Breaking New York Rangers News: Brian Boyle Extended Three Years
by Bryan Winters on Jul 14, 2011 4:20 PM EDT
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According to Andrew Gross on Twitter, the New York Rangers have come to terms with forward Brian Boyle on a three year deal. The contract will pay Boyle a total of $5.1 million, which is a cap hit of $1.7 million per season.
Brian Boyle was one of three remaining key RFA's left to re-sign. This now leaves Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky as the final two players to get under contract.
In 82 games last season with the Rangers, Boyle set a career-high 21 goals and 14 assists, which placed him sixth on the team in points and fourth in total goals.
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gonna be like 7m for boyle
:) kiddingggggg
by XxC17xX on Jul 14, 2011 4:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ah, saints be praised..
He returns for three years. Cigar isn’t blowing smoke this year. He intends to move this into the top tier of the conference. Very well done, Jedi Master.
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by Danz10 on Jul 14, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well, we expected Dubinksy and Callahan to be last
at least now Sather knows what type of money he is playing with.
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I could only guess that it’s about $9 million give or take half a mil.
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by Danz10 on Jul 14, 2011 4:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would say more like 6.
I would honestly be extremely upset if we gave Boyle 3/9 without duplicating his career season.
by cromartie's party on Jul 14, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
It can’t be more than 2 mil.
I was hoping for around 1.5 mil per, but its probably closer to 1.75 seeing as though we took a UFA year.
by The Blue Seats on Jul 14, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo. That UFA year kicked the value up.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 5:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Honestly
barring some outrageous numbers in the boyle contract, I’m surprised he signed a 3-year deal, I was expecting a 1 year deal, then again how old is he if he’s 24 or 25 does than buy out his remaining RFA years, and not buy into any UFA seasons?
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I think he's 27
Maybe he gave them a break considering they gave him a shot to stay in the NHL.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jul 14, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not nervous about the numbers on Boyle
There is no way Boyle got more cash the AA
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His FA status
Would dictate he could demand more. He was arb eligible. AA wasn’t.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jul 14, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
he probably won’t break the 2mm mark though
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Brian Boyle in for 3 yrs at $1.7M per…Only Dubinsky and Callahan, the two most challenging Group II’s, remain unsigned.
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Lol instead of Tupac’s Back…
“Bigfoot’s back, Bigfoot’s back, all the bitches screamin that Bigfoot’s back”
Seriously though I’m glad, Boyle’s game took a huge step forward this year, and I think he can be a solid member of the core of this team. My only knock on the guy is that he’s gotta learn how to fight for someone with his size lol
Let’s hope we can get Cally/Duby asap!
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Jul 14, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
Leaves about $11M for Cally, Dubi & rounding out the D
If Callinsky goes for $9M total, there’s got to be a buyout coming for wiggle room.
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I don’t think Wolski is getting bought out. Who would replace him?
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Let’s see. Lazy. Enigmatic. Talented but actually only puts forth an effort in about 10 games a season. Either we can keep Christensen or re-acquire Zherdev. That should do the trick.
Wolski’s career year is the best on the current Rangers roster for anyone not named Richards or Gaborik. On average he’s been just as productive as Dubinsky and Callahan.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jul 14, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, because Wolski does what Callahan and Dubinsky do away from the puck.
You got a funny way of judging hockey players my friend.
by KingHenrik30 on Jul 15, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice generalizations and unfair groupings.
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Wolski is staying in my opinion. You also have to remember, we’re carrying Redden’s $6.5 million summer cap hit. That will come at training camp, so figure we’re still very much in the clear salary cap wise.
by Bryan Winters on Jul 14, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Christensen’s 900k is all the room they’ll need, even if duballahan gets $9m
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's an excellent number
Puts us in range for a few other moves. Dubi should get $3.45, and Cal $3.9. Given the previous numbers, it should be a fit, and I think he’s gonna try for Sopel..$1.25 should reel him in.
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by Danz10 on Jul 14, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No chance Dubi gets only $3.45m. He won’t accept that, and arbitration will give him more unless the Rangers offer a price of like $2m
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Someone needs to take that pin from you...
You kill far too many bubbles for human comprehension. Nonetheless, Dubinsky will not come in greater than Callahan after Callahan had a higher cap number.
Also, as Cally’s number would be projected as a full season number, Cally missed half the season and (unless my math is wrong) that would make him a 40+ goal scorer. Unless Sather offers $5mil to Cally, Dubi’s full season of 20+ goals doesn’t match that, making little or no sense to overcompensate, against a season like Cally’s which was cut down by two freak incidents.
It’s a jump of 45%, which according to your numbers sounds like the jump in Dubi’s production. My suggested number only comes from Dubi’s previous number of $1.85m vs. his growth in production.
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by Danz10 on Jul 14, 2011 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cally missed 20 games, not half the year. His 82 pace was 31 goals.
Yes, Callahan made more after their ELCs, but Dubinsky has had more points in every season they’ve been in the league together. Now that Dubinsky’s goal scoring has started to catch up, that point different will mean his contract also catches up quickly.
That’s not to stay Callahan won’t make more money, he’s a year older and thus closer to UFA, so those UFA years that get bought will probably take Callahan’s contract higher.
I’ve said early and often I have no idea which one of them makes more money, nor does it really matter long run. But I can say with pretty good certainly that $3.45m will be too low for either.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not to stay Callahan won’t make more money, he’s a year older and thus closer to UFA, so those UFA years that get bought will probably take Callahan’s contract higher.
This is the exact reason why Dubinsky cannot surpass Callahan’s total, and it won’t reach $4 million. Had Callahan and Dubinsky been the same age, this is a done deal at $3.5 million for both. Let me offer you this as well. Reviewing the number that James Neal got from Dallas (before being traded to Pittsburgh), Neal was “supposedly” bound to make $3+ million, and ended up getting $2.875m. Erik Johnson was looking at being a “supposed” $4 million dollar defenseman who ended up getting $2.6m.
These numbers get “cooked up” by agents with ego trips to last a lifetime. Dubi held out to eventually get $1.850m two years ago, with a weaker case to ask for a raise than now; but that doesn’t place Dubi amongst the greats in this league now. Is he a productive cog in the Rangers wheel? Sure. Was he the player that made the Rangers’ engine run last season? Arguably. But, remember that the number was 54 points, which only speaks to the lack of offense the team suffered from aside from the Wolfpack line.
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Unless I’m mistaken, both Johnson and Neal were coming off ELCs and thus are not comparable, as they had no arbitration leverage. That factor will help both Dubi and Cally get closer to their asking prices.
Granted, they’re not getting $5m, but if they’re asking for $4.5, they may get pretty close, but will probably have to get a couple UFA years bought to do so.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dubi has played more games and has accumulated more points in his career. He’s missed less time due to injuries. If their cases go to arb, I’d say Dubi stands a better chance of getting more $.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Jul 14, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Dubi is going to make more than callahan based off of his offensive production
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Dubi gets more than that. Probably along the lines of 4.
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Figure $9M for Dubi/Cally and then Erixon’s $1.75m does not leave us much wiggle for a 7th D man… moving Christensen down would let us get $1m Eminger again.
Exactly. Thats the plan I think.
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Wojtek Wolski ($3.800m) / Brad Richards ($6.666m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($4.000m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.000m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Michael Rupp ($1.500m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
/ Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m)
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Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Mike Sauer ($1.250m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Tim Erixon ($1.750m)
Steve Eminger ($1.125m)
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Its a tight fit, but it works. No need to buy out Wolski. If Dubi and Cally get more than that, than sending Christensen down will be the most likely scenario. Of course having a guy like Valentenko of MDZ will save money as well.
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Ya hate to say it, but MZA could be an early season cap casualty also. They could recall him later in the year when enough cap space is accrued.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 5:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Makes sense if a cheaper option is available.
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That would not be a good idea (cap casualty). I would rather keep him and get rid of Wolski and there’s your cap savings.
Are you sure? You seem to be a little bit indecisive on Wolski
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by George E. Ays on Jul 15, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Sather could just trade EC
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by feslenraster on Jul 15, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually maybe since his $$ is low that he’s tradeable.
by Richter1994 on Jul 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s gone through waivers so I doubt anyone will trade for him.
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good point. I just thought with teams needing to get to a higher cap floor that it could open up some new trading opportunities. chances are though if Wolski is gone then EC is a cheap spare to replace injured players during the year.
by Richter1994 on Jul 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s awesome that we resigned Boyle to multi-year contract that should leave enough room for Dubi and Cally. Boyle is a big boy boy who scores and also drops the gloves (your right though he does need to get better at fighting). Not to mention the chemistry between him and Prust is remarkable. As far as Wolski goes atleast he’s pretty nasty in a shootout
by Ranger McJersey on Jul 14, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you guys overrate dubi hes not worth 4 mil out of the 20 goals he scored how many were empty netters
5 of 24, 1 of which was shorthanded, which I think negates the EN thing.
That of course ignores that contracts aren’t based strictly on goals.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 14, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
“That of course ignores that contracts aren’t based strictly on goals.”
Yeah, tell that to Marc Staal… Btw, did you know he has a brother?
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by SimpleManiac on Jul 17, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Not only does he score goals he also puts up points puts bodies in to the boards and will drop the gloves for anyone on the team and for his weight class I’ve seen him drop some bodies
by Ranger McJersey on Jul 14, 2011 7:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Could we sign Dubi&Cally to matching contracts since they're kind of equal in our hearts?
How does 4 years $15M for both then $1-1.25M for Eminger to round things out sound?
I’d like to keep Wolski & Avery here for the last year remaining on their respective deals and see how things work out b/c for the first time in a long time i feel like we may have something special here. If something comes up between now & September we can send MZA to the Whale as insurance for if an injury situation comes up.
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+1, but Callahan’s loss of one more UFA year will probably make his contract a tad bit higher.
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how about MZA
What if we gave him first line with Richards and gaborik. U never know that may be one nuts line
by XxC17xX on Jul 14, 2011 7:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was thinking that the LW-Richards-Gaborik line needs a grinder on that left side
And since Aves & BR are boys and since Fedotenko & BR were line mates back in Torts’ TB days I’m thinking they deserve a crack at it. whoever loses the battle can play RW with Stepan & Wolski on L3. Now that we’ve re-signed Boyle all i wanna see is
RUPP-BOYLE-PRUST
All day long on that 4th line… LOD who?
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by Kendrick Jay on Jul 14, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely agree with R-B-P line
by Ranger McJersey on Jul 14, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I figured 1.5 on a 2 year deal – so 1.7 AAV for 3 years is perfectly reasonable – the extra 600k buying that one UFA year.
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great deal on boyle….rupp-boyle-prust sounds awesome as a 4th line and we should b able to roll all 4 lines….dubi n cally 4 mil ea. no more….instead of emmy we should try sopel he has experience and a cup under his belt for the defense to learn from if not then try back with emmy…..the 1st line as we all said over n over i say wolski,dubi,avery,feds that should b the order on who gets the chances…i think wolski will have a good year if he becomes faster with better skating and the last time he was on a contract year thats when he put up those good numbers with COL and PHO then sell em high at the deadline if possible if not then np but we need a good LW and a puck moving d-man as we get closer to contention releasing a 1st rd pick would b expendable but we may not need too
by Anthony Tamburro on Jul 14, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Glen has done it again...
And you wanted to throw a “Fire Sather” rally, Jim. Shame on you!
I kid, I kid…
Its my fantasy that Barb Underhill is going to transform this team into an ice shredding machine and everyone who works with her improves as much as Boyle did. I like the signing. I like his work ethic. Alright, now lets get captain crackle and pop in here and I’ll be happy,
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by Kevin Power on Jul 14, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Does anyone else get the feeling that everything is going “according to plan” for Sather this off season? I mean, the order in which deals are getting done and the amounts. I think Sather lined them up like dominoes and is just knocking them down in order.
I bet he has a check list on his notepad that looks like:
1) Sign Brad Richards for under $7m per.
2) Sign Feds with modest raise
3) Sign Sauer for <= $1.5m per
4) Sign Anismov for ~$1.75m per
5) Sign Boyle for < $2m per
6) Sign Callahan for ~$4.25m
7) Sign Dubi for < $4.5m
I bet when all is said and done at the end of next week, he will have everyone signed and be withing 500K of his budget.
Sather is having a tremendous offseason. Year #1 was making the playoffs last year and now year #2 is going exactly as he wanted it to. It’s all coming together. Now, if everyone stays healthy, especially the King, then I say 5th/6th seed very possible with one or two rounds in the playoffs. Then compete in year #3.
Not to familiar with Rupp
but will he work well on a wing (as several of you hoped with BB centering and Prust on RW)? Has he played LW before? Thanks.
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He’s not as adept at the 3 backward positions.
by teknics on Jul 14, 2011 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
touche
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My 2 cents...
This is the 1st of the 2011 expiring RFA signings that was done for more than I thought.
Apparently, I wasn’t the only one who had the expectation of $1.5 mil per yr for 2 yrs max. I thought this given that his last contract was only a little over the league minimum of $500,000. So, the contract is a yr longer and a little more money than expected, but I’m not overly upset about it (esp. given the big picture of the previous Anisimov and Sauer signings which I consider to be steals).
I do worry that Boyle was given his contract based on a very small sample size of what I believe to be an anomalous season.
It’s not that that I don’t like Boyle or don’t value some of the unique things that he brings to the table (big guy, great penalty killer, not afraid to shoot, etc…), but I must confess that I was kinda hoping that Boyle would be traded after the Rangers were eliminated from the playoffs a couple months back. He was one of the rare Rangers whose stock rose when we donned the Blueshirt and I saw him as a great "sell high" candidate.
Now, we gotta lockup the most important of the 2011 expiring RFAs – Callahan and Dubinsky. I’m hoping and expecting both of them to be signed in the $3.5-4 mil per yr/3-4 yrs range (Dubi might get a slightly bigger contract than Cally). It’s gonna need to be around there if we’re gonna sign a veteran D.
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I mentioned it on twitter yesterday, but Boyle’s value is not entirely tied to his offense, so while his offense may be anomalous, he’s still part of PK1 now, and will continue to have increased defensive responsibilities. Really, he’s making $200k more than Rupp, and less than Anisimov, so I think that’s pretty much where he should slot it, given his role.
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