Heatley Dealt to Minnesota for Havlat
by Bryan Winters on Jul 3, 2011 10:58 PM EDT
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Just as we thought the Toronto/Nashville trade was as good as it gets, the Minnesota Wild and San Jose Sharks completed a blockbuster trade. The deal sends forward Dany Heatley to Minnesota in exchange for Martin Havlat. Havlat waived his no-trade clause in order to be dealt to San Jose. Healtey on the other hand, had a modified no-trade clause. He had to submit a list of ten teams he didn't want to go to before July 1st, obviously Minnesota was not on that list.
This was a pure salary dump trade for the Sharks as they now save $2.5 million in cap space. Both players have similar points on paper, the upside is that Havlat comes $2.5 million cheaper, for the same point production. Havlat, a versatile who scored totaled 62 points last season, will join a very talented young San Jose squad. This marks the second deal between Minnesota and San Jose. Their first being another blockbuster trade sending Devin Setoguchi to the Wild for defencemen Brent Burns.
Here is the official trade statement from the San Jose Sharks:
San Jose Sharks Executive Vice President and General Manager Doug Wilson announced today that the club has acquired forward Martin Havlat from the Minnesota Wild in exchange for forward Dany Heatley.
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That’s more than a little shocking – given what they went through to get Heatley in the first place. Something tells me SJ is up to something else.
I would have to agree, with them signing Handzus and the emergence of Couture do they move Pavelski?
Ehh, they put up very similar numbers last year and Havlat makes less money.
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Yea but over their careers Heatley is a much more reliable goal scorer and Havlat is considerably more fragile.
Heatley also played with Hossa, then Spezza/Alfredsson, then Thornton/Marleau/Pavelski.
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by Caerid112 on Jul 4, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Heater was traded for Hossa, but I do think he played briefly with Savard.
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by red army line on Jul 4, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Damnit, yeah, got them mixed up. Been out of the loop.
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In Havlat’s best year he played with Kane and Toews so I am not really impressed. Heatley is the better player, he’s scored 50 goals twice.
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by red army line on Jul 6, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t necessarily have to play on the same line to benefit from them. I think all three of them were split up for most of that season, which would point to Havlat’s playing against relatively weak lines.
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 6, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Bolland plays top lines, and that year if memory serves Toews was playing anybody remotely good that Bolland didn’t get matched to. Havlat must have had to do a good bit of backchecking.
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by red army line on Jul 6, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
People just assume that because a player played with elite guys that his stats need to be taken with a huge grain of salt, what would Heatley had to do beyond going 50 50 in those years with Spezza and Alfie? 75, 75? I don’t care who you’re playing with scoring 50 goals and 100 points is incredibly hard.
The 05-07 seasons need to be taken with a grain of salt since PPs went through the roof (league leaders had 50+ power play points, nowadays that high water mark is more like 35). Heatley’s 2 50 goal seasons, surprise surprise, were those two seasons, when Havlat wasn’t healthy at all.
It’s not like Heatley didn’t do anything, just that Havlat is a pretty good player who flies under the radar and Heatley was the complement on the top line of a perennial contender who got lots of MSM love.
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by red army line on Jul 6, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I would rather have Heatley, than Havlat
Heatley is capable of putting 40+ goals, 90-100 points. Havlat is too inconsistent. San Jose better be up to something because they have ridden themselves of Setoguchi and Heatley, and are rivaling the Flyers for the worst offseason, in my opinion.
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It could be that Heatley was a bad locker room presence.
anyway, If i’m Havlat, I’m happy as fkuck: going to a team that wins in a beautiful city with great weather, in the second best state.
If I’m Heatley,
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 4, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Havlat is cheaper and puts up the same numbers in less ice time. He’s also better defensively.
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by red army line on Jul 4, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
so minn and sj made 2 trades in the last week:
To Minn:
Heatley
Setoguchi
Coyle (2010 1st rd pick)
1st rd pick
To SJ:
Havlat
Burns
I think Minnesota got the better of these deals. And they bought in Havlat to replace Gaborik and then they trade him for Heatley. So bacially they replaced Gaborik with Heatley
Imagine a line of Heatley-Richards-Gaborik?? Would be sick. That line would have everything. I think we also could’ve given a little more value back in return. Especially if this was a cap-dump but San Jose.
But I don’t think there was anything Sather could’ve done. It sounded like this came about quick (Meaning I don’t think they were dangling Heatley out there.).. Also by reading the comments from the teams, it sounded like it was San Jose who was targeting Havlat and not the other way around.
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heatly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>havlat
say what you want about their “even” production last year but heatly has been a consistently dominant force in this leauge for years, and was injuered and had an off year last year.
havlat had a career year last year (or one of his best im just guessing obviously). theres a reason he was only paid 5 mil. hes a great player but this is nothing but a salary dump, and a stupid one, by sanjuan. i dont get it really.
but what do i know
Your opening statement is not true. He might be marginally better thanks to better PP skill, but Havlat’s a very good player, quite possibly the better even strength player right now, and is only 2/3 of the cost.
Other than durability, Havlat is right there with Heatley.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 4, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention havlat is better in the locker room and heatley likes to disappear come playoff time
by nyrangerfan521 on Jul 4, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
also…Havlat didn’t kill a guy
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by Kevin Power on Jul 4, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dude that’s pretty mean spirited. I realize you’re joking but still
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by Scratch and Snif on Jul 4, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Technically, it wasn’t the ride that did it, it was the sudden stop at the end.
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this is getting rough..
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am i the only one who thought
….was there any way to flip gaborik to san jose for heatley?
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I actually think a Gaborik for Heatley deal would have made more sense from San Jose’s perspective.
I actually don’t really understand the upside for San Jose with that trade. I know Heatley had a horrible playoff series, but he’s still, in my opinion, as good as a playmaker as Havlat. And a better finisher. Havlat’s shooting % has dipped considerably since leaving Chicago.
I was on the Fins board, and one of their guys proposed this lineup, which isn’t bad, considering
Marleau- Thornton- Pavelski
Clowe- Couture- Havlat
The Sharks coach said after the Setoguchi trade that Pavelski would be moving back to the top six, so that lineup makes the most sense, though it hurts their center depth a bit. I guess they’re banking on Handzus to handle the third line duties.
Heatley is apparently a real dick… but I thought that too. Less injury issues and certainly would benefit from Brad Richards getting him the puck. But the reason the trade went down in the first place is because Heatley underperformed in San Jose and the Sharks saved 2 mill in cap space by moving him for Havlat. The Sharks were looking to dump salary… something they couldn’t have done if they swapped Heatley for Gaborik (Gaborik has more years left on his deal too).
I think I’d rather have Gaborik because of the locker room cancer that Heatley apparently is.
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