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Rangers News: Dubinsky, Callahan, Boyle and Sauer to File for Arbitration


According to Andrew Gross via Twitter, restricted free agents Brandon Dubinsky, Ryan Callahan, Michael Sauer and Brian Boyle will all be filing for salary arbitration today. Remember, this is not a negative thing, just "part of the process" as Dubi's agent put it. Do not be alarmed, I have full confidence that the team will get all four players signed.

Also, the arbitration filings take away the possibility of an outside team presenting an offer sheet to any of the four players. And again, this is nothing to worry about - there is a good chance most of the players will sign before their actual hearing.

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What about Atrtem Anisimov???

by Carmine A on Jul 5, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

What about AA? He’s the one I’m the most worried about..

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Jul 5, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

NYDNRangers Jesse Spector
Check that. Anisimov was not eligible to file for arbitration. No change to the actual info that he didn’t file, but still…

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by Kevin Power on Jul 5, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm..

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Jul 5, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

as confirmed by spector

he’s coming off an entry level contract and doesn’t have enough time in to file for arbitration

In tweet form:

NYDNRangers Jesse Spector
Yes, coming off entry-level contract. RT @8kpower: why is AA ineligible to file for arbitration? Not enough time in?

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Jul 5, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

when is the actual hearing? This way we kind of know what the deadline day really is

by KBrian on Jul 5, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

last i heard its July 20th

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Jul 5, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deals

What kind of money will these guys be asking for……….. Cally and Dubi being the biggest contracts of course……hope they sign them both long term

by Carmine A on Jul 5, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Agreed. Would love to see them long term

by XxC17xX on Jul 5, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Potential Problem

With all the money some of these mediocre players are getting I am worried this could backfire. Especially Sauer.

by NYRNYG on Jul 5, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sauer is the absolute least of our concerns. As far as I’m concerned there is effectively, again only IMO, no chance Sauer doesn’t continue to improve. And considering the type of player he is he won’t command that much money.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 5, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think boyle could backfire big time. he gave up a lot of goals off faceoffs at the end of last year by not sticking with his man immediately after losing the faceoff. Also his goals per game chart last year dipped as fast as enron did.

by NJblueshirt on Jul 6, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m definitely not worried about Sauer though. Mostly Boyle, to be honest.

Especially now that we added Rupp for 1.5 as well.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Jul 6, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

AA’s coming off an entry level contract. Sauer is not.

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by George E. Ays on Jul 5, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is determined by years pro, not years in the NHL

by The Blue Seats on Jul 5, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greatest arbitration story ever.. lets hope it never comes to this.

Harsh Words at Salo Arbitration

  • Jim Smith
  • Newsday, Friday, August 15, 1997
    Newsday (8/15/97)

Harsh Words at Salo Arbitration
By Jim Smith. STAFF WRITER

Harsh words often are exchanged in salary arbitration cases, but an NHL source said Tommy Salo’s hearing Monday in Toronto moved the Islanders’ goalie to tears.

The source described general manager Mike Milbury’s brief on Salo as “the most horrific character assassination ever seen in an arbitration for an NHL player . . . Tommy broke
down in tears before Mike.”

Arbitrator Rolf Valtin yesterday set Salo’s salary for
1997-98 at $750,000 plus incentives. That was a victory for Milbury in his first arbitration case as GM, because it was exactly what Milbury offered before Salo asked for arbitration. At the hearing, however, Milbury offered a two-way $550,000 deal with a $100,000 minor-league salary. Salo requested $1.1 million. He earned $300,000 last year.

Milbury’s hard-line stance sends a message to the club’s other restricted free agents: Travis Green, Bryan Smolinski, Scott Lachance and Ken Belanger.

Milbury, however, said it had nothing to do with club ownership reverting to John Pickett after John Spano’s July 23 arrest on federal fraud charges. “When we have leverage,” he said, “we must use it because when we don’t have leverage, it is used incredibly harshly against us.”

In June, Milbury said of Salo, “He was a good player for us down the stretch. He was pretty solid. I’d say of all the players out there, he made the biggest leap forward.”

But in his brief on Monday, Milbury:

-Described Salo, who was 20-27-9 with a 2.82 goals-against average, as “one of the worst-conditioned athletes on the Islanders” and said his conditioning led to goals in the final six minutes of 18 games.

-Predicted Salo would not play as many games this season as last (58).

-Said Salo’s “mental approach also is suspect,” leading to him allowing many early and soft goals.

-Argued first-round 1997 draft pick Roberto Luongo or “steady, promising” Eric Fichaud could emerge as the starter this year, so “there is a substantial risk Salo ultimately will be returned to Utah [of the IHL].”

-Asserted Salo’s “inconsistent, troubling performance” last season was the reason Milbury signed journeyman Wade Flaherty as insurance.

Salo refused comment on Milbury’s presentation. His agent, Rich Winter, said, “We’re very disappointed, but we’re glad it’s over. We’re going to try to work together to repair the damage done.”

Milbury said, “My brief was strong, but my verbal
testimony was not. In the end, I think the arbitrator came up with a fair number . . . Obviously, you’re not going to stand there and say everything that’s great about Tommy -
because that’s what they’re doing. We presented the flip side. But it’s important Tommy hears loud and clear how important we feel he is. He’s a good, young goaltender. I hope he establishes himself as a No.1.”

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Jul 5, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

All the more reason to hate that bastard (I’m talking about Salo btw)

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 5, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it does go to arbatrtion isnt that only a 1 yr contract then all of them become ufa

by obi1canblome on Jul 5, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

No, that only happens if they can’t reach a deal. The arbitrator sets a salary and the team can either take a one year deal at that price or walk away (like Buffalo did with Tim Kennedy)

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 5, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The side being taken to arbitration (in all of these cases, the Club) decides on either a one or two year term before the hearing.

In the case of Parise, who was taken to arbitration by the Devils, he can choose either a one or two year term.

The Rangers might select a 2 year term for everyone except Dubinsky. If they go for one year on him, he’s still an RFA at the end of the 1 year contract.
Realistically, I don’t expect any of these to actually get in front of an arbitrator.

by dbmaven on Jul 5, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification, yea lets hope it doesn’t get there especially when you can get Ladd as a comparable.

by Zuppa Di Pesce on Jul 5, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milbury is totally insane. Go YouTube him climbing into the stands at MSG and beating some guy with his own shoe. I can’t believe anyone let that guy run a franchise I wouldn’t let him feed my plants. I don’t own any plants

by DieselCane22 on Jul 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe a french canadian Ranger fan?

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by RangerFanInChicago on Jul 5, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

With a Chinese screen name? That would be odd

by DieselCane22 on Jul 5, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its gone

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

Follow me @8kpower

by Kevin Power on Jul 5, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn I was having fun with this.

by DieselCane22 on Jul 5, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

what did i miss…sounds like a good time?

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by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 7, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s a French Canadian Chinese Ranger fan.

by DieselCane22 on Jul 5, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I feel like Boyle’s negotiations might be trouble. The Rangers want to lock him up as a cost-efficient 3rd/4th liner, but Boyle’s agent is no doubt telling him he needs to capitalize on his career year.

by XLII on Jul 6, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Not a big deal at all

Everyone who’s worried or pissed off that these guys have gone to arb. needs to take a collective deep breath and remain calm.

If you think about it, why wouldn’t these guys try and max out their demands. I mean we as fans have been saying all year that Cally, Dubi, Sauer, and to a lesser extent Boyle, are key cogs in our “core” NYR machine. Plus, think about how these guys play on the ice and why we respect them so much. They play in-your-face, aggressive, with-reckless-abandon hockey, so why should we expect them to pull a Mr. Hyde/Dr. Jeckyll routine at the neg. table? I mean, have any of you BB followers ever asked your employer for more money? And, seriously, how many of you may have even done this when, deep down, you may or may not have truly earned all of what was asked for vs. these guys?

I say go for it. It’s a legitimate part of the process (as opposed to when Dubi held out which is different story entirely mind you.) Kudos and more power play to these guys, esp. a rookie like Sauer, for showing their moxie on the carpeted playing surface. :)

And what’s the worst that happens? The arbiter rules in favor on NYR and they get what was originally tendered or, these primarily home-grown players we have all been debating should wear the “C” or are part of our “core” get rewarded with that precious cap space for their past performance, current and future potential.

The way I see it, no downside either way. :)

by mgweissman on Jul 6, 2011 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

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