Give him 6 years at 7.5 per. If he wants 8, cut it short in 4-5 years. Also, make it a front-loaded contract so we can trade him off.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jun 28, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

whatever happened to Big Ale? Remember him? No ability to hit spell check, insulting, a huge Gaborik apologist… was he blacklisted too? How many people have you guys had to ban? A handful? I never took Frankiec too seriously so he didn’t bother me, but I know he got under a lot of people’s skin.

by mike1967 on Jun 27, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Ale was no body’s apologist and yeah he was booted during a post game thread against the flyers

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

Follow me @8kpower

by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s looking like after this post we’re going to have to put together a “where are they now” of banned and grammatically incorrect former BSB subscribers…

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 27, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

where are they now?

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

Follow me @8kpower

by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew you were hired for being quick on your feet

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 27, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you know it

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

Follow me @8kpower

by Kevin Power on Jun 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I meant by that is that he made a lot of excuses for Gabby’s poor performances.

by mike1967 on Jun 27, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

You felt you needed to explain that lol

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 27, 2011 10:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just saw Stamkos to listen to other teams offer sheets tomorrow…not close to a deal with Tampa..

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 27, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I mean I’m sure he’s not going anywhere just wanted to put that out there..

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 27, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Late to the party

But I would be okay with Richards signing here for 4 years/32million. Nothing over 4 years, it seems inevitable that the Rangers are going to go after Richards, so I guess we gotta get used to having another giant contract on our payroll. Might as well make it only 4 years.

Proudly suffering as a Ranger fan.
"C'mon, vagina is my 3rd favorite hole." -Drama

by Tripodi on Jun 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont log in much during the offseason due to me preferring to read speculation rather than partake in it…..

But….. The koolkev thing in this topic was effing hilarious.

Well played good sirs of the BSB temple.

Oh and sign Richards, just git r dun already.

by teknics on Jun 28, 2011 12:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh almost forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think I hit the quota now, gnight

by teknics on Jun 28, 2011 12:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha good work!!!!!!!!! and everybody’s favorite reliable source incarcerated Bob said its a done deal that Richards is signing with the Rangers on Friday so well take that with a grain of salt lol

by Mr. Avery to you on Jun 28, 2011 12:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Henrik deserves this signing

Richards make all players around him better and will make gabby and Duby a lot better as well. We need to bite the bullet and take a shot. I think 5 yrs 35 million gets it done. We need a number one center and someone besides Hank to anchor the locker room. He is a winner and will put up his usual 25 goals and 55 assists. If you are sick of watching 5 on 3’s not getting converted in the playoffs than hop on the BR train. It’s a no brainer. Henrik deserves this. He stands on his head every night (even though he does let softies by here and there)and hasnt had any legitimate offensive leader/threat since Jagr.(I don’t count one yr of Gabby as a threat and Shanny was a leader but was at the downfall of an amazing career) . Hank won’t be getting any younger and we need to make the push now. We will develop the kids and Richards will mentor the Krieders and Thomas’s of our young bright system. It’s a must sign if your sick of always having to win game number 82. Make it happen for Hank. Let’s go Rangers!!!

In 94 I thought i could die in peace... Now I watch a ranger game and just want to die.

by RangerFan5 on Jun 28, 2011 1:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

+1 here here u speakith thy truth

by XxC17xX on Jun 28, 2011 2:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

his softies wouldn’t be as noticeable if we scored more. :)

And, why oh why can’t this be 2-3 years from right now? I want to see all these kids play on the big stage

R.I.P Derek

Rangers FTW!

by BleedsRangerBlue on Jun 28, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

New Blueshirt Banner tagline?

Sick of having to win Game 82

Let me know how that works out for you . . .

by SimpleManiac on Jun 28, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

 Brad Richards is coming to the Rangers. By some chance, if he does not, I guarantee we will see the Rangers trading away some top draft picks / prospects for a top line center.
Like most of you have already pointed out, BR makes the most sense / least risk, is the cheapest in terms of trading players away(None due to UFA), he is a proven top line center. Saying that, I think the Rangers will be under an overwhelming poressure to add a #1 Center or player due to the upcoming Winter Classic and 24 / 7. The show and the game are not not just centered around a team, but they especially focus on the top talents of the team for a storyline. I think team wise, and for the league (Big picture), the Rangers may feel much more added pressure to acquire a top line center(or other top line player).
 Last year was perfect. You had OVI vs Crosby. (And several other top talent characters). Who will we see this year? Will it be Brad Richards vs………
 About Stamkos, could his playoff showing be a show of discontent? Furthermore, I don’t think the Flyers are done with their wheeling and dealing. I think they are looking for a “spotlight” guy too. I am expecting the Flyers to add another 1st line player to their roster also. Whatever player we are looking at, they will be looking at harder. They are in a much better position to go after Stamkos. With the Richards and Carter trade, the Flyers picked up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft pick in a supposedly deep draft.
 Please excuse my post for being a little contradictory, as it is almost 3 am. My point in all this is bot the Rangers and Philly will be under considerable pressure to add a top named talent. Believe it or not, I think with us haveing Avery makes BR more likely to come here than Philly. I think Philly is on a good position for a blockbuster trade, maybe even Stamkos? Good night!
 Oh yeah totally agree Rangersfan5. What makes the Rangers the pride of me is that most of them give all their heart and soul every game. (see sig.)

PRUSTOSTERONE!!!

by nathansfamous on Jun 28, 2011 2:52 AM EDT reply actions  

flyers will need to move some serious salary if they want richards or stamkos

by nyrangerfan521 on Jun 28, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually were in a much better position to add a top player. The flyers would have to move even more players, and than fill out the roster. And with guys like Giroux and JVR needing new contracts soon, it wouldn’t be wise for them to spend to the cap.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jun 28, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giroux got an extension last season.

by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jun 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giroux is a cross between a kangaroo and a giraffe

Absolute Worst Ranger Fan!!!!!!....yet incredibly realistic and usually correct.

by earthworm on Jun 28, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

or is that a kangaraffe?

Absolute Worst Ranger Fan!!!!!!....yet incredibly realistic and usually correct.

by earthworm on Jun 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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