2011 NHL Free Agency: Day 3 Open Thread
by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 9:54 AM EDT
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Brad RIchards is with the team, Matt Gilroy and Justin Soryal are no longer. Thus is the summary of free agency transactions to the New York Rangers roster yesterday. For Glen Sather, this has not been the most active period, but certainly one of the more productive in his tenure.
Other notable moves around the NHL yesterday:
Tomas Vokoun - Signs with the Washington Capitals for 1 year, $1.5m.
Ian White - Signs with the Detroit Red Wings for 2 years, $5.75m
Simon Gagne - SIgns with the Los Angeles Kings for 2 years, $7m
and
Tim Connolly - Signs with the Toronto Maple Leafs for 2 years, $9.5m
Consider this your open thread for today's events. As usual, any breaking news will be covered right here on the Banter.
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Quicker we can get Dubi, Callahan and Animisov signed
the less chances there are for someone to offer shit them
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How can Vokoun, with his remarkable stats on largely average to below average teams, get a one year deal for 1.5?
Crazy.
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Nobody wanted him …got to take whatever you can get now
by XxC17xX on Jul 3, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And they stole two top draft picks in what is supposed to be a deep draft.
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by nathansfamous on Jul 3, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I its hilarious because Vokoun is probably a better goalie than Bryzgalov. The Flyers could have saved themselves a lot of trouble if they just signed him.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 3, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess they want someone over the long term
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Canucks interested in Dubinsky and Callahan?
I’ve noticed a few fan sites talking about Vancouver taking a run at Dubi or Cally to play with Kessler. Haven’t seen this on any news sites or creditable sites.. Anything we should be seriously concerned about?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jul 3, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fan sites are just that—fans. I can’t imagine Callahan or Dubinsky is going anywhere anytime soon.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
so we've all had a day to sleep on it
how does everyone feel about the Richards deal?
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I'm way past the 4hr mark but still haven't gone to see my doctor
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
wow
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If that ever happens, screw seeing a Dr. Go see a hooker.
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by nathansfamous on Jul 3, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Just awoke from my beer coma & read the entire 724 comment BR thread...
there was alot of good stuff in there but the haters need to slow this man at least a full season before ripping this deal apart. I’m almost 29 and the top-tier talent we’ve had here in those years has been thin to say the least; it’ll be nice to hopefully have a big time leader/clutch performer on the club
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also, I was a little upset to see the Axe Murderer get embarrassed
27 seconds? Yiiikes
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by Kendrick Jay on Jul 3, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
That was awesome. I hated seeing tito win and then celebrate like its a title when he hasn’t won in 5 years
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by Plusch on Jul 3, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know right!?!
That jerk forever enshrined himself in the douche bag Hall of fame when he “decided” to have back surgery instead of fight Chuck. Then Chuck fought a guy half his age & got retired. Screw Tito & his 85lb wife
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I'm stoked
To see jagr get checked through the glass this year
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by dukegnarly on Jul 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can’t wait to see sauer break his pelvis
by KBrian on Jul 3, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This...four times a year
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by Kevin Power on Jul 3, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Was it the hit or the unpunished hit to the head?
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Jul 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a clean hit, elbows are down, and it wasn’t blindside because Ovechkin came from the front and Jagr had his head down. So thats clean hit.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and Jagr had the puck
Imo if you have the puck you’re fair game
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by clean hit you mean it was an "Ovechkin hit" then sure
everything about it was perfectly clean other than the parts where he left his feet and hit Jagr’s head with his elbow. but sure why not, it is Ovechkin lol
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he never hit his head…ovi extends his arms through the chest as he drives into Jagr
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he leaves his feet, only contact was to the head against a player with his head down.
Under the new rule that’s a suspension.
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Jul 3, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
leaving his feet was a result of the hit, not jumping into the guy with his knees pointed like the faggot Russians did in the 1980 games. Thats a model for a clean hit. Exploding upward with his arms, no contact to the head, hit first with the shoulder. Great hit, I saw it on TV when it happened, it was great. Love Jag’s but he got caught looking like a rookie
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If Jags head was hit, he would have been out cold and still seeing fucking tweety birds.
He got up pretty damn quick, thats the type of hit where you bite your tongue off.
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true...
i agree he gets slightly off his feet…but thats after he’s already laid the hit.
it’s kind of hard not to when stopping so abruptly when hitting a ~240 pound wall staking towards you.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 3, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly him coming off the ice is a direct result of laying the hit, any body whose played hockey understands that. Beautiful hit, by a great player.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If you think that’s a dirty hit, quit watching pro sports. They are obvioiusly to physical for you. That is as textbook a hit as it gets.
by GAThingy on Jul 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And that's why Ovechkin...
…will ALWAYS be better to me than Crosby.
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Buffalo and Florida got better and Vokoun fills a big hole for the Caps.
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Jul 3, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
I think it was a good pickup for the Caps but it ain’t a huge hole, that’s why they traded (or at least part of it) Varlymov. They have Holtby and Neuvirth, who both played last season pretty well.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Richards Buyout
I may be looking really really far down the road here, but what would the cap hit be for buying out Richards before the 7th year (the first year of $1 MIL salary)? Is it still tied to the salary cap number or his actual salary?
I’m hoping that Vokoun looks a lot like Theodore for the caps this year, and gets to be our bitch in the playoffs.
First off. That second paragraph. Awesome.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think its tied to the actual salary because Drury is costing ~3.3 this year and then something like 1.6 mill, which are lower than half his cap hit.
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It is tied to his actual salary but not in the way you think. I believe you are subtracting the savings of actual money from the original cap hit amount. If you plug it into CapGeek, you see that if you buyout the last 3 years of the contract, the cap hit is $6m even for the 3 years and $333k for the extra 3 years. Not ideal. Better he retire with $57m in his pocket leaving $3m on the table.
It is tied to the actual salary.
Brad Richards buyout from CapGeek.com
2017-18: $6,000,000
2018-19: $6,000,000
2019-20: $6,000,000
2020-21: $333,333
2021-22: $333,333
2022-23: $333,333
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So its essentially a 6 year contract, assuming we buy out his last 3
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Next CBA
Is this type of contract going to be something that is brought up in the next CBA? The ability to front load contracts to reduce the cap hit and then buy out the players when they are paid next to nothing. This sort of looks like a win-win for the players and management.
The more I think about it the more I like the contract.
Definitely. There is no way the NHL is gonna keeping letting itself get slapped in the face because of these contract loopholes. I can see them caping contract lengths, or forcing much more even distribution. All of these 7-12 year contracts are getting excessive
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not quite. If we buyout his last 3, we’re going to have a $6m penalty lying around. That’s a pretty big penalty.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
thats awful
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by Archie Barberio on Jul 3, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Ehroff got the same front loaded contract too. To lazy to google it though.
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by nathansfamous on Jul 3, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok. Only 18 mil first 2 years.
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by nathansfamous on Jul 3, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville’s GM hitting the sauce early on a Sunday
@mirtle James Mirtle
Here’s an interesting one: Preds acquire Brett Lebda and Robert Slaney from the Leafs for Cody Franson and Matthew Lombardi.
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That deal includes a conditional pick: If Lombardi plays 60 games, Preds get a fourth-rounder in 2013. If he doesn’t, Leafs get one.
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Uhm…why would any GM trade for Brett Ledba and expect it to help his team?
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by Kevin Power on Jul 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not to mention giving up Franson in the process. It’s baffling. I know D is a position of strength in the NSH system (at least it was), but someone smarter than me will have to explain the NSH side of this trade, it’s bizarre.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Shedding salary maybe?
gotta make room for Weber and Sutters contracts
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That’s about it I guess…because Ledba is a bad hockey player
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by Kevin Power on Jul 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah he seems like hes been in perpetual decline
from mediocrity. maybe they plan on burying him in the minors or something
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Maybe NSH is stupid enough to take Redden and put both of them in the minors
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by Kevin Power on Jul 3, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The way free agency has been this year
I would be surprised if Dale Tallon took on Redden’s salary to hit the cap floor. The guy pretty much signed a whole teams worth of completely average players to overpriced contracts, and he had no problem taking Campbell back
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I think even Reddens contract is too much of an albatross
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by Kevin Power on Jul 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You do realize
were talking about the guy who SIGNED the Christobal Huet and brian campbell contracts right? lol and the guy who gave up a calder nominee for nothing. Dale tallon has had his fair share of brain farts
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good point…but i dont think he would be THAT crazy…would he?
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2 weeks ago, i wouldve said no
now…..im not too sure
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what Calder nominee did he give up for nothing?
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He waived Grabner this past season. NYI claimed him.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
OHHH yeahhh, I was thinking he was talking about Tallon’s moves in Chicago, yes that was totally boneheaded on his part
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
RAL what do you think about the Caps picking up Vokoun, what the deal with Neuvirth and Holtby?
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome, one of NHL’s better backups, and AHL starter.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the Caps were going to give Neuvirth the start this year.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Nashville was souring on Franson.
by NTB on Jul 3, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, Chris Burton was all excited about Franson’s potential about two years ago. Not so much anymore.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember rge Tor game this year, I think vs Atlanta where the Leafs won 9-3? Lebda was a -3 in that game
Yeah….
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*the
Dang phone
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jul 3, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
George: you forgot Michael Rupp ???
That is a good, smart signing by Sather. A tough guy who teammates love with some skill and versatility up front.
I’m very happy with the Brad Richards signing. It gives us short term legitimacy and won’t cripple us long-term. Think back to last season and all those games where Henrik put up gems but we couldn’t score just one or two more goals to put us over the hump. I think Richards’ signing combined with across the board improvements of all our young core will go a long way toward helping the scoring. Wouldn’t it be nice to cruise into the playoffs instead of scratching and clawing into them?
Our team post-July 1st seems much better constituted to make that happen.
by KingHenrik30 on Jul 3, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m looking forward to our powerplay for the first time in a while (last time was when Kotalik was on fire for the start of the season)
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I was talking about yesterday’s moves. Rupp was discussed at length yesterday.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Next?
From what I’ve been reading, the Rangers will have close to 3 million to spend after re-signing the restricted free agents. If that’s the case, who are some viable defensemen that are still out there?
As for the lines, I’m envisioning:
Anisimov- Richards- Gaborik
Dubinsky- Stepan- Callahan
Wolski/ Avery- Christensen- Fedotenko
Rupp- Boyle- Prust
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Anisimov has struggled on the wing and the Pack line of Dubi-AA-Cally was one of our best last year so they wont be broken up
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If they all stay and stay healthy, they are going to open some eyes this season. I think they can be good for 90 goals this season.
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by nathansfamous on Jul 3, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Rangers do not pick up a LW via trade, I think Torts is going to do a lot of line experimentation. Please do not underestimate WW. Yes he is inconsistent and somewhat of an enigma, but he has tremendous talent when he wants to use it. He has played under the Rangers system, and he does hit a lot more too. Maybe this is the year he puts it all together?
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by nathansfamous on Jul 3, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
truth...
i dont think if he’s ever played alongside a center quite like BR…maybe that give him some incentive to work hard and get up to the first line where he can really do well….as long as gives the effort.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 3, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If Wojtek Wolski plays on Richards line, Richards will make sure he shows up every shift if not, Wolski is going to get chewed out by both Richards and Torts.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d relax on the 90 goals thing. It will be nice if one hits 30 goals, they’re not all doing it.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
whoever mentioned it, was talking about the Dubi, Artie, Cally line which is pretty unrealistic for them.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 3, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t get your hopes up for AA-Dubi-Cally-Stepan, then.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was in response to someone saying that the Pack line could score 90.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
And Y not? They had 65 this past season, and that is with Cally and Duby not being healthy for several games each. Add in AA’s potential to improve, I think they can do it. A little optimistic, yeah, maybe, but not by much. Only 8.33 more goals each. I think they will come real close. Dont be surprised.
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by nathansfamous on Jul 4, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
This isn’t the 80s. 30 goals is a lofty milestone nowadays. You’re basically implying then that with Gaborik, we have 4 of them.
Sorry, I’ll take the under. Could they hit 75? Yeah, I suppose, but not 90.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
How about Stepan on the LW on the top line, leaving Pack line in tact?
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stepan needs to be the 3rd line center..let him work on his faceoffs and how to play the position from Richards
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Still smiling from the Richards signing and enjoying the weekend.
Nice to see Richards talk about how important coming East was and being closer to PEI. Reduces risk of Gomez syndrome.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jul 3, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
On the 3rd day of free agency...
a trade and a change of positions for one current player. I’m just floating an idea:
Callahan-Richards-Gaborik
Anisimov-Stepan-Dubinsky
Prust-(center acquired by trade)-Thomas (and yes, I think he’s gonna make the team)
Fedetenko-Boyle-Rupp
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Why bother flipping Dubi/Cally’s positions?
Plus, if Anisimov and Stepan are on a line, Step’s going to be the one on the wing.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Boyle to wing on Stepans line.
How else does Boyle get top nine minutes? Anybody else floating around the organization or available via trade/UFA that’s big, decent skater, good shot and scored 20 goals last year?
Unless you package Boyle to upgrade LW.. He is moving to the wing.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jul 3, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or a dubi, girardi, kreider package for parise’s rights?? that first line would be pretty amazing
by BronxBeliever on Jul 3, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t think you can trade for the rights of player who is going into arbitration
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Better to watch Parise win big in arbitration and force a trade at the deadline or leave NJ next year as UFA.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jul 3, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
watch him leave as a UFA but we wont be able to afford him without shipping out some big contracts
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Not sure how that happens, we have $8m+ freeing up this time next year… that was going to be my next post, below! As good as we can be this coming year, the one after may very well be our first “contender” year. We have Wolski, Avery, Christensen, and the next step down of Drury coming off the books totaling $8.66m, without many people needing significant raises (assume we sign Feds, MZA, MDZ, and Prust for same/moderate raises, or even some gone).
THAT excites me.
Can people stop breaking up the pack line?
This is absurd. Our ‘2nd line’ hands down is Dubi – Anis – Cally. No question in my mind. This unit cycles the puck, plays great in our own zone, scores goals, and forces teams to figure out who to send out their top defensive pairing against. You also say center acquired by trade, but any trade at this point would likely include Boyle. Also, I don’t want to break up Boyle and Prust. It will be interesting to see how Torts slots everything, but knowing Torts, no line combinations are permanent. And I also agree that Thomas makes the team, but I’d like to see him on a line with MZA and Stepan; I’d think their skill sets would collectively mesh. If I was slotting our lines, I’d roll them out like this:
Wolski/ Richards/ Gabby
Dubi/ Anis/ Cally
MZA/ Stepan/ Thomas
Prust/ Hagelin/ Boyle
I think EC and Avery are out of the equation, and Rupp and Fedotenko are our extra forwards.
by callahanisgod on Jul 3, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
so sign Rupp and not play him?
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I think Rupp most likely gets that slot where I put Hagelin, but I think Hagelin could earn that spot in camp.
by callahanisgod on Jul 3, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
not that the 4th line should be much of an issue…but i think Rupp would goto wing and BB stays at C if anything.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 3, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Imo the Pack line is our co-first line. They’re all gifted players, with the potential of being so much more, but even so their synergy is greater than just the sum of their parts.
I want to keep the Feds-Boyle-Prust line intact as well. We’ll see what happens, but they were really fun to watch at times.
Absolutely.
Boyle is defensively responsible – to the point of being a significant part of the PK last year (usually 2nd unit).
Rupp has never been known as particularly defensive – and his skating can’t compare to Boyle’s.
For that reason alone, Rupp will play wing. He may take quite a few faceoffs, but he’ll rotate out to wing after the F.O.
I just want to say this
last year I wanted us to sign Gagne over Frolov, man we f’d that up
I know Gagne is made of glass but at least he scores
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
he would be great but...
We already have a winger made out of glass.
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by Stroker Ace on Jul 3, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Random question - how good are the Flyers?
What do you guys think of the new Flyers team? I can’t figure out if they’re gonna be dangerous or just a random collection of parts with no chemistry.
For the first time since the lockout I feel like we have a real shot at taking the Conference. Alot depends on Crosby and Malkin’s health.
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think they went down a bit.
but they will be more consistent with brygalov in net. probably still a playoff team IMO
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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jul 3, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
they still have a tough Defense and finally could have some solid goaltending…but their offense is gonna be chaotic and sporadic
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I don’t think they’re nearly as good. Take away Carter and Richards, and teams can really focus on Giroux and JVR. There’s less offensive depth there. Sure, Schenn is gonna be great, but he’s not gonna be tearing it up next season. He still has to develop. Voracek is a crap shoot. Simmonds is a solid 3rd liner. There D is getting older. I don’t think they’ll be nearly as good next season.
They also lost some toughness/grit by losing Powe and Carcillo.
I think the 2011-2012 Flyers...
…might be the biggest wild card of any NHL team in the past decade. Still tons of talent, but so many changes and so many risks. And as much as I hate them, the Flyers do a good job of rebuilding while still trying to win.
My answer is the Flyers are a probable definite to maybe be possibly better, or worse. One thing I can guarantee is they may or may not finish above or below the 5th seed.
Also, Jaromir Jagr will score between 17 and 36 goals, and definitely not more than 72.
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Let me know how that works out for you . . .
by SimpleManiac on Jul 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
2012 Wishlist
With $8m of free space possible at this time next year, what upcoming possible UFA is on your wishlist to complete our first line?
not a lot
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by Joe1969 on Jul 3, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really? I could see all three—LA clearly traded for Penner for short term and haven’t liked him, Caps will need to re-up Green and give a massive, massive raise to Carlson, and Sharp is pretty inconsistent for Chicago and (from what I gather off of SCH) the cause of a lot of their line juggling. They probably want a legit 2C instead of Sharp.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d expect they’ll be traded at the deadline to teams that want them, and extended before July 1, if not re-signed by current clubs.
After watching Nieuwendyk get hosed over Richards, I’ll be willing to bet that the other GMs took notice and will get value back instead of absolutely nothing. McPhee has made some smart moves and I don’t see him getting stuck with Semin if he has no interest….
I'd rather not create an all star front line
would much rather fortify the lower ranks or maybe get an elite defenseman.
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Brad Boyes
To play up there with Gabby and Richards. BUT, having seen Kreider three times in person this year, I think he’ll be NHL ready (and top-line ready) come 2012.
by callahanisgod on Jul 3, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
as much as i hate the bastard….Semin would def be up there…despite him being a total tool..
however, the one guy i really like would be Patrick Sharp…and he’s much cheaper than a Semin.
Sharp making 3.9 till next year….maybe could sign him for 5mil or less that would be solid. only saying that cuz i’d def expect him to get at least a bit of a raise with his point totals goind up significantly over the past few seasons.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 3, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope we don't overpay in a trade for a top LW just to make a "big3" line up front
I’d like to give WW a chance with BR & Gaborik.
I think Rupp-Boyle-Prust would be a fantastic 4th line that will give people fits with both fists and goals. That line can def be sent out every 4th shift to tear shit up as well as keep everyone else fresh for special teams.
Also very excited to see how Stepan steps up his game with Richards’ tutlage
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+1
You make a great point about Richards teaching younger players. And not only Stepan, I think Anis is at a stage in his career where he will benefit from a presence like Richards.
by callahanisgod on Jul 3, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally
If he can help AA & Stepan with the intangibles as well as the fitness/workout stuff the sky is the limit for both. Who knows, one or both could even be better than Richards himself in a few years.
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I see Stepan as a player more like Richards than Anis. Stepan is a more willing passer and set-up guy… Anis is a Russian.
by callahanisgod on Jul 3, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not like there are no playmaking russians. Malkin and Datsyuk are two of the best in the league at setting people up
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The two exceptions… but for the most part, the mentality is scorer, just like Anis.
by callahanisgod on Jul 3, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
There are only like 5-6 high scoring russians in the league anyway, so 2/7 is not a small number.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
does this washout the Ledba deal?
Proteautype Adam Proteau
Predators sign Niclas Bergfors.
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Yo.
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best post of the day…well thought out sir.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 3, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
THATS REC MATERIAL RIGHT THERE.
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I don't know
I disagree completely with his general opinion. The thesis wasn’t well thought out, and, well, let’s face it, the overall standard of commenting has been lowered by that single statement. Disappointing from a top notch commenter like Moshe.
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WW has skill, maybe playing with a guy like Richards will turn him into a fairly consistent hockey player.
I wonder if the Richards signing will motivate Avery to bust his ass to make the team this season, they’re supposedly good friends, right? When Avery has his head in the game he’s a good player.
yes...
this is what i said above….im sure he’s never had a chance to play with a center of this caliber before….
sure he had stastny in colorado…but im sure they never played together…
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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 3, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Avery needs to calm down. Seemed so desperate to “prove” something on every shift. If he had the puck he’d pull up along the boards 15 feet into the zone instead of shooting. If he didn’t have the puck he was offside.
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
by SimpleManiac on Jul 4, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The Caps win the offseason with their latest move, I think.
Varlamov was on his way to Russia, and Vokoun was about to sign a big contract with the Avs. The Caps traded Varlamov to the Avs for a 1st round pick (potentially lottery) and a 2nd round pick as well, essentially taking out the competition.
After that, the Caps need a goalie, and who better than Vokoun. With no competition to bid against, they were able to sign an elite goalie for dirt cheap.
The teams going to be a powerhouse next year.
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They certainly are. However, we’ll do better than 8 seed and won’t have to face them, leaving it to some other team to knock them off early, sending their fans into their annual spring depression.
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We say that every year with the Caps. They are unpredictable, we might as well just wait and see
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 3, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Caps signing was GREAT!
But, I’m still torn as to whether or not it is going to make them that much better this season. They didn’t exactly have goalie issues in D.C., whether is was Varly, Holtby, or Neuvirth in net, they all played pretty well. I still think their D is suspect, even with the Hamrlik signing.
If the Pens stay healthy this year, they ARE strong with Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Kovalev, Staal, etc.
True true.
I’m happy because we’re a better team, and thats for sure.
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vokoun can steal games the other 2 may not be able too and sometimes u need that
by Anthony Tamburro on Jul 3, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Varlamov, Neuvirth, and Holtby all absolutely stole games last year. Varlamov got something like under 2 GF/gm of support, though, which is why his record was terrible.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Green, Carlson, Alzner, Hamrlik, Wideman, Schultz? Not that questionable. I’m worried about the focus level, the attention to detail/execution, and special teams deciding to go cold at inopportune times.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Green has had injury issues the last few years, but continues to improve his “defense” every year it seems. Schultz was absolutely horrendous last year. Alzner is solid. I think he’s a smarter player than Carlson. I kinda forgot about Wideman since he got hurt towards the end of the season.
Regardless, imo, their defense is their weakest part on paper…..still solid all around tho.
Too bad Arnott is a FA, he was a beast when he went to D.C. last year. I thought they would give him a 1 year deal of some sort, maybe still can, but probably highly unlikely, especially with bringing in Halpern.
I thought Neal and Kovalev...
…were pretty terrible with the Pens at the end of last season. Here’s hoping that continues, since Crosby and Malkin will be back.
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Bryz cost = $49M. Vokoun cost = $1.5M. Watching the Flyers make one of the dumbass moves of the offseason = priceless. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I would take Vokoun over Bryz IN A SECOND. And to pay $47M less? What a steal for the Caps. They are the team to beat in the east right now.
That’s probably going through the minds of Flyers orginazation right now… We got rid of Carter, Richards &,Versteeg for Jagr, Bryzgalov, & Talbot, all the while we could have had Violin for less money than a I don’t know a Chris Higgins and only for one year… Let’s hope we win the cup because if not were gone next year. This offseason proves that overreacting over one season can do to a franchise. Conrats Washington, LA, and Columbus for taking advantage of a dumb orginazation.
by louielounz1 on Jul 4, 2011 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Way too early predictions that will change often
East
1. Caps
2. Pens
3. Lightning
4. Bruins
5. Rangers
6. Sabres
7. Canadiens
8. Flyers
9. Panthers
10. Devils
11. Islanders
12. Maple Leafs
13. Hurricanes
14. Jets
15. Senators
West
1. Canucks
2. Red Wings
3. Kings
4. Sharks
5. Blackhawks
6. Ducks
7. Stars
8. Blue Jackets
9. Wild
10. Blues
11. Predators
12. Coyotes
13. Oilers
14. Flames
15. Avalanche
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nah, I’m ok with it in general but Preds too low. One of the best young teams in the league with Rinne as one of the best goalies right now and Weber as a top 5 player in the league.
I’m thinking the players they messed up on become FA and they can’t retain them all. That could really hurt them. If not, move them up.
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Panthers are way too high
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I swapped them and the Canes last second. Probably not my best idea. It’s tough to tell considering they are a whole new team.
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Looks like the east will be a heck of a lot better than the west once you get towards the 5th to 15th best teams. East could be very unpredictable this year.
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Think you’re underestimating Devils and Flyers by quite a bit. I also think you’re overestimating Detroit and Anaheim and Dallas, vastly underrating St. Louis, Nashville, Phoenix, Calgary (especially), Colorado.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not gonna lie, I spent a good five minutes trying to figure out where to put the Devils. I think Phoenix is going to be worse, and I already explained Nash. Who would you swap?
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by Joe1969 on Jul 3, 2011 10:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t. As it is, they’ll get their best player back (the 2nd best wing in the game, I’d say), and I doubt they’ll shoot 5% for half the season again. They’ll be able to get league average goaltending or better from Brodeur or whoever will be there.
Regarding Nashville: who did they lose, exactly? Ward—they have a plethora of two-way forwards, losing him shouldn’t hurt them as much as it might another team. Lombardi—was hurt a lot. Franson—Ellis may already be better. I think they’ll be just as good this season as they were last (add a few goals against with Rinne’s regression, doubt he’s really this good, but add a few goals for with a better PP).
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know if you heard, but Franson is a Leaf.
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I know. Ellis should replace Franson.
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by red army line on Jul 4, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If everyone stays healthy in NJ (and they get Parise signed) Devils will be pretty good. Wonder whats going to happen when Fatso retires.
The teams caterers will cry.
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Caps and Lightning are in the same division.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Jul 3, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
they have enough cap space for it
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Very much so. No indications to the contrary out there.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
As per Bob McKenzie
San Jose trades Heatley to Minnesota for Havlat.
Facepalm San Jose! WOW
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On vacation, but this is big: MIN trades Havlat to SJ for Heatley
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That's a big deal
Heatley joins his fourth team in less than 10 seasons. Guy seems to be on the move every two or three years
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by The Last Shall Become First on Jul 3, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this true??
can’t find it anywhere besides Mckenzies tweet
nevermind
confirmed on sharks page! interesting move.
Gord Miller’s twitter has it also
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be in the minority, initial reaction this is a slight win for SJS
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks to me like Heater’s only advantage is durability.
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by red army line on Jul 3, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. And Havlat w/ Thornton/Boyle/Marleau should improve his PP numbers.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 3, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Also Heatley is apparently terrible in the locker room, Im sure that had something to do with it.
by CrazyRangerFan on Jul 4, 2011 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions
My, has Heatley's value dropped.
Although San Jose stole him from Ottawa in the first place.
Heatley is a two-time 50 goal-scorer and had one down year. He must really be annoying. Maybe he smacks his lips when he eats or something.
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Sharks are gonna save 2.5 mil this year by trading Heatley….maybe they’ll put an offer sheet out for Stamkos. Probably have to do shed one more contract tho, Ryan Clowe, anyone?
After all the predictions I wanna do one lol
Pens
Caps
Sabres
Rangers
Bruins
Lightning
Habs
Flyers
Devils
Leafs
Isles
Canes
Panthers
Jets
Sens
Blackhawks
Kings
Canucks
Wings
Ducks
Sharks
Predators
Blue Jackets
Blues
Flames
Stars
Wild
Oilers
Coyotes
Avalanche
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Was Glen looking at Dany??
Once BR was acquired, there were blurbs on twitter to suggest we were going to trade for a LW to play with BR/Gabby..anyone think heatley was a target?
by inHANKweTruST on Jul 4, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
No cap room for it. Would never have worked out.
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i dont get this trade.. Heatly produces a ton of offense.
He has some of the sickest finishing skills I’ve ever seen. Just looked up his stats and he’s a point per game player that averages close to 40 goals a season. He’s coming of a 26 goal campaign but I don’t think he’s in decline.
Is the “locker room” issue related to his accident in Atlanta or something else?
Good trade for MIN. SJS must have something else cooking.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jul 4, 2011 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think Heatley’s attitude and Torts’ attitude would really mesh more as clash and explode in violent mess of hockey equipment and gore
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Probably
Would have seen Torts come out of practice one day with Heatley’s head saying “yeah, we need a new left winger.”
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basically how I envisioned it
"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx
In Prust We Trust
"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.
A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep
Follow me @8kpower
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